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ironeyes
11-06-2005, 05:28 AM
Hi everyone,

i have been searching for the process of converting velocity numbers to pace number eg 53.33 into pace number 98.. but to no avail. Can any kind soul enlighten me please? Thanks in advance!!

Whirlaway
11-06-2005, 10:42 AM
I'd say it's a lot easier to make your speed and pace figs from the variant adjusted times rather than converting them to velocity numbers first.

I wanted to make sustained pace numbers for turf races and I did it by assuming that one standard deviation = one standard deviation. For the Del Mar meet the average winning speed figure was 89 with a standard deviation of 9.6 points. The average sustained pace for races at one mile was 56.36 fps with a standard deviation of .576. To get the value of one point I divided .576/9.6 = .06

So for one mile races sustained pace of 56.36 = 89 pts.
with 1 point added or subtracted for every .06 fps difference from 56.36

For 8.5 furlong races the numbers were 55.63 and .07

This method will give you sustained pace figs that match up very well with your speed figs.

Tom
11-06-2005, 01:27 PM
Subtract 45 from the velocity and multiply by 100

53.33 - 45.0 - 108.33 X 100 = 108.33
round down to 108

cj
11-06-2005, 01:42 PM
Velocity is nothing more than a different expression of time in horse racing. It really doesn't matter if you call it time, or velocity, or a speed / pace figure, it is all the same.

So, just convert the velocity to time and use a good speed / pace figure chart and voila, there you have it.

Tom
11-06-2005, 09:17 PM
I made a chart where I listed the velocity numbes next to the time in tenth and just assigned a point to each tenth. Work great. HTR give me PPs in velcity numbers, so use the chart to make it easier to use. How does a horse who run 55.34 compare to one who runs 55.01??? A lenght better, two? A half? Duh?

ironeyes
11-07-2005, 12:58 AM
First and foremost, big thanks to all folks who have given me a suggestion or two. Really appreciate it!

To Tom : why do u subtract 45 from the velocity figures and what does a end figure of 108 compare to a 107? does that mean length advantage at the particular call? Thanks in advance once again.

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