Ann Coulter finally admits it

[46zilzal]

Conservative columnist Ann Coulter cut short a speech at the University of Connecticut amid boos and jeers, and decided to hold a question-and-answer session instead.

"I love to engage in repartee with people who are stupider than I am," Coulter told the crowd of 2,600 Wednesday.

Before cutting off her speech after about 15 minutes, Coulter called Bill Clinton an "executive buffoon" who won the presidency only because Ross Perot took 19 percent of the vote.

Coulter's appearance prompted protests from several student groups. About 100 people rallied outside the auditorium where she spoke, saying she spread a message of intolerance.

"We encourage diverse opinion at UConn, but this is blatant hate speech," said Eric Knudsen, a 19-year-old sophomore.

[Lefty]

46, they wouldn't give her a chance to spk. Liberals are famous for this. They used to do the same thing to Clarence Thomas. This is fascist behavour.

[GameTheory]

What did she admit?

All this shows is that young liberals don't believe in free speech, but then we already knew that...

[46zilzal]

people believe in free speech. I recall listening to an even greater NUT bar than this one (George Lincoln Rockwell head of the American Nazi Party) and he got heckled, but he gave his talk.

[JustRalph]

What did she admit?

All this shows is that young liberals don't believe in free speech, but then we already knew that...

During the heckling she lost her mind and kept muttering

"where is Justralph when I need him, Oh Ralph ! "

It was caught on tape............I swear!

[GameTheory]

people believe in free speech. I recall listening to an even greater NUT bar than this one (George Lincoln Rockwell head of the American Nazi Party) and he got heckled, but he gave his talk.Yeah, people do, but large numbers of kids on college campuses don't. George Lincoln Rockwell would be held in higher esteem than Ann Coulter on the average campus, and I say that completely seriously. Fidel Castro would actually be cheered. Conservative speakers are routinely shouted down on campuses (on those rare instances where they book them in the first place and then don't cancel them after the initial liberal protests which attempt to keep them from even appearing at all), with the full support of the university administration I might add.

The heart of modern liberalism is anti-free speech, and anti-democracy; and that is the major reason I can no longer consider myself a liberal. [When I was in college myself, I thought I was a liberal -- pro-free speech, pro-equal opportunity, anti-racist, etc -- until I discovered that today's liberals don't actually believe in any of those things. Of course I also discovered I'm not a modern conservative either.] They don't believe in free exchange of ideas, and they never want anything put to a vote (cause they know they'll lose, and that is why the left is so obsessed with the Supreme Court justices -- leftist judges who don't have to act democratically are their only hope).

[schweitz]

The story:

www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-coulter1208.artdec08,0,2591762.story?&track=rss

[46zilzal]

a closed mind is a terrible thing to waste.

every decade has a "trash" term where everyone is placed. In the fifties it was "beatnik" and the sixtes "hippy" so the catch word today is "liberal" without realizing there is diversity in every point of view.

[schweitz]

How CNN reports the Coulter incident:

http://newsbusters.org/node/3128

No wonder they have a shrinking audience.

[GaryG]

The only thing she admitted is that she was talking to a typical group of college liberals. Diversity is what they seek, but only the right kind of diversity you see...Maybe they can find a black woman with a spanish surname who is a socialist revolutionary and also a lesbian. Run her for bleepin president!

[Overlay]

George Lincoln Rockwell would be held in higher esteem than Ann Coulter on the average campus, and I say that completely seriously. Fidel Castro would actually be cheered. Conservative speakers are routinely shouted down on campuses (on those rare instances where they book them in the first place and then don't cancel them after the initial liberal protests which attempt to keep them from even appearing at all), with the full support of the university administration I might add.

Not to split ideological hairs over equally repugnant philosphies, but aren't Nazism (Rockwell) and communism (Castro) technically at opposite ends of the political spectrum, with Nazism being far-right and Communism being far-left? Or perhaps they're both so far to the extreme that they meet coming around the circle.

[lsbets]

Not to split ideological hairs over equally repugnant philosphies, but aren't Nazism (Rockwell) and communism (Castro) technically at opposite ends of the political spectrum, with Nazism being far-right and Communism being far-left? Or perhaps they're both so far to the extreme that they meet coming around the circle.

The Nazi Party is the National Socialist Party - the heart of their ideology, aside from the racial hatred - is socialsim. Naziism's big problem with communism stems from Marx having been born a Jew, so they saw communism as a Jewish plot. The Nazi philosophy is decidedly left of center. Both philosophies are on the same end of the political spectrum.

[46zilzal]

Yeah, people do, but large numbers of kids on college campuses don't. George Lincoln Rockwell would be held in higher esteem than Ann Coulter on the average campus, and I say that completely seriously. Fidel Castro would actually be cheered. Conservative speakers are routinely shouted down on campuses (on those rare instances where they book them in the first place and then don't cancel them after the initial liberal protests which attempt to keep them from even appearing at all), with the full support of the university administration I might add.



and you KNOW this from your vast experience AT a university campus? It was my university experience that I met the most open minded people in my life there.

[GameTheory]

and you KNOW this from your vast experience AT a university campus?I don't know about VAST, but I was in college myself from 1988-1992 (not THAT long ago) and can definitely say that the experience was one of "leftist indoctrination" and not open-mindedness. Challenges to leftist thought would get you in trouble with the professors and quite possibly lower grades. And that is the only experience I ever hear about from students today. I certainly never hear "I got in trouble for being a liberal" or "I felt out of place with my liberalism on campus". I knew this guy who was involved with the "Young Republicans" -- the amount of hassle and grief he would take was unbelievable. And these stories about right-minded speakers having their appearances cancelled or being shouted down once they got there are quite common. Who was the last leftist to be shouted down on campus?

It was my university experience that I met the most open minded people in my life there.Are you talking about when you attended university, or some other occasion? If you are speaking of your own experience attending school, that was quite some time ago, no? Things weren't always this way...

[lsbets]

GT - the other question is what is 46s definition of openmindedness. Is his definition one who has "progressive political thoughts"? If that is the case, than yes, your university experience (and mine) were bastions of open mindedness.

[46zilzal]

our university experiences were DAY and NIGHT then

[GameTheory]

our university experiences were DAY and NIGHT thenDates please. When?

[46zilzal]

Dates please. When?
what does that matter?

[GameTheory]

what does that matter?So we know what you're talking about. If you went college in the 50's or early 60's, then DUH, it was different then. We are talking about the university TODAY. If you went to college in the 90's (and I know you didn't) then your experience would have some relevance to the discussion...

[kenwoodallpromos]

The first 4 letters of Diversity is DIVE! :D

[46zilzal]

HINT: Lew Alcindor and I had several classes together, before I went to graduate school and then into medicine.

[GameTheory]

HINT: Lew Alcindor and I had several classes together, before I went to graduate school and then into medicine.Ok, so now tell us why you might think that the university atmosphere in 1967ish would be the same as 2005? After all, nothing else has changed since then, right?

[46zilzal]

Ok, so now tell us why you might think that the university atmosphere in 1967ish would be the same as 2005? After all, nothing else has changed since then, right?
I stay in touch with many students and my wife teaches...I do not know where you attended school, but the students I am in contact with are not as you describe...May be a regional thing

[46zilzal]

there is NOTHING in this life so assured to take place as CHANGE. Don't have Mockenberg's medial calcific sclerosis in the Circle of Willis just yet...

[Lefty]

46, they drowned her out with boom boxes. And you expect her to finish? That's open minded?
At the same college Cindy Sheehan was due to speak, don't remember if it was before or after Ann on diff day, but you can bet your life she wasn't shouted dn and drowned out by Repub students. BTW, Cindy says this country isn't worth defending and you think Ann is guilty of hate speech? You don't know the diff b'tween irreverent humor and hate speech, and neither do most of your ilk. And I find it interesting that most liberals don't like to be called liberals. Fascinating...

[GameTheory]

I stay in touch with many students and my wife teaches...I do not know where you attended school, but the students I am in contact with are not as you describe...May be a regional thingThe students are largely sheep -- the faculty encourages this sort of behavior....

[Steve 'StatMan']

Back in the 60's, the faculties and staffs were concerned about the changes and behaviors of the students and the war protests, much of which was new types of behavior during a very difficult time. Now those former students ARE the faculty and staff, and their background and views and understandings of 'normal' student life will obviously reflect their own backgrounds.

[46zilzal]

The students are largely sheep -- the faculty encourages this sort of behavior....
encourages? folks make up their own minds don't they? If not I don't want to know them.

[JustRalph]

encourages? folks make up their own minds don't they? If not I don't want to know them.

yep, when those pretty freshman get bedded by a professor, I am sure they had no undue influence..........those girls make up their own minds, dontcha Know!

[Lefty]

Cindy Sheehan spoke 2 days earlier without incident. Pretty much shows who's really interested in free speech and who the fascists are.

[Dave Schwartz]

GT,

When I was in college myself, I thought I was a liberal -- pro-free speech, pro-equal opportunity, anti-racist, etc -- until I discovered that today's liberals don't actually believe in any of those things.

I am reminded of an old friend of mine whose wife was an ultra-liberal, ultra-feminist (a deadly combination). About his now ex-wife he said, "You know for someone who is supposed to be into peace and love, she hates more people than anyone I know."


Regards,
Dave Schwartz

[GameTheory]

I am reminded of an old friend of mine whose wife was an ultra-liberal, ultra-feminist (a deadly combination). About his now ex-wife he said, "You know for someone who is supposed to be into peace and love, she hates more people than anyone I know."
There are liberals and then there are activist liberals who are really "into" liberalism -- they are part of the liberal scene, if you will. Run-of-the-mill liberals vote left of center and the rest of the time don't think too much about politics, although they have an irrational fear of Republicans because they've eaten up the propaganda from the left. These people are often quite delightful, make good friends, etc.

But there are some things I've noticed about the activist types. They usually start out as quite delightful, but then as they get more and more into liberal politics, they become angrier and angrier, become generally unhappy, lose all sense of humor, and most devastatingly completely lose their imagination. They really do seem to turn into angry robots. Quite sad. A number of people I liked quite a bit when I was younger went down this road and became truly dreadful people.

Of course, extreme right-wingers are destroyed as well, but in different ways. Extremism kills, people.

[46zilzal]

Extremism kills, people.
BINGO

[Tom]

Intolerance?

You bet.
We are intolerant of the liberal cancer that is destryoing our freeodms.

Hate Speech?

Of course.

I hate the liberal mindset and I hate POS's like John Kerry who spread it around.

The first post here shows just how liberal work - THEY are the one trying to stiffle free speech and blame US for it.

How about HATE CRIMES! Somehow it is worse to kill somebody because he is black than to kill somebody at random?!?!?! I would rather be killed by someone who hated me than someone who didn't even know me! Sheez!

College campuses have always been breeding grounds for stupidity pretending to be a quest for knowledge and conformity disguised as independence..

[NoDayJob]

College campuses have always been breeding grounds for stupidity pretending to be a quest for knowledge and conformity disguised as independence..

I'm sure Lonnie Aurbach, and Mario Savio if he were alive, would agree with you.

People's Park Riots and Free Speech Movement.

NDJ [AKA Troll #1]