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sq764
09-21-2006, 03:50 PM
This guy's days are numbered.. He's itching to get smoked..

lsbets
09-21-2006, 04:20 PM
This guy's days are numbered.. He's itching to get smoked..

I find him amusing, and don't consider him a real threat. Even if he cut off our oil from there it wouldn't matter because another nation would step in - there is only so much supply and demand - and without oil sales those guys don't have money - without money he can't buy support from the poor. Now, if he did something to drive prices up around 100 a barrel he might have an accident, but as it is he's just the next version of Castro - who was pretty insignifigant after the Cuban Missile Crisis, and especially after the fall of the Soviet Union.

JustRalph
09-21-2006, 05:40 PM
Anybody see Danny Glover introducing Chavez? Then hugging him like he was his best friend. The next time Glover or his ilk deny they are communist or socialist.............think about Danny Glover embracing this communist thug.

TurfRuler
09-21-2006, 05:54 PM
How about a loaded cigar. How about thowing him to the fishes. How about Hanging him on the highest tree. How about cutting his head off and displaying it to his people. How about using an umbrella with a poison dart. How about using James Bond. How about using the CIA. How about using an old lady who lives in a show.

BenDiesel26
09-21-2006, 05:57 PM
I think its funny how cocky these dictators are when speaking here. They do not understand how significant freedom of the press is. They act as if they have won us over, like the shade has been pulled over our eyes like they have done to their own people. It is pretty funny the claims Chavez made though. Besides calling Bush the devil, today he also called him a cowboy and an alcoholic.

46zilzal
09-21-2006, 06:14 PM
. Besides calling Bush the devil, today he also called him a cowboy and an alcoholic.
none of those descriptions are that far off.....to him, or in the case of the latter two, the rest of the world.

Show Me the Wire
09-21-2006, 06:18 PM
none of those descriptions are that far off.....to him, or in the case of the latter two, the rest of the world.


I see, according to 46 there is no God, but the Devil exists. How irrational that the world believes in the devil.

46zilzal
09-21-2006, 06:22 PM
one of two incidences.
and the cowboy description is commonplace.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/neuharth/2004-05-13-neuharth_x.htm

JustRalph
09-21-2006, 06:44 PM
one of two incidences.
and the cowboy description is commonplace.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/neuharth/2004-05-13-neuharth_x.htm


so, a DUI makes you an alcoholic?

46zilzal
09-21-2006, 06:51 PM
so, a DUI makes you an alcoholic?
nope, but a continued history of problem drinking does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_substance_abuse_controversy

Tom
09-21-2006, 06:59 PM
so, a DUI makes you an alcoholic?

Dr. Demento here got his diploma from the University of Venezuala.

Tom
09-21-2006, 07:01 PM
And I hope the next cab that refuses to pick up Danny Glover runs over his worthelss ass. POS traitor - hope soome stalkers him out - need something to fill in the gap until the holidays - his funeral would do nicley. :jump:

rrpic6
09-21-2006, 07:06 PM
Makes me thirsty for a 6-pack of Lone Star. I see why Clinton is hanging around Bush Sr. He's waiting to party with W. in 2 years.

46zilzal
09-21-2006, 07:09 PM
And I hope the next cab that refuses to pick up Danny Glover runs over his worthelss ass. POS traitor - hope soome stalkers him out - need something to fill in the gap until the holidays - his funeral would do nicley.
Kill, send in missles, nuke em.....your answer to everything

bigmack
09-21-2006, 07:14 PM
What Hugo needs is strong PR

http://mediamatters.org/items/200508220006

BenDiesel26
09-21-2006, 07:37 PM
Kill, send in missles, nuke em.....your answer to everything

As for the Danny Glover issue, I don't know. But as for the terrorists and the regimes that support them, do unto others as they would do unto you.

BenDiesel26
09-21-2006, 07:39 PM
By the way this is especially true if what they want to do unto you is KILL you.

PlanB
09-21-2006, 07:45 PM
I think Chavez is 100% bluster, but some like to assign a Pr to keeping
his oil out of the USA & that scenario has the weasels scared. It just
makes me mad that we haven't put the politics aside & went further
with corn ethanol, sugar ethanol, advanced engine designs, etc. urghhh

bigmack
09-21-2006, 08:26 PM
By the way this is especially true if what they want to do unto you is KILL you.
Lighten-up Francis

twindouble
09-21-2006, 08:55 PM
I think Chavez got his education on the American internet blogs and other chat forums. Hell we don't have respect for our fellow Americans, anything goes and nothing comes close to the truth ESP when it comes to Bush. Wecome to America Hugo. :bang:



T.D.

BenDiesel26
09-21-2006, 09:20 PM
Chavez comes here as the leader of a country that probably has one of the largest oil reserves in the world. Yet his country has an 85% poverty rate. Go figure. Not to mention he decides to give cheap oil to the poor, yet it is his country that is among the leadership of OPEC. Any body here want to claim to be friends with Chavez? Afterall, Americans are his friends.

lsbets
09-21-2006, 09:45 PM
Did anyone catch Charles Rangels comments about what Chavez said. Basically Rangel said forget about what he and others may say about the President, no foreign leader has should go into his neghborhood and his district and talk bad about his President. Here is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX1lBOxoJeU

If Democrats could talk like this more often, I would probably have a lot more respect for them.

Ponyplayr
09-21-2006, 10:33 PM
Chavez will get whacked as soon as Columbia sends Los Pepe's to Venezuela...The way Colombia is talking, it wont be to long now.

Tom
09-21-2006, 10:49 PM
It occurrs to me that both Hugo and little hitler could both be in the dem primaries and no one would bat an eye. I see essentially no differences betweent hem and, say Big Head Ted or Screamin Dean, of Pelosi, or............
same disgusting wastes of flesh. I n fact, Litlte hitler has a far more pleasant personality than any of them, and he makes Kerry look a corpse!

The enemy is blending.

sq764
09-21-2006, 11:18 PM
one of two incidences.
and the cowboy description is commonplace.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/neuharth/2004-05-13-neuharth_x.htm
Wow so all of the millions of people that have DUI's are all alcoholics?

Dude, again, you hate Bush, we get it.. Get over yourself. Worry about Canada, not America, we don't want you here.

sq764
09-21-2006, 11:20 PM
nope, but a continued history of problem drinking does.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush_substance_abuse_controversy
So Clinton is a drug addict.. I guess we all have our chronic problems

sq764
09-21-2006, 11:21 PM
Kill, send in missles, nuke em.....your answer to everything
Do nothing, turn the other way, let the terrorists plan under your nose.. Your answer to everything.

46zilzal
09-22-2006, 12:52 AM
first used when the rutabaga spoke to the VFW, these just might be of good use again here.

kenwoodallpromos
09-22-2006, 05:25 AM
This guy walks into the U.N., calls the USA Pres a devil, and is wearing a RED SUIT!LOL!!
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BOYCOTT CITCO!!

hcap
09-22-2006, 05:32 AM
Well, if ya keep da "H", and just add itler, ya got another ad hitlerum.

I don't think he is gonna be whacked anytime soon. Unless somebody in DC cooks up another bay of pigs. Here's Hugo..

http://www.rense.com/general73/chacvv.htm

Q: Your opponents are saying that you are beginning a slow-motion dictatorship. Is that what we are seeing?

Hugo Chavez: They have been saying that for a long time. When they're short of ideas, any excuse will do as a vehicle for lies. That is totally false. I would like to invite the citizens of Great Britain and the citizens of the U.S. and the citizens of the world to come here and walk freely through the streets of Venezuela, to talk to anyone they want, to watch television, to read the papers. We are building a true democracy, with human rights for everyone, social rights, education, health care, pensions, social security, and jobs.

This could piss off anyone

"In March 2004, it was revealed again that the U.S. had been secretly funding opponents of Chavez. Reporting on this, the British paper, The Independent noted that “Washington has been channelling hundreds of thousands of dollars to fund the political opponents of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez—including those who briefly overthrew the democratically elected leader in a coup two years ago.” Furthermore, “documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act reveal that, in 2002, America paid more than a million dollars to those political groups in what it claims is an ongoing effort to build democracy and ‘strengthen political parties’.”

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1298

Also on poverty:

http://www.cepr.net/publications/venezuelan_poverty_rates_2006_05.pdf

...The reduction in poverty noted above, since 1999, measures only cash income. This, however, does not really capture the changes in the living standards of the poor in Venezuela, since there have been major changes in non-cash benefits and services in the last few years - for example health care is now provided to an estimated 54 percent of the population. The paper looks briefly at the impact of these changes.



Well since mussolini got the trains running on time youse guys can claim another mussolini as well as another hitler.

lsbets
09-22-2006, 07:09 AM
Rense? :lol: :lol: Good to see your sources are getting better Hcap. Do a little reading beyond the propoganda that Chavez puts out and you will find out that pro-democracy opponents of Chavez have been regularly jailed, denied the right to free speech, and have not been allowed to partake in the political process. How is life in lefty fantasyland?

hcap
09-22-2006, 08:07 AM
Actually it was a greg palast interview. It was carried by others as well. Besides JR linked to rense the other day. No perches in these thar waters.

Chavez is not a dictator. The most grevious assult on his political opponents..

From Palast
The two founders of the nongovernmental organization, which led the recall campaign against Chavez, face eight years in prison for taking money from the Bush Administration and the International Republican [Party] Institute. No nation permits foreign funding of political campaigns, but the charges (no one is in jail) seem like a heavy hammer to use on the minor infractions of these pathetic gadflies.So yeah a stiff sentence.

His popular support is above 60%. Mostly from the poor and working class. There has been a long history-of-suprise, suprise-the US meddling in south american affairs and south american denocracies, But hey we was lookin out fer our intarests.

As I said..This could piss off anyone

"In March 2004, it was revealed again that the U.S. had been secretly funding opponents of Chavez. Reporting on this, the British paper, The Independent noted that “Washington has been channelling hundreds of thousands of dollars to fund the political opponents of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez—including those who briefly overthrew the democratically elected leader in a coup two years ago.” Furthermore, “documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act reveal that, in 2002, America paid more than a million dollars to those political groups in what it claims is an ongoing effort to build democracy and ‘strengthen political parties’.”

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1298 Looks like there has been a concerted effort by washington to regime change Chavez.

hcap
09-22-2006, 09:59 AM
BenDiesel26I think its funny how cocky these dictators are when speaking here. They do not understand how significant freedom of the press is. They act as if they have won us over, like the shade has been pulled over our eyes like they have done to their own people. It is pretty funny the claims Chavez made though. Besides calling Bush the devil, today he also called him a cowboy and an alcoholic.Well bush got muted applause-Chavez got much better, chuckles and a much much longer applause. So if you are detesting breach of decorum at the UN, don't seem like the UN guys minded. If your complaining that Chavez had the gall and you are shocked, shocked you say, to little pieces that any world leader would compare another to his evilness himself satan, need I point out to you your virgin ears are a bit forgetful.

How'bout our leedur calling Iran, Iraq and North Korea part of the "Axis of Evil" and term "Islamic fascists" Or bushies supporters invoking the now-standard tactic of comparing other heads of state, to hitler and the Nazi threat. Boy they were pretty evil too. Don't forget reagan and the "evil empire"

Then there's john bolton of course. Having once contended that "if the U.N. secretary building in New York lost 10 stories, it wouldn't make a bit of difference. If the UN guys can live with that, I guess Chavezs' awful non- statesmanship, but much appreciated applauded remarks can be accepted by same UN guys.

Btw, bolton also called kim jong Ill, in the middle of talks, a "tyrannical dictator" and the leader of an "evil regime."( Oh oh another breach of decorum.)

Oh yeah sen. voinovich, a member of the foreign relations committee, spoke at a committee hearing on Iran and, compared the iranian president to guess who-ya guessed it- Hitler and made fun of his name "Ahmadinejad -- I call him Ahmad-in-a-head -- I think he's a Hitler type of person."

Cowboy? Bush is a texan. His foreign policy is basicly YEEEHAWWW!!
Alcholic, well I agree Chavez could have passed on that. But bush himself admits he was until age 40, and AA says a reformed alcholic is just not drinking.

sq764
09-22-2006, 11:22 AM
In reality, who gives a crap what this idiot says.. He's obviously not being paid attention to enough and tries to use shock value to get attention..

Best thing to do is ignore these people. And now, of all things, he's being made a fool by a Dem backer..

46zilzal
09-22-2006, 11:37 AM
Ah but there is the alternative.

GaryG
09-22-2006, 11:46 AM
46 is becoming sort of a pussified version of hcap with all of these stupid visual aids.....I am neutral myself, I have no opinions on anything.

sq764
09-22-2006, 11:57 AM
46 is becoming sort of a pussified version of hcap with all of these stupid visual aids.....I am neutral myself, I have no opinions on anything.
It's hard to take this type of wuss Canadian seriously.. Just ignore him like everyone else does.

46zilzal
09-22-2006, 11:59 AM
Like I have said OVER AND OVER, I have NEVER been neutral on G. dubb. he is a joke.

GaryG
09-22-2006, 12:15 PM
Q E bleeping D. I rest my case. Hcap in drag. :lol:

Show Me the Wire
09-22-2006, 12:23 PM
Like I have said OVER AND OVER, I have NEVER been neutral on G. dubb. he is a joke.


Personally, I prefer the photo of the Clinton's as America's first family wearing Chinese cooley hats at the Great Wall Of China.

46zilzal
09-22-2006, 12:40 PM
Q E bleeping D. I rest my case. Hcap in drag.
"I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison and went to pick her up in the rain. Before I could get to the station in my pick up truck, she got run over by a damn old train."

GaryG
09-22-2006, 12:43 PM
"I was drunk the day my mom got out of prison and went to pick her up in the rain. Before I could get to the station in my pick up truck, she got run over by a damn old train."Sorry to hear about your mom....gotta watch the RR crossings when you are drunk though, try to remember and be more careful next time, ok?

46zilzal
09-22-2006, 12:45 PM
have to get it right so went to the source.
Coe explains that the perfect country and western song has to mention "Mama, or trains, or trucks, or prison, or gettin' drunk", whereupon he sings the last verse:

Well, I was drunk the day my Mom got out of prison,
And I went to pick her up in the rain,
But before I could get to the station in my pickup truck,
She got runned over by a damned old train.

BenDiesel26
09-22-2006, 01:30 PM
hcap, we get it you are one of Chavez's supporters and American friends that he speaks of. Chavez also said he regrets not being able to read Noam Chomsky's book while Chomsky was still alive. This must have been a surprise to Chomsky who is alive and well at the age of 77.

JustRalph
09-22-2006, 02:49 PM
You know 46, I am positive David Alan Coe would kick the shit out of you if he knew you............

46zilzal
09-22-2006, 02:59 PM
always violence and threats of violence....wonderful.
Yes isn't he a bit OBESE these days?? someone to really emulate as well:"David Allan Coe was in and out of reform schools, correction centers and prisons since the age of 9. One of the most fascinating -- and, some would say, dangerous -- figures in the entire history of country."

kenwoodallpromos
09-22-2006, 03:11 PM
Demos get too personal and emotional- neocons show no emotion and ignore too much going on around them.

hcap
09-22-2006, 03:12 PM
I never said Chavez was perfect. But he is a very democratically elected popular president. The fact that he thought Chomsky was dead is not a winning move, and even tho' bushs' towering intellect beats all other preznits' for some on this board, bush has been very wrong on larger issues, and guilty of much more than a few faux pas. :jump:

Chomsky has some interesting theories. Don't discount him cause Chavez recommended him. Or simply because you discount Chavez. Yep, Chomsky is da man. Maybe O'Liely will gim him an invite?

You know that after Chavez recommended Chomsky's 2003' "Hegemony and Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance", sales of the book went thru the roof. On Amazon.com's best-seller list, it leapt from 160,722nd position overnight to seventh.
Maybe youse guys can order in bulk and get a good price? :cool:

hcap
09-22-2006, 03:28 PM
sq, 1-How Long Before Mr Chavez has an 'accident'?
This guy's days are numbered.. He's itching to get smoked..

2-In reality, who gives a crap what this idiot says.. He's obviously not being paid attention to enough and tries to use shock value to get attention..Well obviously YOU care. Quote num 1 is how you started this idiotic thread. Looks like num 2 is when you realized not every one agreed with you except the usual suspects. Oh yeah, num 1 and num 2 both smell like num 2.

CryingForTheHorses
09-22-2006, 09:08 PM
This guy's days are numbered.. He's itching to get smoked..

Being a Canadian and not talking about your Americian poltics, I have always wanted to say just what you have.This guy needs to start looking over his shoulder as he is really a trouble maker.I cant understand why you would even let him in your country..Now he will go home and tell his people how he bullied the USA..Wake up America...All these guys are trying to gang up and become 1.

sq764
09-22-2006, 10:59 PM
sq, Well obviously YOU care. Quote num 1 is how you started this idiotic thread. Looks like num 2 is when you realized not every one agreed with you except the usual suspects. Oh yeah, num 1 and num 2 both smell like num 2.
I just post it to see what stupid remarks you will make. And as usual, you are like the Sunday paper - right on time.

It's bordering on sad that your hatred for Bush has overtaken every facet of your life. Then again, it's your sad life and no one else's, so certainly your prerogative...

sq764
09-22-2006, 11:01 PM
Being a Canadian and not talking about your Americian poltics, I have always wanted to say just what you have.This guy needs to start looking over his shoulder as he is really a trouble maker.I cant understand why you would even let him in your country..Now he will go home and tell his people how he bullied the USA..Wake up America...All these guys are trying to gang up and become 1.
We can't keep him out of the country, then Bush would be the demon, villian, devil again for that move..

Plus, what exactly has he accomplished, besides making a complete ass of himself? (well, and gain the admiration of Hcap and 46zilzal)?

Tom
09-22-2006, 11:10 PM
Did anyone catch Charles Rangels comments about what Chavez said. Basically Rangel said forget about what he and others may say about the President, no foreign leader has should go into his neghborhood and his district and talk bad about his President. Here is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX1lBOxoJeU

If Democrats could talk like this more often, I would probably have a lot more respect for them.

I think the dems who are outraged by this are hipocites, and it is their big fould mouths that encourage this type of crap. I think Rangels is as bad for this country as Chavez. I see no basic political difference between Chavez and the dems.

Tom
09-22-2006, 11:17 PM
Tom,
We have had worse than this little piss ant come here and make a fool of himself. I remeber watching Kruschev pound his shoe on the podium and thinking to myslef - what an idiot this guy is! When he was meeting with JFK, the picture was clear - the class was on our side. If Nikita was a leader of the people, the people must be in breds! :lol:
Little fools like this impress no one of any consequence. We weather the rants of wannabees. The very idea that this POS could say those things here and not go to jail really shows just what a laugh Venezualia is - try doing that there. Third and fourth world countries don't really matter.

PaceAdvantage
09-23-2006, 01:30 AM
hcap, we get it you are one of Chavez's supporters and American friends that he speaks of. Chavez also said he regrets not being able to read Noam Chomsky's book while Chomsky was still alive. This must have been a surprise to Chomsky who is alive and well at the age of 77.

That was the funniest thing I've heard in quite some time. A big dope, that's what Chavez is.....it's good to hear that Democrats have responded the way every red-blooded American should respond to talk like this from some punk-ass wannabee.....

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4207278.html