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Tom
09-27-2006, 06:20 PM
The Catholic church is demanding amnesty for all illegals.
Does this violate speration fo church and state?
Should the Catholic church forfeit it's tax exempt status to pay the tab for this?

Bala
09-27-2006, 07:07 PM
Tom - why stop there?

Black churches have always talked politics from the pulpit.


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Ponyplayr
09-27-2006, 07:16 PM
The Catholic church is demanding amnesty for all illegals.
Does this violate speration fo church and state?
Should the Catholic church forfeit it's tax exempt status to pay the tab for this?
Hell No!..What you do for the lesser you do for me.

http://www.valpo.edu/ils/satterlee_sermon.pdf#search=%22What%20you%20do%20f or%20the%20lesser%20you%20do%20for%20me%20jesus%22

ljb
09-27-2006, 08:46 PM
ALL churches should forfiet their tax exempt status. They are all political.

rrpic6
09-27-2006, 08:57 PM
I've notified the IRS about a local minister who has openly campaigned and backed various candidates from the pulpit. From bush to the new mayor of y-town. In close races, his backing could have made a difference. The mayor's opponent had been a past adversary to the minister over clashes of bringing casinos to the area. The IRS Agent that I spoke to seemed to be clueless that this is not legal, so I'm sure nothing was done.

ljb
09-27-2006, 09:04 PM
I was attending services at an evangelical church prior to the last election. The Pastor said during his sermon. "that democratic candidate is not a christian." Did not name any spefic candidate just insinuating all Democrats are not christians. Does this qualify as politics from the pulpit ?

bigmack
09-27-2006, 09:13 PM
The Catholic church is demanding amnesty for all illegals.
Does this violate speration fo church and state?
Should the Catholic church forfeit it's tax exempt status to pay the tab for this?
I don’t know about upstate NY, but in So Cal it’s a large portion of their congregation - congregations give to the offering plate - offering plates keep the Church alive. Push come to shove: It's a symbiotic faith based operation.

Tom - why stop there?
Black churches have always talked politics from the pulpit
Come on Bala – That’s over the top.

Tom
09-27-2006, 10:31 PM
No, I agree with Bala. 100%
And what you do for the lesser, pay for yourself.
The Catholic church is advocating crimes - they should be forced to pay thier fair share.
I have already been urging people to drop pre-printed letters in the collection plates locally - printed at my expense

"Your stand on illeal imigration is costing this country billions of dollars. My taxes make it impossible for me to finance your political busllshit any more. Please be advised you may stick this plate where it ain't been blessed."

Ponyplayr
09-27-2006, 11:01 PM
No, I agree with Bala. 100%
And what you do for the lesser, pay for yourself.
The Catholic church is advocating crimes - they should be forced to pay thier fair share.
I have already been urging people to drop pre-printed letters in the collection plates locally - printed at my expense

"Your stand on illeal imigration is costing this country billions of dollars. My taxes make it impossible for me to finance your political busllshit any more. Please be advised you may stick this plate where it ain't been blessed."
What the Catholic Church advocated in Poland during the Russian occupation was considered a crime. They closed the Churches..Imprisoned the Priests and the church survived. Today Poland and the the rest of eastern Europe is free..Thanks to the Catholic Church and Ronald Reagan.

God Bless them both.

lsbets
09-27-2006, 11:06 PM
ALL churches should forfiet their tax exempt status. They are all political.

We are in total agreement based on this statement. Excuse me while I walk outside to see if its a full moon tonight. :lol: :lol: :lol:

DJofSD
09-28-2006, 12:05 AM
Excuse me while I walk outside to see if its a full moon tonight.

Nope, just a few days past new.

Check your biorythms maybe you had a critical day.

betchatoo
09-28-2006, 04:17 AM
We are in total agreement based on this statement. Excuse me while I walk outside to see if its a full moon tonight. :lol: :lol: :lol:
That makes at least 3 of us.

ljb
09-28-2006, 05:48 AM
We are in total agreement based on this statement. Excuse me while I walk outside to see if its a full moon tonight. :lol: :lol: :lol:
And i am sure Ken Lay and al zawquari appreciate hell freezing over. :lol:

lsbets
09-28-2006, 07:14 AM
And i am sure Ken Lay and al zawquari appreciate hell freezing over. :lol:

Depends if they have longjohns with them. :lol:

Secretariat
09-28-2006, 10:09 AM
I answered Yes (unless I was Diebolded) because I think no church should have tax exempt status. Just want to clarify it is not because of this issue per se.

PaceAdvantage
09-29-2006, 01:12 AM
I answered Yes (unless I was Diebolded) because I think no church should have tax exempt status. Just want to clarify it is not because of this issue per se.

This was an anonymous poll.....

wes
09-29-2006, 04:33 AM
Hell-----Explained by Chemistry Student:::::

You have to love this guys explanation of hell:::::
The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington chemistry mid-term.
The answer by one student was so "profound" that the professor shared it with colleagues, via the internet which is why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it.

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic, (gives off heat), or endothermic (absorbs) heat?
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gaas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving. As for how many are entering Hell, lets look at the difference religions that exists in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they are,we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1: If Hell is expanding at a slower rate at which souls enter Hell then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year that "It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you" and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night,then number two must be true and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen over. The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore extinct,.....leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting "Oh My God".
The student received an A.

received this in an email from Cuz. I did not edit it.
wes

JustRalph
09-29-2006, 05:31 AM
This thread must be haunted.........

I agree that churches should lose tax exempt status......... I have joined an unholy cabal

Tom
09-29-2006, 07:20 PM
This was an anonymous poll.....

Not by any conscious decision - I just didn't know any other way to start one.:confused:

PlanB
09-29-2006, 07:27 PM
I've always hated that tax exempt status, mostly now when they've become
so political, but BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR. In this world, NOW, with
all its flip flops, is this the time to attack a generally friendly religion? I'm not
sure. Let's wait for calmer times.

DJofSD
09-29-2006, 10:23 PM
If all recognized churches were to lose their tax exempt status, I think then the ACLU should be banned from collecting any monies resulting from any court activity and they should also be denied collecting tax payers monies in the form of extortions like what happened in San Diego when the city basically paid them off to go away. This happened with the court case involving the sweatheart deal the city was giving the BSA to use Balboa Park facilities.

twindouble
09-29-2006, 10:47 PM
Where have you all been, the church regardless of what faith as institutions has been political from day one and continues to be. They are not only exempt from taxes, the are exempt from our laws, ESP the hierarchy.


T.D.

Tom
09-30-2006, 01:07 AM
Bottom line is the Catholic church is not a good neigbor - they do no trespect our laws and cause untiold harm to this country.
They are inviting peopl eto break our laws, damage our economy and put homeland security at risk. This is thier follow up to the unbelievable hoards of child preditors that they churn out - what the hell are they teaching at divintiy school. And they have the balls to pretend to be God's representatives? There is a strong paralell here to the way muslems dishoner God, just a diffent way. But it is pretty hard to have any respect for the Catholics anymore, and I am one.
The pope better get his act together and quit worrying about having dep respect for islam and start showing some for the victims of the church's obnoxious and unacceptable practices of perverted behaviour.
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