Iran's intentions.

[twindouble]

This is just gut feeling, no different than how I look at trainer intent that's supported by other factors to pick a winner. Like I said in another post, the radicals are becoming more organized. Al-Quaeda, Hammas, Hesbula along with all the others are banning together with Syria and Iran being at the helm. Their intention is to draw us into a wider war as soon as possible, the nuclear smoke screen is the bait, as soon as we act on it all hell will break lose through out the middle east. Their plan is to draw as many Muslim they can into the fray and that's the world wide holy war that Al-Quaeda has been calling for.

I think this will be their last desperate act and everything hinges on Iraq. If we act to soon on Iran Iraq could fail. At this point the Terrorist have lost every battle on all fronts, with patience on our part they will fail again but you can be assured we will get hit here in more ways than one. They see it as we do, a stable strong Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan will be their undoing. Bush and his boys got it right, but most here don't have the stomach for war and want intant victory or surrender.

Now keep in mind this is just an opinion and I'm in no way saying I have it all nailed down or even close, I do lose races on trainer intent. Just tell me what I missed or where I could be dead wrong. Open for discussion.

T.D.

[chickenhead]

I don't think Iran and Syria are spoiling for a war with the U.S. And I really don't think the U.S. is spoiling for a war with either of them.

I have a feeling if action takes place in Iran, it will be very limited (to enrichment facilities), and it will be done by a U.N. coalition, not by the U.S.

[twindouble]

I don't think Iran and Syria are spoiling for a war with the U.S. And I really don't think the U.S. is spoiling for a war with either of them.

I have a feeling if action takes place in Iran, it will be very limited (to enrichment facilities), and it will be done by a U.N. coalition, not by the U.S.

Here again, it's my opinion we won't get crap for support from the UN, unless we pay them off, you know suit cases full of money and the right to rape children through out the world. Then to top it off allow them to ignore every human tragedy untill it's to late. :mad:

T.D.

[chickenhead]

I'm not sure it will come to that anyway. Iran has an enormous number of young people who are mad because they can't get jobs. That is an explosive potential, either for them to get pissed at the Mullahs and make some changes, or to get radicalized further and pissed at us.

Building the bomb is a pretty good way for the Mullahs to make friends with them, the bomb is always a big source of national pride -- makes people feel good. BUT, and this is the big question, is this 70% group of young people interested in paying the price for getting the bomb? Do they really want to go through increased economic sanctions, making them even poorer, knowing full well that at the end of the day we will just bomb them, and keep them from getting anything out of it?

It's a pretty delicate balance I guess, but the key is to get those young people pissed at the Mullahs for isolating them. The mullahs will fold pretty quick if they see that happening, this is all about politics.

[twindouble]

It's a pretty delicate balance I guess, but the key is to get those young people pissed at the Mullahs for isolating them. The mullahs will fold pretty quick if they see that happening, this is all about politics.


Good point.
I agree there's that potential but as it stands now they have no power to rise up, the mullahs as we know think nothing of kill their own to stay in power, war in their mind will unite the country. Thats why I think the bomb is the smoke screen.

[DJofSD]

TD, my uptake is this: we are reaching a tipping point in the middle east and nuclear weapons are the catalyst. Having "the bomb" kicks it up more than just a notch or two. While conventional weapons and warfare results in people being killed, that is nothing compared to what even a small device can do. Remember TMI and Chernobel? Just think of the panic and unrest that would result if Israel were nuked.

Right now those in power in the middle east have more to gain than they have to lose by joining the nuclear club.

But, we really shouldn't panic. Let's just send in some U.N. inspectors, belief what we're told and just whistle in the dark.

[twindouble]

TD, my uptake is this: we are reaching a tipping point in the middle east and nuclear weapons are the catalyst. Having "the bomb" kicks it up more than just a notch or two. While conventional weapons and warfare results in people being killed, that is nothing compared to what even a small device can do. Remember TMI and Chernobel? Just think of the panic and unrest that would result if Israel were nuked.

Right now those in power in the middle east have more to gain than they have to lose by joining the nuclear club.

But, we really shouldn't panic. Let's just send in some U.N. inspectors, belief what we're told and just whistle in the dark.


Yes, I've given that some thought as well, I think if Iran did use a nuke on Israel, it would be suicide without a doubt. Like you said, a strike on Israel would make that land inhabitable, what's the gain for the Palestinians? That's another reason why I think they have other intentions that I spelled out.

Allowing inspectors in then tossing them out sounds familiar don't it?

[Ponyplayr]

This is actually a very interesting site. Check out the forums.
This particular link is the Islamic equivalent of Kosher Beef.:eek:

http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445

[twindouble]

This is actually a very interesting site. Check out the forums.
This particular link is the Islamic equivalent of Kosher Beef.:eek:

http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445



Pony; It's hard for me to believe anything that posted on the internet, have a hard enough time weeding out the bull in our media so I don't dive into the mess that's offered up with the blogs.

[kenwoodallpromos]

"Trainer intent" is what got us into Iraq!
Don't worry- Israel has the best spy network and if Iran meeses too much Israel will do the job Americans are not willing to do.

Yesterday the press Sec corrected a reported's pronounciation of "irr-ron' ", porter said eye-ran), then the press sec' proceeded to mispronounce Iraq at least 4 different ways! (irr-raq'; irr'-raq; eye'-raq; eye-raq';

[twindouble]

]"trainer intent" is what got us into Iraq![/b]
Don't worry- Israel has thje best spy network and if Iran meeses too much Israel will do the job Americans are not willing to do.

Yesterday the press Sec corrected a reported's pronounciation of "irr-raq" (reporter said eye-rack), then the press sec' proceeded to mispronounce Iran at leat 4 different ways!

Don't want anyone to lose sight of the fact this is primarily a horse racing site and we are all handicappers, good and bad. :lol:

[kenwoodallpromos]

"trainer intent" is what got us into Iraq!
Don't worry- Israel has thje best spy network and if Iran meeses too much Israel will do the job Americans are not willing to do.

Yesterday the press Sec corrected a reported's pronounciation of "irr-raq" (reporter said eye-rack), then the press sec' proceeded to mispronounce Iran at leat 4 different ways!

[kenwoodallpromos]

You wilol know when I forget about horseracing: My username will change to "Kenwoodallpornos"!LOL!!

[twindouble]

You wilol know when I forget about horseracing: My username will change to "Kenwoodallpornos"!LOL!!:D

I see we have the same priorities.

[skate]

TD; i wouldn't mess with your tr. intent theory.

but i think "too week in the stomach" is only a phoney media -driven ploy. to keep a balance between the two sides (dem & rep). and they (media) could end up being sorry.

media driven: because the George and Chainsaw team is so very very correct and strong, if this were played- up, we'd have no comparability remaining, with which to make or "news teams" profitable.

they could show just as much blood and torture if they (media) were to constitute right here in the states. or maybe even just show what is going on in, say , Trenton or Phila.
looks like civil war to me, under the definition of the media.

skaten

[twindouble]

TD; i wouldn't mess with your tr. intent theory.

but i think "too week in the stomach" is only a phoney media -driven ploy. to keep a balance between the two sides (dem & rep). and they (media) could end up being sorry.

media driven: because the George and Chainsaw team is so very very correct and strong, if this were played- up, we'd have no comparability remaining, with which to make or "news teams" profitable.

they could show just as much blood and torture if they (media) were to constitute right here in the states. or maybe even just show what is going on in, say , Trenton or Phila.
looks like civil war to me, under the definition of the media.

skaten

I take the media with a grain of salt, no different than the asses that tout horses at the track.