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DJofSD
01-09-2006, 02:08 AM
Harry calls Bush "the greatest terrorist in the world." (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10767465/)
And he says the US media has got Chavez all wrong and millions of Americans support his revolution.
A la Jim Cramer: the US be pimpin' all over the world!
mainardi
01-09-2006, 02:28 AM
comes from "Rawhide", and it's what we should do with all those in love with Chavez and those like him:
So head 'em up, head 'em out,
Head 'em up, move 'em out,
Head 'em up, head 'em out Rawhide
Dick Schmidt
01-09-2006, 04:09 AM
Oh my gosh! Someone from the entertainment industry criticizing GWB? And a deep political thinker like Harry Belefonte? What is the world coming to??? I'm sure this will cause heads to roll in Washington.
Dick
I would like to take you seriously, but that would be an affront to your intelligence.
GaryG
01-09-2006, 06:40 AM
Well, HB is no kid, could be dementia settin in. More likely these are feelings he has held all his life (if not GWB fill in the name of US leader). Now he doesn't need to book any dates so he can call a spade a spade....sort of.
JustRalph
01-09-2006, 07:03 AM
He had Danny "the socialist" Glover with him..............
He had Danny "the socialist" Glover with him..............
Danny almost missed the meeting...couldn't get a cab! :D
I guess we have to take this serioulsy, though, if Harry Beleflunky is saying it.
Dey oh,
Dey oh,
Bush is bad an me wan go home!
Hey mister tally man, tally the insurgents,
Daylight come and we outta go home!
ta da!:lol:
PaceAdvantage
01-09-2006, 11:27 AM
millions of Americans support the socialist revolution of Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez.
And they criticized papa Bush for not knowing that supermarkets had automatic scanners? HE WAS OUT OF TOUCH? Compared to this guy Harry? :lol: :lol:
It truly boggles the mind....it really really really does....
JustRalph
01-09-2006, 11:36 AM
http://www.sp-usa.org/
GaryG
01-09-2006, 12:39 PM
http://www.sp-usa.org/
It is interesting to see a socialist org feature a photo of MLK. I used to have a photo taken at the Highlander School, a socialist training ground in Tracy TN, of MLK, Pete Seeger, Ralph Abernathy and Rosa Parks. Ms. Parks wasn't just some lady on her way home from work that day in B'ham. That whole incident was well choreographed by socialist leaders. JR, I think I just drowned in diversity.
Lefty
01-09-2006, 05:41 PM
Harry Belafonte was AARP's man of the year. I told you they were nothing but a liberal organization.
GaryG
01-09-2006, 06:14 PM
Harry Belafonte was AARP's man of the year. I told you they were nothing but a liberal organization.
These statements are way beyond liberalism, they are subversive. HB should be sent packing to some banana republic where the "revolutionaries" eat this crap up.
shanta
01-09-2006, 06:27 PM
Danny almost missed the meeting...couldn't get a cab! :D
I guess we have to take this serioulsy, though, if Harry Beleflunky is saying it.
Dey oh,
Dey oh,
Bush is bad an me wan go home!
Hey mister tally man, tally the insurgents,
Daylight come and we outta go home!
ta da!:lol:
:D :D
toetoe
01-09-2006, 07:08 PM
Please give Harry a break. With all that white blood in him, he's as evil as Adam Clayton Powell.
toetoe
01-09-2006, 07:14 PM
Millions in the U.S. support Chavez? :lol:
Bush a terrorist, and Chavez NOT a dictator? :lol:
Dolores Huerta, UFW founder and quite the terrorist herself, called it "a deep experience." Isn't that what Linda Lovelace said? :lol:
Let's just rename a street after Hugo Chavez and be done with it.
boxcar
01-09-2006, 07:18 PM
Millions in the U.S. support Chavez? :lol:
Bush a terrorist, and Chavez NOT a dictator? :lol:
Dolores Huerta, UFW founder and quite the terrorist herself, called it "a deep experience." Isn't that what Linda Lovelace said? :lol:
Let's just rename a street after Hugo Chavez and be done with it.
Here's a better one: HB was just named Man of the Year...I think by AARP, although I stand to be corrected.
Boxcar
Lefty
01-09-2006, 07:56 PM
That's right, Boxcar, but I pointed it out about 4 posts ago.
Millions in the U.S. support Chavez? :lol:
Bush a terrorist, and Chavez NOT a dictator? :lol:
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He's been Democratically elected 3 times. The most for any Democracy in the Western Hempishere.
Does anyone else wonder where and how the USA became adversarys of so many countries?
And is it only a coincidence that Venezuela is a BIG OIL country and they land on GWB's hit list?
Think beyond the Rhetoric and the Headlines please.
46zilzal
01-10-2006, 08:45 PM
lot's of logic therein
lsbets
01-10-2006, 08:49 PM
Suff - its pretty easy to get elected when your opposition isn't allowed to participate. Venezuela doesn't exactly qualify as a democracy when you take a close look at them. Unless that's what passes for democracy in Mass.
toetoe
01-10-2006, 08:49 PM
Okay, Suff, let's get demographically specific. Are you one of the MILLIONS in the U.S.A. that support Hugo Chavez? Is twice-elected George the mother of all terrorists? And, most important, did you ever momentarily forget lovely Connie Selleca and fantasize about getting with Shari Belafonte, right there on the "Hotel" register? :jump:
P.S. Put any thoughts of racial motive for Hurricane Harry out of your mind. Black folks are incapable of racism. I know because I was told this by an ignorant Mexican kid once.
Okay, Suff, let's get demographically specific. Are you one of the MILLIONS in the U.S.A. that support Hugo Chavez? .
I support many of his iniatives yes. I don't allow anyone or anything to demonize things for me. I don't need Belafonte to describe America or George Bush for me, and I don't need George Bush, You, or America to define Hugo Chavez for me.
I read and watch and make up my own mind.
Let me say this about George Bush and the War on terror and more specifically the War in Iraq. Do you remember the Ultimatum Bush gave Saddam Hussien in the days leading up to the War? He said.........."If Saddam Hussien Resigns then America will not Invade"
Now, any free thinking man would be reasonable to assume that means that once Hussien was out of power we would not be required to be there. However that has not happened.
I believe that George Bush gave the Biggest single phony Bomb Threat in the history of Mankind (except the Biblical one's).
Do you remember what he said?
"Mushroom Clouds over a Major American City could be Imminent"
Remember that?
How about
"A single Vile of Germ or another Biological agent could kill 100's of thousands on one of our Major Transit Systems".
George Bush did'nt LIE us into war......He Terrorized us into war.
Thats What I believe.
As far as Chavez. I'm 50/50 on him.
The central points of Chávez's Bolivarianism are:[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chavez#endnote_va3a)
1.Total Venezuelan sovereignty (anti-imperialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-imperialism)).2.Grassroots political participation via popular votes and referendums (participatory democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_democracy)).3.Comprehensive economic self-sufficiency (in food, consumer durables, et cetera).4.Instilling a national sentiment of patriotic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotism) service.5.Equitable distribution of Venezuela's vast oil revenues.6.Elimination of corruption (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_corruption).7.Elimination of puntofijismo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puntofijismo) by way of constitutional reforms.[68] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez#endnote_wilpert_27Aug2003)
Lefty
01-10-2006, 09:10 PM
suffsaysNow, any free thinking man would be reasonable to assume that means that once Hussien was out of power we would not be required to be there. However that has not happened:
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No, it didn't happen. Wonder why? Oh, oh, I got it. All the terrorists flowed in and started fighting us and the Iraquis who were glad to be free of Hussein.
Suff - its pretty easy to get elected when your opposition isn't allowed to participate. Venezuela doesn't exactly qualify as a democracy when you take a close look at them. Unless that's what passes for democracy in Mass.
George Bush would give his eye tooth if Iraq's democracy was half as Functional as Venezuela's.
Strange you find Iraq's extremely weak Democracy admirable and succesful, but one operating at a much higher level a poor example.
Remember, South America was run by Totalitarians and Dictators for over 100 years. Democracy has taken root there. Perhaps not in the form you or I would like........But like you say about Iraq. They are making progress..:ThmbUp:
lsbets
01-10-2006, 09:40 PM
No Sec, Venezuela has taken giant steps backwards under Chavez. Oppose him and you are silenced. That is not democracy by any stretch of the imagination, and there is nothing to be admired there.
and there is nothing to be admired there.
I dispute that.
Chávez made significant strides in his continuing domestic policy efforts in both 2003 and 2004. Namely, Chávez initiated such nationwide programs as Mission Guaicaipuro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Guaicaipuro) (launched on October 12 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_12), 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003) to protect indigenous peoples' livelihood, religion, land, culture and rights),
Mission Robinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Robinson) (launched in July 2003 to provide free reading, writing and arithmetic lessons to the more than 1.5 million Venezuelan adults who were illiterate prior to Chávez's 1999 election),
Mission Sucre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Sucre) (launched in late 2003 to furnish free and ongoing higher education (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_education) to the two million adult Venezuelans who had not completed their elementary-level education),
Mission Ribas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Ribas) (launched November 2003 in order to provide remedial education and diplomas for Venezuela's five million high school dropouts). The impact of such programs were widely felt throughout Venezuela, to the extent that on the first anniversary of Mission Robinson's establishment, and to an audience of 50,000 formerly illiterate Venezuelans, Chávez stated in Caracas's Teresa Carreńo theater that "it was truly a world record: in a year, we have graduated 1,250,000 Venezuelans".
Not to mention....he has used Oil Revenues to build bridge's , highways, tunnels, schools and a multitude of other infrastructure projects that improve the quality of life for millions of Citizens.
toetoe
01-10-2006, 10:05 PM
So, Chavez has used national revenues to improve infrastructure. That as disproof of dictatorial behavior, together with $1, will get me a New York Times. Also, your quasi-syllogism about freethinkers does not preclude me, rumored to be a freethinker, from believing the opposite of the man in your example. He aspires to being a BENIGN dictator, but you won't even give him that, I guess. Even Lula in Brasil, for years and years a bridesmaid, finally grew up when he became president. He assuages Castro and Chavez, but I believe he tears his hair out upon hearing their rhetoric. I daresay theirs is more inflammatory than even mine. :eek:
So, Chavez has used national revenues to improve infrastructure. That as disproof of dictatorial behavior, :eek:
I'm 50/50 on the guy. I told you that. Your 100% against him I assume?
Where do you stand on the New Iraqi Oil Minister? Chalibi. Suspected of Being a Double agent for Iran. Sat Behind Laura Bush at the 2003 State of the Union. Later that year his offices were raided by US forces for conspiring with Iran. Went into hiding, and reemerged last month as the New Iraqi Oil Minister.
Give me a lil relativism on that one. Moral Relativism.
toetoe
01-10-2006, 10:36 PM
I want you to say he's a dictator. I agree that's a label, but I think as he's a powerful leader, it's relevant to find the right label. Chalabi would love to be a dictator, and maybe you'd dismiss him as a bad one if he were in Chavez' shoes. You don't need my rhetoric, but the exchange of ideas is facilitated by rhetoric-swapping. It's not bodily fluids, fer gosh sake.
I want you to say he's a dictator. I agree that's a label, but I think as he's a powerful leader, it's relevant to find the right label. Chalabi would love to be a dictator, and maybe you'd dismiss him as a bad one if he were in Chavez' shoes. You don't need my rhetoric, but the exchange of ideas is facilitated by rhetoric-swapping. It's not bodily fluids, fer gosh sake.
Who said this?
"This would be a heck of a lot easier if this were a Dictatorship". "As Long as I was The Dictator"
George Bush
2003.
Question for you?
What is he refering to when he begins the sentence with "this"
I won't call Chavev a Dictator because I don't know enough about the exact machinations of thier electoral process. I doubt the process is something I would approve of. But as I mentioned.....They're improving.
toetoe
01-10-2006, 11:01 PM
First "this" means "this job," I suppose.
The best thing about our system is that Pres. Cheney, er, I mean Bush can't be a dictator. Chavez, Fujimori, "El Loco" in Bolivia (or was it Ecuador?) --- for better or worse, once they consolidate their power, sine qua non, they're dead, then the temptation to just go ahead and become king is overpowering. Understandable, but terrifying to students of human nature and history.
First "this" means "this job," I suppose.
The best thing about our system is that Pres. Cheney, er, I mean Bush can't be a dictator. .
I can't give you a free pass on glorifying this administration. They operate in ways similiar to some dictatorships. The viel of secrecy alarms me. The deceptions alarm me.
Quick example. In Dictatorships as you know, when the Leaders get sick, or have a heart attack and are ambulanced to the hospital....the Citizenery are simply told "he has the the Flu". The guy could be in a COMA and the Public is told... "he's in for a check up".
Dick Cheney goes out at 3 in the Morning to the Hospital and we're told its nothing. It's related to a foot problem. The Press asks Scott Mcellan what the Foot Problem is and he denys to amplify. He stonewalls and ends by saying any information on Cheneys Health must be obtained by the VP's office. The VP's office does no Press conferences and refuses to tell us what is wrong with the guy.
It's small, and maybe unimportant. But the whole tone of secrecy really bugs me.
I think I have a right to know the Health Condition of the #2 man in line to run the country.
Openness
toetoe
01-10-2006, 11:23 PM
In one sense, I feel for Chavez. He hosted that flesh-and-blood flaming troll, Harry Belafonte. A sh&t-talking punkass fool that I will boycott if I ever discover that he set foot in South Africa. At least Hugo gets better treatment than the poor old pawn Rosa Parks ever did. She got trotted out every time Cesar Chavez wanted a good photo op, or Dolores Huerta got billy-clubbed. Please tell me Harry Faulty-Reasoner did NOT speak at Rosa's funeral. Please. :bang:
In one sense, I feel for Chavez. He hosted
Tagging along was an esteemed group of Princeton's acedemics.
You've heard of Princeton? Alito's alma mater.
Doubt if any CAP members went though.
"yes I put down that I was a member of CAP" "But I don't remember joining nor attending meetings". Like Skull & Bones.
Concerned Alumni of Princeton. Main agenda. Stoping admission of Women to Princeton.
I smoked it but did'nt inhale. I joined but don't remember, and don't recall attending meetings...... same stuff.
They're all complicit because no self-respecting Harvard or Yale man will sell out a private club for fear of retribution. Princeton btw is Triple A of the IVY leaguers. Not the Big Leagues like they'd have you believe. Its in New Jersey for christ sakes.
toetoe
01-10-2006, 11:50 PM
I'll agree with all but the charge of glorification. I "glorified" the system, saying it was "administration-proof."
I'll agree with all but the charge of glorification. I "glorified" the system, saying it was "administration-proof."
inclined to agree. Presently. But chip chip chip away and who knows what 20, 50 or a 100 years brings.
toetoe
01-10-2006, 11:55 PM
I'm sure you've known of the secret horrors of the Ivy League Schools your live-long adult life, Suff. If the Bushes went to Yale, that's enough. They're elitists unfit to rule in a democracy, right? No, I'm NOT going to ask how many Kerrys, Kennedys, etc. went to Ivy League Schools. I'll simply ask what can we do?
PaceAdvantage
01-11-2006, 01:30 AM
Dick Cheney goes out at 3 in the Morning to the Hospital and we're told its nothing. It's related to a foot problem. The Press asks Scott Mcellan what the Foot Problem is and he denys to amplify. He stonewalls and ends by saying any information on Cheneys Health must be obtained by the VP's office. The VP's office does no Press conferences and refuses to tell us what is wrong with the guy.
Yup, and Clinton's major heart problems magically appeared after he was out of office....and Reagan's Alzheimer magically appeared as soon as he was out of office....yup, this administration is the only one who has tried to cover up health troubles....yup....right....
rastajenk
01-11-2006, 05:29 AM
When Clinton was banging chubby interns, it was all about the President still maintaining some privacy. Now its openness. If a minor ailment isn't private, what is...besides banging interns?
So Belefonte disses bush. Big deal.
How'bout bush dissing those who disagree with King George?
"Mr. Bush said Americans should insist on a debate "that brings credit to our democracy, not comfort to our adversaries."
Huh?
United States Constitution, Article III, Section 3,
Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
Gee sounds like he is calling us traitors
Yer wit us or agen Us
Yer wit us or agen Us
Yer wit us or agen Us
911-911-911-911
Blah blah blah
So Hitler built the Autobon...does that mean we should respect him for that?
I should not by 100% against Hitler because he built a world-class road?
Lefty
01-11-2006, 11:36 AM
Tom, don't forget he also mandated the VW.
Y'know, Harry hates us, loves Venezuala but don't see him moving out of his posh neighborhood and moving to Venezuela. Too bad.
Lefty
01-11-2006, 11:39 AM
hcap, why are you libs so damned determined to minimize 9-11? I know, you just can't stand the Pres being so damned right and your socialist party, so damned wrong. I get it.
toetoe
01-11-2006, 01:48 PM
hcap,
Bush is in the discussion only insofar as he is a terrorist. Other than that, no one responding to Hairball Belafonte is interested in Bush. As to Hitler, Mussolini, Leni Riefenstahl, Wagner, etc. --- the fighters of the good fight will say nothing they ever did was good. Oh, if life were so simple! :jump: All of us simpletons would rule.
delayjf
01-11-2006, 03:22 PM
So Hitler built the Autobon...does that mean we should respect him for that? :lol: :lol:
Tom,
Outstanding, I can't stop laughing
speedking
01-11-2006, 08:13 PM
Headlining tomorrow at The Childrens Defense Fund's 2006 Winter Benefit:
Hillary Clinton and Belafonte.
You know her people are already cringing at the thought of the questions that will be forthcoming.
speedking
Tom, don't forget he also mandated the VW.
Y'know, Harry hates us, loves Venezuala but don't see him moving out of his posh neighborhood and moving to Venezuela. Too bad.
I just love the way the Hollywiedos throw stones from thier ivory towers. The libs are always bashing the rich, but the uber-rich sure do have a lot of libs in thier numbers. Has Babs S ever "biotched' about her not paying SS on her full earnings? That little tax loophole is not so bad when it helps her bottom line.
toetoe
01-11-2006, 09:45 PM
King,
The saving grace is that she's of gender, he's of color, so she'll pull through.
toetoe
01-11-2006, 10:02 PM
Babra's "bottom line" needs some help.
When Clinton was banging chubby interns, it was all about the President still maintaining some privacy. Now its openness. If a minor ailment isn't private, what is...besides banging interns?
Do you & PA view Politics as a Sport? Your the Dallas Cowboys and the democrats are the Arizona Cardinals?
And the way that you win is to compete with dueling scores against one another?
I was not a member of this board during Clintons administration, and have not made any comparisons to Clinton based on Bush's conduct. I have said frequently I did'nt care for Clinton. Although it would'nt matter if I did.
I'm an independent thinker who at this point could give two F's what Bill Clinton did because he aint running the country.
#1 Sexual Conduct and 3 AM ambulance runs are not equitable.
#2 I have no interest in any politicians sexual conduct.
#3 No one knows what is wrong with the VP, CUZ they will not say.
But I admire your guess as a minor ailment. Good verbage. I bet...That you would'nt bet $50 on your diagnosis because you have no clue what it is. However it was a "score" for your team to make up the term minor ailment so you went ahead and did it, and I suppose it felt good.
I however deal in reality. It's not sport, it's not a game, certainly not a guessing game.
So if you knew what was wrong with Chenney, what the heck would you do?
No matter matter what, it is what it is, and our knowing about it will affect is in no way. So who cares? The people that NEED to know do, and that is what we pay them for.
This public's right to know everything is pretty absurd.
(pssst! Didjya hear? FDR is in a wheelchair!!!):p
Lefty
01-12-2006, 11:29 AM
suff, did you know that Clinton is the only Pres that would not release his medical records while he was a candidate?
So if you knew what was wrong with Chenney, what the heck would you do?
Feel like I live with an open Government.
Lefty
01-12-2006, 11:41 AM
suff, we knew Cheney had heart probs before he was elected. Clinton kept his medical records secret. Who was most open?
suff, did you know that Clinton is the only Pres that would not release his medical records while he was a candidate?
I was not a member of the board when Clinton was President. I'm not sure why people keep comparing Bush's faults with one of Clintons.:confused:
What does it mean when you say it? That they both suck? That it is OK if one President you hated did it so now the one you like can also do it?
If it Bothered you to the point that 6 years later you continue to say it then you must have found it less than open and uncomfortable. So if that is the case then you may feel equally deprived by this administration.
The Clinton comparisons are dumbfounding. I'm not related to Bill Clinton in any way?
Lefty
01-12-2006, 11:45 AM
suff says: The Clinton comparisons are dumbfounding. I'm not related to Bill Clinton in any way?
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Not dumbfounding in pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.
Nobody said you were related that I can remember.
suff says: The Clinton comparisons are dumbfounding. I'm not related to Bill Clinton in any way?
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Not dumbfounding in pointing out the hypocrisy of the left.
Nobody said you were related that I can remember.
The Hypocrisy of the left? I'm Mike Dudley. I'm righthanded. I don't represent anyone but me. You have no clue on how anyone on this Board came down on Clinton withholding medical records or abusing executive power for that matter.
This is not Hannity and Colmes. I'm a horse player with a strong interest in Politics, Govt, and the USA. Nothing more.
Stop playing badminton poltics. He did that, he did this, well your guy did that.
First of all I have no Guy, or side. I'm a registered Independent.
Second of all, they do that shit on TV because it sells advertising. Don't confuse what your doing as Poltical dialogue. your simply mimmicking people who get paid millions to get you to watch (and in your case, bite)
Lefty
01-12-2006, 11:58 AM
Yeah, suff, you;'re a great independent thinker that always comes down aquarely on the side of the left. I'm playing badminton politics and you're thinking independently. Okay, dokey.
So if we say Clinton did wiretaps in peacetime while the left trying to hang Bush for making wiretaps on the enemy in wartime, we're not allowed to point that out, cause that's badminton politics. LOL
Yeah, suff, you;'re a great independent thinker that always comes down aquarely on the side of the left. I'm playing badminton politics and you're thinking independently. Okay, dokey.
So if we say Clinton did wiretaps in peacetime while the left trying to hang Bush for making wiretaps on the enemy in wartime, we're not allowed to point that out, cause that's badminton politics. LOL
For what reason would you point it out? Hyprocisy again? LOL.
You seem to want me and others on the defensive. Where i have to explain that I have mnay times denounced Clinton on the Board and Yada yada yada yada yada... and I just won't let you do it.
I'm Left leaning....on all Policy. regardless of Party. I have no affection for a party!:lol: :lol: I have affection for my ideas, my principles, my beliefs. I don't represnt anyone but myself. So your constant pounding of a guy who was president two terms ago is meaningless to me. Its garbage. You did'nt know me then. Your taking a Posistion that I'm alan colmes and your sean hannity and it is your job to VOMIT negativity toward me because I'm "with" the Democrats. I'm not with anyone. So it is difficult to engage in any Poltical conversation with you when I say:
I object to Bush Wire Tapping without a Warrant and you say
"Clinton did it"...
Its really asinine to be honest with you.
Stop it.
PaceAdvantage
01-12-2006, 12:42 PM
Suff, you brought up the medical records. I'm just pointing out that this is nothing new, and that prior administrations did not take any heat for similar conduct, so why the heat now?
Suff, you brought up the medical records. I'm just pointing out that this is nothing new, and that prior administrations did not take any heat for similar conduct, so why the heat now?
I brought up Openess in Govt. You brought up unopeness in Previous adminstrations as if to debunk my view. I don't care who it is. We operate on a transparent, check and balance Govt. Period. I have no time or inclination to debate what previous administrations did.
boxcar
01-12-2006, 12:46 PM
Suff, you brought up the medical records. I'm just pointing out that this is nothing new, and that prior administrations did not take any heat for similar conduct, so why the heat now?
Because now it goes against his "left leaning ideas", whereas before with the DEMS, it didn't. :D
Boxcar
PaceAdvantage
01-12-2006, 12:50 PM
Precedent is an important issue, in my book anyway....
Precedent is an important issue, in my book anyway....
Fine ...If Clinton withheld Vital medical information that would have effected peoples confidence in him then he was wrong. But I don't get where two wrongs make a right? That part puzzles me.
I don't recall Clinton being taken away by Ambulance at an odd hour of the morning. But perhaps you have a recollection of something I don't.
PaceAdvantage
01-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Getting back on topic:
Do you think that Belafonte's latest statement was responsible? Do you think it contributes to the world's negative view of America which you cited in another post?
Most importantly, do you think it's an accurate statement?
Getting back on topic:
Do you think that Belafonte's latest statement was responsible? Do you think it contributes to the world's negative view of America which you cited in another post?
Most importantly, do you think it's an accurate statement?
harry belafonte? I had'nt heard his name in 20 years. he's no more relevant to me than Joey Butafucco.
I care little where Harry belfonte goes or what he says. Nor am I obliged to take a stand on it.
The mans free to come and go as he pleases and say whatever he wants.
betchatoo
01-12-2006, 01:24 PM
suff, we knew Cheney had heart probs before he was elected. Clinton kept his medical records secret. Who was most open?
My bad. When they told me Cheney had a bum heart I didn't realize it had anything to do with his medical condition
Lefty
01-12-2006, 06:59 PM
suff says Its really asinine to be honest with you.
Stop it.
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Not asinine to point out the hypocrisy. The left didn't make a fuss about Clinton doing it but have trouble with Bush doing it to protect this country. It's the left that's asinine.
And no, I won't stop it. Avert your eyes.
toetoe
01-12-2006, 07:39 PM
Let's get beyond the shuttlecock diplomacy and concentrate on assassinating Harry HellifIknow's so-called character. :cool:
. Avert your eyes.
done and done. Ditto please
Originally posted by TomSo if you knew what was wrong with Chenney, what the heck would you do?
No matter matter what, it is what it is, and our knowing about it will affect is in no way. So who cares?"According to the WaHoPo, Cheney is limping today because he injured his foot. Cheney said 'If you think
my foot looks bad, you should see the old lady I was kicking.'"
--Conan O'Brien
Lefty
01-13-2006, 11:21 AM
suff, can't oblige with the ditto cause I never told you to stop.
lsbets
01-24-2006, 10:29 AM
Quick follow up, on Januray 10th, AARP released the following statement:
"Today, AARP issued the following statement in response to remarks made by Harry Belafonte.
Last year, AARP The Magazine recognized Harry Belafonte for his work in serving as a Goodwill Ambassador for UNICEF since 1987.
To our dismay, Mr. Belafonte has made reckless and irresponsible statements about the President of the United States which we neither support nor condone. Mr. Belafonte is entitled to express his own personal views, but AARP does not condone the manner and tone which he has chosen and finds his comments completely unacceptable."
http://www.aarp.org/research/press-center/presscurrentnews/harry_belafonte_comments.html
DJofSD
01-24-2006, 11:28 PM
Interesting.
Why would AARP back peddle and distance themselves like that? Are they afraid the 55+ year old conservatives going to quit they membership?
Lefty
01-25-2006, 01:07 AM
Maybe. It was reported a lot of people cancelled their membership.
highnote
01-25-2006, 02:55 AM
When Clinton was banging chubby interns, it was all about the President still maintaining some privacy. Now its openness. If a minor ailment isn't private, what is...besides banging interns?
Did you really want to know the details of that! :eek:
highnote
01-25-2006, 03:27 AM
Well, HB is no kid, could be dementia settin in. More likely these are feelings he has held all his life (if not GWB fill in the name of US leader). Now he doesn't need to book any dates so he can call a spade a spade....sort of.
I've heard that saying "call a spade a spade". I've always wondered what it means. Is that like calling a chair a chair? It never made sense to me. Anyone know the origin of that phrase?
Sorry if I sound stupid (maybe I am :D ), but I don't understand your sentence "Now he doesn't need to book any dates so he can call a spade a spade... sort of." GWB doesn't need to book dates or HB doesn't need to?
rastajenk
01-25-2006, 04:42 AM
Do you & PA view Politics as a Sport? Your the Dallas Cowboys and the democrats are the Arizona Cardinals?
And the way that you win is to compete with dueling scores against one another?
I was not a member of this board during Clintons administration, and have not made any comparisons to Clinton based on Bush's conduct. I have said frequently I did'nt care for Clinton. Although it would'nt matter if I did.
I'm an independent thinker who at this point could give two F's what Bill Clinton did because he aint running the country.
#1 Sexual Conduct and 3 AM ambulance runs are not equitable.
#2 I have no interest in any politicians sexual conduct.
#3 No one knows what is wrong with the VP, CUZ they will not say.
But I admire your guess as a minor ailment. Good verbage. I bet...That you would'nt bet $50 on your diagnosis because you have no clue what it is. However it was a "score" for your team to make up the term minor ailment so you went ahead and did it, and I suppose it felt good.
I however deal in reality. It's not sport, it's not a game, certainly not a guessing game.
Mr. Cheney seems to be getting around all right, so it must have been, no, make that, it's highly likely to have been, a "minor ailment." It does feel good. Your last sentence quoted above is ludicrous. I'm guessing (but I'm right); you're dealing in reality (but you're wrong). Seems kind of inverted to me, but I'm just guessing.
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