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Que
03-06-2006, 11:25 AM
my updated top 30 (with respective pace figures below)...

1. BROTHER DEREK (7-5-0-1 $712,080) (990-1009-1016-1024) (1030) Hendricks, Dan 3/4/2006-SA5 1 1/16m 1-1 3/4 Grd (2|200,000) SANTA CATALINA S.
2. FIRST SAMURAI (7-5-1-1 $892,575) (986-985-994-1006) (1021) Brothers, Frank 3/4/2006-GP10 1 1/8m 2-1 Grd (2|300,000) FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH S.
3. LAWYER RON (12-5-1-3 $440,008) (1006-989-991-998) (1007) Holthus, Robert 2/25/2006-OP10 1m 1-3/4 Stk (250,000) SOUTHWEST S.
4. SACRED LIGHT (5-1-1-2 $92,540) (963-992-1005-1021) (1045) Hofmans, David 3/4/2006-SA5 1 1/16m 2-1 3/4 Grd (2|200,000) SANTA CATALINA S.
5. YOUR TENT OR MINE (3-2-1-0 $173,250) (975-995-1013-1021) (1031) Drysdale, Neil 12/17/2005-Hol8 1 1/16m 2-1 Grd (1|407,250) HOLLYWOOD FUTURITY
6. ACHILLES OF TROY (6-3-1-1 $128,577) (1015-1018-1024-1017) (993) Pedersen, Jennifer 2/11/2006-Aqu8 1 1/16m 1-4 3/4 Stk (70,915) WHIRLAWAY S.
7. POINT DETERMINED (4-2-1-1 $60,330) (972-979-998-1006) (1015) Baffert, Bob 2/17/2006-GG7 1m 1-1 1/2 OClm (80,000|NW1X|31,930)
8. BARBARO (4-4-0-0 $249,000) (1010-1021-1021-1014) (993) Matz, Michael 2/4/2006-GP9 1 1/8m 1-3/4 Stk (150,000) HOLY BULL S.
9. LATENT HEAT (3-1-1-1 $59,200) (996-1010-1017-1016) (1001) Frankel, Robert 3/4/2006-SA5 1 1/16m 3-4 1/2 Grd (2|200,000) SANTA CATALINA S.
10. BALANCE* (5-3-1-1 $333,300) (992-1012-1019-1016) (999) Hofmans, David 2/11/2006-SA9 1m 1-1 Grd (1|250,000) LAS VIRGENES S.
11. WILD FIT* (5-2-3-0 $482,600) (938-987-1009-1014) (1018) Biancone, Patrick 2/11/2006-SA9 1m 2-1 Grd (1|250,000) LAS VIRGENES S.
12. CAUSE TO BELIEVE (8-5-3-0 $280,565) (976-983-998-1016) (1041) Hollendorfer, Jerry 1/29/2006-BM8 1 1/16m 1-3/4 Grd (3|250,000) EL CAMINO REAL DERBY
13. SUNRIVER (5-2-2-0 $61,400) (970-991-1003-1011) (1019) Pletcher, Todd 3/4/2006-GP3 1 1/8m 1-1/2 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
14. SUPERFLY (7-1-2-3 $156,710) (978-991-1003-995) (968) Zito, Nicholas 3/4/2006-GP3 1 1/8m 3-9 1/4 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
15. FLASHY BULL (8-1-4-1 $159,650) (979-979-991-1006) (1026) McLaughlin, Kiaran 3/4/2006-GP10 1 1/8m 3-1 Grd (2|300,000) FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH S.
16. TEAMMATE* (7-2-3-1 $151,486) (982-989-995-1012) (1038) Jerkens, H. 3/5/2006-GP8 1 1/8m 1-6 Grd (2|150,000) BONNIE MISS S.
17. CORINTHIAN (4-2-1-1 $87,800) (969-977-989-1008) (1037) Jerkens, James 3/4/2006-GP10 1 1/8m 1-1 Grd (2|300,000) FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH S.
18. BOB AND JOHN (7-3-1-2 $200,070) (955-973-999-1015) (1036) Baffert, Bob 2/4/2006-SA3 1 1/8m 1-4 1/2 Stk (100,000) SHAM S.
19. WAIT A WHILE* (6-3-0-2 $203,780) (975-985-994-1001) (1008) Pletcher, Todd 3/5/2006-GP8 1 1/8m 3-6 Grd (2|150,000) BONNIE MISS S.
20. BLUEGRASS CAT (5-4-0-0 $273,780) (972-980-992-1008) (1035) Pletcher, Todd 2/18/2006-Tam10 1 1/16m 1-1 1/4 Stk (121,000) SAM F. DAVIS S.
21. DIPLOMAT LADY* (6-3-0-0 $339,800) (1035-1020-1021-1001) (933) Paasch, Christopher 2/11/2006-SA9 1m 5-7 3/4 Grd (1|250,000) LAS VIRGENES S.
22. BOLD CHIEFTAIN (4-2-0-1 $84,755) (984-991-1001-1011) (1018) Morey, Jr., William 1/29/2006-BM8 1 1/16m 3-2 3/4 Grd (3|250,000) EL CAMINO REAL DERBY
23. HIGH BLUES (8-1-3-3 $48,405) (962-985-999-1011) (1024) Paulus, David 3/4/2006-GP3 1 1/8m 2-1/2 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
24. ITTY BITTY PRETTY* (7-2-1-3 $157,909) (1008-1011-1013-1010) (989) O'Neill, Doug 2/11/2006-SA9 1m 3-3 1/4 Grd (1|250,000) LAS VIRGENES S.
25. ONE WAY FLIGHT (4-2-1-1 $122,763) (1027-1020-1025-1008) (964) Asmussen, Steven 2/11/2006-Aqu8 1 1/16m 2-4 3/4 Stk (70,915) WHIRLAWAY S.
26. A. P. WARRIOR (6-2-1-0 $137,185) (966-975-993-1000) (1000) Harty, Eoin 1/29/2006-BM8 1 1/16m 4-8 3/4 Grd (3|250,000) EL CAMINO REAL DERBY
27. MARK OF SUCCESS (4-2-1-0 $98,100) (983-980-986-979) (945) Stewart, Dallas 2/25/2006-OP10 1m 5-10 1/4 Stk (250,000) SOUTHWEST S.
28. WANNA RUNNER (6-2-0-1 $81,950) (972-983-998-999) (986) Baffert, Bob 1/29/2006-BM8 1 1/16m 5-9 Grd (3|250,000) EL CAMINO REAL DERBY
29. MISTER TRIESTER (7-1-1-0 $49,680) (992-1009-1016-1009) (979) Stute, Warren 3/4/2006-SA5 1 1/16m 4-8 1/4 Grd (2|200,000) SANTA CATALINA S.
30. SARATOGA DRIVE* (3-2-0-1 $49,900) (970-980-992-1009) (1034) Violette, Jr., Richard 2/16/2006-GP4 1 1/8m 1-2 Alw (NW1X|33,000)

Que
03-06-2006, 11:28 AM
1. BROTHER DEREK (7-5-0-1 $712,080)
3/4/2006-SA5 1 1/16m (990-1009-1016-1024) (1030) 3556 1-1 3/4 Grd (2|200,000)
1/14/2006-SA6 1m (987-1003-1020-1023) (1020) ---- 1-1 1/2 Grd (2|147,000)
12/17/2005-Hol8 1 1/16m (990-1002-1018-1023) (1025) 3547 1-1 Grd (1|407,250)
10/29/2005-Bel4 1 1/16m (1015-1031-1027-1021) (997) 3553 4-8 1/2 Grd (1|1,458,030)

2. FIRST SAMURAI (7-5-1-1 $892,575)
3/4/2006-GP10 1 1/8m (986-985-994-1006) (1021) 3491 2*-1 Grd (2|300,000) *placed 1st
2/4/2006-GP8 6.5f (1014-1022-na-1014) (993) ---- 2-1 1/4 Stk (150,000)
10/29/2005-Bel4 1 1/16m (1003-1025-1027-1031) (1031) 3585 3-3 1/4 Grd (1|1,458,030)
10/8/2005-Bel9 1m (1056-1066-1054-1036) (988) ---- 1-2 3/4 Grd (1|500,000)

3. LAWYER RON (12-5-1-3 $440,008)
2/25/2006-OP10 1m (1006-989-991-998) (1007) ---- 1-3/4 Stk (250,000)
1/14/2006-LaD9 1 1/16m (988-1006-1011-1020) (1029) 3544 1-8 1/4 Grd (3|268,000)
12/31/2005-EvD9 1m (948-971-981-1013) (1102) ---- 1-8 1/2 Stk (100,000)
12/9/2005-LaD8 1m 70yds (982-985-1004-1019) (1045) ---- 1-10 3/4 OClm (50,000|NW1X|37,000)

4. SACRED LIGHT (5-1-1-2 $92,540)
3/4/2006-SA5 1 1/16m (963-992-1005-1021) (1045) 3542 2-1 3/4 Grd (2|200,000)
2/4/2006-SA3 1 1/8m (944-967-992-1005) (1020) 3474 3-6 Stk (100,000)
1/20/2006-SA6 1 1/16m (933-957-977-1007) (1068) 3493 3-3 Alw (NW1X|52,800)
8/25/2005-Dmr2 1m (988-995-997-1005) (1017) ---- 2-Head Mdn (56,000)

5. YOUR TENT OR MINE (3-2-1-0 $173,250)
12/17/2005-Hol8 1 1/16m (975-995-1013-1021) (1031) 3540 2-1 Grd (1|407,250)
11/19/2005-Hol8 7f (993-1005-na-1022) (1032) ---- 1-2 1/2 Grd (3|100,000)
9/4/2005-Dmr6 6.5f (973-982-na-994) (1003) ---- 1-1/2 Mdn (53,000)

6. ACHILLES OF TROY (6-3-1-1 $128,577)
2/11/2006-Aqu8 1 1/16m (1015-1018-1024-1017) (995) 3535 1-4 3/4 Stk (70,915)
1/7/2006-Aqu8 1m 70yds (1023-1019-1019-1026) (1040) ---- 1-14 Stk (74,880)
12/29/2005-Aqu3 6f (na-na-na-1017) () ---- 1-4 1/2 Mdn (43,000)
12/10/2005-Aqu6 1 1/16m (1022-1010-1004-1006) (1006) 3507 4-4 Mdn (44,000)

7. POINT DETERMINED (4-2-1-1 $60,330)
2/17/2006-GG7 1m (972-979-998-1006) (1015) ---- 1-1 1/2 OClm (80,000|NW1X|31,930)
2/3/2006-SA7 1m (988-1005-1011-1016) (1019) ---- 2-2 1/4 Alw (NW1X|53,600)
1/13/2006-SA6 1 1/16m (1020-1013-1010-1015) (1016) 3533 1-5 1/2 Mdn (47,600)
12/26/2005-SA6 6.5f (972-977-na-1009) (1046) ---- 3-3 1/2 Mdn (47,200)

8. BARBARO (4-4-0-0 $249,000)
2/4/2006-GP9 1 1/8m (1010-1021-1021-1014) (993) 3530 1-3/4 Stk (150,000)
1/1/2006-Crc11 1 1/8m (968-979-981-1002) (1030) ---- 1-3 3/4 Grd (3|100,000)
11/19/2005-Lrl6 1 1/16m (1028-1007-1013-1017) (1022) ---- 1-8 Stk (125,000)
10/4/2005-Del7 1m (1005-992-993-999) (1030) ---- 1-8 1/2 Mdn (41,800)

9. LATENT HEAT (3-1-1-1 $59,200)
3/4/2006-SA5 1 1/16m (996-1010-1017-1016) (1001) 3527 3-4 1/2 Grd (2|200,000)
1/21/2006-SA3 7f (1021-1010-na-1016) (1010) ---- 1-2 3/4 Mdn (46,000)
12/26/2005-SA6 6.5f (987-996-na-1016) (1034) ---- 2-1/2 Mdn (47,200)

10. BALANCE (5-3-1-1 $333,300)
2/11/2006-SA9 1m (992-1012-1019-1016) (999) ---- 1-1 Grd (1|250,000)
12/18/2005-Hol8 1 1/16m (1002-1012-1012-1007) (989) 3504 2-1/2 Grd (1|456,000)
11/27/2005-Hol8 1 1/16m (1012-1005-1007-1015) (1022) 3529 1-1 3/4 Stk (100,000)
11/2/2005-SA7 1m (967-963-968-979) (1006) ---- 1-1 1/4 Stk (NW1RL|67,500)

11. WILD FIT (5-2-3-0 $482,600)
2/11/2006-SA9 1m (938-987-1009-1014) (1018) ---- 2-1 Grd (1|250,000)
10/29/2005-Bel3 1 1/16m (969-1007-1011-1011) (1009) 3520 2-1 1/4 Grd (1|972,020)
10/1/2005-SA4 1 1/16m (1002-1003-1000-995) (978) 3466 2-3/4 Grd (2|200,000)
8/27/2005-Dmr8 7f (967-997-na-1002) (998) ---- 1-2 Grd (1|250,000)

12. CAUSE TO BELIEVE (8-5-3-0 $280,565)
1/29/2006-BM8 1 1/16m (976-983-998-1016) (1041) 3520 1-3/4 Grd (3|250,000)
1/8/2006-SA7 6f (954-990-na-1016) (1057) ---- 2-4 Stk (81,200)
11/26/2005-GG8 6f (950-988-na-1011) (1043) ---- 1-1 Stk (50,600)
10/15/2005-BM8 1m (991-992-994-1003) (1016) ---- 1-2 1/2 Stk (68,200)

13. SUNRIVER (5-2-2-0 $61,400)
3/4/2006-GP3 1 1/8m (970-991-1003-1011) (1019) 3508 1-1/2 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
2/4/2006-GP9 1 1/8m (990-1004-991-998) (1005) 3482 7-9 1/4 Stk (150,000)
1/15/2006-GP7 1 1/8m (976-996-1003-1007) (1007) 3498 2-3/4 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
11/4/2005-Aqu7 1 1/8m (1013-1015-1015-1016) (1013) 3537 1-Neck Mdn (44,000)

14. SUPERFLY (7-1-2-3 $156,710)
3/4/2006-GP3 1 1/8m (978-991-1003-995) (968) 3451 3-9 1/4 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
2/4/2006-GP5 7f (1003-1012-na-986) (946) ---- 2-3 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
10/29/2005-Bel4 1 1/16m (972-1016-1020-1021) (1013) 3547 5-8 1/2 Grd (1|1,458,030)
10/8/2005-Bel9 1m (1056-1060-1026-1011) (974) ---- 3-12 1/2 Grd (1|500,000)

15. FLASHY BULL (8-1-4-1 $159,650)
3/4/2006-GP10 1 1/8m (979-979-991-1006) (1026) 3488 3*-1 Grd (2|300,000) *placed 2nd
2/4/2006-GP9 1 1/8m (998-1019-1018-1007) (980) 3509 4-3 3/4 Stk (150,000)
11/26/2005-Aqu7 1 1/8m (997-1000-1007-1008) (1002) 3502 2-1 3/4 Grd (2|200,000)
10/26/2005-Bel9 1 1/16m (1041-1031-1011-1010) (1002) 3531 1-5 1/4 Mdn (44,000)

Que
03-06-2006, 11:30 AM
16. TEAMMATE (7-2-3-1 $151,486)
3/5/2006-GP8 1 1/8m (982-989-995-1012) (1038) 3515 1-6 Grd (2|150,000)
2/4/2006-GP6 1 1/8m (1029-1024-1026-994) (932) 3468 2-14 Stk (150,000)
1/13/2006-GP9 1m (978-1004-1010-1008) (995) ---- 2-Head Alw (NW1X|33,000)
12/11/2005-Crc8 1 1/16m (985-968-971-995) (1039) 3461 1-8 3/4 Mdn (19,500)

17. CORINTHIAN (4-2-1-1 $87,800)
3/4/2006-GP10 1 1/8m (969-977-989-1008) (1037) 3495 1*-1 Grd (2|300,000) *DQ-placed 3rd
2/2/2006-GP6 1 1/8m (981-977-994-1016) (1051) 3519 1-3/4 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
11/26/2005-Aqu4 1m (997-1003-1010-1012) (1010) ---- 1-1 Mdn (44,000)
10/15/2005-Bel4 6f (960-996-na-995) (984) ---- 2-6 1/4 Mdn (43,000)

18. BOB AND JOHN (7-3-1-2 $200,070)
2/4/2006-SA3 1 1/8m (955-973-999-1015) (1036) 3508 1-4 1/2 Stk (100,000)
1/20/2006-SA6 1 1/16m (976-985-999-1012) (1030) 3510 1-3 Alw (NW1X|52,800)
12/17/2005-Hol8 1 1/16m (979-996-1008-1013) (1017) 3517 3-5 Grd (1|407,250)
11/26/2005-Hol3 1 1/16m (968-982-991-1010) (1046) 3512 1-6 Stk (100,000)

19. WAIT A WHILE (6-3-0-2 $203,780)
3/5/2006-GP8 1 1/8m (975-985-994-1001) (1008) 3476 3-6 Grd (2|150,000)
2/4/2006-GP6 1 1/8m (1025-1028-1031-1018) (991) 3547 1-14 Stk (150,000)
11/26/2005-Aqu6 1 1/8m (1007-992-994-995) (989) 3461 3-4 1/4 Grd (2|196,000)
10/23/2005-Bel6 1 1/8m (1013-996-989-998) (1010) 3479 1-6 1/2 Stk (82,550)

20. BLUEGRASS CAT (5-4-0-0 $273,780)
2/18/2006-Tam10 1 1/16m (972-980-992-1008) (1035) 3498 1-1 1/4 Stk (121,000)
11/26/2005-Aqu7 1 1/8m (1000-1002-1009-1011) (1009) 3514 1-1 3/4 Grd (2|200,000)
10/28/2005-Bel8 1m (1025-1032-1036-1025) (993) ---- 1-1 1/4 Grd (3|113,300)
9/24/2005-Bel2 7f (1001-999-na-1007) (1008) ---- 1-6 1/2 Mdn (43,000)

21. DIPLOMAT LADY (6-3-0-0 $339,800)
2/11/2006-SA9 1m (1035-1020-1021-1001) (933) ---- 5-7 3/4 Grd (1|250,000)
12/18/2005-Hol8 1 1/16m (1018-1016-1015-1008) (986) 3508 1-1/2 Grd (1|456,000)
11/12/2005-Hol1 6f (1010-995-na-1007) (1019) ---- 1-2 1/4 Alw (NW1X|42,252)
8/27/2005-Dmr8 7f (1000-1009-na-966) (904) ---- 10-16 Grd (1|250,000)

22. BOLD CHIEFTAIN (4-2-0-1 $84,755)
1/29/2006-BM8 1 1/16m (984-991-1001-1011) (1018) 3505 3-2 3/4 Grd (3|250,000)
12/31/2005-BM4 1m (1018-1009-1009-1003) (975) ---- 1-2 1/4 OClm (40,000|NW1X|41,180)
12/1/2005-GG1 6f (1020-1024-na-1013) (982) ---- 1-5 1/2 Mdn (38,400)
11/6/2005-GG2 6f (969-984-na-988) (988) ---- 4-4 3/4 Mdn (38,325)

23. HIGH BLUES (8-1-3-3 $48,405)
3/4/2006-GP3 1 1/8m (962-985-999-1011) (1024) 3504 2-1/2 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
2/2/2006-GP6 1 1/8m (964-968-989-1009) (1038) 3490 3-4 1/4 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
1/15/2006-GP7 1 1/8m (954-972-984-1003) (1034) 3480 3-3 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
12/1/2005-TP4 1m (967-981-992-996) (991) ---- 3-5 3/4 Alw (NW1X|22,200)

24. ITTY BITTY PRETTY (7-2-1-3 $157,909)
2/11/2006-SA9 1m (1008-1011-1013-1010) (989) ---- 3-3 1/4 Grd (1|250,000)
1/7/2006-SA3 1 1/16m (961-975-988-1009) (1049) 3503 1-6 Grd (3|109,200)
11/12/2005-Hol1 6f (972-991-na-1001) (1009) ---- 2-2 1/4 Alw (NW1X|42,252)
10/23/2005-SA8 6f (958-973-na-989) (1007) ---- 4-6 Stk (82,125)

25. ONE WAY FLIGHT (4-2-1-1 $122,763)
2/11/2006-Aqu8 1 1/16m (1027-1020-1025-1008) (966) 3505 2-4 3/4 Stk (70,915)
1/16/2006-Aqu8 6f (949-956-na-986) (1041) ---- 3-5 1/4 Stk (70,135)
8/20/2005-FL6 6f (982-980-na-1003) (1030) ---- 1-13 1/4 Stk (128,275)
7/3/2005-Bel2 5f (997-989-na-999) (997) ---- 1-4 Mdn (41,000)

26. A. P. WARRIOR (6-2-1-0 $137,185)
1/29/2006-BM8 1 1/16m (966-975-993-1000) (1000) 3461 4-8 3/4 Grd (3|250,000)
12/17/2005-Hol8 1 1/16m (964-988-1003-1011) (1023) 3509 4-6 1/4 Grd (1|407,250)
11/4/2005-SA2 1m (1005-1004-1015-1018) (1019) ---- 1-4 Alw (NW1X|47,020)
10/2/2005-SA6 1 1/16m (1004-1007-1009-1011) (1007) 3516 2-3/4 Grd (2|200,000)

27. MARK OF SUCCESS (4-2-1-0 $98,100)
2/25/2006-OP10 1m (983-980-986-979) (945) ---- 5-10 1/4 Stk (250,000)
1/14/2006-LaD9 1 1/16m (999-1006-1009-1004) (984) 3490 2-8 1/4 Grd (3|268,000)
12/17/2005-LaD8 1 1/16m (991-995-998-1009) (1024) 3508 1-4 3/4 OClm (50,000|NW1X|41,000)
11/13/2005-CD10 6f (966-982-na-992) (997) ---- 1-2 MClm (30,000|20,000)

28. WANNA RUNNER (6-2-0-1 $81,950)
1/29/2006-BM8 1 1/16m (972-983-998-999) (986) 3459 5-9 Grd (3|250,000)
1/14/2006-SA6 1m (980-999-1016-1014) (995) ---- 3-4 3/4 Grd (2|147,000)
12/28/2005-SA4 1 1/16m (1016-1002-1010-1010) (999) 3505 1-1 3/4 Alw (NW1X|53,200)
11/25/2005-Hol6 1 1/16m (994-1002-1002-1010) (1021) 3516 1-Nose Mdn (42,000)

29. MISTER TRIESTER (7-1-1-0 $49,680)
3/4/2006-SA5 1 1/16m (992-1009-1016-1009) (979) 3500 4-8 1/4 Grd (2|200,000)
2/3/2006-SA6 1m (988-993-996-1019) (1079) ---- 1-4 Mdn (47,600)
12/26/2005-SA6 6.5f (993-1000-na-995) (973) ---- 5-9 1/4 Mdn (47,200)
11/26/2005-Hol7 6f (971-975-na-987) (1000) ---- 2-4 1/4 Mdn (41,200)

30. SARATOGA DRIVE (3-2-0-1 $49,900)
2/16/2006-GP4 1 1/8m (970-980-992-1009) (1034) 3499 1-2 Alw (NW1X|33,000)
1/8/2006-Aqu2 6f (957-976-na-993) (1020) ---- 1-2 Mdn (43,000)
12/4/2005-Aqu2 6f (960-976-na-990) (1018) ---- 3-1 3/4 Mdn (43,000)

Valuist
03-07-2006, 10:47 AM
No Steppenwolfer in the top 30? IMO he ran a superior race to Lawyer Ron in the Southwest.

Que
03-07-2006, 01:49 PM
Valuist,

Based on my pace figures (below), I think STEPPENWOLFER is much too slow to be a Derby Contender. Remember GREATER GOOD at this time last year? Lots of hype, but couldn't handle the faster pace when challenging the best horse's in the country.

STEPPENWOLFER (6-3-1-1 $131,520)
2/3/2006-OP2 1m (941-970-982-995) (1023) ---- 1-4 1/2 Alw (NW2X|34,000)
1/7/2006-LaD7 1 1/16m (937-968-976-993) (1020) 3448 1-Head OClm (50,000|NW1X|49,200)
12/17/2005-LaD8 1 1/16m (944-968-981-1000) (1035) 3472 3-5 OClm (50,000|NW1X|41,000)

GREATER GOOD
5/7/2005-CD10 1 1/4m (942-981-1007-1017) (965) 3466 13-11 1/2 Grd (1|2,000,000)
4/16/2005-OP9 1 1/8m (970-984-996-1009) (1025) 3499 5-12 Grd (2|1,000,000)
3/19/2005-OP10 1 1/16m (957-983-991-1008) (1036) 3502 1-1/2 Grd (3|250,000)
2/19/2005-OP9 1m (919-957-986-999) (1028) ---- 1-3/4 Stk (100,000)
11/27/2004-CD11 1 1/16m (962-987-998-1015) (1046) 3526 1-1 3/4 Grd (2|200,000)
11/6/2004-CD10 1m (967-984-998-1006) (1021) ---- 3-7 Grd (3|100,000)
9/18/2004-TP10 1 1/16m (881-959-1001-1010) (1020) 3482 1-2 3/4 Grd (3|100,000)
8/7/2004-ElP7 7f (968-969-na-998) (1025) ---- 1-1 1/2 Mdn (23,700)
7/24/2004-ElP5 6f (920-933-na-975) (1048) ---- 5-6 Mdn (25,000)

Valuist
03-07-2006, 04:17 PM
The way I see it, Lawyer Ron was the one who benefitted from the pace the most in the Southwest. It was slow and he was fresh turning for home. Steppenwolfer was closing into a slow pace, which is not easy to do. Had Lawyer Ron run an average pace, I'm sure Steppenwolfer would've blown right by him.

Que
03-07-2006, 07:33 PM
Valuist,

Remember that my rankings are computer generated, and only race's at 1 1/16 mile or greater are considered... i.e. if the program had used LAWYER RON's pace figures in his last race which was only a mile, he probably wouldn't have even made the top 30. Also, I don't really buy into the theory of closing into a slow pace. Often a horse won't have anything left to close with if the pace was faster, or there will be a wall of horse's he will need to get through if he still has something left. Anyway, its been my experience keeping figures that horse's with early speed figures like STEPPENWOLFER and/or GREATER GOOD don't fare too well in the Derby... but only time will tell. You could be right regarding STEPPENWOLFER, but I'll wait to see what he does when he's forced to run a quicker first 1/2 mile. As far as the other horses, besides BROTHER DEREK there isn't another three year old that really impresses me thus far. I wasn't very impressed with FIRST SAMURAI's last race, and as I said earlier, I also wasn't impressed with LAWYER RON's victory in the Sothwest Stakes either.