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karlskorner
05-01-2006, 09:10 AM
Signs I have see sofar for the ILLEGALS demostrations in Miami today

"Revolution is the Solution"

"If you think I'm "illegal" because I'm a Mexican learn the true history because I'm in my HOMELAND"

Many others are in Spanish and I don't translate that well. Huston we have a problem.

Tom
05-01-2006, 10:39 AM
They are an invading army and need to be dealt with in that manner.

I heard a good one today - on Fox News, they were interviewing yet another in an endless line of hispanic activists ( I always thought that was what Cayan Pepper was!) and he said, "Most of the illegals her are human beings!"
See, they already have thier own Geroge Bush!:eek:

karlskorner
05-01-2006, 10:53 AM
Fortunately my 10 children didn't have to learn Spanish and they all reached professional status. Unfortunately my 14 grandchildren are "dead in the water" if they don't learn Spanish. You can't deal with low or mid level people in government or other business affairs in South Florida without running into Spanish speaking people, who would rather converse in Spanish than English. I imagine this is so in Southern Calif. and all the border states along Mexico.

Snag
05-01-2006, 11:13 AM
Fortunately my 10 children didn't have to learn Spanish and they all reached professional status. Unfortunately my 14 grandchildren are "dead in the water" if they don't learn Spanish. You can't deal with low or mid level people in government or other business affairs in South Florida without running into Spanish speaking people, who would rather converse in Spanish than English. I imagine this is so in Southern Calif. and all the border states along Mexico.

It's getting harder to order at Micky D's, Wendy's, Burger King, etc. without speaking Spanglish. If you notice, they don't repeat your order any more and they don't count out your change either. If you want to test their English, just order a Big Mack at Burger King. Be ready to get what you ask for.....:lol: .

Tom
05-01-2006, 11:14 AM
How about this for a phone message:

" You have reached XXX Industires. For english, press 1, for Spainish, GO HOME. WE SPEAK ENGLISH HERE"

karlskorner
05-01-2006, 11:50 AM
The problem is they consider themselves " home ", they were here before the rest of us came to S. Florida and south west America. We pushed them back into the Mexico and the rest of South America, now it's their turn. Between the Indians ( we treated them badly ) and their casinos and Spanish speaking people they are taking back what they rightlfully believe was theirs to begin with.

Ponyplayr
05-01-2006, 12:01 PM
The problem is they consider themselves " home ", they were here before the rest of us came to S. Florida and south west America. We pushed them back into the Mexico and the rest of South America, now it's their turn. Between the Indians ( we treated them badly ) and their casinos and Spanish speaking people they are taking back what they rightlfully believe was theirs to begin with.OK..Then they need to come to terms with the reality of the situation. The land is ours..we stole it fair and square! And we wont give it back! Go Home!

Tom
05-01-2006, 12:02 PM
Then let them come here legally. I have no issue with leal immigration as long as: they become citizens, abandone mexiccan citizenship, swear loyalty oaths, learn and speak English, and have jobs.
Anything less than that and they are an invading army - to be dealt with. They have had the land once, but WE developed it and WE created the systems that they leech. WE have the rightful claims today. The Spainish explorers themselves stole the land, so that it was once ours argument has no meaning to me. Everyone stole it from someone at sometime. I am willing to fight to prevent it this time.

And the lie continues at all levels - we cannot pass a law to make them felons if they are alreay here. You cannot pass a law retroactivley - we can only make new illegal felons.

Snag
05-01-2006, 12:40 PM
The problem is they consider themselves " home ", they were here before the rest of us came to S. Florida and south west America. We pushed them back into the Mexico and the rest of South America, now it's their turn. Between the Indians ( we treated them badly ) and their casinos and Spanish speaking people they are taking back what they rightlfully believe was theirs to begin with.

If I remember right, were there not treaties that defined borders and such after a war was fought (in both cases)? What "rights" are there to take back?

kenwoodallpromos
05-01-2006, 01:16 PM
According to the official US Border Patrol website, until Pancho Villa (an alias) began crossing the border to raid the US and kill Americans, there was no need to stop anyone crossing the border- immigration only concerned people from oversees, who I supposed it was assumed were here to stay, others from Canada and Mexico to work and go back.
Well, between the drugs and terrorists, we still need to know who is coming across.
The father of a C-Span caller this morning whose whole family is illegal is a truck driver- you know, a job nobody wants. How many crimes is he committing. Another was a tile setter, another unwanted job.

CryingForTheHorses
05-01-2006, 02:21 PM
Fortunately my 10 children didn't have to learn Spanish and they all reached professional status. Unfortunately my 14 grandchildren are "dead in the water" if they don't learn Spanish. You can't deal with low or mid level people in government or other business affairs in South Florida without running into Spanish speaking people, who would rather converse in Spanish than English. I imagine this is so in Southern Calif. and all the border states along Mexico.

My Gawd Karl...10 kids!!...You STUD!!!!

toetoe
05-01-2006, 02:39 PM
If it's your homeland, you ignorant pawn, you should be speaking Quechua or some Aztec dialect, not SPANISH! The Spaniards were better imperialists than the English? God, I wish I were in a handicapping contest against that logic. :bang:

Tom
05-01-2006, 03:16 PM
Remeber the Alamo.....lock and load.
This is war.

karlskorner
05-01-2006, 06:12 PM
There were 100's of treaties signed with the Indian nations and our government never lived up to one of them. But the Indians have long memories, they built casinos and going to take care of their own. Our local Seminole Tribe gives each family $35,000.00 per year and a new car and they don't pay one penny towards taxes for State or Federal government

hurrikane
05-02-2006, 07:46 AM
Karl,

see any signs that say 'Representation Without Taxation' ?

That's pretty much it in a nutshell

Tom
05-02-2006, 08:16 AM
But the bottom line is representation without citizenship.
I heard that argument made by many so-called hispanic spoksepeople - it is hirlaious.

freeneasy
05-02-2006, 08:51 PM
i felt a lot lot safer driving around yesterday then i ever have cause i knew if i got hit by another motorist that at least they would be carrying auto insurence :D

freeneasy
05-02-2006, 09:04 PM
make a great big giant net, chopper it in, surround everybody then drop it over the entire rally see, and that way they would have caught the whole frigg'n bunch of em in one sweep and from there then its just a matter of throwing their ass's in a holding cell and shipping the whole mangy gang of em back to where they came from. could have been the biggest bust in history

freeneasy
05-02-2006, 10:12 PM
that 90% of the truck drivers that hall those thousands of containers out of there each day did not show up for work meaning
that at least 80 to 85% of those drivers were more then likely illeagal mexicans meaning
that once upon a time all those haulers jobs, trucking those containers out of the long beach harbor, were once held by american citizens meaning
that all of these mexican illegals pushed all these american truckers out of all those hauling jobs and did it by way of hauling those containers out of the harbor at a cost of almost 50% less then what the americans were affordibly able to haul those same containers out of there for meaning
if you think you job, your occupation, your entire means of support is safely tucked away within the protecting arms of your dedicated elected officeials who are sworn to uphold the security of your future, then my dumb little friend, you are going to wake up one day and find that you may have to change your name to pedro because pedro himself and all his millions and millions and millions of friends are more then willing to take and steal your job at such a cut throat rate that your not even going to know what in the hell you just now got hit with meaning
if these mexican illegals can put these americans out of those thousands of hauling jobs at the long beach harbor, and do it in front of the whole united states, they sure as hell can come in to your place of work and do it to you meaning
it is entirely possible that whoever you work for is never going to give you a raise in order to make it so as you are forced to quit, in order to make it so as he can give your job to pedro, in order to make it so as he can hire mr pedro to come work for him at a lower wadge meaning
that if something like this should happen to you, my fine feathered friend, then you better have one heck of a fine feathered backup plan to keep your financial situaton in tact meaning
pedro and his boss, your ex boss is not concerned that you have now had your throat cut and cant stop the bleeding or might not be able to stop the bleeding in time to recover meaning
i could go on just about adinfiniteum but i guess you can get the jist of it

freeneasy
05-02-2006, 11:39 PM
prostitution in mexico is so unbelievibly leagal that it'd make your head spin off
the leagal age for a women to prostitute herself in mexico is 13. yeah 13. i mean statutory rape applies only to kids under the age of 13. can you believe that?
ever notice on the news how your starting to see that more and more of these rapes, child kidnappings, attempted child kidnappings, child molestations, and such things like that, family related murders where a man kills his wife and all 4 of his children, are being done by these mexican illeagals who were already rapist and child molesterers in there own country. there is absolutely no control over these such things in good old mexico.
you can rape and kidnap a 100 women and childran and not even come close to getting caught. the laws and the attempts to prevent these things are basically pursued with such haphazardly efforts anyone can get away with just about anything in mexico. and because of this work type ethics theres just no fear. and thats what these mexican crimnals that come here bring with them. here they think they can get away with everything that they got away with there.
well i think i can tell you to get ready cause your going to see a whole lot more of these child molestations, attempted child molestations, kidnappings, rapes and murders mexican style
friend of mine told me just recently some people didnt like this one particular person and they wanted to kill him. he didnt know this of coarse and so they played him off real cummy like, got him to go on an overnite trip with them to tiajauna. u know whores, booze, lapdances and more whores and booze. uknow an overnighter. well they got him to go and when they got there they offed him.
hey, the perfact murder. its mexico. no one gives a shit that this guy was taken across the boarder, murdered and left for the rats. shit its mexico. you think it made the news? you think they care about some gringo that gets his throat cut? not in mexico. i mean these people see all these little 13 year old prostitutes running around all over the place day after day and they couldnt give a single solitary damn about a rats shiny ass as to weather or not these kids live or die.
yeah lets bring em all here so we can all enjoy the same things that they enjoy

PaceAdvantage
05-02-2006, 11:58 PM
OK, we get it....you're not a fan of Mexico....

hurrikane
05-03-2006, 07:41 AM
the problem with your example is that most of the illegal immigrants are not mexican.

They are from other south american countries and go through Mexico to cross the border into the US.

freeneasy
05-03-2006, 10:14 PM
OK, we get it....you're not a fan of Mexico....


right up the yin-yang every single day my truck sits dead in the driveway cause i aint got no work to go to courtesy of my non english speaking cutthroat mexican illeagal friend mr domingo who wants me to be a good little american gringo citizen and make sure that i pay all my taxes so he can fill my hospitals up and have all his babies at no cost then go and fill my schools with all of his childran while his wife collects $250 a month in food stamps per each child she covers, then demand that i give him a free drivers licence, a free ss number, and free american citizenship while he starts his own little bussines without any kind of a bussiness licence working completely under the table, not paying into any state or federal witholdings, not paying into any social security, and not paying into any workmans compensation either for himself or for his 5 buddies that he also has working for him because when he gets that personal check from whomever he's done his work for all he has to do is run down to the cornor liquor store as fast as his short little legs can carry him and cash it in pay his boys off, pocket the rest, run home, have a six pack, blast his music, screw the wife, have another baby and start all over again with no one being any more the wiser
hey i tell you what, sounds like a plan to me
and then he gets out his protest sign and screams out at me that i have "no right" to demand my rights and that i have no right to speak out and say that he's broken the law and that he has no rights here as an illeagal alien and that according to our goverment, he, as a lawbreaking illeagal alien is not entitled to and should never be given the right to have free citizenship, free social security, free drivers licences. free jobs, free schools, free education, free welfare, free food stamps, free medical, free medicade, free medicare, free babies, free hospitals, free doctors, free loans, free grants, free section eight's, and free voteing rights

maybe you dont think this thing has a serious enough side effect but if a stop isnt put to this crap right now then one of theses days because nothing was ever done to protect you from this invasion of these army ants, your going to be forced to your knees and your going to find yourself in desperate need of a job any job and your going to be left with only two choices. one is to get a job at jack in the box, the second is to come crawling to these illeagals begging that they give you a job, and all your going to get from them is, is they are simply going tell you to go fed the birds in the park cause they only hire their own and will never ever hire you cause to them you aint got noth'n comm'n
so before you ask me to pass the bird seed then wew had better see this thru together

PaceAdvantage
05-03-2006, 10:30 PM
How many times are you going to post the same thing? There's only so much a person can do, and not much they can do about the problem here on a horse racing message board.

That's all I'm saying. Please don't take this post as me trying to dimiss the gravity of the situation, or your situation in particular.

bigmack
05-03-2006, 11:22 PM
the problem with your example is that most of the illegal immigrants are not mexican.

They are from other south american countries and go through Mexico to cross the border into the US.

as i live in sandiego and am acutely aware of all stats you're way off here

freeneasy
05-04-2006, 12:26 PM
How many times are you going to post the same thing? There's only so much a person can do, and not much they can do about the problem here on a horse racing message board.

That's all I'm saying. Please don't take this post as me trying to dimiss the gravity of the situation, or your situation in particular.

but sometimes iam just get so beside myself with this thing that its all i can do to just spit, and with this latest encounter mexican illeagal thing with this domingo whacking off this hugh chunk of my hard earned bussiness like he's got every right to be here in the first place and publicly challendge me to that right is the straw p.a, the absolute straw that broke the camels back.
i mean this is a fresh, fresh wound and i got hammered real hard and if i dont find a way to recoup from that loss and protect my bussiness from going under to all these people then the fact, and i mean fact, that i could end up homeless is very somber and very, very real
i ve been homeless before and i didnt like it. havent had a shower in a week, hair all natted up, skins all filmy and dirty, hungry, cold, sleeping in unlocked cars, sleeping in ditches, under the pier or wherever you can, stealing blankets and clothes off of clothelines, panhandleing money on the boardwalk to get something to eat, nobody wants anything to do with you.
ive been there and its a place i dont ever want to go back to.
in the back of my mind i always knew that domingo and all his thousands of friends were going move in and start chopping me up into little pieces but this time i guess iam going to have to ride this one out and see what becomes of it cause i just cant take another occupation change, and dont want to. iam happy with where i am and with what iam doing right now.
hey i know it seems like never ending ranting but sometimes it seems like a never ending battle

rastajenk
05-04-2006, 01:06 PM
Maybe you'd do better if you used capital letters and periods.

Tom
05-04-2006, 02:00 PM
Mr. Compasionate - that was uncalled for.

freeneasy
05-04-2006, 03:21 PM
Maybe you'd do better if you used capital letters and periods.

I will take your advise and see what happens. One-one thousand. Two-two thousand. Three-three thousand. Nope. Didnt work. There still illeagally here running amuck.
Well, I guess it was a nice try and I did try but i think I'll just go ahead and stick with the old way i did things. But thanks for the advise

freeneasy
05-04-2006, 03:37 PM
Maybe you'd do better if you used capital letters and periods.

so let me stand for correction here.
i think now that you may have ment that if i use capitol letters and periods i might get better or do better in something or another. but you seemed to have left it at that so my question to you is what? i might get better in what? making my point? getting it across. i dont know, you seem to know. anyway i'am sure reading any of my post the way its grammatically written takes a little bit of getting used to along with anything else i write but i guess eventually one can get the hang of it.

freeneasy
05-04-2006, 04:39 PM
as i live in sandiego and am acutely aware of all stats you're way off here

i would'nt trade places nor would i even think of trading places with you for all the tea in china. i mean talk about getting to be like mexico city. you guys must have it twice as bad as we have it up here in l.a.

i was down in tiajauna last month and to try and make a long story short, while i was in tj got in with a coyote operation. just like that, easy as you please. took two phone calls, met with two people.
one guy took me to meet another guy and the other guy took me to their base of operations which was a two story house filled with illeagals, well they werent illeagals yet cause they had'nt crossed the boarder yet, but lets just say a two story house filled with soon to be illeagal mexicans, 10 foot high fenced in gate with a great big lock on it. couldnt get in coldnt get out without that lock comming off, unless you scaled the fence and i only say that in case i had to run for my life.
so the guy explains to me how the operation works, how they pay you, how they have a car with some kind of a designed hidden compartment where you stash the client , and when you cross which exit lane to be in and how when you cross the boarder gaurds are pre informed that your on your way and they know which car to look for and they just wave you thru and how even if you did get caught that you only spend no more then 3 hours in custody before they let you go, and how its, to put it in two words, no problem. see.
and this holding house was full of people waiting for their ride across the boarder and i mean this goes on non stop and you have to do is drop them off at otay mesa.
so i can imagine how san diego is full up to the brim and bursting apart at the seams mac but hey,
tell you what? if things get to bad for you down there and you need an extra job, i can put you on to a guy in tj who can hook you up hassel free and quick. just go down to the hooker hotelway and ask for nacho's his name, whats your poison? thats his game. speaks perfact english cause at one time he was an american living right here in east LA, got caught with a dime bag of coke amoungts numerous previous other busts and got himself deported.
but its nothing funny about the traffic that you guys got comming into san diego, it must be past the point of staggering