Money Well Spent

[LaughAndBeMerry]

From The Blood Horse:

The Green Monkey, this year's record-setting $16 million 2-year-old purchase, will not make his long-awaited debut at Saratoga Race Course, according to trainer Todd Pletcher. "The Green Monkey pulled a gluteal muscle in his last work [August 2] and will be off for a couple of weeks, just jogging," Pletcher said Monday. "Unfortunately, he won't run at Saratoga."

Best case scenario is he runs late Sept at BEL. Means no BC, no chance at top 2YO. Means he's got one year to build a reputation that will allow him to earn back that purchase price. I'd lay odds against him ever winning a G1 stake.

More insanity in the bloodstock market.

P.S. I understand from people that have seen him work that he doesn't look like anything special.

[Pgh. Gere]

Thanks for the update. I've been following this one due to that outrageous 16mill tag. Guess the pressure to get him on the TC trail is getting greater by the day.

[BIG49010]

I hope they took out a big insurance policy, if he turns out to be a dud!:bang:

[kenwoodallpromos]

Is that a sore ass?

[Wiley]

Or maybe a convienent excuse, not to get the colt's gluteal muscle kicked and to not embarass him running against and in front of all the bluebloods at 'Toga.

[LaughAndBeMerry]

Yes, he is indeed sore behind. Typically, that isn't soemthing that resolves itself in a few weeks, but of course, I don't know the extent of the injury. IMHO, it's 50/50 whether he gets to the races at all this year.

As an aside, I hear from a well-connected source that the bloodstock market will implode at the KEE SEPT sale. Owners have finally gotten weary of keeping 7 figure cripples as pets.

[classhandicapper]

Is that a sore ass?

:lol:

[bigmack]

Is that a sore ass?
It certainly is

[Cesario!]

The beauty of the whole situation is that Coolmore can absorb that risk, whether he's a success at the racetrack, at stud, or neither.

Wow..I'd love to be able to absorb a $16 million risk one day. :cool:

[kenwoodallpromos]

So far, $320k per f for the work.
Was GM hurt PRIOR to the hotwalk work?
Pletcher after work- "1st race undetermined". Maybe the 2nd half of the meet.
If I were a betting man, I would start to guess ship to TP and the rubber track. USA's first Polysire.

[Pgh. Gere]

Bigmack- :lol: :lol:


Now that picture is priceless.

[bigmack]

Bigmack- :lol: :lol: Now that picture is priceless.
Glad it turned out better than another misguided attempt at garnering a yuck

[falconridge]

As an aside, I hear from a well-connected source that the bloodstock market will implode at the KEE SEPT sale. Owners have finally gotten weary of keeping 7 figure cripples as pets.
http://www.threestooges.net/images/episodes/40.jpg
Three bloodstock agents size up a stallion prospect

[kenwoodallpromos]

http://www.threestooges.net/images/episodes/40.jpg
Three bloodstock agents size up a stallion prospect
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And I thought a "length" was 8 feet!

[46zilzal]

Seattle Dancer 13.1 mill won $152,413
Snaafi Dancer (my all time favorite) 10.2 mill UN RACED, sterile too.
Imperial Falcon 8.25 mill won $13,395
Jareer 7.1 mill won $5,591
Laa Etabb 7 mill unraced
Tasmanian Tiger 6.8 mill won $10,655
Amjaad 6.5 mill unplaced in 4 starts
Van Nistlerooy 6.4 mill won $229,980 what a return
Alajiwad 5.5 mill won $1,348
Obligato 5.4 mill unplaced
King's Consul 5.3 mill won $24,600
Wassl Touch 5.1 mill won $30,168
Parlando 4.6 mill unraced
Professor Blue 4.6 mill placed $5,171
Moon's Whsiper 4.4 mill unraced
Shah Jehan 4.4 mill won $158,457
Empire Glory 4.25 mill won $35,420
Foxboro 4.25 mill unplaced
Distinction 4.2 mill won $41,878


and this goes on and on. Give me a John Henry anytime.

[bigmack]

Might not be able to buy it 46, but it's a mighty good conduit

[falconridge]

Thanks, 46. Your list makes it apparent that indeed it cannot.

Quiz:

1) Name the only world record-priced yearling ever to "win himself out" on the racetrack (i.e., to earn more in purses than his purchaser[s] spent to procure the critter at auction).* Hint (admittedly, of the vaguest kind): I saw him break his maiden in his debut at Bay Meadows.

2) Name the only world record-priced yearling ever to win an Eclipse Award. Hint: While he didn't quite win himself out as a runner, he did prove to be a reasonably good investment. Another hint: He wasn't consigned by the three "bloodstock agents" in the recently posted photo.

Prize for the first correct answers: a season for your mare in the court of either of stallions described above.

*With, as 46's list indicates, the world record being more than $13 million, this isn't likely to happen again any time soon.

[bigmack]

Prize for the first correct answers: a season for your mare in the court of either of stallions described above.
Could be a tough one Falc. Swirl this article around fellas:
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/allaboutpurses/allaboutpurses.asp

[46zilzal]

Fusaichi and Favorite Trick come to mind as possibilities

[46zilzal]

Favorite Trick 2.2 mill yearling won a lot, but around 1.25 mill so even though this one was an Eclipse award winner...hmmm

[falconridge]

Fusaichi and Favorite Trick come to mind as possibilities[Cue Alex Trebek]: Oooh, I'm sorry; that's incorrect. Overlay? DrugS?

Pretty good guess, though. I know that FuPeg won plenty of loot, but his $4m purchase price was well short of the record by the time he entered (and emerged from) the sales ring--though quite a bit more than the then-record sums paid for the two horses I'm asking about. What's more, I'm not sure that FuPeg actually did win himself out on the track (come to think of it, not likely--inasmuch as he was in the barn of Neil "Scratch 'Em" Drysdale).

Another hint: In the career of horse #1, that maiden-breaker came against two-year-olds in the autumn of 1968 (making our first mystery colt a foal of 1966--which means, of course, that he was eligible for the classics of 1969).

[46zilzal]

Majestic Prince earned more than the 250K purchase price racing on the West coast. FuPeg earned about half on the track but 60-80 million syndication counts for a lot.

[bigmack]

That's it 46 - It's gotta be Falc

http://www.pedigreequery.com/majestic+prince

[46zilzal]

Nijinsky earned his way out as well 84K cost 677K earnings
Optimistic Gal cost 55K won 686K
Triple Bend cost 100K won 366K

[falconridge]

Majestic Prince earned more than the 250K purchase priceRight you are, 46.

Now, for some further hints about mystery colt #2: Though this stylishly bred half-brother to Naskra brought his owner much pleasure, the turf writers who voted on 3yo divisional honors were foolish (in my book, anyway) to select this colt over the Leroy Jolley-trained winner of that year's Kentucky Derby (I think they somehow still "blamed" him and his connections for the Ruffian match race fiasco). He no more deserved the top prize than his sumo-wrestling eponym (okay, a little more; alright already!--a lot more).

[falconridge]

Nijinsky earned his way out as well 84K cost 677K earnings
Optimistic Gal cost 55K won 686K
Triple Bend cost 100K won 366KYes, and Seattle Slew cost but $17K--but none of the sums you quote was a record at the time of the sale.

[46zilzal]

wajima???

[falconridge]

wajima???Wajima went for more than $600K--a record at the time (1973?) for a yearling at auction. Though he didn't quite earn that much in purses (too brief a career), he turned out to be better than an empty stall, and he fetched still more--much more, I'm sure, though I can't recall the figure--in stallion syndication.

[46zilzal]

Was just going to tell you about a nag running in the 8th at Ellis named Claremont. Ran well for 3rd.

[bigmack]

stylishly bred half-brother to Naskra
Don't find Wajima being a half-brother to Naskra?

Good art from 81 Times
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9404E4DE1F38F931A25754C0A967948260

[46zilzal]

same broodmare

[bigmack]

46 - Where did you find the figs on first post regarding sale price/earnings?

[46zilzal]

American Racing Manual and Thoroughbred Times yearbook

[falconridge]

Was just going to tell you about a nag running in the 8th at Ellis named Claremont. Ran well for 3rd.Okay, okay; I GET it, already! ;) I KNOW I can be a nag; just ask my wife (SHE should talk?!). And I'm sure you've already seen that trait amply demonstrated on this board. :D

(BTW, 46: just kidding!):ThmbUp:

Mack: Wasn't Wajima out of Iskra, by Le Haar? I thought I was sure that Naskra was by Nasram, and out of the same dam as Wajima's. Still, I should have looked it up. :blush: In any event, Wajima did edge Foolish Pleasure in the Eclipse voting for top three-year-old male. I know the former beat the latter--by a head (?)--in an early-autumn stakes at Belmont, but FP was conceding W a good stone or so with the impost, and returning from a long break (hadn't "raced" since, as Moody Jolley put it after Ruffian's breakdown, FP "threw a fast half at the bitch and she came unbuckled").

P.S.: Re Wajima's and Naskra's dam: I see that 46 has beaten me to the post (as frequently happens). Sorry for the redundancy.

[bigmack]

"threw a fast half at the bitch and she came unbuckled").

A perhaps LKF (little known fact):

Wajima was purchased by James Scully, agent for Japanese breeder Zenya Yoshida who named him after the famous Sumo wrestler of the time; Wajima Hiroshi. With hope during his bouts he didn't become "unbuckled"
http://sumo.goo.ne.jp/eng/kiroku_daicho/mei_yokozuna/img/wajima.jpg