Positive ROI Club SELECTIONS ONLY Thread Tuesday February 28, 2006

[RaceIsClosed]

Following are the current standings:

Hits/ WPS Exotic Total
Player Races ROI ROI ROI

BigRed 01/01 4.10 0.00 4.10
ROIHandicapping 04/26 0.00 1.68 1.63
JeffP 04/06 1.36 0.00 1.36
Maxwell 03/15 1.29 0.00 1.21
Enigma 03/19 0.88 0.00 0.88
DouglasW32 01/01 1.18 0.00 0.78
Nativenova 02/10 0.66 0.00 0.61
UltimateSelector 30/90 0.52 0.00 0.52
Anderon 13/73 0.55 0.38 0.50
Exactaplayer 02/24 0.46 0.00 0.46
Money 01/09 0.00 0.46 0.46
Chickenhead 01/06 0.25 0.00 0.25
Surfdog89 02/13 0.31 0.00 0.21
Fight 01/05 0.24 0.00 0.24
Shots 00/02 0.00 0.00 0.00
Shane 00/03 0.00 0.00 0.00
Raceisclosed 00/06 0.00 0.00 0.00

Following is the scoring breakdown, by race. Straight performance is listed first, then exotics: i.e., ($5/0; $2/0) would mean bet $5 lost on straight bet and lost $2 in exotics, etc.

Past-posted selections generally count as losers, while selections posted at post time get a dirty look from me. Also looks like a few of us are going to be voted off the island in a few races.

SATURDAY

Maxwell: Aqu1 ($2/0); Aqu 5 ($2/0); Aqu 9 ($2/0); OP2 ($2/9.60); OP5 ($2/0); OP7 ($2/0); OP11 ($2/0); Haw7 ($2/0);

Exactaplayer: Lrl3 ($2/0); SA4 ($2/0); SA6 ($2/0); SA9 ($2/0);
Me: o-for-everything

Ultimate Selector: Lrl3 ($2/11.40), Aqu4 ($2/0); GP4 ($2/0); Haw2 ($2/0); Haw3 ($2/0); Tam7 ($2/0); Pha8 ($2/$11.20); Haw4 ($2/0); Tam8 ($2/0); GP7 ($2/0); OP5 ($2/0); GG2 ($5/0); SA3 ($5/$5.50); Tam10 ($5/0); SA4 ($5/0); Haw7 ($5/0); Tam11 ($5/3.60); Tam12 ($5/0); Haw9 ($5/0); SA6 ($5/7.40); GG6 ($5/$9.30); SA8 ($5/0); GG8 ($5/8.40); Mnr2 ($5/0); SA9 ($5/0); Evd1 ($5/0); Mnr3 ($5/$5.20); Hou1 ($5/$16.80); Evd2 ($5/0); Mnr4 ($5/0); Hou2 ($5/0); CT6 ($5/0); Evd3 ($5/$12.00); Mnr5 ($5/0); Hou3 ($5/2.80); Evd4 ($5/0): Hou4 ($5/0); Pen6 ($5/0);

BigRed: Mnr7 ($2/$8.20);

JeffP: (6 races, 4-2, bet $600, collect $813.60 +$213.60)

Surfdog89: SA 10 ($2/0; $15/0); SA5 ($15/0).

Anderon: SA9 ($2/$13.00); Evd1 ($2/0); Mnr3 ($2/0);

SUNDAY:

Maxwell: Aqu2 ($2/0); Aqu9 ($2/0); TP3 ($2/0); TP4 ($2/0); ($4/33.40; $2/0); OP5 ($2/0); SA7 ($2/$7.60);

ROIHandicapping: Tam2 ($2/0; $24/0); Tam4 ($0; $32/0); Tam5 ($2/0; $24/0); Tam6 ($2/0; $24/0); Tam8 ($2/0; $24/0); Tam9 ($2/0; $24/0): TP2 ($24/$52.70); TP3 ($2/0; $24/0); TP6 ($2/0; $24/0); TP8 ($24/0); TP9 ($2/0; $24/0); OP5 ($24/0); OP7 ($32/0); OP8 ($32/$162.20); OP9 ($24/0); OP10 ($24/0); Mnr1 ($28/0); Mnr2 ($24/90.60); Mnr3 ($2/0; $32/0); Mnr4 ($24/0); Mnr5 ($48/845.30); Mnr6 ($2/0; $24/0); Mnr8 ($24/0); Mnr9 ($2/0; $52/0);

Exactaplayer: GP2 ($2/0); Lrl3 ($2/0); TP2 ($2/0); Aqu4 ($2/0); Lrl4 ($2/0);

Ultimate Selector: Pha3 ($5/0); Tam3 ($5/7.80); Pha4 ($5/9.20); Tam4 ($2/0); TP3 ($5/0); Tam5 ($5/0); Pha6 ($10/0; $2/0); Tam6 ($5/0); TP5 ($5/0); GP6 ($5/0); OP4 ($5/$4.00); Pha9 ($5/0); Tam9 ($5/0); Haw6 ($5/0); OP7 ($5/0); Tam11 ($5/4.20); SA5 ($5/4.00); Haw9 ($5/0); SA6 ($5/0); GG6 ($5/0); SA7 ($5/3.80); OP10 ($5/0); Hou3 ($5/0); Mnr1 ($5/12.20); SA8 ($12/13.40); Mnr2 ($5/0); SA9 ($5/2.60); Hou5 ($5/8.30); Mnr6 ($5/0); Hou8 ($5/0); Hou9 ($5/2.60); Mnr7 ($5/12.40); Hou10 ($5/0); Mnr8 ($5/0); Mnr9 ($5/0);

Surfdog89: SA1 ($2/0); SA2 ($4/0); SA4 ($4/0): SA6 ($4/0); SA7 ($4/0); SA8 ($2/2.80); SA9 ($2/0); GP9 ($4/0); GP7 ($4/0);

Nativenova: Aqu9 ($4/0; $2/0); SA3 ($2/0); SA7 ($2/0); Mnr8 ($2/0);

Anderon: Tam11 ($2/0); SA5 ($2/0); OP8 ($2/0); GG5 ($2/9.80);
Haw9 ($2/0); Hou1 ($2/0); SA6 ($2/0); OP9 ($2/0); GG6 ($2/0); SA7 ($2/$7.80); OP10 ($2/0); GG7 ($2/4.20); Mnr1 ($2/11.20); Mnr6 ($2/0); Hou8 ($2/0); Hou9 ($2/0); Mnr7 ($2/0); Hou10 ($2/0);

MONDAY

Money (all exotics): Pha1 ($4/0); Pha2 ($4/$34.00); Pha5 ($4/0): Pha7 ($4/0); Beu3 ($4/0); Beu5 ($4/0); Beu7 ($4/0); Beu8 ($4/0); Beu9 ($4/0); GP5 ($4/0); GP6 ($4/0); GP7 ($4/0); Haw2 ($4/0); Haw7 ($2/0); Haw8 ($4/0); Tup5 ($4/0); Tup6 ($4/0): Tup7 ($4/0); Tup9 ($4/0);

Nativenova: GP9 ($2/0); Haw4 ($2/0); Pha1 ($2/2.80); Pha4 ($2/0); Pha6 ($2/11.80); Pha9 ($2/4.00)

Ultimate Selector: Beu1 ($5/0); GP4 ($5/3.00); Beu4 ($5/0); Pha6 ($5/0); GP5 ($5/0); GP7 ($5/0); GP10 ($10/8.20; $2/0); Haw8 ($10/3.20; $2/0); Haw9 ($5/0); Tup7 ($5/5.60); Mnr2 ($5/0); Mnr3 ($5/5.80); Mnr4 ($5/0); Mnr6 ($5/9.60); Mnr7 ($5/0); Mnr8 ($5/0); Mnr9 ($5/14.80);

Chickenhead: Beu2 ($2/4.00); Beu3 ($2/0); Beu4 ($2/0); Beu5 ($2/0); Beu6 ($2/0); Beu9 ($6/0);

Surfdog89: Beu6 ($4/6.80); GP10 ($4/0);

Anderon: GP6 ($2/0); Haw4 ($2/0); Tup 2nd ($2/0); GP7 ($2/0); Pha9 ($2/0); Haw5 ($2/0); Tup3 ($2/4.60); GP8 ($2/0); Beu8 ($2/0); Pha10 ($2/0); Haw6 ($2/0); Tup4 ($2/0); GP9 ($2/0); Beu9 ($2/0); Haw7 ($2/0); Tup5 ($2/0); GP10 ($2/0); Haw8 ($2/0); Tup6 ($2/0); Haw9 ($2/4.40); Tup7 ($2/0); Tup8 ($2/0); Mnr9 ($2/0);

[Ultimate Selector!]

Race,

In checking my records I see that your records don't match mine. Could you please re-check the following and let me know why and/or make the corrections. For Saturday, (1) Laurels 3rd race #6 you scored the win but not the place and show. (2) Aquas 4th #8 you did not score the palce and show, (3) Gulfs 4th race #6 no score for the place and show. (4-5) Haws 3rd and Tampas 7th no show score. (6-7) Phillys 8th the#8 you scored the win but no place and show, Oak 5th #9 No place and show.

Sun
(1) Turf paradise 3rd #4 No score for the win, place or show. (2) oaks 8th the #3 no win, place or show score. (3) GG's 9th #4 No win, place,
or show score.

Please advise on these selections and to why they are not scored properly.
I appreciate it and thank you.
Respectfully,
Ultimate

[MONEY]

Picks for Feb. 28, 2006
Bet $1 ex. box first two picks, then a $1 ex. part wheel first pick over the 3rd & 4th picks. Cost only $4. per race. If top pick is scratched, skip the race.
BEULAH
R4.1-4-5-10
R5. 5-8-6-9
R6. 3-6-2-7
R7. 10-1-3-7
PHILADELPHIA
R2. 2-6-7-3
R10. 1-6-8-9
TAMPA
R4. 5-7-2-6
R5. 3-10-1-2
R6. 1-7-8-2
R8. 4-2-7-1
R10. 2-6-3-8
TURF PARADISE
R5. 7-5-4-3
R6. 6-7-8-2
R7. 5-9-6-3
R9. 2-6-1-7

[RaceIsClosed]

Race,

In checking my records I see that your records don't match mine. Could you please re-check the following and let me know why and/or make the corrections. For Saturday, (1) Laurels 3rd race #6 you scored the win but not the place and show. (2) Aquas 4th #8 you did not score the palce and show, (3) Gulfs 4th race #6 no score for the place and show. (4-5) Haws 3rd and Tampas 7th no show score. (6-7) Phillys 8th the#8 you scored the win but no place and show, Oak 5th #9 No place and show.

Sun
(1) Turf paradise 3rd #4 No score for the win, place or show. (2) oaks 8th the #3 no win, place or show score. (3) GG's 9th #4 No win, place,
or show score.

Please advise on these selections and to why they are not scored properly.
I appreciate it and thank you.
Respectfully,
Ultimate

Before you said how you bet, you were getting $2 to win on each horse you gave. After that, you said you bet $20/40/40 wps so you get $1 win $2 pl/show on those. Past-posted selections counted as losers (check the posting time versus the off time for each race).

Since your ROI is about $0.50, and since you've used up 90 races, I doubt it's going to matter much.

[nativenova]

TAM R 4 #6
TAM R 5 #5
TAM R 8 #3

PHI R 5 #6

WIN ONLY BETS

[Ultimate Selector!]

Before you said how you bet, you were getting $2 to win on each horse you gave. After that, you said you bet $20/40/40 wps so you get $1 win $2 pl/show on those. Past-posted selections counted as losers (check the posting time versus the off time for each race).

Since your ROI is about $0.50, and since you've used up 90 races, I doubt it's going to matter much.


If you go back and look at my statement you will see that I said and have always said $2.00 - $2.00 - $2.00 for w-p-s. Also if you wish to make this personal by making the statement it's not going to matter much then all I can say is that it seems that you are running this in a very unprofessional and biased manner.
Because what is right is RIGHT and what is wrong is WRONG! You are wrong on 10 count them 10! of my races that I got no credit for. Thats alot against my roi. My roi should be better than you have stated. I believe that it's not players like myself and Anderon (whos staements are honest and upfront like it or not) that are running players out of this. It is you and the way you call players out by being condescending and making it look like we don't know what we are doing or that we are cheating. That is ridiculous to think since this is suppose to fun and there is no monetary gain to be made in any of this. And since you don't want to correct the errors I wonder just what you how you have scored everyone else's. Can this whole thing be trusted scoring! But you go ahead Race and run this joke of a competition as you like because it really just does'nt matter to me!
Regards,
Ultimate!

[exactaplayer]

Hawthorne r3
2 win #1
5mtp

[Anderon]

Tampa Bay 7th $500 to win on #8

[exactaplayer]

hawthorne
Race 4
2 win bet #3
6mtp

[Anderon]

Philly 8th $500 to win on #1

[Anderon]

Make that $2000 to win on the #1 at Philly's 8th

[Anderon]

Hawthorne 4th $4,000 to win on the #2

[Anderon]

Turf Paradise $5,000 to win on the #3

[Anderon]

Tampa Bay 8th #3 #2,000 to win

[exactaplayer]

Turf paradise
Race 3
2 win bet #6
12 mtp

[exactaplayer]

TP race 3
$1 exa box 1/6
11 mtp

[Ultimate Selector!]

Tampa Bay 9th race #8 at (8-1) $200 to Win & $200 to Place

[exactaplayer]

turf paradise
race 7
2 win bet #7
Long time to post

[surfdog89]

Sunland Park Race 12 $2.00 to win and place #7 Strange Devil

[Anderon]

Tampa Bay 10th #8 $2500 to win

[Ultimate Selector!]

Tampa Bay 10th race #3 at (3-1) $200 to Win

[Anderon]

Turf Paradise 4th #3 $2500 To win

[Ultimate Selector!]

Beulah 9th race #9 at ( 16-1) $200 to win $200 to Place

[Anderon]

Beulah 9th #1 $2,500 to win

[Anderon]

Hawthorne 7th $5,000 to win #7

[Anderon]

Turf Paradise 5th $5,000 to win #5

[MONEY]

For those of you that dropped out of the contest (I know you're looking). You don't understand the contest. It is not who gets the highest ROI it is who gets a positive ROI period. Then those that have a positive ROI can get together & share information. The contest is fine the way it is. This way all of the bad players like myself and (you know who) get weeded out, and the good players would rise to the top. RaceIsClosed is doing a fine job in spite of all the negative personalities in this forum. Thank you to RaceIsClosed. One more thing Anderon, you are not the (you know who) I mentioned earlier. But, ACT YOUR AGE.

[Anderon]

Nice score ULTIMATE, we should have teamed up on that one for the exacta !! I would think that now puts you in the ROI lead !! :ThmbUp: Nice Job.

[Anderon]

Hawthorne 8th $10,000 to win #3

[Ultimate Selector!]

Nice score ULTIMATE, we should have teamed up on that one for the exacta !! I would think that now puts you in the ROI lead !! :ThmbUp: Nice Job.

Thank You! Anderon, I appreciate that!!. I see that we should have gotten 2gether on that one. very nice exacta also. I have been sandbaggin! :cool:

[nativenova]

TUP R 9 # 7

WIN ONLY

[Anderon]

Turf Paradise $10,000 win #2

[Anderon]

Ok it's time to step it up a little, I'm down a little bit today !! :mad:

Hawthorne 9th $15,000 to win on the #1

[ljb]

mnr
race 2
2 win #5
race 3
2 win #5
race 4
2 win #3

[Anderon]

Turf Paradise 7th $15,000 to win #5

[Anderon]

Sunland 9th $15,000 to win #8

[ryesteve]

Are you gonna be posting picks for Evangeline tonight? I figure by the time the night is over, you'll be up to at least a million bucks per race.

[Anderon]

Not to worry my bank account is still pretty full, but I will stay in the area of wagers. You might want to get on board with me soon as I'm starting to feel it now !! :ThmbUp:

[Anderon]

$20,000 to win on the #4 at Turf Paradise 8th

[Ultimate Selector!]

$20,000 to win on the #4 at Turf Paradise 8th


LOL Anderon, Nice score! I just don't want you to take over my ROI lead..:jump: Thats the way to come back!!

[Anderon]

Thanks Ultimate...But you better watch out now cause as I said earlier I'm starting to feel it !! :cool:

For all concerend, I'm going to back my wagers down a bit so I don't blow everyone away on ROI !!

[Ultimate Selector!]

Thanks Ultimate...But you better watch out now cause as I said earlier I'm starting to feel it !! :cool:

For all concerend, I'm going to back my wagers down a bit so I don't blow everyone away on ROI !!

Cool Anderon, I need some competition in here! But I will warn you now that I am waiting for my spot play again tonight somewhere. I will fire my same $200 and lap you so try and keep up with me... if you can... heh-heh. It's on now!
so you better bring it... :p My ROI for the day is 534% with 7 plays left till I reach my 100 picks! Like I said I was just sandbaggin. I will do it again tonight just wait and see!

[Anderon]

Turf Paradise 9th #1 $200 to win

[MONEY]

For those of you that think ONE LUCKY HIT will put you ahead.
READ THIS AND WEEP

Perhaps we can get an "elite" group out of this, who proves themselves profitable over time. Until we start killing our prices, let's spread the wealth.

My proposed rules are simple: everyone gets 100 *races* with which to prove themselves. Selections must be posted prior to the races (preferably at similar intervals so people get an idea of when to expect picks).

If the 100 races show a positive ROI (with CONSISTENT UNITS TO AVOID MARTINGDALES), then the poster stays in the club. If the ROI is break-even or profitable with rebates, they can stay on probation for another 100 picks, and so forth.

Hopefully this can also become a reliable way for the readers here to pick up some money on races they otherwise wouldn't play.

Anyone up for this?

[Anderon]

Moutaineer 1st $200 win on #6

[Anderon]

Moutaineer 2nd $500 to win #5

[Ultimate Selector!]

Mountaineer 2nd race #3 at (2-1) $200 to win

[Anderon]

Sunland 12th $500 to win #5

[Ultimate Selector!]

Mountaineer 3rd race #3 at (8-1) $200 to win & $200 to place

[Ultimate Selector!]

Mountaineer 5th race #8 at (11-1) $100 to win & place

[Ultimate Selector!]

Mountaineer 6th race #2 at (9-1) $100 to Win & Place

[Ultimate Selector!]

Mountaineer 7th race #4 at (8-1)

[Anderon]

Mountaineer 8th $500 to win #1

[Anderon]

I want another $500 to win on the 1 @ Moutaineers 8th

[Ultimate Selector!]

Mountaineer 8th race #5 at (9-1) $100 to Win $ Place

[Ultimate Selector!]

OK I am going to play my 100th pick in this next race at Mountaineer!
I will be the first one to play all my picks! Now lets see who can catch me!!! Pick to follow...:cool: Then I can be the quiet professional sitting on the sidelines waiting to see the cream come to the top! Lol...:lol: :D

[Ultimate Selector!]

Mountaineer MY Final Pick...9th Race #7 at (9-1) $200 to W & P

[Anderon]

Moutaineer 9th $500 to on the each #4 #6 #5

I'm canceling this wager

[Anderon]

Change that to 2,000 to win on the 4 at mtn 9th

[Ultimate Selector!]

mountaineer 9th the #7 200 w & P

[Anderon]

Hey Ultimate....DEJA VU :D You got me again, I had the 4 so once again we had the exacta. Great play for your 100th and final play of the competition !! Super job, what was your totals for the day by the way, I know you had 2 awesum winners at least !! I've got about 6 races left or so to get back in it, so your not safe just yet. :D :ThmbUp: :lol:
No you just go and be QUIET on the sidelines and be the consummate professional that you are !!

[Ultimate Selector!]

After they scratched the favorite I loved this play even better so I doubled up my bet as this was my last play of the competition!
Boooo Yaaaaa.......:cool:

[Ultimate Selector!]

Hey Ultimate....DEJA VU :D You got me again, I had the 4 so once again we had the exacta. Great play for your 100th and final play of the competition !! Super job, what was your totals for the day by the way, I know you had 2 awesum winners at least !! I've got about 6 races left or so to get back in it, so your not safe just yet. :D :ThmbUp: :lol:
No you just go and be QUIET on the sidelines and be the consummate professional that you are !!

Again I say Thank You! Anderon. I have enjoyed your professionalism and appreciation of the "Sport of Kings" I leave this competiton as I came in
a professional at what we do. I respect your game as well. You are a
worthy opponent and a fine sportsman who really understands the game!
I will now take my seat on the throne and watch you do your clean up work. I told you that I was sandbaggin earlier and I would do it again tonight! I will follow this up with my days report. Again, You actually made this fun and worthwhile over all the drama in here! I commend you!
Hace a great night I know I did. One day we will ahve to get together and play exactas! Heh-heh. We will be in touch my freind and I will be watching how all turns out in here!

Regards,
Ultimate :)

[Ron]

Are you guys hooking up now?

[MONEY]

I will now take my seat on the throne



I have a feeling that the only Throne you will be sitting on has a Flushometer.

[Ultimate Selector!]

Here is my is final report today!

Plays = 10

Wins = 2

Place = 2

Win Payoffs 1) $48.00 x 100 = $4,800 2) $21.40 x 200 = $4,280

Place Payoffs $15.40 = $1,540 $7.00 = $ 700

Outs = 8 Total = $1,806

ROI for the day.... 300% :jump::cool:

[Koko]

Get a few more emoticons to jump up and down, as some of our buzzards are kind of near-sighted and won't pick you carcasses up unless they can see you better.

Indeed, Anderon (end ur run) and Ultimate Selector, you are worthy competition for each other. Is there any way to make that sound like a compliment?

But really Ultimate Selector, how can you claim to be a professional player? That's really sad, we'll just pretend we never heard that OK. Kind of the Japanese "save face" mode, so you can walk out with your tail between your legs.

[PaceAdvantage]

Is there any reason why the combat factor is so high in this thread? I mean seriously, why does everyone have to have a problem with everything?

[Koko]

Really? In that case I'll delete this thread immediately.