Notorious speed tracks

[turfbar]

I know Keeneland WAS a speed favoring track who knows now with the advent of a poly surface but was wondering what are across the land tracks that favor speed in your opinion

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[kenwoodallpromos]

I contend mostly Magna tracks!

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At the time Quirin came up with his speed point concept, the following tracks showed the highest impact value (among those that are still active today) for horses that were running third or better at the first call. (Quirin considered any value above 2.00 to be above average with respect to favoring early speed, and any value from 1.60 to 2.00 to be in the average range.):

Fonner 2.42
Beulah 2.31
Turfway 2.23
Fairmount 2.13
Woodbine 2.04
Keeneland 2.01
Saratoga 1.99
Fairplex 1.98
Thistledown (Inner) 1.96
Monmouth 1.94
Atlantic City 1.90

[andicap]

I can't give you a list or say which ones are the most biased but here's a few that favor speed at certain distances. Most tracks get about 30-35% w2w wins at 6f, a higher number at the shorter distances, lower at 7f and routes (But not as low as you might think. Speed really is the universal bias, but I still think closers pay better).

Here are some tracks that get 40% at 6f and stronger than normal at other distances. (i.e. in the mid 30's for routes)
for dry dirt only.

Meadowlands (sprints and 8f)
Ellis (6f)
LRL -- 5.5f and somewhat at 6f
MNR -- Stronger speed bias at 8f-8.5f. (but not at 9f)
KEE -- still very strong across the board but weakest at 6f.
SA- 9f, very strong
LAD-- 8.3f and 8.5f
LS -- 8f and 8.5f
PIM -- moderate at 6, more so at 8.5 and very strong at 9f

[Valuist]

Hoosier, when the track is dry. Not so much when its sloppy or muddy.

[andicap]

Hoosier, when the track is dry. Not so much when its sloppy or muddy.

Not according to the facts. In the past month, at 6f, fast track, horses have won wire to wire 28% of time, not a big number compared to most tracks. As I said 30-35% appears to be average at that distance.

In the past year its 25% out of 225 races and in fact wet tracks do better -- 32% although to be fair many of those could have been "good" or "wet fast" tracks.
There are very few tracks where horses wire the field 25% of the time or less at 6f.

Del Mar is one, at 19%.

Sar had only 18% wire winners at 6f in marked contrast to past year. (But amazingly 44% w2W jobs at 7f.) But when its wet SAR returns to its speed roots at 6f.

Turfway has been at 21% in the last month.
Woodbine has been at 25% since Aug. 30 (when did the Poly open?) and is 10% in its past 10 races.

[46zilzal]

inner Aqueduct is the KING of early and the main track would be close.

WIRE TO WIRE does not mean it is/isn't a speed favoring track!

[Valuist]

Hoosier has bigger fields than most other tracks so their percentage of w-w wins will be lower. And like the other post mentions, sitting 2nd or 3rd a half length off the lead isn't a w/w win but its a speed horse winning the race.

A quick way to see if a track is speed favoring is take the average number of lengths behind the winner is after a quarter mile in sprint races. If the number is less than 2.0, its speed favoring. If its over 3.0, its tiring. Between 2-3 is neutral and most tracks tend to fall into this range a good percentage of the time.

[kenwoodallpromos]

I contend mostly Magna tracks!

MEC Tracks
Golden Gate Fields
Great Lakes Downs
Gulfstream Park
Laurel Park
Lone Star Park
Magna Racino
Pimlico
Portland Meadows
Remington Park
Santa Anita Park
The Meadows
Thistledown

[BIG49010]

Indy, Daytona, Mich. International:) :lol:

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Indy, Daytona, Mich. International:) :lol:


So THAT explains the rationale behind what they did with Sportsman's Park!