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Observer
04-04-2006, 11:03 PM
Just felt like I needed to bitch again about the INSANE gas prices as they continue to creep back toward the $3 mark for regular.

Sorry .. but I just can't help but think back to a few years ago .. and how much cheaper gas was .. maybe $1.50, $1.60 .. and today I paid $2.73 .. $35 to fill up .. which won't last the week. No wonder why I'm broke!!

But of course, it's my fault .. I obviously have not tried hard enough to find a car-pool buddy .. because everyone keeps the same schedule as me, not to mention travels where I need to be!
:bang:

(And no, I do not drive a gas guzzler).

JustRalph
04-04-2006, 11:32 PM
I drive 120 miles to work on Monday morn, stay overnight in one house on Monday night and come home on Tuesday afternoon. I work from home (the new house) on Wednesday and drive back to work on thursday morn. Come home for the weekend on Friday afternoon..........2 houses two hours apart........the real estate market sucks and I just lowered the price on the old house to seriously low numbers.......big time loss.........just to dump it. Are we having fun yet? !!! Got gas for 2.48 today

I decided to finally buy the truck I wanted since I am going to be on the road so much. About 21 mpg on the highway so far, after 2 weeks.

http://www.onstar.com/us_english/images/model/chevy/2006/tahoe.gif

On the bright side, it just emailed me and told me everything was fine..........with itself.......now if I could just get it to drive while I sleep.......... "Onstar Ready! " I have a new girlfriend for those lonely trips... :lol:

NoDayJob
04-04-2006, 11:39 PM
:lol: That's what regular leaded gasoline cost on the worst coast when I left for Korea in September 1950. Since then the average price for almost everything has increased by about 20+ times. In my book that puts unleaded 87 octane at about $3.58 per gallon so at 3 bucks it's still cheap. Remember, oil was about $4.00 per barrel in 1950. That's 22 times the price of a gallon of gas back then. Today's price per barrel, $68 / $3 = the same 22 times, so it's all relative. Blame the increase on the Federal Reserve. They're the ones that promote unrestricted credit and debt. :lol:

JustRalph
04-04-2006, 11:56 PM
no day, I remember when I first started driving. A union 76 station and a Certified would have gas wars every friday. I distinctly remember the certified sign.............

on one side was the price of gas. 35.9 a gallon.

the other side "Lucky Strikes .35 a pack..............

I am only 45...............those were the days..........the mid 70's :lol:

Tom
04-05-2006, 12:26 AM
no day, I remember when I first started driving. A union 76 station and a Certified would have gas wars every friday. I distinctly remember the certified sign.............

on one side was the price of gas. 35.9 a gallon.

the other side "Lucky Strikes .35 a pack..............

I am only 45...............those were the days..........the mid 70's :lol:

I remeber the triple bagger - gas, beer, smokes - all 35 cents

twindouble
04-05-2006, 09:22 AM
I remeber the triple bagger - gas, beer, smokes - all 35 cents

In the mid 50's the average price was 19.9 a gal, then there was a gas war going on, could hop over the border to NY and get reg leaded gas for 9.9 a gal. In 52 or 53 a pack of lucy strikes was 23 cents. In 1964 my father build a new colonal home for less than $10,000.00, that same home today here would cost you over $250,000.00 without the land.

When I was about 8 or 9, 1949, I can remember my father and my uncles sitting around the table bitching about the price of things and the need to grow their own vegetables and so on. Back then we still had doctors that did home visits, my lastest visit to the doctors office, I figured he made close to $800.00 an hr for the time spent with me. My son spent 2 days in the hospital banged up from a fall, the bill came to $14,000.00 not counting the doctors. My father could have added another 600 square feet to his house for that price. The latest news from Wall Street is inflation is under control. :lol: Thanks to the Feds 15 or 16 point rise in interest rates. :lol: The only thing I find cheep is the DRF. :eek:

T.D.

Ponyplayr
04-05-2006, 10:02 AM
I live in Palm Beach County,for $3.00 I can get an all day buss pass.

It is the cheapest way to get around town.

Tom
04-05-2006, 10:59 AM
I remeber gas wars of the 60's with prices going as low as 7-8-9 cents a gallon! They checked your oil and water, cleaned the windshield, gave out free maps, and wore ties. Said than you at the end.

Nowadays, they sit inside and flip you off as you drive away! :D

Observer
04-07-2006, 11:38 PM
Okay .. so today gas is up again ... anywhere from about $2.81 to $2.89 for regular.

That's $35 to fill up Tuesday, and another $20 for a half tank today.
:faint:

ljb
04-08-2006, 10:01 PM
For the life of me, I can't figure out why you guys are complaining. This is what you voted for ????

twindouble
04-08-2006, 10:39 PM
In my opinion oil should no longer be considered a commodity and should be scratched from speculators, it's not renewable like pork bellies or corn. We need price controls until we make the move to alternate sources of energy and no longer dependent on others when it comes to our national security. War is already here and it will get much worse before it gets better. Meanwhile we should build up our reserves to the point where we will ready for any eventuality. Anyone who thinks otherwise has learned nothing and ignores history.


T.D.

Tom
04-09-2006, 12:19 AM
In my opinion oil should no longer be considered a commodity and should be scratched from speculators, it's not renewable like pork bellies or corn. We need price controls until we make the move to alternate sources of energy and no longer dependent on others when it comes to our national security. War is already here and it will get much worse before it gets better. Meanwhile we should build up our reserves to the point where we will ready for any eventuality. Anyone who thinks otherwise has learned nothing and ignores history.


T.D.


Excellent point, TD...and we should nationalize the oil industry as well. Oil is far too impartant and limited to be allowed on the market. After all, as citizens of this country, it should be our property to begin with. Would be allow business to own the air or water?

twindouble
04-09-2006, 08:46 AM
Excellent point, TD...and we should nationalize the oil industry as well. Oil is far too impartant and limited to be allowed on the market. After all, as citizens of this country, it should be our property to begin with. Would be allow business to own the air or water?

Our friend Puken did just that, Russia has Europeans by the throat now. He and his corrupt criminals took control of the oil and gas industry. Remember that little bear cub I mentioned some time ago? Well he's grown up now.


T.D.

ljb
04-09-2006, 09:24 AM
Excellent point, TD...and we should nationalize the oil industry as well. Oil is far too impartant and limited to be allowed on the market. After all, as citizens of this country, it should be our property to begin with. Would be allow business to own the air or water?
I cannot believe this is coming from Tom.
In Evart Michigan there is a conflict going on right now concerning water. Nestle, an international company is putting in a water bottling plant. There was some debate prior to the plant being started at all, will they deplete the water supply ? However they won and began building their plant etc. Then more politics. Our Democratic governor insisted all waters sold from this plant must be sold in the great lakes area. This put a hold on project and of course the Republicans put out their spin about how Granholm is restriciting economic growth in our state. My thoughts were, she was just protecting our water according to laws set up by the states bordering the great lakes and Canada.
If Nestle is allowed to sell this water anywhere what is to stop them from selling it to Saudi Arabia ? Or what if they decided the water can be bottled more efficiently in India and start pumping us dry filling tankers to ship to India etc. ? So yes business is attempting to own the water. And I have seen gas stations where they have a charge for air.
One more thing about water. A few years back Illinois wanted to use lake Michigan to flush Chigago. Illinois is part of the group that has a say in the great lakes water control but, they were turned down.
As the population shifts to the southwest there will be more and more attempts at draining the great lakes to provide water for the dessert areas. Watch for more fights in this area in the near future.

Tom
04-09-2006, 12:25 PM
Ljb, we have missed your wit - no posts from 3/27 until yesterday.
Get the charges dropped, did you? :lol:

ljb
04-09-2006, 01:02 PM
Ljb, we have missed your wit - no posts from 3/27 until yesterday.
Get the charges dropped, did you? :lol:
Tom,
I went and talked to Jerry Fawell and prayed to the lord. (Oh wait that was Delay's activities and his charges have not been dropped) One more bum outta the way, many more to go. :D :D :D

Lefty
04-10-2006, 12:24 AM
For the life of me, I can't figure out why you guys are complaining. This is what you voted for ????

lbj, you can't be serious. If your lib buddies hadn't stopped us drilling in our own country 20 yrs ago, oil would be flowing and the price wouldn't be so steep. Another attempt to shift the blame from the socialists to this admin.

ljb
04-10-2006, 09:04 AM
lbj, you can't be serious. If your lib buddies hadn't stopped us drilling in our own country 20 yrs ago, oil would be flowing and the price wouldn't be so steep. Another attempt to shift the blame from the socialists to this admin.
Lefty,
Oil is sold on a world market. You could drill where ever you want and we would still be getting gouged by BIG Oil. Exxon just surpassed Walmart as the wealthiest corporation in the world. Walmart did it by sqeezing their suppliers and utilizing China's slave labor. Exxon surpassed them by gouging and hefty tax breaks from our government. Your neocon buddies have you in a coma.

Observer
04-10-2006, 10:49 AM
For the life of me, I can't figure out why you guys are complaining. This is what you voted for ????

Ah, but I CAN complain .. this is NOT what I voted for!

By the way .. gas is now over $3.00 a gallon for regular.

What disaster happened this week that has caused such a surge??

And I'd really rather not hear about how the cost of gas has not kept up with other costs of living .. neither has salaries .. which is another hot topic with me .. and a reason I am complaining. When the cost of living, taxes, etc continue rising and none of my salaries has budged (for years), it makes it damn near impossible to get by. Is that a good enough explanation for why I might be complaining??

Lefty
04-10-2006, 11:23 AM
lbj, if we drilled 29 yrs ago, there would be lots more oil, world mkt or not.
And we would not be paying the prices we are.

ljb
04-10-2006, 01:48 PM
Ah, but I CAN complain .. this is NOT what I voted for!

By the way .. gas is now over $3.00 a gallon for regular.

What disaster happened this week that has caused such a surge??

And I'd really rather not hear about how the cost of gas has not kept up with other costs of living .. neither has salaries .. which is another hot topic with me .. and a reason I am complaining. When the cost of living, taxes, etc continue rising and none of my salaries has budged (for years), it makes it damn near impossible to get by. Is that a good enough explanation for why I might be complaining??
Note highlighted text, did you vote for Bush? if yes, nuff said. if no then complain at will, loud and clear.

ljb
04-10-2006, 01:50 PM
lbj, if we drilled 29 yrs ago, there would be lots more oil, world mkt or not.
And we would not be paying the prices we are.
Yeah and if the dog hadn't stopped to dump on the railroad tracks. Get real Lefty.

traveler
04-11-2006, 01:24 PM
I think both sides -Lib/Cons.- miss the point on oil prices. I think we are being gouged to a certain extent but it is the oil traders. Canada exports oil, they don't need to import, yet they are paying $1/litre now = about $3.30 per gallon. That is more than we pay in the U.S.. Is that big oil or George Bush or libs. not letting drilling go forth? No, oil prices are set worlwide, the main diff. is due to Govt. taxes in Canada are higher. Think about it. :confused:

JustRalph
04-11-2006, 01:33 PM
2.85 and 2.90 in some places today.........this sucks.......

ljb
04-11-2006, 02:19 PM
One other thing screwing with gas prices is the speculators bidding up oil eveytime something happens. This administration could slow this down by suggesting they were going to release some of our stockpile. They wouldn't even have to release it, just suggest it. Wonder why they haven't done so ? Hmm ?

Lefty
04-11-2006, 09:31 PM
Yeah and if the dog hadn't stopped to dump on the railroad tracks. Get real Lefty.
That's a stupid answer, lbj. Just stupid!

Lefty
04-11-2006, 09:34 PM
One other thing screwing with gas prices is the speculators bidding up oil eveytime something happens. This administration could slow this down by suggesting they were going to release some of our stockpile. They wouldn't even have to release it, just suggest it. Wonder why they haven't done so ? Hmm ?

Weird you think releasing some oil from a small stockpile would curb prices but don't think 20 yrs of oil from all our sources, such as Anwir, would make any diff at all. And you're the guy told ME to get real.

ljb
04-11-2006, 11:27 PM
Weird you think releasing some oil from a small stockpile would curb prices but don't think 20 yrs of oil from all our sources, such as Anwir, would make any diff at all. And you're the guy told ME to get real.
You just don't get it Lefty.

Lefty
04-11-2006, 11:41 PM
You just don't get it Lefty.

Wow, another you just don't get it , Lefty. That must be a thousand of em. You must have it on a "boilerplate"

Tom
04-12-2006, 12:15 AM
Lefty,
See if you can trade them in for valuable prizes, you know, like S&H Green Stamps?

I got a whole set of Tonka trucks that way. :jump:

ljb
04-12-2006, 12:47 AM
Wow, another you just don't get it , Lefty. That must be a thousand of em. You must have it on a "boilerplate"
I knew you didn't get it but I didn't realize you didn't get it a thousand times.

ljb
04-12-2006, 12:54 AM
Lefty,
See if you can trade them in for valuable prizes, you know, like S&H Green Stamps?

I got a whole set of Tonka trucks that way. :jump:
Tom, perhaps you could give your "don't get it stamps" to Lefty, You do get it sometimes and can't have near as many "don't get it stamps" as lefty. If Lefty collects enough of them, they are offering a primer in understanding and accepting reality in their prize book along with the Tonka trucks of course.

Lefty
04-12-2006, 01:07 AM
Tom, good suggestion. Maybe I could get an electric weed whacker.

ljb
04-12-2006, 02:59 AM
Tom, good suggestion. Maybe I could get an electric weed whacker.
Lefty,
You are already whacky enough, electicity not needed. :lol:

twindouble
04-12-2006, 06:14 AM
Bush, Bush, Bush, everything is about Bush! Anyone who thinks this government is run by one man is fishing in puddle trying to catch a whale. Freaking wake up!

Speaking of waking up, I'm caffeine starved. :mad: Give me another half hr and I'll be back to normal, what ever that is. :bang:


T.D.

ljb
04-12-2006, 07:44 AM
Bush, Bush, Bush, everything is about Bush! Anyone who thinks this government is run by one man is fishing in puddle trying to catch a whale. Freaking wake up!

Speaking of waking up, I'm caffeine starved. :mad: Give me another half hr and I'll be back to normal, what ever that is. :bang:


T.D.
We all know that Bush is just the spokesman for the neocons. and that is why he is the one held responsible. Click on the link in the leftwing video and you will see there are many others to blame also.

twindouble
04-12-2006, 07:57 AM
We all know that Bush is just the spokesman for the neocons. and that is why he is the one held responsible. Click on the link in the leftwing video and you will see there are many others to blame also.

Do you think the tentacles of Congress don't reach the White House, Republican or Democrat? That's like saying you can drive your car without wheels.


T.D.

ljb
04-12-2006, 09:39 AM
Are you referring to the Rubber Stamp Republicans ?

twindouble
04-12-2006, 09:42 AM
Are you referring to the Rubber Stamp Republicans ?


No, I was refering to those that can't see past their nose.