View Full Version : Jewish leader blasts religious right
Here is an interesting story. This guy makes some good points.
Snippet:
Yoffie said liberals and conservatives share some concerns, such as the potential damage to children from violent or highly sexual TV shows and other popular media. But he said, overall, conservatives too narrowly define family values, making a "frozen embryo in a fertility clinic" more important than a child, and ignoring poverty and other social ills.
link:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051120/ap_on_re_us/reform_jews_conservatives;_ylt=AprTFk47q6SuQKkkusy qIYCs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3b2NibDltBHNlYwM3MTY-
JustRalph
11-20-2005, 01:36 PM
Is yahoo news being run by Howard Dean nowadays? That article is full of shit...........what a joke. Starts off comparing conservatives to Hitler. yeah, right.
I like this quote from the article:
"Yoffie also urged lawmakers to model themselves on presidential candidate John F. Kennedy, who famously told a Houston clergy group in 1960 that a president should not make policy based on his religion."
Ok, the lawmakers are going to have to become addicted to pain killers. Then each and every one is going to have to hire a 19 year old Secretary who's chief task will be to sexually gratify them. This while parading their wives and children in front of the country and calling it "Camelot" Then they are going to have to consort with organized crime figures. After that they are going to have to piss off organized crime enough to get themselves murdered in public. Should I go on? Oh yeah. They are going to have to start an affair with the hottest starlets in Hollywood, and then share them with their brothers.
And I hope they drive around in convertables with no bubble tops, too! :jump:
PaceAdvantage
11-20-2005, 05:17 PM
Is yahoo news being run by Howard Dean nowadays?
I for one am starting to believe this.....
Well it's for sure Yahoo news is not run by that foreign dude that owns faux infotainment. :D :D :D
dav4463
11-21-2005, 06:29 AM
Fox News shows both liberal and conservative points of view. They do it all the time, but liberals won't believe it because they don't watch it, based on the reputation that they are all conservative...all the time...Just watch sometimes, they always have someone with differing views on everything. They just don't let two or three liberals on a panel ganging up on one conservative like the other networks.
Lefty
11-21-2005, 12:07 PM
We are ignoring poverty? Bush has spent more on poverty than Clinton. Since Johnson we have spent over 6 trillion!
lbj, how come you never worry about the foreign dude that's the biggest contributor to moveon.org?
so.cal.fan
11-21-2005, 03:20 PM
One of the more popular shows on Fox News is On The Record with Greta Van Susteren.....Greta is not a conservative! Her husband was a major supporter of Sen. Kerry in the last presidential election, Greta disclosed that on her show one night, I heard her.
At least I don't think she is a conservative.....I guess just because you spouse is liberal or conservative, doesn't mean you are. However, I have never pegged Greta as a conservative.
Another popular guy on Fox is Geraldo Rivera......a HUGE supporter of President Clinton.
JustRalph
11-21-2005, 04:27 PM
One of the more popular shows on Fox News is On The Record with Greta Van Susteren.....Greta is not a conservative! Her husband was a major supporter of Sen. Kerry in the last presidential election, Greta disclosed that on her show one night, I heard her.
At least I don't think she is a conservative.....I guess just because you spouse is liberal or conservative, doesn't mean you are. However, I have never pegged Greta as a conservative.
Another popular guy on Fox is Geraldo Rivera......a HUGE supporter of President Clinton.
Greta and her husband are lavishly rich Washington Lawyers and they are big supporters of the Democratic party. They are also big supporters of Scientology, from what I read.
http://scientologywatch.org/postnuke/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=13&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
so.cal.fan
11-21-2005, 04:36 PM
Wow, I wonder if Greta will have Tom Cruise on her show! :D
My favorite Fox News guy is Neil Cavuto....I think he is the real deal.
Lefty
11-21-2005, 04:40 PM
That's what's so great about FoxNews. They have conservatives and liberals and independents. Now that's diversity!
Wow, I wonder if Greta will have Tom Cruise on her show! :D
My favorite Fox News guy is Neil Cavuto....I think he is the real deal.
Maybe "Stan" will come on the show! :D
JustRalph
11-21-2005, 08:07 PM
Maybe "Stan" will come on the show! :D
:lol::lol:
http://www.hovedporten.net/southpark/images/person_stan.gif
boxcar
11-22-2005, 10:13 AM
Wow, I wonder if Greta will have Tom Cruise on her show! :D
My favorite Fox News guy is Neil Cavuto....I think he is the real deal.
:ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp:
He's the very best there is on Fox! Tells it like it is. Isn't afraid to speak his mind.
Boxcar
twindouble
11-22-2005, 10:35 AM
I don't know why everyone thinks Fox news is so great, they have the same talking heads on all the time, very little diversity in opinions, their reporting is like a mad house wife looking to buy on latest hot style, no indepth reporting to speak on any story they blast in our face. " AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 SECONDS" fits them well. Get real! If it wasn't for O'Reilly they wouldn't exist.
T.D.
so.cal.fan
11-22-2005, 10:43 AM
I don't think Fox News is so great, Twindouble.
I rarely watch any of the entertainment/news shows anymore, Fox network or others.
My husband watches Fox.....that is how I started watching Neil Cavuto's show.
I just think he is a decent level headed man.
He has a show on Weekend mornings called Cavuto on Business....with a diverse panel of guests, I find most educational, at least to me.
twindouble
11-22-2005, 10:57 AM
I don't think Fox News is so great, Twindouble.
I rarely watch any of the entertainment/news shows anymore, Fox network or others.
My husband watches Fox.....that is how I started watching Neil Cavuto's show.
I just think he is a decent level headed man.
He has a show on Weekend mornings called Cavuto on Business....with a diverse panel of guests, I find most educational, at least to me.
Yes, Cavuto is a good guy, wife likes him as well. I just get a little tired of him pulling on our heart strings all the time, I think there's a better place for that.
Lefty
11-22-2005, 01:44 PM
Fox News is so great because you are not constantly getting only the leftwing slant on everything. Straight up the middle is to be desired.
twindouble
11-22-2005, 02:34 PM
Fox News is so great because you are not constantly getting only the leftwing slant on everything. Straight up the middle is to be desired.
I find it hard to except the "Fair and Balanced", theme. There seems to be to many light weights on the liberal side. For example, Comes is no match for Hannity, Williams is no match for Brit Hume or Gibson, O'Reilly, Kondracke, ESP Barnes. They are all heavy weight conservatives and have buried just about every liberal argument that's put forth when all is said and done. That means one of two things, liberals have no argument on any subject or there's no balance. When I say liberals I'm not talking the extreme left.
Food for thought,
T.D.
Lefty
11-22-2005, 02:48 PM
twin, you evidently haven't watched much of O'Reilly if you think he's a conservative. He's independent and if knocks dn the liberal argument more than the conservative one, that's because he leans more to capitalism than the brand of socialism the libs proffer. Colmes himself IS a match for Hannity, but his liberal argument and tenets, isn't.
twindouble
11-22-2005, 03:25 PM
twin, you evidently haven't watched much of O'Reilly if you think he's a conservative. He's independent and if knocks dn the liberal argument more than the conservative one, that's because he leans more to capitalism than the brand of socialism the libs proffer. Colmes himself IS a match for Hannity, but his liberal argument and tenets, isn't.
I'm independent as well but I'm in tandum with the conservative positions when it comes Iraq and war on terror like O'Reilly is, that should be very obvious to you. I like O'Reilly but at times his position does go to his head and over the top.
Im not saying Colmes is a dummy but his style is weak compared to Hannity's, seems to me when he does slip a few punches he lacks the ability to throw out a few combinations to win his point. Anyway, that's my perception and it doesn't effect how I weigh things because I have my own opinion and insights. I've been around to long to be spun into mush.
boxcar
11-24-2005, 08:26 PM
I find it hard to except the "Fair and Balanced", theme. There seems to be to many light weights on the liberal side. For example, Comes is no match for Hannity, Williams is no match for Brit Hume or Gibson, O'Reilly, Kondracke, ESP Barnes. They are all heavy weight conservatives and have buried just about every liberal argument that's put forth when all is said and done. That means one of two things, liberals have no argument on any subject or there's no balance. When I say liberals I'm not talking the extreme left.
Food for thought,
T.D.
The former is correct. They have no argument. They are bereft of any ideas. They have nothing of any substantitive nature to say.
Why do you think Lib talk radio is in such dire straights, generally speaking? Radio programming is essentially demand-driven by listeners, and for the most part listeners only want to tune in to Conservatives or Libertarians. Libs run a very poor, distant third compared to these two ideological groups.
Boxcar
so.cal.fan
11-24-2005, 08:32 PM
How do Libertarians differ from Conservatives?
Tucker Carlson on MSNBC says he is a Libertarian.
lsbets
11-24-2005, 08:42 PM
I call myself a conservatarian. A conservative with a big libertarian bent. My biggest beef with the libertarians is they take the as little government as possible argument to the extreme, and some of their ideas would be a disaster.
Lefty
11-24-2005, 09:49 PM
Yeah, libertarians believe in no govt at all. They blve drugs should be made legal. They prob would remove the white line on the roadways.
so.cal.fan
11-24-2005, 11:13 PM
Lefty,
Hold on a minuet....would they also get rid of the Congress and Senate?
That may not be such a bad idea........
LS...watching this misearable excuse of a governement in action, maybe the Libertarians are onto something. At least NO gov'nt would cost a lot less than it does to feed this bunch of traiterous sharks.
Lefty - get rid of the damn line - survival of the fastest! :D
SoCalFan.....No Congress? My fantasy come true! :mad:
I was watching the History channel last night - the series aobut the Presidents.
When Garfiled was shot in July, and lay on his deathbed for two months, congress was in recess, so no one was running the country. The announcer stated, matter of factly, "The country ran without issues.....:
Sure would love to try it out again. The WH and REgress seem to be pretty inept if not outright pathetic most of the time.
so.cal.fan
11-25-2005, 10:32 AM
No matter what our political party affiliations........
you have to stop and think about what kind of a person would RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE these days?
There is no doubt in my mind (or Tom's) that regardless of being a Republican, Democrat, whatever.....they are SERIOUSLY OUT TO LUNCH, either morally, ethically or both.
In most cases we must cast our ballots for the best of a poor choice.
It's still the best form of Govenment so far....but you would think after all these decades we could have improved rather than regressed. :bang:
twindouble
11-25-2005, 12:12 PM
No matter what our political party affiliations........
you have to stop and think about what kind of a person would RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE these days?
There is no doubt in my mind (or Tom's) that regardless of being a Republican, Democrat, whatever.....they are SERIOUSLY OUT TO LUNCH, either morally, ethically or both.
In most cases we must cast our ballots for the best of a poor choice.
It's still the best form of Govenment so far....but you would think after all these decades we could have improved rather than regressed. :bang:
What you said just validates the apathy that has existed for many years. The bigger picture is, over the years we've allowed the Federal, State and local governments become these bureacratic monsters that sucks the life blood out of all of us at every level of our existance. Untill we are willing to dismantal those GOLIATH'S it's only going to get worse.
The first thing I heard on TV this morning was someone is proposing to tax us on how many miles we drive, just one example. I could spend the next year sighting more but If I need to draw everyone here a picture it's a hopeless situation. Their is one good benifit, bending over is a good exercise. Sorry, had to say it.
Lefty
11-25-2005, 12:30 PM
I heard that too, the tax miles business. Will never happen under a repub but a dem...
The govt has become a goliath because the dems have tried to be uncle tit instead of uncle sam and people have become to expect it, become apathetic and curse those with ambition and those that have become successes. Look how the libs on this board always ranting against the rich and the very corps that provide most of our goods and services.
I'd be happy if thye would just be able to PROVE the read the bills the vote on - I mean, really READ them, and understand them, not just "The speaker told me to vote for it." That IS NOT representation. This government sucks to high heaven and it is completelly without merit. The members are degenerate Aholes and deserve no respect. Both sides.
twindouble
11-25-2005, 03:37 PM
I'm no bleeding heart liberal but I would venture to say we could have feed those 6 million kids that starved to death through out the world this year alone with one tenth of what's wasted and pilfered in government programs. That's right, just social progams that are suposed to do some good. Extraplulte that to include anything else on any level of government that spends our money. It's to depressing to get into it all. Hell, I could have feed a few thousand with just what's wasted here in this small town.
Too bad the so-called "nations" that those 6 million lived in as such POS worhtless holes that they do not take care of their own. Yet we welcome them to the UN as equals! The fact is, after the US, there are very few nations that are responsible enough to even call themselves that. Most governments are so inept as to be wholly worthless and yet we keep bailing them out.
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