Today at the Rock

[melman]

R1 2-7-4
R2 1-5-6
R3 5-1-3
R4 6-7-1
R5 5-8-7
R6 3-1-4
R7 4-3-2
R8 2-7-6
R9 3-4-1
R10 4-5-1

Has anyone from this board been to Rockingham this year?? I understand they are doing a nice job up there with there 100th birthday year.

[Zman179]

I made my first visit there a couple of Wednesdays ago during the torrential monsoon. Was pretty cool, had a table, tv and two chairs right on the finish line for only $2. Both of us, me and my friend, really liked the place though the track is now way to big for it's clientèle.

Will definitely go back there when I'm up to doing the 4 hour drive again.

[Suff]

R1 2-7-4
Has anyone from this board been to Rockingham this year?? I understand they are doing a nice job up there with there 100th birthday year.

I went Belmont day to spend the day with John and another PA user.
Nice time. ..........although the place is crumbling.

John's got a private box up there and when we walked in it was like he was the MAYOR of Rockingham. He knows everybody and is well liked.

[melman]

Had a friend of mine who used to go up to the Rock every summer when the t-breds where racing there. Suff he may have known your friend as many of regulars up there seemed to know each other quite well. His name was George Walker and his wife Barbara. Of course George and "Babs" private box was a lawn chair near the wire. :jump: :jump:

[John]

The owner Geo. Carney died a few years ago. His family let the General Manager Ed Callahan pretty much run the place. Callahan is a nice man but not a well man. He has kidney problems and stays in his office that is in another building a way from the grand stand and club house.....and I believe his roots are in Harness racing from
his earlier days.

His staff do a pretty good job.under the condition. Larry Murphy,Admissions Director does more than his job calls for and so does his staff.

The place is run down, the parking lot has pot holes.The ceilings have the old fashion form blocks.When it rains and there is a leak in the roof these blocks become heavy and can come down.The ceilings have water marks all over them.The air condition in the Terrace club horse is bad on hot days.Although management has tried to correct the problem. It probably needs a new system.

Us box owners main complaint is the Bingo players. Especially on weekend when most simulcast tracks run their feature races at 5:30 to 6:00. They allow the Bingo player to sit in any box free after 5:30.Bingo players will harass the horse players by asking them if they can leave their belongs in your box.until you leave or insist that they leave something on your table to claim it from other bingo player.It forces you to leave the area and sit and play on the other side away from bingo players.

Will there ever be live Thoroughbred race again at Rockingham. Not under the present owners. Will slot machines make it a better place to attend. Yes, I think Rockingham would spruce up the place if they could have slots. I believe Slots would bring in a younger crowd that may get interested in horse racing.

Other than that, the food is good. Better than a lot of other tracks I have been to.There buffet is worth the price Everything on the table looks fresh and taste good.

I will invite the Rocingham Staff to address the above if they wish to.

Best of luck to a future Rockingham.

[John]

Ed Callahan <ecallahan@rockinghampark.com> wrote:

John,
Thank you for sending me the posts from your board. I attempted to reply to the board but I am not a registered user. Possibly you could pass this along.

First, my health, although it is true I am in kidney failure I feel very good and spend considerable time in the Clubhouse and Grandstand area, if any of the board visits please let me know. If anyone is interested in donating a kidney that would be fine too.
Rockingham has a great history and regrettably like most of the Harness and Thoroughbred industry we have seen better days. Revenue is down 50% from the year they opened Foxwoods in CT. Our staff does a great job with the financial restraints that must be on them. We offer a great facility as compared to many, yes there are some roof leaks that we continue to work on, and yes we need to replace a few air conditioning units in the Turf Club but we are proud of what we have and continue to provide some of the freindliest service in the business.
The future could be a great one with appropriate revenue streams, or without the right legislation we will probably only race another 3 or 4 years before development takes over.
Hopefully I have answered the Board comments and would be happy to do so in the future. I am glad we have people out there that are interested and we will try to improve on some of the problems.

Ed Callahan
btw it was Joe Carney not George (George owns Raynham Dog Track)

[Suff]

he he..good goin Johnny..:jump:


I'll see what I can do about getting O'malley out here to stand up for Suffolk!

You work on Max Ugall!

PA why don't you sign him up and Johnny can give him his users name and password next time he's at THE ROCK!

[melman]

John, it would be nice indeed if all track mangement would respond so quickly. I hope all goes well for Ed Callahan and The Rock. Really enjoy betting on the Rock's Harness racing and hope that things break right and they stay in business for many years. Sadly I hear what Mr Callahan is talking about with "development" as the old Liberty Bell Park became a super mall. Garden State Park going the same way.

[Zman179]

It's nice to see that Mr. Callahan responded to some of the comments made here. I wish Mr. Callahan all the best of luck with his health.

Rockingham Park was a really nice place and the people there helped a lot whenever I had to ask questions (and I had to ask a few.) My friend really liked it up there a lot and wants to spend a full week up there before the meet closes.

This is one track that I do not mind giving my business to. As long as the Rock races trotters, I'll bet on 'em.

[John]

You know guys,Suffolk Downs faces the same dilemma as Rockingham Park.maybe more being in Massachusetts the State take may be higher than New Hampshire.I am not sure. Also the expense of a full barn area and a higher purse distribution than the harness races. We all thought the slot bill would go through this year for Massachusetts. It was put down by the House of Representatives

SUFF, would be the guy to fill you in on Suffolk Downs SUFF, was affiliated with the horsemen until a year or two ago and still has contacts there. There was some talk of Rock running Thoroughbred Turf races this year. Maybe SUFF or Ed Callahan can fill us in.

Zman179, Let me know when you and your friends come to Rock again. I would like to say Hello.

JOHN

[melman]

Almost post for the 1st at Rock but here goes.

R1 4-8-5
R2 1-7-3
R3 4-1-2
R4 2-3-1
R5 8=7=2
R6 1-3-5
R7 5-4-3
R8 5-8-3
R9 6-7-8
R10 2-4-6

[Zman179]

Been beaten like a drum the first six races (had the $18 winner of the 3rd but couldn't collect.) Here's my late Rock choices:

R7 6-5-8
R8 4-7-6
R9 6-7-4

R10 to follow

[melman]

R7 was a nice result for you Zman. The exacta paid $119.40 and was your 1st and 3rd picks. I had the 7 in the 2nd race at $27.20 couple of first pick winners which were to low to bet. No pic3 hits for me today at Rock so not a good day.

[melman]

Well the last race of the day at Rock R10 now in and makes for a better day with a first pick winner at $15.80.

[Zman179]

Thanks Mel. Actually, I didn't bet the exacta in the 7th but hit the 5-6-8 tri box that paid $499.60 (had it for a buck.) Would've had the late pick 3, but the 4 in the second leg, on a long lead, misbehaved. Like Meatloaf said, "One out of ten ain't bad." :lol:

Don't worry Mel, we'll get 'em on Friday. BTW, excellent call on the 2 in the last race. Noticed that you also picked two cold trifectas.

[melman]

R1 1-6-7
R2 7-8-2
R3 5-2-6
R4 4-5-7
R5 8-5-7
R6 7-5-2
R7 1-8-3
R8 3-7-4
R9 6-3-4
R10 3-7-5

[speedking]

Thanks a bunch, Melman, for your continued sharing of your hard work and excellent selections. With all the thoroughbred tracks, I don't follow the trotters too often, but with the late start at many tracks today I'll be following your numbers at the Rock.

BTW, I was very impressed by the quick respose from the director at the Rock. I wish some of the TB officials were half as responsive.

Thanks again. Good luck to all and have a great holiday weekend!

speedking

[melman]

I hope that John was able to get Mr Callahan hooked up with this forum. Nice of a track mangement type to get on board. Impressive and rare for such a thing to happen. If not for my health problems would be taking a trip up to the Rock just on that alone. Hope the Zman is able to get back up there and maybe meet up with him. Here wishing a long life to the Rock. :)

[John]

[QUOTE=melman]I hope that John was able to get Mr Callahan hooked up with this forum. ]

Ed Callahan, has this link and can read all post.He can register if he wishes or I can post for him.

Rock has a big day this Sunday. " Family carnival day" Pony rides for the kids and Clowns and other rides. I hope the weather is good.My Grandchildren had a ball last year.

Saturday, is free hat day.

[Zman179]

R1 1-4-5
R2 8-7-2
R3 1-5-2
R4 2-3-5
R5 5-8-2
R6 3-4-2
R7 7-4-3
R8 4-2-3
R9 6-1-3
R10 3-7-2

Good luck everybody!

[Zman179]

I hope that John was able to get Mr Callahan hooked up with this forum. Nice of a track mangement type to get on board. Impressive and rare for such a thing to happen. If not for my health problems would be taking a trip up to the Rock just on that alone. Hope the Zman is able to get back up there and maybe meet up with him. Here wishing a long life to the Rock. :)

I second that. If I do go, it'll be in late August towards the end of the meet.
Long live the Rock. :ThmbUp:

[melman]

BTW I should have mentioned the Rock does provide free on line video of there races at rockinghampark.com.

[molson721]

I started to play the Rock this year but the starts of races there are terrible. Check out Race 2 on 6/30. The starters get called and only 2 horses are near the gate as the race goes off. One horse broke stride shortly after getting close to the gate after being called and the other 5 horses were anywhere from 4-10 lengths behind as the race went off. I think this track has a no recall rule. I've seen it too many times at the Rock this year and theis race was the last straw. I WOULD RECOMMENT TO MAN Y PEOPLE THAT YOU AVOID THE ROCK. YOUR MONEY WILL BE LOST AT THE START BECAUSE THE STARTER COULD CARE LESS IF 7 OF 9 HORSES ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE GATE AT THE START. I'm sure a feew people will not blame the starter but how can 7 of 9 horses be nowhere near the start unless the starter doesn't care or the race is fixed! AVOID THE ROCK AT ALL COSTS

[Suff]

I started to play the Rock this year but the starts of races there are terrible. Check

Look on the brightside... the same day you quite playing The Rock, You got yourself another users name on Pace Advantage.....

ying & the yang type of thing.

[Zman179]

Mel,

Sorry to see that you were DQ'd out of the 7th race tri (hope you got the exacta for $70.20,) but you picked the 8th tri in a box ($294 for $2.)

Nice capping.

[speedking]

Nice work at the Rock so far, Melman. Great price in the 7th. Too bad we got DQ'ed out of the tri.

speedking

[Zman179]

I wound up having a rotten day. Fortunately, the second race super kept me afloat...lost it all back and won about $5. Just missed the last race tri and didn't play the exacta. :bang:

I'm sure that Mel did a whole lot better.

[melman]

Had the right numbers all day long but it was chalk day for the most part. I do not bet the tri's or super's I stick with win exacta and pic3/pic4 bets. Cashed on two win bets today out of nine bets. Paid $7.00 and $21.30 also had both of the pic3's but the payoff's were low what with all the chalk. First pic was $43 and the 2nd $176. The exacta's on races 7 and 8 were OK at $70 and $60. Hope you made some cash speedking.

[John]

Melman and Zman197

You guys do pretty good at ROCK. Would you like to help me in the up coming Harness races contest at the ROCK.

John

[speedking]

Had some fun and cashed out nicely, Melman. I'm not much of a chalk player, but I do love the P3's and nailed both. Thought the 8 horse in the 7th was nice value and banged the exacta out. Thanks again.

Zman, thanks for your help also. I'm sure you'll crush them tomorrow.

Best of luck and have a great holiday weekend!

speedking

[melman]

John

Let me know what days you need the picks for would be happy to toss some out for you.

Speedking

Glad to see you picked up some cash. Hope you have a great holiday weekend also.

Selections for Saturday at the Rock

R1 1-2-6
R2 3-2-5
R3 5-1-3
R4 8-7-2
R5 3-1-7
R6 9-6-7
R7 6-3-2
R8 7-8-2
R9 5-9-2
R10 6-4-2
R11 5-1-3

[Zman179]

R1 5-1-6
R2 3-5-1
R3 5-1
R4 7-2-5
R5 7-3-1
R6 1-4-3
R7 5-1-2
R8 8-6-5
R9 5-1-9
R10 6-5-2
R11 3-5-1

John: I've got some good priced horses amongst my choices that you can use for your contest.

Speed: Thanx for the comments. I've made some good money over the past week at the Rock, so at this point I'll be happy to break even like I did yesterday. ;)

[Zman179]

Wow, the only races where our pix are on different sides of the page are the 6th and 7th. Smart minds do think alike. :lol:

[John]

Melman and Zman

I will find out today when the contest is and the rules.

let you guys know later.

best of Luck today

John

[melman]

Had five on top winners yesterday but only one that I bet at a low $8.40 the others were even lower. :mad: Losing day as both pic3 bets went down and hit only one $44 exacta.

Sunday at Rock

R1 3-5-6
R2 4-2-5
R3 2-4-6
R4 6-7-5
R5 3-7-8
R6 3-2-4
R7 2-6-4
R8 2-6-8
R9 6-4-5
R10 9-4-5

[Suff]

Rock in a hard place

N.H. racetrack fighting for survival

By Mark Blaudschun, Globe Staff | July 2, 2006

SALEM, N.H. -- Ed Callahan has a plan. He's had it for a couple of years. He ``knows what makes sense, " knows what he would like to see.

As he ponders the future while sitting in the half-filled Turf Club on a sleepy, misty afternoon, Callahan, the vice president and general manager at Rockingham Park, is waiting for the running of the New Hampshire Sweepstakes, which used to be one of the marquee events at the Rock

http://www.boston.com/sports/other_sports/horse_racing/articles/2006/07/02/rock_in_a_hard_place/

[John]

Thanks Suff.
I feel that regardless of slots management has to do something to get younger people involved.

There is a learning curve to handicapping and once a person learns it. It is in their blood. They will be horseplayers for life.

Casino's have morning classes to teach people table games. Why not teach
young people the fundamentals of handicapping.

From time to time younger people will ask me something about the past performances.

They are willing to learn...

[headhawg]

Giving it a shot. My Rock picks for Sunday 7/2

R1 - #5 (3-1)
R2 - #3 (4-1)
R3 - #2 (2-1)
R4 - #6 (3-1)
R5 - #8 (3-1); 3-8 ex box if $12 or more
R6 - 2,4/2,3,4,7 ex
R7 - #5 (6-1)
R8 - 6,8/1,2,6,8 ex
R9 - #5 (3-1); 5-1a ex box
R10 - #6 (3-1)

Playable odds in parentheses. Good luck everyone.

[badbert]

with no big m to study I will take a stab at the rock

R1 #5
R2 #2
R3 #4
R4 #4
R5 #3
R6 #3
R7 #2
R8 #6
R9 #5
R10 #6

badbert :cool:

[Zman179]

Boy, I sit out one day and TWO people replace me! :lol:

Nice to see some action here on the harness board and increased action at Rockingham.

[headhawg]

Boy, I sit out one day and TWO people replace me! :lol:

Nice to see some action here on the harness board and increased action at Rockingham.Zman,

It would take way more than two people to replace you. :) And you're right about more posts here. It is good to see the harness section pick up. I mentioned to melman that I think the word is out on the picks here. There seems to be a lot of views and a lot of short prices on those top horses.

HH

[melman]

Pretty good day on Sunday at the Rock four on top winners and a small pic3 for $98.80.

R1 1-4-3
R2 7-4-2
R3 2-5-1
R4 7-5-3
R5 1-2-7
R6 4-5-2
R7 5-6-7
R8 8-3-5
R9 6-2-3
R10 9-2-4

[headhawg]

Independence Day Rock picks

Let's see if we can get some prices today and make some $$$ :) .

R1 - #6 (4-1); 1-6 ex box if $14 or more
R2 - #7 (3-1)

Pick 3 R3-R5 -- 2,5/5,6,7/1,2

R3 - #2 (3-1)
R4 - #5 (4-1);5,7/5,6,7,9 ex
R5 - pass
R6 - #2 (4-1) or #4 (5-1)

Pick 3 R7-R9 -- 4,5,7/3/2,3,6

R7 - 4,5/3,4,5,7 ex
R8 - #3 (3-1)
R9 - #6 (5-1)
R10 - #2 (3-1)

Good luck, and have a safe and happy 4th.

[Zman179]

R1 6-1-4
R2 5-2-6
R3 5-6-2
R4 4-1-7
R5 6-1-2
R6 4-2-5
R7 5-7-4
R8 3-8-1
R9 6-2-3
R10 7-6-2

[badbert]

race 8 #3 briley shea m/l 9-2

badbert :cool:

[Zman179]

9/2 ml on Briley Shea? I'll be surprised if she's even half of that.

[Zman179]

Boy, when your luck goes bad, it goes bad. I pick a dead cold $169 trifecta in the eighth race (3-8-1), and went broke in the 7th needing Lady Traveler to win (lost by a neck.)

[JimG]

:) And you're right about more posts here. It is good to see the harness section pick up. I mentioned to melman that I think the word is out on the picks here. There seems to be a lot of views and a lot of short prices on those top horses.

HH

More people in the harness section due to Melman's avatar? :jump::jump: Just a guess.:lol::lol:

[Zman179]

Only downloaded the pp's for the early and late doubles for Friday due to my work schedule.

R1 5-3-4
R2 7-2-3
R9 6-2-4
R10 7-1-8

[headhawg]

Rock Picks for Friday 7/7, first half

R1 -- #5 (3-1)
R2 -- pass
Pick 3 R3-R5 -- 1,5/3,6,7/7
R3 -- #1 (3-1)
R4 -- 3,7/2,3,6,7 ex
R5 -- #7 (3-1)

[headhawg]

Rock Picks 7/7, 2nd half

R6 -- #4 (4-1)
Pick 3 R7-R9 -- 2,6/2,3,4,7/6
R7 -- #6 (5-1)
R8 -- 3,7/2,3,4,7 ex
R9 -- #4 (6-1)
R10 -- #4 (3-1)

[melman]

Hawg

An amazing payout of that first pic3 you hit. Unreal for the prices.

John

All the best of trips for your horses in the start of the Rock's handicapping contest that starts today. They had to cancel the last two races yesterday at Rock due to a power failure so hope all is OK for today.

[John]

Hawg

They had to cancel the last two races yesterday at Rock due to a power failure so hope all is OK for today.


Yes Melman, Power has been restored, but Air condition is not as of 10.00 A.m.

[headhawg]

Rock Picks for Saturday 7/8

R1 -- #3 (6-1)
R2 -- #2 (3-1)
Pick 3 R3-5 -- 1,3/1,2/2,7
R3 -- pass
R4 -- #1 (7-2)
R5 -- #2 (3-1); 2,7/2,4,7,8 ex
R6 -- #8 (3-1)
Pick 3 R7-R9 -- 5/1,3,8/1,5
R7 -- #5 (3-1)
R8 -- #8 (3-1); 1,8/1,3,4,8 ex
R9 -- #5 (3-1)
R10 -- #7 (3-1)

Seems like a very decent card today. Best of luck.

[melman]

All the best of trips for your horses on Saturday in the final round of the Rock's handicapping contest. I see they have the short select list of people that are in the finals and you only have to beat out nineteen players. :jump: Let's bring home the bacon Mr John. :) :D

[headhawg]

Best of luck John. Go get 'em!

[John]

Let's bring home the bacon Mr John. :) :D

Melman

It was iIs was a pleasure to talk with you last night. You certainly are very informative on Handicapping and have some great story's to tell. I enjoyed it all

Indeed a delight to talk with Melman. A real nice gentleman. :jump:

John

[John]

Let's bring home the bacon Mr John. :) :D

Melman

It was a pleasure to talk with you last night. You certainly are very informative on Handicapping and have some great story's to tell. I enjoyed it all

Indeed a delight to talk with Melman. A real nice gentleman. :jump:

John

[melman]

John I remember telling you last night that I would sent you a nice sized check if only you would post something good about me. :jump: :lol: Think you went a little overboard. :jump: Will have to see if I can scrape up some cash to increase that check size. :lol: :

[John]

John I remember telling you last night that I would sent you a nice sized check if only you would post something good about me. :jump: :lol: Think you went a little overboard. :jump: Will have to see if I can scrape up some cash to increase that check size. :lol: :


Yeah I know.... check is in the mail. But you know how the mail is these days. :)

[Charlie]

I won that contest at Rock 2 years ago. Last year although in the finals didn't win. This year, I finished 21st, just $20.00 behind the 20th person. It's a nice contest thats run by Mr Murphy.

[John]

Charlie, Funny thing, I was invited to the buffet that year. I most likely talked to you. Larry Murphy does a good job running the contest.

Do you live in the area ?

John

[headhawg]

Rock Early Picks 7/16

R1 -- #5 (4-1); 5,7/2,5,7,8 ex
R2 -- 5,7/3,5,6,7 ex
R3 -- #6 (3-1)

On the fence with this Pick 3 (seems chalky) but here it is anyway:
R3-R5 4,6/5,8/1

[headhawg]

Rock Picks 7/16 -- the rest

R4 -- #5 (3-1)
R5 -- pass
R6 -- #8 (3-1)
R7 -- #1 (5-2)
R8 -- pass
R9 -- pass
R10 -- #7 (3-1); 7,8/1,6,7,8 ex