Belmont Stakes output in your software

[kitts]

I'll start with the automatic handicapping output of All-In-One:

Well, I could not "manage attachments" and cut and paste gives poor format so I'll just give you the top five and the "Fair Odds" if any:

9 Bluegrass Cat 5/1
2 Sunriver 5/1
4 Bob and John
5 High Finance
7 Deputy Glitters

What do ya' know, I did upload the text file!

[JimG]

WorkHorsePro2 output for the big race:

9 Bluegrass Cat
4 Bob and John
2 Sunriver
11 Steppenwolfer
5 High Finance


Jim

[Richard]

Kitts,
I guess we haven't used the same pacelines.My AIO output goes:
Bluegrass Cat 5/1
Deputy Glitters 5/1
Bob and John 5/1
High Finance 6/1
My input was manual.

[wolsons]

#8 Jazil (4-1)
#11 Steppenwolfer (5-1)
#2 Sunriver (8-1)
#4 Bob and John (9-1)

Good luck to all!



Steve

[Ponyplayr]

I also use AIOV6..Auto Auto

=================================BETTING LINE==================================
Fair Bet WP WPS ML DSLR Comments
SC Horse name Odds Odds Odds Odds Odds
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2 Sunriver 3/1 4/1 9/1 19/1 4/1 21 3 wide, prevailed
5 High Finance 4/1 5/1 12/1 25/1 12/1 37 in control from start
9 Bluegrass Cat 5/1 7/1 17/1 30/1 3/1 35 angled 4w lane,2nbest
4 Bob and John 5/1 35 bpd brk, 5wd into lane
7 Deputy Glitters 15/1 35 held safe margin
11 Steppenwolfer 9/2 35 bmp start,forced in,6w
8 Jazil 10/1 35 swerve in start,empty
3 Hemingway's Key 15/1 21 rail,angled 3/16
12 Sacred Light 15/1 35 inside trip,all out
6 Oh So Awesome 20/1 22 good finish inside
10 Double Galore 30/1 22 saved ground to lane
1 Platinum Couple 30/1 21 4 wide move, gamely
Pace Graph
===============================SPEED/PACE SUMMARY===============================
Race Type : Orderly Average NTL: 2.1
--Projected Times-- --Pace Constructs-- -UPRs-
P# Horse PT 1C 2C FC AT BT CT LF 2C FC
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2 Sunriver EP 48.61 201.70 226.70 194.79 219.78 171.69 24.99 64 65
5 High Finance EP 48.14 201.33 226.37 194.53 219.56 171.40 25.03 64 65
9 Bluegrass Ca EP 47.58 202.24 228.66 196.90 223.31 175.07 26.41 64 65
4 Bob and John E 49.14 202.23 228.70 195.32 221.79 175.16 26.46 64 65
7 Deputy Glitt E 49.85 201.86 225.10 193.87 217.11 168.33 23.23 64 65
11 Steppenwolfe EPS 48.03 202.69 229.06 197.35 223.71 175.42 26.36 64 65
8 Jazil PS 49.08 203.39 229.25 197.70 223.56 175.12 25.86 64 65
3 Hemingway's EP 49.98 203.25 228.70 196.52 221.96 174.14 25.44 64 65
12 Sacred Light E 49.64 203.58 229.25 197.52 223.19 174.91 25.66 64 65
6 Oh So Awesom U 50.46 203.69 228.07 196.93 221.30 172.45 24.37 64 65
10 Double Galor E 48.91 203.33 231.11 197.75 225.53 178.88 27.77 64 66
1 Platinum Cou PS 49.63 204.02 230.13 198.41 224.52 176.23 26.10 64 66
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Pars: 48.31 201.89 228.00 195.47 221.58 174.10 26.10 64 65

[kitts]

Richard-

I did not use the same pacelines, I just did automatic. But look at ponyplayr using automatic with different output. I rarely play Belmont so my track models are a bit anemic.

[Ponyplayr]

Richard-

I did not use the same pacelines, I just did automatic. But look at ponyplayr using automatic with different output. I rarely play Belmont so my track models are a bit anemic.Strange..I downloaded a 30 day track model then the Data Files. settings are default.

[bucktron]

B U C K T R O N P A C E S I M U L A T O R


1 1/2M [Dirt] 2:24:00 STAKES. Belmont Stakes. Grade 1.Purse $1,000,000. FOR THREE YEAR OLDS.
Exacta, Trifecta, Superfecta, Pick 3 Races (11-13), Daily Double Wagers



TODAY'S DATE:6/10/2006 DISTANCE :1 1/2 PURSE VALUE ---- :1,000,000
TRACK ----- :BEL RACE NUMBER:11 CLASS DESCRIPTION:Belmont Stakes 1000k

........ NAME ..........1ST* 2ST* 3ND* NORM (N) (FM) [RD] RACE SHAPE FIGS DSLR M/L
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[2]Sunriver 189 189* 119* 89* 10 104 100* | 90 = 15 13 29 | 21 4-1
[6]Oh So Awesome 152 152* 72* 87* -7 86 93 |103 = 0 1 62 | 22 20-1
[4]Bob and John 142 142* 49 85* 12 7 97* |112 = 26 42 13 | 35 5-1
[9]Bluegrass Cat 136 136* 120* 79 16 137 99* |100 = 14 33 20 | 35 3-1
[12]Sacred Light 67 67 57 81* -4 71 91 | 57 = 3 5 16 | 35 15-1
[5]High Finance 61 61 64* 77 -6 92 94 | 97 = 21 15 27 | 37 12-1
[7]Deputy Glitters 58 58 63 75 4 81 92 | 93 = 25 27 9 | 35 15-1
[3]Hemingway's Key 57 57 60 79 2 76 94 | 47 = 8 0 6 | 21 15-1
[8]Jazil 55 55 62 80 6 18 94 | 55 = 6 1 16 | 35 10-1
[11]Steppenwolfer 32 32 68* 64 12 73 95 | 66 = 9 17 8 | 35 9/2
[1]Platinum Couple 30 6 48 75 -4 61 99* | 40 = 8 0 0 | 21 30-1
[10]Double Galore 30 13 52 74 -16 81 -5 | 73 = 22 13 8 | 22 30-1
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Estimated L.B. Call 1&2&3&Finish Average Average Running
Call-1 Call-2 Call-3 Finish Earnings Purse Value Pattern
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[2]Sunriver 5.95 7.71 2.86 .00 40,200 123,692 (S)Runner
[6]Oh So Awesome 7.68 5.65 2.23 .80 4,752 27,718 (M)Runner
[4]Bob and John .00 .00 .00 2.00 68,007 238,621 (M)Runner
[9]Bluegrass Cat 1.18 4.44 3.74 5.02 95,160 276,327 (M)Runner
[12]Sacred Light 6.28 6.90 4.55 4.20 21,191 120,113 (M)Runner
[5]High Finance .62 5.96 4.93 5.90 15,029 44,997 (S)Runner
[7]Deputy Glitters .94 4.18 4.56 6.93 25,694 139,829 (S)Runner
[3]Hemingway's Key 8.41 12.66 7.80 4.93 22,785 123,165 (M)Runner
[8]Jazil 9.65 12.59 7.54 4.48 38,888 215,191 (M)Runner
[11]Steppenwolfer 9.00 14.96 12.80 12.64 62,391 227,336 (M)Runner
[1]Platinum Couple 5.91 12.73 8.92 7.10 12,546 75,350 (S)Runner
[10]Double Galore .11 6.08 5.92 7.76 35,968 49,961 (M)Runner
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Sire Dam DS J T B O Cum (A1) (1st) (Odds1) (A2) (2nd) (Odds2) (A3) (3rd) (Odd3)
[1 ] 511 508 485 492 495 370 368 1498 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
[2 ] 503 552 567 506 523 370 368 1532 12 44.8 2.5 3 28.9 2.9 1 24.1 4.5
[3 ] 499 482 469 495 512 488 528 1506 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
[4 ] 509 544 506 474 531 370 523 1514 2 40.8 2.1 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
[5 ] 451 300 496 500 510 370 481 1461 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
[6 ] 509 300 375 509 512 370 368 1530 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
[7 ] 503 531 458 511 547 370 368 1561 2 41.0 2.5 0 .0 .0 2 24.5 4.7
[8 ] 509 526 506 492 528 530 540 1529 1 46.3 1.8 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
[9 ] 518 531 375 521 523 370 368 1562 10 42.1 2.5 2 29.5 4.2 2 25.3 3.4
[10] 515 300 375 501 503 537 545 1519 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
[11] 451 549 490 511 510 370 368 1472 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
[12] 499 300 375 504 514 370 368 1517 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0 0 .0 .0
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.......... N A M E ...................(WT)PACE-1....LB#1...PACE-2...LB#2.EPACE..PACE-3.LB#3.(TOTAL)...(P-VALUE)
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1:[1]Platinum Couple PIM* 1.31(D)126 79.6 8.5 88.8 13.5 (168) 99.0 22.5 67.4 Preaknes 1000k-G1
M/L:30-1 W=235 T=200 AQU 1.8 (D)123 77.4 19.5 90.1 18.5 (168) 83.7 10.5 51.2 WoodMem 750k-G1
Joc:Espinoza J L AQU 1 (D)116 84.3 0.2 76.7 0.2 (161) 84.0 1.8 44.9 AlwOC 46000n2x
AQU 1.16(D)118 87.1 10.5 87.0 14.0 (174) 83.3 14.8 57.4 Whirlaway 71k
AQU 1.7 (D)118 96.0 4.5 82.1 10.0 (178) 72.3 15.5 50.4 CountFleet 75k
AQU 1.16(D)116 80.8 3.3 85.7 2.5 (167) 90.7 0.0 57.3 DamonRunyn 85k
AQU 1 (D)120 81.4 1.5 87.1 0.2 (168) 90.0 0.0 58.5 Md Sp Wt
BEL 1 (D)115 81.3 13.0 81.9 20.0 (163) 78.4 20.3 41.6 SleepyHllo 100k
BEL 6 (D)119 85.7 4.3 88.5 7.0 (174) 93.3 0.5 67.5 Md Sp Wt
BEL 6 (D)119 80.1 13.5 91.0 7.0 (171) 91.4 5.8 62.5 Md Sp Wt
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
2:[2]Sunriver BEL 1.8 (D)116 79.5 2.8 90.5 3.0 (170) 107.0 0.0 77.0 PeterPan 200k-G2
M/L:4-1 W=206 T=209 GP 1.8 (D)122 80.6 4.5 94.9 3.0 (175) 95.1 3.5 70.6 FlaDerby 1000k-G1
Joc:Bejarano R GP 1.8 (D)118 82.5 0.2 95.3 0.2 (178) 97.3 0.0 75.0 Alw 33000n1x
GP 1.8 (D)118 85.8 5.0 85.9 11.5 (172) 89.3 9.3 61.1 HolyBull 150k-G3
GP 1.8 (D)118 86.8 2.5 93.5 1.5 (180) 92.2 0.8 72.5 Alw 33000n1x
AQU 1.8 (D)120 84.8 1.5 90.5 1.5 (175) 85.1 0.0 60.4 Md Sp Wt
BEL 6.5 (D)119 89.0 2.5 89.2 1.5 (178) 82.0 5.3 60.3 Md Sp Wt
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
3:[3]Hemingway's Key PIM* 1.31(D)126 77.4 11.0 91.5 13.0 (169) 110.0 11.3 78.9 Preaknes 1000k-G1
M/L:15-1 W=226 T=166 KEE 1.16(D)117 86.1 4.0 86.3 6.3 (172) 77.6 9.0 50.0 Lexingtn 325k-G2
Joc:Rose J TP 1.8 (D)121 79.4 4.5 89.2 5.0 (169) 76.5 8.5 45.1 LanesEnd 500k-G2
GP 1.8 (D)116 75.1 4.0 92.3 4.5 (167) 96.3 7.3 63.7 FntnOYth 300k-G2
GP 1.8 (D)116 85.8 5.0 88.3 9.0 (174) 79.6 16.8 53.7 HolyBull 150k-G3
CRC 1 (D)117 59.5 1.0 76.5 3.0 (136) 89.5 0.0 25.6 Alw 24000n1x
CD 7 (D)120 87.7 1.3 89.0 2.3 (177) 83.0 0.0 59.7 Md Sp Wt
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
4:[4]Bob and John CD 1.4 (D)126 86.0 5.5 89.2 8.3 (175) 67.5 31.3 42.7 KyDerby 2213k-G1
M/L:5-1 W=254 T=211 AQU 1.8 (D)123 93.8 1.5 90.8 0.5 (185) 77.6 0.0 62.2 WoodMem 750k-G1
Joc:Gomez G K SA 1.16(D)122 91.0 2.3 97.1 1.5 (188) 90.7 2.5 78.8 SnFelipe 250k-G2
SA 1.8 (D)120 77.5 0.2 96.9 0.2 (174) 93.8 0.0 68.3 Sham 103k-G3
SA 1.16(D)118 85.2 0.2 93.3 0.0 (179) 94.0 0.0 72.6 Alw 52800n1x
HOL 1.16(D)121 83.4 3.5 93.0 3.5 (176) 86.1 5.0 62.6 HolFut 411k-G1
HOL 1.16(D)118 81.2 0.2 88.7 0.0 (170) 93.3 0.0 63.2 RealQuiet 100k
SA 1 (D)120 90.2 4.0 91.1 2.5 (181) 87.3 4.0 68.6 Alw 47020n1x
DMR 1 (D)119 86.6 3.0 87.9 0.0 (175) 85.0 0.0 59.6 Md Sp Wt
DMR 6 (D)120 86.6 4.8 84.1 8.5 (171) 89.7 2.5 60.4 Md Sp Wt
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
5:[5]High Finance BEL 1 (D)116 83.3 0.0 92.4 0.0 (176) 98.1 0.0 73.8 Alw 46000n1x
M/L:12-1 W=229 T=174 KEE 7 (D)120 94.1 1.0 90.5 1.5 (185) 95.3 0.0 79.8 Md Sp Wt
Joc:Coa E GP 1 (D)122 67.6 1.5 83.1 4.0 (151) 80.5 7.8 31.2 Md Sp Wt
GP 6.5 (D)122 94.1 0.2 90.3 0.0 (184) 75.0 6.5 59.3 Md Sp Wt
GP 7 (D)122 89.9 0.5 86.5 0.2 (176) 77.3 0.8 53.7 Md Sp Wt
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
6:[6]Oh So Awesome BEL 1.16(D)118 80.1 8.0 95.5 4.0 (176) 94.8 3.5 70.4 MatchHatch 72k
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
7:[7]Deputy Glitters CD 1.4 (D)126 82.6 9.3 94.6 5.8 (177) 81.7 14.0 59.0 KyDerby 2213k-G1
M/L:15-1 W=244 T=199 AQU 1.8 (D)123 89.7 6.0 89.5 6.0 (179) 67.9 15.0 47.0 WoodMem 750k-G1
Joc:Prado E S TAM 1.16(D)116 83.7 1.0 94.0 1.5 (178) 98.2 0.0 75.9 TampaDby 250k-G3
TAM 1.16(D)116 90.8 0.5 91.0 0.5 (182) 91.2 1.3 73.0 SamFDavis 121k
GP 1 (D)118 69.1 3.5 84.9 4.3 (154) 74.8 9.3 28.7 Alw 33000n1x
AQU 6 (D)116 96.3 0.5 93.3 1.3 (190) 82.4 5.8 72.0 Huntington 81k
BEL 1 (D)122 89.3 13.5 82.4 20.0 (172) 71.3 32.3 43.0 Champagn 500k-G1
SAR 6 (D)120 93.8 0.0 91.8 0.0 (186) 90.8 0.0 76.5 Md 65000
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
8:[8]Jazil CD 1.4 (D)126 80.8 11.3 93.5 8.8 (174) 88.8 9.5 63.1 KyDerby 2213k-G1
M/L:10-1 W=254 T=211 AQU 1.8 (D)123 76.9 20.0 90.6 18.5 (168) 92.4 1.5 59.9 WoodMem 750k-G1
Joc:Jara F GP 1.8 (D)116 73.8 5.5 92.4 5.8 (166) 97.5 7.3 63.7 FntnOYth 300k-G2
GP 1.8 (D)120 77.4 2.5 93.6 2.0 (171) 97.1 0.8 68.1 Alw 33000n1x
AQU 1.16(D)120 90.3 3.0 80.0 6.5 (170) 88.6 0.0 58.9 Md Sp Wt
AQU 7 (D)120 79.1 18.0 91.9 16.0 (171) 94.5 0.1 65.5 Md Sp Wt
BEL 5.5 (D)119 78.3 13.5 92.9 14.3 (171) 99.4 15.8 70.6 Md Sp Wt
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
9:[9]Bluegrass Cat CD 1.4 (D)126 87.3 4.0 92.4 3.0 (180) 86.3 6.5 66.1 KyDerby 2213k-G1
M/L:3-1 W=248 T=227 KEE 1.8 (D)123 87.1 7.0 86.6 10.5 (174) 72.6 21.3 46.3 BlueGras 750k-G1
Joc:Velazquez J R TAM 1.16(D)122 83.2 1.5 94.0 2.0 (177) 96.5 2.0 73.7 TampaDby 250k-G3
TAM 1.16(D)122 90.8 0.5 91.0 0.5 (182) 92.4 0.0 74.2 SamFDavis 121k
AQU 1.8 (D)120 80.0 0.0 89.3 0.0 (169) 85.0 0.0 54.3 Remsen 200k-G2
BEL 1 (D)116 90.9 1.5 96.1 0.5 (187) 88.8 0.0 75.9 Nashua 113k-G3
BEL 7 (D)119 91.1 0.0 90.3 0.0 (181) 96.1 0.0 77.5 Md Sp Wt
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10:[10]Double Galore HOL 1.16(D)116 86.7 0.2 87.1 0.2 (174) 75.9 0.0 49.7 Md Sp Wt
M/L:30-1 W=230 T=233 HOL 1.16(D)116 86.0 1.5 86.4 2.0 (172) 78.5 4.0 50.9 Md Sp Wt
Joc:Luzzi M J SA 1 (D)121 86.4 0.0 86.4 0.0 (173) 85.5 3.3 58.3 Md Sp Wt
SA 6 (D)121 89.6 2.3 89.1 4.0 (179) 87.6 9.0 66.2 Md Sp Wt
SA 6.5 (D)120 92.1 2.0 90.1 4.0 (182) 72.3 17.0 54.5 Md Sp Wt
--------------------------------------[126]-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
11:[11]Steppenwolfer CD 1.4 (D)126 85.3 6.3 92.6 5.0 (178) 86.3 8.5 64.1 KyDerby 2213k-G1
M/L:9/2 W=240 T=208 OP 1.8 (D)118 75.4 10.0 90.6 6.0 (166) 72.2 2.8 38.3 ArkDerby 1000k-G2
Joc:Albarado R OP 1.16(D)118 82.4 1.8 85.2 2.5 (168) 87.4 3.3 55.0 Rebel 300k-G3
OP 1 (D)117 76.1 4.0 84.5 1.0 (161) 80.1 0.8 40.7 Southwest 250k
OP 1 (D)121 77.1 1.5 82.0 2.0 (159) 82.3 0.0 41.4 Alw 34000n2x
LAD 1.16(D)119 81.7 3.5 87.5 3.0 (169) 93.9 0.0 63.1 AlwOC 49200n1x
LAD 1.16(D)122 82.1 6.5 93.2 3.5 (175) 95.9 5.0 71.2 AlwOC 41000n1x
AQU 7 (D)120 90.3 5.0 93.7 1.0 (184) 81.6 0.0 65.6 Md Sp Wt
BEL 6 (T)118 110.0 4.0 98.6 9.3 (209) 60.0 5.3 68.6 Md Sp Wt
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12:[12]Sacred Light CD 1.16(D)113 82.8 5.3 89.0 2.3 (172) 86.7 1.3 58.5 Alw 54000n1x
M/L:15-1 W=222 T=207 SA 1.8 (D)122 80.8 4.5 92.6 6.0 (173) 83.1 19.0 56.5 SADerby 750k-G1
Joc:Espinoza V SA 1.16(D)115 88.1 4.0 93.4 3.5 (182) 92.0 1.8 73.5 StCtlina 200k-G2
SA 1.8 (D)118 76.3 1.5 95.5 3.0 (172) 90.6 6.0 62.5 Sham 103k-G3
SA 1.16(D)118 77.1 9.0 94.3 7.5 (171) 98.2 3.0 69.6 Alw 52800n1x
DMR 1 (D)119 86.9 1.0 87.3 0.5 (174) 90.5 0.2 64.7 Md Sp Wt
HOL 5.5 (D)120 81.6 13.5 85.1 19.0 (167) 94.9 14.3 61.6 Md Sp Wt
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[ ] = Indicates that a Pace/Trainer Pattern has been found that could produce a Longshot Winner in the upcoming Race
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[Donnie]

Attached is my personal db output, as well as the Figs printout for the race from HTR2! Best of Luck!

[Dave Schwartz]

These are my contenders. The probabilities and $Nets will change as the tote odds change.


BEL11 (o:Line$) Val=0) Bet Int=12 Min=+ 5:40:45
Prg Horse Cont Odds Prob $Net Opt% Fair Odds
9 Bluegrass Cat C 3 27.6 $2.21 3.5 3
11 Steppenwolfer C 9/2 18.1 $1.99 -0.1 5
2 Sunriver C 4 13.3 $1.33 -8.4 7
12 Sacred Light C 15 3.6 $1.16 -2.8 30

[Jeff P]

JCapper - 2006 Belmont (before scratches)

Top 5 ranked by JRating:
__________________________________________
PP Name AProbOL ML
__________________________________________
#5 HIGH FINANCE 5-1 12-1
#9 BLUEGRASS CAT 5-1 3-1
#7 DEPUTY GLITTERS 13-1 15-1
#4 BOB AND JOHN 10-1 5-1
#2 SUNRIVER 9-1 4-1
__________________________________________

How I think the race will unfold:
http://www.jcapper.ajthau.com/index.php?showtopic=572

Good Luck to All


-jp

.

[kitts]

Ponyplayr-

In the past I noticed that when one handicapped (or auto-capped) races at a track and did auto-update, the models could be different than the player like myself who normally only plays a few races/tracks but always downloads the 30 day models. Alhtough I like your Belmont line better than mine :o)

[betovernetcapper]

Capper line is

Bob and John 6-5
Sun River 7-2
Sacred Light 6-1

[NoDayJob]

:lol: 6 - 2, 7, 9, 11 :lol:

Not so off the wall...

9 - 2, 7, 11

[Ponyplayr]

:lol: 6 - 2, 7, 9, 11 :lol:

Not so off the wall...

9 - 2, 7, 11
I'm going with 9-2 exata

9-2-8/12 tri
9-2-8/12-8/12 super

[JimG]

#8 Jazil (4-1)
#11 Steppenwolfer (5-1)
#2 Sunriver (8-1)
#4 Bob and John (9-1)

Good luck to all!



Steve

Steve,

Nice top pick on Jazil.

Jim

[wolsons]

Thanks Jim

[NoDayJob]

#8 Jazil (4-1) Steve

Excellent!!!!!!!!!!

[Niko]

Nice time to make your prescense again Wolsons! Great job. Did you get Jazil from the top black box or consensus pick?

[wolsons]

Thanks Niko - it was the consensus top choice, not enough of a database sample for a useful Black Box

[Jeff P]

Steve,

Good work and Congrats.



-jp
.

[wolsons]

Thank you, Jeff

[Speed Figure]

V6 must be very different from V5. I know a guy that uses V5 and that horse was listed at 32/1 on that program.

[Ponyplayr]

V6 must be very different from V5. I know a guy that uses V5 and that horse was listed at 32/1 on that program.What version of V5 is he using? I have an old dos V5 that I no longer use. The pars and models are way out of date. could explain it.

[Speed Figure]

What version of V5 is he using? I have an old dos V5 that I no longer use. The pars and models are way out of date. could explain it.You must be talking about ALL-IN-ONE, I'm talking about POL. Steve, said "I'm using the Money Index option in V6.0 to create the line - this was not available in V5.0, and can result in markedly different lines (and we feel stronger lines) than you would get from using the Impact Value option."

[Suff]

Are there more developers that'll show thier output?

PA says it don't mean didly squat, but I like to look and see.

Especially the readouts, or screen shots.

I find them intersting is all.

[Ponyplayr]

You must be talking about ALL-IN-ONE, I'm talking about POL. Steve, said "I'm using the Money Index option in V6.0 to create the line - this was not available in V5.0, and can result in markedly different lines (and we feel stronger lines) than you would get from using the Impact Value option."OK ...my mistake

[tboles]

Suff asked:
Are there more developers that'll show thier output?
PA says it don't mean didly squat, but I like to look and see.
Especially the readouts, or screen shots.



Here is Thorostats report for the Belmont:

http://static.flickr.com/76/166165855_9c21d1528d_o.jpg

[46zilzal]

amazing that there was not a e/p in that race.

[cj]

Maybe according to how your software defines running styles. I had 3 Es and 5 EPs.

[46zilzal]

Always chuckle when I hear about a horse running even sustained fractions in a route and someone is calling it's style EARLY. what a hoot.

[shanta]

Maybe according to how your software defines running styles. I had 3 Es and 5 EPs.

Cj,
I had:
4 - E/p
5 - E
9 - E/p
10 - E/Ep
Rich

[cj]

Always chuckle when I hear about a horse running even sustained fractions in a route and someone is calling it's style EARLY. what a hoot.

That is because your software uses the EPS designations differently than nearly every other program using them. I'm not saying either is right or wrong, as it only matters if the individual using them knows what they mean.

[46zilzal]

That is because your software uses the EPS designations differently than nearly every other program using them. I'm not saying either is right or wrong, as it only matters if the individual using them knows what they mean.
of course. I think the reality, and I noticed thanks to your input, is that they are somwhere in between the two.