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BenDiesel26
08-31-2006, 11:02 AM
Article 1 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/08/30/wmid130.xml)

Article 2 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=XZMBBQGAAQASNQFIQMGSFFWAVCBQ WIV0?xml=/opinion/2006/08/30/dl3002.xml)

Show Me the Wire
08-31-2006, 11:09 AM
Hmmmm.......take responsibility for your actions and do not blame every failure on someone else, a good idea and possibly good start too.

Light
08-31-2006, 11:24 AM
When you are under occupation,basic necessities are at stake. Such as your ability to walk down the street without getting killed or arrested. With over 10,000 Palestinians in Israeli jails and 200 Palestinians killed since June,you'd have to be labotomized not be aware of the violations to basic human rights under occupation. Would Americans write such a stupid article if they were under occupation? Remember 1776? DUH! First give them their basic liberties of freedom from occupation. Then you can tell them to stop blaming Israel.

BenDiesel26
08-31-2006, 11:46 AM
First you side with the terrorists, then you disagree with what they say when they oppose your viewpoint? I suggest you read the articles over. He speaks of what happened since Israel left Gaza over a year ago. And against your viewpoints, claims that firing rockets into Israel for no reason does none other than provoke Israeli attacks. By the way, did you see the article where Nasrallah openly admitted his actions started the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict?

BenDiesel26
08-31-2006, 11:51 AM
By the way, the article speaks of Palestineans murdering other Palestineans in the article, nothing to do with Israeli's.

BenDiesel26
08-31-2006, 12:15 PM
Light, welcome to Pallywood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys#IIfAj_eg2EE

Tom
08-31-2006, 12:34 PM
And the Oscar goes to.......:D

Love the crowd running awat when the guys comes back to life!
"Jumping Jihad! He's alive!" RUN! :lol:


note to self: NO palestinean pall bearers!

Secretariat
08-31-2006, 02:18 PM
Hmmmm.......take responsibility for your actions and do not blame every failure on someone else, a good idea and possibly good start too.

It would be if that's what the article was actually saying. However, it does not blame the Hamas government, but thugs who have taken over the Gaza strip.

I applaud Ghazi Hamad for making this statment however. It is an indication that what is occurring in the Gaza is beyond the control of Hamas or Fatah to currently control. That is not good.

But do not deceive yourself into beleiving that this is the Paelstinian government criticizing itself and absolving Israel. Remember these recent quotes:

"Today Gaza, tomorrow Jerusalem.”
Mahmoud Abbas, President of Paelstine

"We will never recognize the state of Israel,”
Mahmoud Abbas, President of Paelstine

"We expect President Bush to implement his own vision of a two-state solution, the birth of the Palestinian State and the ending of the occupation that started in 1967."
Mahmoud Abbas, President of Paelstine

"We will not rest until we liberate all Palestinian land, crowned by Jerusalem.”
Ismail Haniya, Prime Minister of Palestine

“The main problem is the Zionist (Israeli) occupation and continuing aggression against our people.”
Ismail Haniya, Prime Minister of Palestine

If Israel withdraws to the 1967 borders, then we will establish a peace in stages. We will establish a situation of stability and calm, which will bring safety for our people. We do not have any feelings of animosity towards Jews. We do not wish to throw them into the sea. All we seek is to be given our land back, not to harm anybody.”
Ismail Haniya, Prime Minister of Palestine

“It's for the international community to put strong pressure on Israel to restore our rights and end all the occupation.”
Ismail Haniya, Prime Minister of Palestine

and lest we forget the speaker of the current state of Gaza:

"The continued (Israeli) occupation is the reason behind the tensions and the never-ending cycle of violence.”

Ghazi Hamad, Spokeman for Hamas

....

The bottom line is we have to look at what occurred in 1967 and deal from at least that point.

For Hamas to blame a deteriorating condition in Gaza on Paelstinian thugs is not absolving Israel long term, and those who think it so are being naive in their reasoning.