Dynamic Ability: Mathematical Determination of a Thoroughbred's Capacity to Race

[cj]

This book is by Walter Seip. He wrote in article in the current issue of Horseplayer magazine, which I found interesting. The book, however, is very had to find on the web despite being published in 2005. I did find one, and only one, and ordered it.

The two things that interested me were the effect of carrying weight and the effect of maturation on horse's performances.

[pressman]

The Gamblers Book Club lists it on their online catalog at $33.88

[GameTheory]

I got it from Gamber's Book. Looks like they still have it.

Here is the author's page:

http://seip-ventures.com/

[cj]

I got it from Gamber's Book. Looks like they still have it.

Here is the author's page:

http://seip-ventures.com/

What did you think of it?

[GameTheory]

What did you think of it?It's a ramble-fest. Should have been called, "My random thoughts about horse racing".

It starts with an article that has been in the Bris library for a while:

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/static.cgi?page=Afunnycidething

Is that the same article in Horseplayer mag?


It is rather bizarre actually. He seemed to talk about these adjustments he makes to speed figures, but without actually explaining how to do it. Unless he did and I just didn't get it. (If you take a bunch of notes, you may be able to piece together the hints from different parts of the book, I'm not sure.) He has a whole chapter about how his PERSONAL SOFTWARE (not for sale) formats the PP's for him -- just in case you wanted to know I guess. He's got a chapter on the history of the rules of racing going back a few hundred years. He's got rant on jockeys stiffing horses, and miscellaneous other stuff. In the last chapter, our very own Karl's Korner makes an appearance with the nickname "Double Beep". Karl is apparently is a buddy of the author's, and wanted him to do a statistical analysis of the Chinese Double. (I'm assuming it is our Karl -- how many Karls are there interested in the Chinese Double?)

Anyway, I couldn't make much sense of it, maybe you can do better. Or someone could email the author and ask him what the heck he's talking about...

[timtam]

I guess that was the review you were going to do for me a few months

ago eh game theory? oh well , better late than never its a good thing

I didn't purchase the book.

[GameTheory]

I guess that was the review you were going to do for me a few months

ago eh game theory? oh well , better late than never its a good thing

I didn't purchase the book.Yeah, I'm not known for timeliness. Actually, I was going to give it another shot and try to make sense of it and try to write something more comprehensive. But I didn't get very far...

[46zilzal]

The two things that interested me were the effect of carrying weight and the effect of maturation on horse's performances.
Horses tend to apportion their speed better as they age. Two year olds, in my studies, appear to be about 25% earlier than they are at three and only slightly less at 4.

[Tom]

Gambler's Book Shop has it - on the shelves Wednesday when I was in there.
Talk about a store! You could spend a week in the back room going thorugh the old stuff.

[Handiman]

I bought it and read it. Nice little book, but don't expect to glean much from it. It's mostly trip down memory lane and then a little personal twists to handicapping that the writer does personally.....which I didn't think transferred very well to the real world of handicapping. I maybe wrong. I'm not sorry I bought the book, as I love to read all things horsey.


Handi

[highnote]

I went to his website, but was not inspired to buy his book. There was some interesting stuff. Worth a visit.

[karlskorner]

To the best of my knowledge I don't know the man. People come and go, most are GONE big time. Doing a statistical analysis on the Chinese Double wouldn't make any sense to me, it's a seat of the pants thing, after you do the numbers, you ask why ? Doing it over a period of time you learn when to play and when to watch. Knowing the Owners/Trainers who play into the CD is most helpful.

[GameTheory]

To the best of my knowledge I don't know the man. People come and go, most are GONE big time. Doing a statistical analysis on the Chinese Double wouldn't make any sense to me, it's a seat of the pants thing, after you do the numbers, you ask why ? Doing it over a period of time you learn when to play and when to watch. Knowing the Owners/Trainers who play into the CD is most helpful.I guess that answers the question how many Karl's are interested in the Chinese Double -- at least two. I think you'd remember the guy since according to the book "Karl" gave away his wife at his wedding...

[karlskorner]

Nope wasn't me, the last lady I gave away was my 6th daughter and none of my girls are married to writers or horseplayers. At this point in my life I seem to be attending lots of funerals and pissing on "certain" peoples graves.

[rrbauer]

When over half of the web-page dissertation on "Performance Enhancing" is about Viagra I'd have to pass on buying any books that this guy writes about horse-race handicapping (I already know what to do with colts that are acting studdish in the walking ring!).