Live Selection For Thursday 8-31-06

[Anderon]

Todays tracks are....Arlington, Del Mar, Ellis, Golden Gate, Monmouth, and Saratoga !!

I'm a toteboard handicapper and I do only 1 horse selections. The recommended wager for these selections is to Win, but you'll find these selections excellent keys for the exotics as well !! I personally play all of these selections myself to Win.


Let's get Profitable !!

[Anderon]

Monmouth 2nd...#1 at 9/2...5 mtp

[Anderon]

Monmouth 2nd...#1 at 9/2...5 mtp

Winner....$8.20....$5.20

[Anderon]

Saratoga 2nd...#2 at 3-1...5 mtp

[Anderon]

Ellis 2nd...#5 at 2-1...5 mtp

[Anderon]

Ellis 2nd...#5 at 2-1...5 mtp

Easy Winner....$5.00....$2.60

[Anderon]

Monmouth 5th...#6 at 8/5...5 mtp


$2,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Saratoga 4th...#1 at 2-1..6 mtp


$10,000 to Win Major Play !!

[Anderon]

Ellis 3rd...#1 at 3-1...4 mtp


$1,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Monmouth 5th....Ran 3rd

Saratoga 4th......Ran 2nd....$2.80

Ellis 3rd.............Ran Out....horse almost went over the rail making his move for the lead on the turn for home and had to pull up !! :mad:


Just dropped $13,000 those three races :bang:

[Anderon]

Saratoga 5th...#7 at 9/5...5 mtp


$10,000 to Win

[banacek]

Saratoga 6th...#7 at 9/5...5 mtp


$10,000 to Win

Do you mean 5th?

[Anderon]

Ellis 4th...#3 at 2-1...6 mtp

$1,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Do you mean 5th?

Thanks Banacek, I edited it !!:)

[Anderon]

Ellis 4th...#3 at 2-1...6 mtp

$1,000 to Win

Ran 2nd...$3.00

[Anderon]

Monmouth 7th....$500 Exacta Box 2-7...2 mtp

[Anderon]

Monmouth 7th....$500 Exacta Box 2-7...2 mtp


Winner....$26.60....Race Profit...$5,650

[Anderon]

Ellis 5th #6 at 2-1...3 mtp


$2,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Ellis 5th #6 at 2-1...3 mtp


$2,000 to Win

Winner....$5.60...$3.00....Race Profit...$3,600

[Anderon]

Arlington 5th...#7 at 5/2...4 mtp


$3,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Arlington 6th...#5 at 2-1...5 mtp


$3,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Ellis 7th...#4 at 3-1...6 mtp


$3,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Arlington 6th...#5 at 2-1...5 mtp


$3,000 to Win

Got nosed out Ran 2nd...$2.80

[Anderon]

Quick Update


12 Plays with 1 exacta play (13 Plays)


3 Win...1 Exacta Win (4 Total Wins)

3 Place

2 Show


Down $23,750 at this point today !!

[Anderon]

Ellis 8th...#3 at 5/2...7 mtp


$5,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Golden Gate 2nd...#4 at 8/5...5 mtp


$5,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Saratoga 9th...#2 at 9/2...3 mtp


$5,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Golden Gate 2nd...#4 at 8/5...5 mtp


$5,000 to Win

Ran 2nd....$2.80

[Anderon]

Ellis 9th...#10 at 9/2...6 mtp


$5,000 to Win

[Anderon]

I only got $3,000 in on him !!

[Anderon]

Del Mar 3rd...#2 at 2-1...8 mtp


$15,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Well I don't know what to tell ya....I'm playin the same way as I did yesterday and I'm getting killed right now...I'm down a little over $56,000 at this point...so I really suck today. :ThmbDown: I will stay at it for a bit but if I don't hit soon I'm going to take a hike for the rest of the day. My bank is still ok but as I always say "I don't play with scared money" so I will still fire for a few more plays and see if we can't get back to near even. Only 2 tracks going right now too.

[Anderon]

Del Mar 5th...#1 at 3-1...8 mtp


$15,000 to Win

[Anderon]

I played this 9 at Golden Gate for $3,000...late play for me...sorry

[Anderon]

Golden Gate 6th race by the way

[Anderon]

Del Mar 6th #4 at 2-1...4 mtp

$10,000 to Win

[Anderon]

Golden Gate 8th...#2 at 7/2...2 mtp


$2,000 to Win

[Anderon]

I ended up putting $4,000 on him at Golden Gate !!

[Anderon]

Golden Gate 8th...#2 at 7/2...2 mtp


$2,000 to Win

I can't believe it a Winner....$9.20....$5.20...Race Profit..$14,400

[Anderon]

Todays Recap


21 Plays...With 1 Exacta Play (22 Plays)


4 Winners.....$-14.00 (Loss)

4 Place...........$-14.60 (Loss)

5 Show

Based on $2.00 to W & P


Personally today I dropped $69,710 without rebates !! Someone should just http://forum2.therx.com/images/smilies/nohead.gif me but we'll see what tommorow brings. I'm not too http://forum2.therx.com/images/smilies/trx-smly35.gifyet.

[Light]

Personally today I dropped $69,710 without rebates !.

So where did you get all this dough to waste?

[tonto1944]

It's Monopoly Money. If you believe this guy is actually betting these ,I have a Bridge for Sale.

[Anderon]

I would be glad to show you my wagering account activity !! Just pm me or email me and ask !!

[Light]

Anderon

Not interested in your wagering log. I asked where you got all the dough to blow?

[Anderon]

I retired out of the insurance business after 21 years, which has been about 6 years now. I did estate tax planning, life insurance and investments (ira's annuities) for my clients. So I made this money myself. I'm just about to be 46 years old and have been self employed all my life from the age of 17 when I owned a janitorial company and then went into the insurance business at 19. I have been playing the horses since I was 16 when I lived in Omaha,NE at the old Aksarben race track. Since I retired and the internet age got alot better I started to develope my software program in 2000 around the Win pools and Exacta pools to detect what I call smart money and handicap my selections from this information, as I have played this way all my horse racing life, I'm a numbers guy...love numbers. Here is how my progression has been over the years. I always lost, never could win...started to make some wins but still lost, then I was able to hold my money together, but not really make anything...then I was able to make money at points but still not profit over the year...to now where I make money at it consistantly. I can have a losing record as far as my selections go in a given day but still profit because of how I wager on those selections. I don't play scared like I used to in the earlier days cause that will absolutley kill ya. I know what I do works and I have the most complete confidence in what I do, so if I have a bad day I know the next can be even better. Believe me I don't like to take those big hits but I know I can hit big too. I know players that with what I play with, this just chump change to them.

[Light]

Anderon

I know people in the insurance business. But I don't know any of them that have 69K to lose in one day.

The reason I was asking you what you did for a living is that if you did make serious enough dough to lose 69k in one day and not be a big deal,then there is a contradiction. Why would someone who is smart enough to make major dough,be foolish enough to wager serious money on horses. Especially when the ROI is scary.

The super rich dudes like Stienbrenner or even the Shieks,all own horses or stables. They do not waste their money wagering,at least not on a consistent basis as you do. So help me out.Do you own horses? Did your insurance work pay as much as A-Rod earns?

[Anderon]

Light

I believe your looking at this all wrong, the day before I won over $40,000 and made $6,350 yesterday and I'm doing well today but I'm not posting of course. It's not like the $69,000 loss was all my money and all my bank it's just a part of it, my bank is healthy at this point, so I can weather the storm, unless I have a string bad days like that then I'm hurting for sure. My net loss for the last few days is totally tolerable for me. I just trust in what I do and that's a big big difference when playing this game...having confidence on bad days knowing it won't last for long stretches and knowing it will be good the next time out. I do still receive renewals every month from my years in the business. I dedicated a few years of my income to my starting bankroll for this purpose.

[xtb]

I don't think Steinbrenner and the shieks make their money from owning horses, or that all "super rich dudes" own horses.

[Light]

Anderon

There are many proffessionals in various fields that play the races. There are very few who bet on the scale of wagering you claim to be making.Usually people wagering such high sums as you claim to do,play in privacy for obvious reasons. IRS being one of them,hurting their own odds is another. Avoiding becoming a victim to a crime is a third.No one in their right mind would flaunt a 69k losing day and a 40k winning day on the internet if it was real.

I don't think Steinbrenner and the shieks make their money from owning horses, or that all "super rich dudes" own horses.

Precisely. Betting horses would be even more foolish for people with that kind of dough.

[Light]

Anderon

I'll cut to the chase. I've seen you quit posting on this board. Then go over to the DMR forum board in the guise of US2000. When someone mentioned PA there,you said as US2000 that you wanted nothing to do with PA. When US2000 got ridiculed off that board,you showed back up here as Anderon and again started posting. Coincidence?How do I know you are the same person? Cause You say the same exact things verbatim. He also uses the tote with software with the same exact story of its development as you? DUH!

I know people tend to give you a hard time,and I dont mean to. I find you amusing with these obvious disguises. I have nothing against anyone posting picks. I don't think anyone believes you really bet what you say you bet.I was just trying to see what story you would come up with when I asked where you got so much money to burn.You could have done better than the insurance line,cause they dont make that kind of dough. You should have said you forecasted the real estate boom. I would have had a hard time with that. One suggestion.It would have been more plausible if you kept the amount wagered more realistic as you did in the begining. The majority of handicappers can relate to a realistic wager. Lose 69k one day.Win 40k another.How believable is that?Flip the channel.

[Anderon]

Light Light Light.....



I've been thru this all before on these threads about me being Ultimate Selector (I think this is who you are talking about, not US2000) but this is my twin brother that who posts under that name not me. You can ask PA as he knows this from previous discussions on this matter. He was booted from here and went over to the other boards and started posting so that is why you would see the similarities on the postings.

I'm sorry you have a hard time believing that people in the insurance business don't make good money but I know a few that are multi-millionaires from that business. I made mine from doing estate tax planning and selling multi-million dollar life policies to people that have large estate to enable their heirs to pay the estate taxes on the inheritance thru irrevocable life insurance trusts. Let me tell you when you sell a $10-30 million dollar policy and make $100,000 - $500,000 or more in commission from it then I think you can understand how I made money in this business. I had my own firm for 21 years doing this.

As far as posting realistic wagers I do...I've even offered you personally and anyone else to play live with me at anytime, your more than welcome to. I've had more requests to post my wagers again from when I was just posting the selections without the wager amounts that I went back to doing so. Here's the problem to this, If I didn't post wager amounts and just like the other day I had just a couple of winners out of my selections but I still made a profit personally, no one would believe that either, so it's somewhat of a catch 22. I have no problem in just posting the selection without the wager amounts but it's not a true picture of my profitablity or loss for the day because I of the way I wager on each race. I could just post the selections and let it be at that if that's better. If you ever watch some of my posts on the selections I tell you what I'm gunna do, and when to watch for the money that is going to come in, cause alot of it's mine. I will also be glad to show you my wagering activities from my wagering account when you get live with me or anyone else that would like to, just let me know.

I know your still wondering why I'm willing to do this, for one, I want to show how this really works to the average horse player and how money really is made at his game, I think it's enlightning and for me it's fun because I love what I do and I'm always trying to improve myself everyday as I study and review my wagers for the day everynight and see where I made mistakes or what I did right. Let me say this tho....In this game it takes money to make money no secret about that. You won't make it big with a small bankroll because the human element will get you, but if you have a large bankroll you can weather the storms and not have to try to make a big profit all the time and the human element is alot easier to handle.

As far as the IRS goes I have no problem cause I file every year and pay what is due...you know there is a full history of your wagering activities where ever you place your wagers, so if someone ever gets audited you could get hung out to dry if your not declareing cause all they have to do is pull your wagering record and see if your making a profit. I'm not sure what you mean by becomming a victim to crime?

I do respect your questions and skeptisim Light, if you have any more questions please feel free to ask at anytime. I've said it before I'm an open book. I have a couple of friends that are members of the forum that I met on here that we get together every so often and play live, so there are people that know I'm for real.


Thanks

[Light]

Light Light Light.....


I made mine from doing estate tax planning and selling multi-million dollar life policies to people that have large estate to enable their heirs to pay the estate taxes on the inheritance thru irrevocable life insurance trusts. Let me tell you when you sell a $10-30 million dollar policy and make $100,000 - $500,000 or more in commission from it then I think you can understand how I made money in this business.
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You got me here. You are telling me you sold multimillion dollar policies? Who pays multimillion dollars for a policy? Not even the super rich. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this,but I just did a trust ,and the point is to avoid probate and its major expenses:lawyers+time. Elvis Presley and Marylin Monroe's heirs both only recieved one tenth of the worth of their respective estates. This was due to probate.Trusts are an affordable way of avoding probate. The average cost for a trust is around $3000,not millions.

[Anderon]

You got me here. You are telling me you sold multimillion dollar policies? Who pays multimillion dollars for a policy? Not even the super rich. Maybe I'm misunderstanding this,but I just did a trust ,and the point is to avoid probate and its major expenses:lawyers+time. Elvis Presley and Marylin Monroe's heirs both only recieved one tenth of the worth of their respective estates. This was due to probate.Trusts are an affordable way of avoding probate. The average cost for a trust is around $3000,not millions.

When I'm talking about multi-million dollar policies I'm talking of the death benefit of the life insurance policy paid to the trust for the heirs to pay estate taxes on multi-million dollar estates. You don't pay multi-million dollars for a life insurance policy or a 2nd to die policy, but hundreds of thousands is not out of the question. It all depends on the age of the insureds and the death benefit needed when they finally decide to set this all up, generally they are older so it costs more in premium the older you get. It may only cost $3,000 or so to actually set up the trust from attorney's but you have the cost of the annual premium of the poilcy going into the trust each year and a crummy letter that goes to the beneficiaries of that trust each to have the option to withdraw any money out, but usually the beneficiaries turn down the request to draw money out as it benefits them not to.

I hope this helps a little more for you.

[Light]

Anderon

You are flashing me back to when I was 18 years old. I used to work in Manhattan at that time for TIAA-Cref. I used to be an insurance clerk. My job was dealing with the premiums due. I only worked there several months to make some money for college. Later I worked for another insurance company for several months. Found insurance worked very boring. Havent done it since.

You sound like you know what you're talking about insurance wise. Yes I can see how an owner of an insurance company can make some dough. An average worker,no. I hope for your sake you're telling the truth because it really only matters to you.