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TOOZ
09-30-2005, 10:17 AM
Forgive me if this has been posted somewhere else:

Free survival challenge contest starting tonight at the Meadowlands.

They pick three races and give you the bris form for all three online.

To survive, just one of your horses have to finish in the money.
You get a mythical 2 bucks across the board on all three horses.
Bankroll accumulates. Survive, bankroll and number of 3 for 3 winners are the
categories. Trip to Vegas for the big contest.

www.thebigm.com

Steve 'StatMan'
09-30-2005, 02:35 PM
Thanks Tooz! Hadn't heard about it. Seems like a lot of fun. It's free and it's online. Even a possiblity of earning a trip to the NTRA Finals!

Hosshead
09-30-2005, 03:36 PM
Let's see now, the fav wins 1/3, bet all favs, so thats 1 win per day, and there ya have it,.......Right ? ;)

Red Knave
09-30-2005, 03:51 PM
Let's see now, the fav wins 1/3, bet all favs, so thats 1 win per day, and there ya have it,.......Right ? ;)Yup, it's easy :rolleyes:
I think I lasted 2 weeks last year :(

OTM Al
10-01-2005, 08:33 AM
Damn....I nearly didn't even make it through the first day. 1 show. Granted I went out on a bit of a limb with NNY but I thought my other 2 were solid

ryesteve
10-01-2005, 08:49 AM
Same here... I came really close to a very embarassing first day exit.

betchatoo
10-01-2005, 11:08 AM
Got a win and a place. I just hope it wasn't a fluke

OTM Al
10-01-2005, 12:44 PM
Flipped through the standings and it looked like 250 or so didn't make it, though being a first day, some probably forgot.

stuball
10-01-2005, 02:22 PM
ALIVE WITH 1 WIN ----WE SHALL SEE

STUBALL :bang: :ThmbUp:

betchatoo
10-02-2005, 10:04 AM
2 more wins yesterday and in a tie for 49th. I should quit while I'm ahead

Red Knave
10-02-2005, 12:44 PM
I should quit while I'm aheadJust when you think you're out, they pull you back in ;) You can't quit.
I'm about 134th.

stuball
10-02-2005, 12:51 PM
I FELL ASLEEP I'M OUT ---FORGOT ABOUT IT

STUBALL :sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

Steve 'StatMan'
10-02-2005, 01:03 PM
First page of the leader board for Betchatoo! You'll be easier to watch, at least for a while. I'm doing my slow and steady routine, #355. 6/1-2-1 $56-ish. Nice that there are bonuses for most wins and 3-win days. Having 3 races to have a chance to stay in is nice too, so easy to get wiped out of NYRA's showdown fairly quickly. I imagine the longer some people last in the contest, the longer they're willing to bet a few dollars on the card, online or otherwise.

Steve 'StatMan'
10-03-2005, 12:30 PM
Just a reminder to those of us in the MED contest - they run Day Cards on Tuesdays.

OTM Al
10-03-2005, 12:40 PM
Man, I'm stinking this up so far but am somehow still alive with a whopping $8.40 roll tied for 1322nd place......

OTM Al
10-04-2005, 04:11 PM
A win and 2 places today. I am feeling much better about myself :)

betchatoo
10-04-2005, 04:51 PM
A win and a place, but very chalky. Oh well, at least I live to fight another day

ryesteve
10-04-2005, 08:21 PM
I thought the 3 races they chose for today were terrible. I can't imagine too many people got knocked out.

betchatoo
10-05-2005, 08:56 AM
Have meetings all day today. Had to make my selections this morning without knowing about scratches or weather. I'm afraid, very afraid.

My picks

Beautiful Bay 07 Pending
Escadilla 04 Pending
American Quest 08 Pending

OTM Al
10-05-2005, 09:10 AM
Those picks look fine to me. I stayed off Escadilla because at her age she seemed too much a wild card to me. I went with

Limero (ARG) 08 Pending
Lakes Tune 07 Pending
Eddie Bracken 04 Pending

after yesterday's strong move moved me up 300 slots to 1040th!!! On a roll now!

ryesteve
10-05-2005, 11:04 AM
Have meetings all day today. Had to make my selections this morning without knowing about scratches or weather. I'm afraid, very afraid.

My picks

Beautiful Bay 07 Pending
Escadilla 04 Pending
American Quest 08 Pending
They're running a night card, so you've got plenty of time to change your mind... but considering that we're on the same 3 horses, I don't think you need to :D

TOOZ
10-05-2005, 03:29 PM
Still hanging around after three days in 867th. Time to get serious. Time to pick a 30 dollar winner and jump about 400 places. I know it started with over 1900 entries and is down to around 1060, however they don't get rid of the people from the leader board that are out. If you click the name however, it will tell you if you can make more picks or not. I heard that you are allowed to miss one day of picks. But only one.

Steve 'StatMan'
10-05-2005, 10:42 PM
Oooh wee. I survived.

Lost Race 4 - I was torn, and went against my top pick Escadilla that some of you used, he won, and my 2nd choice, Amalgamate, ran out.

Survived in Race 7 on a technicality and a clever 'stand pat'. I was torn by this race too, liking both halves of the entry, but also liking the #6 Wish A Passion. Couldn't decide which half of the entry to use, so I used the 6 instead, thinking I'd switch to one of the entries after scratches. Well, the 6 scratched instead, and both parts of the entry stayed Beautiful Bay and Pimentinha, so I left it alone, expecting the entry to be the favorite, and getting both entry halves by default. Pimentha held onto 3rd by a head. I'll take it.

Survived the normal way in Race 8, Limero just got up by another head for 3rd.

I goofed on my dollars in an earlier post, I'm only up to $60.90 now, and 12/2-4-3 so far. Was around 310th, but we've got another month plus, and I live to fight again another day, and that's a big part of the battle.

Anyone know what won this contest last year? This is the 2nd year of the contest, right?

dutzman
10-06-2005, 12:20 AM
$58.10 here after today, this is a nice little contest. I also enjoy Keeneland's handicapping challenge. Anyone play that?

Steve 'StatMan'
10-06-2005, 01:17 AM
$58.10 here after today, this is a nice little contest. I also enjoy Keeneland's handicapping challenge. Anyone play that?

Thanks for mentioning this one Dutzman! Seems interesting, involves all the Keeneland races for their Fall meet, 18 days I believe. Those following the Keeneland meet on a regular basis should take a look at it.

OTM Al
10-06-2005, 11:50 AM
Woo-hoo after a stunning place and show yesterday we have moved all the way up to 1023rd!!!! Ugh. Still alive though, but today's picks looking pretty chalky again....

Secret Forest 07 Pending
Dyna's Destiny 09 Pending
Warrior Girl 04 Pending

TOOZ
10-06-2005, 01:15 PM
There are 984 people left, 1000 out in 4 days. They leave people who are out on the list. Why, I have no idea. Stat, I was rooting for that Mott entry to run out of the money. That was the only way my buddy survived, and probably others also. Still hanging, however with a measly 39+.

Red Knave
10-06-2005, 01:57 PM
Going a bit agaist the grain today.
3 really sweet turf races. Two MDN 2yo filly routes and a f4u NW3LT should shake a few of us out. :rolleyes: :p
Cosmo Queen 04
Coherent ...07
Danica B ...09

Steve 'StatMan'
10-06-2005, 05:59 PM
There are 984 people left, 1000 out in 4 days. They leave people who are out on the list. Why, I have no idea. Stat, I was rooting for that Mott entry to run out of the money. That was the only way my buddy survived, and probably others also. Still hanging, however with a measly 39+.

Interesting thing about this contest, the standings and prizes are based on the total bankroll. Players accumulate their bankrolls until the first day they don't grow it any further (all 3 out of the money). Those that remain keep growing their bankrolls as long as they can, and passing up the 'carcases' until the end, or they get eliminated. Then they look at the final standings for the prize list.

I'm not so much worried about being down in the bankroll yet, as long as I keep surviving and growing the bankroll. Hopefully a bunch of the field will come back to us, and we can make our to the leaders gradually.

Steve 'StatMan'
10-06-2005, 06:14 PM
...make our move on the the leaders gradually. (Looks like I stumbled and checked there).

Binder
10-06-2005, 06:56 PM
What is a Three for Three
Is that all three of yor picks win ?
I'm hanging around in the mid 200's
with $75.00

Steve 'StatMan'
10-06-2005, 09:30 PM
What is a Three for Three
Is that all three of yor picks win ?
I'm hanging around in the mid 200's
with $75.00

Correct! One of the bonus categories is $500 to the player with the most 3-for-3 days. Another bonus is $500 to the most total wins.

The grand prize, and the NTRA birth, goes to the highest bankroll.

betchatoo
10-06-2005, 10:29 PM
Woo-hoo after a stunning place and show yesterday we have moved all the way up to 1023rd!!!! Ugh. Still alive though, but today's picks looking pretty chalky again....

Secret Forest 07 Pending
Dyna's Destiny 09 Pending
Warrior Girl 04 Pending

We have the exact same picks. You must be very smart! :lol:

TOOZ
10-07-2005, 07:03 AM
Just a note, I picked half of an entry, that scratched and got the favorite that ended up winning, not the other half of the entry that raced.

betchatoo
10-07-2005, 08:58 AM
2 wins and a place yesterday. hovering at 59th. I noticed Bigred in top 5. Is that PA's Big Red?

ryesteve
10-07-2005, 09:07 AM
I'm having net problems... can someone tell me which are today's 3 races?

betchatoo
10-07-2005, 09:10 AM
Races 3, 6 and 8

ryesteve
10-07-2005, 09:14 AM
Thanks! Now I gotta hope I can get my picks in. Anyone else having problems related to this: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5889592.html ?

OTM Al
10-07-2005, 09:14 AM
I guess we were both pretty smart! 2 Wins and a place vaulting me all the way up to 784th!!!!! At least my bank roll is starting to look respectable instead of looking like something you would find under the couch cushions. Todays picks, already adjusted for the anticipated rains of tonight...

Letthefreedomroar 06 Pending
Tap Day 08 Pending
Temptedtotouch 03 Pending

betchatoo
10-07-2005, 09:24 AM
We are totally different today, though I reserve the right to make changes dependent on weather and scratches.

Ice Wynnd Fire 08 Pending
Saddle Shoes 03 Pending
High Peaks 06 Pending

TOOZ
10-07-2005, 09:36 AM
They are calling for rain tonight.

Chez Audra 06 Pending
Tap Day 08 Pending
Temptedtotouch 03 Pending

betchatoo
10-07-2005, 02:12 PM
With High Peaks scrtched i substituted AMBITION UNBRIDLED

Good luck to all

OTM Al
10-07-2005, 02:34 PM
Lost mine in that race too and also figured Ambition Unbridled was the way to go. Looking for chalk like the cliffs of Dover on that one though...

Steve 'StatMan'
10-07-2005, 10:35 PM
Uh oh. The 2X Spring Rush won, but 2 Ambiton Unbridled didn't finish in. I'm sorry if what I think happened, happened, guys.

Looks like OTM Al and I made it with Tap Day. That was the only one I had. I made some switches expecting tons of rain. I knew about the 'off the turf' but missed that race too. Glad to see 'Tap' come through, though.

ryesteve
10-08-2005, 12:38 AM
Well, my picks in the 3rd and 8th ran pretty terribly, but that abortion of a 6th race did nothing to help my chances of sticking around. Whose bright idea was it to use a grass race in the contest with rain in the forecast?

I guess I can focus on the Keeneland contest now. On day 1, I had the two $20 winners and the $14 winner... but that wasn't even good enough to hit the first page. Tough crowd!

betchatoo
10-08-2005, 04:55 AM
Well, my picks in the 3rd and 8th ran pretty terribly, but that abortion of a 6th race did nothing to help my chances of sticking around. Whose bright idea was it to use a grass race in the contest with rain in the forecast?

I guess I can focus on the Keeneland contest now. On day 1, I had the two $20 winners and the $14 winner... but that wasn't even good enough to hit the first page. Tough crowd!

Ditto for me, it's off to Keenland. You can tell we're both using JCapper. I had the same winners

OTM Al
10-08-2005, 07:51 AM
Yeah, Tap Day saved my bacon on this one. Kinda upset about that 6th race though as Ambition Unbridled wasn't on the original scratch list, so we got stuck with that mutt that finished last of 5 and never was even in it. I was fine with getting the post time favorite when it looked like it was going to be Spring Rush, but of course that changed.

OTM Al
10-08-2005, 08:54 AM
My picks for today. All the way up to 661st coming into this one!

Tough to Be Humble 04 Pending
Fortress Hill 07 Pending
Astrologist 08 Pending

Red Knave
10-08-2005, 01:18 PM
All the way up to 661st coming into this one! Tough to Be Humble 04 Pending
Made me smile.

Well, good luck to those remaining. I got bounced last nite too.
Although I did have the distinction of having every pick finish last!! :eek: :confused: :bang:

I'm off to Vegas for 2 weeks.

Steve 'StatMan'
10-08-2005, 02:54 PM
309st Stat Man Steve 5 5 3 0 $104.30

Torn tonght, again. My top 2 picks in the 8th, including Astrologist, scratched. There went the best mudders.

Exaggerate This 08 Pending
Fortress Hill 07 Pending
Tough to Be Humble 04 Pending

TOOZ
10-08-2005, 04:08 PM
Looks like we all think Pletcher's horse will be strong.

Head Ofthe Charles 04 Pending
Just Le Facts 08 Pending
Fortress Hill 07 Pending

4th race horse ran against horse running in Champagne.
I'll give it a shot.

Steve 'StatMan'
10-08-2005, 05:21 PM
Betchatoo and Red Knave,

Hope you get this, I PM'd both of you. I see in the MED Contest you're still in.

RyeSteve shows as out.

Maybe they fooled us on how they handle those scratches, entries, etc. Not Sure - anyway, wanted you to know ASAP.

betchatoo
10-08-2005, 06:01 PM
They gave me my horses stablemate rather than the favorite. I'm not going to argue. I'm in. I'm worried though. How long did Lazurus survive when he was raised from the dead?

Tonight's picks
Echo Quest 04 Pending
Exaggerate This 08 Pending
Fortress Hill 07 Pending

OTM Al
10-08-2005, 06:38 PM
Had to flip to Exaggerate This in the 8th. Just got home in time from the OTB. Won a couple bucks but nothing major.

Getting the stablemate is odd...I got scratched out of the 2 but didn't get the 2X????

Just checked. They changed it from what it said this morning. Did get Spring Rush in the last yesterday...okay, fine with me.

Steve 'StatMan'
10-08-2005, 08:31 PM
Meadowlands cancelled after the first race tonight.

ryesteve
10-09-2005, 12:39 AM
RyeSteve shows as out.

Yup... I was on another scratched horse, not the entry. Obviously I'm biased, but if they scratch your horse AFTER the entry deadline, and the favorite they stick you with runs out, they ought to give you a free ride to continue.

OTM Al
10-10-2005, 07:31 PM
Here's what I'm looking at for tomorrow. Assuming they will be off turf

Greeley's Legacy 09 Pending
Eye for Style 05 Pending
Pleasant Laughter 07 Pending

betchatoo
10-10-2005, 11:21 PM
I'm gone all day tomorrow so I'm holding my breath (again)

Tahoe Warrior 09 Pending
Eye for Style 05 Pending
Pleasant Laughter 07 Pending

TOOZ
10-11-2005, 08:47 AM
Going for prices on a miserable day

Contrition 07 Pending
Greg Got Even 09 Pending
Coastal Vow 05 Pending

Red Knave
10-11-2005, 12:26 PM
Sheesh, you have to wait until an hour before post time to handicap these races!
Not going too far against the crowd today.
Eye for Style 05
Prop Me Up 07
Saint Augustus 09

OTM Al
10-11-2005, 12:37 PM
They were pretty late with scratches today. I almost forgot to check back before the deadline, but fortunately the email from Red Knave's post came through just in time (Thanks RK!). Flipped to Prop me Up in the much diminished 7th.

Steve 'StatMan'
10-11-2005, 12:45 PM
Nuts. Forgot to check scratches - got too busy working this morning.

Race 5 Eye For Style
Race 7 Scratch will get favorite
Orig had Pleasant Laughter, wishing I get Prop Me Up. See Bravo is now up, so maybe he will be the favorite.
Race 9 Entry Saint Augustus (entry with Tahoe Warrior)

OTM Al
10-11-2005, 02:45 PM
Well, we all rushed around for nothing. Just cancelled after 3 races.

OTM Al
10-11-2005, 10:30 PM
And assuming it stops raining at some point, tomorrow I like

Flourishing 08 Pending
Secret Tribe 05 Pending
Trailing Twelve 02 Pending

TOOZ
10-12-2005, 09:45 AM
It's raining harder today than it did Saturday. Hopefully they will figure out how to seal a track by tonight. They must be consulting the Charlestown track people.

OTM Al
10-12-2005, 09:53 AM
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Got soaked walking 4 blocks from the subway even with an umbrella this morning. That track is probably a swamp right now.

OTM Al
10-12-2005, 10:41 AM
It must be a swamp as they have already cancelled wednesday night's card and declared off turf for thursday and friday (should they run!).

The friday night turf stakes has also been rescheduled. Belmont cancelled today as well btw.

TOOZ
10-12-2005, 12:13 PM
Never thought the reason that I would survive another week is because they can't run a race.

garyoz
10-12-2005, 03:57 PM
Meadowlands definitely cancelled for Thursday also. Will make a decision for Friday on Friday AM. No turf races until next week. http://www.thebigm.com/racingNewsDetail.asp?newsid=5369

betchatoo
10-17-2005, 02:14 PM
Out all day tomorrow. Here are my tries for the contest

Horse Race # Result Payout
Jay's Wish 08 Pending
Angianna 07 Pending
Hurricane Shockey 09 Pending

Good luck to all

OTM Al
10-17-2005, 10:06 PM
Sunshine!!!!!! I'm going with these

Royalactgo 07 Pending
Hurricane Shockey 09 Pending
Scary Bob 08 Pending

Red Knave
10-18-2005, 12:53 AM
I'm going to try :

Angianna 07
Scary Bob 08
Hurricane Shockey 09

Steve 'StatMan'
10-18-2005, 01:38 AM
I'm going to try :

Angianna 07
Scary Bob 08
Hurricane Shockey 09

Turns out those were my first choices when I made my early selections on Sunday morning. I've put them in, though haven't reviewed them yet. Having RK's good company on all of them, and everyone else's good company on most of them, I won't worry about finding time for that review now. :cool:

TOOZ
10-18-2005, 06:58 AM
Since I'm doing work for Merrill Lynch, I have to go with the name horse in the 7th, don't I?

Cool Cat Interview 09 Pending
Scary Bob 08 Pending
Mutual Fund 07 Pending

OTM Al
10-18-2005, 04:48 PM
2 seconds and a first on a chalk-chalk-chalky day......

OTM Al
10-18-2005, 11:03 PM
For Wednesday

Tahoe Warrior 05 Pending
Fagedaboudit Sal 06 Pending
Exploit's Kid 09 Pending

Red Knave
10-19-2005, 12:24 AM
Turns out those were my first choices when I made my early selections on Sunday morning. I've put them in, though haven't reviewed them yet.
2 wins (1 by default as Angianna gets scratched) and a place.
Having RK's good company on all of them, and everyone else's good company on most of them, I won't worry about finding time for that review now. :cool:
If you consider us good company, you are introuble. ;)

For tomorrow -
Tahoe Warrior 05
Defrere the Smile 06
Exploit's Kid 09

OTM Al
10-20-2005, 09:22 AM
Bit of a slip yesterday...only a place with Tahoe Warrior but got win price as well as his entrymate finished first but nothing in the other 2. For tonight hopefully start moving forward again

Hello Jerry 07 Pending
Findee's Keepee's 08 Pending
Golden Contender 05 Pending

TOOZ
10-20-2005, 09:42 AM
Still alive, but the life support equipment is being warmed up

Just Le Facts 05 Pending
Rockhewn 08 Pending
Sir Aly 07 Pending

betchatoo
10-20-2005, 12:35 PM
Still on 1st page but losing my grip on it.

Back Again Ben 05 Pending
Hello Jerry 07 Pending
Fourthirteen 08 Pending

Red Knave
10-20-2005, 03:58 PM
Looks a bit more interesting tonight. We're all picking different animals.

Golden Contender 05
Sir Aly 07
Paris Adventure 08

OTM Al
10-20-2005, 04:09 PM
Yeah. Decided to take a little more risk to see if I can catch some prices. Findees Keepees is the one to fit that bill tonight for me. The other 2 I don't expect to get much of a price, but do expect them to be solid.

betchatoo
10-20-2005, 06:00 PM
Trying to hit a price or two to move up. Not sure today is my right day for it. Got 1 place in 9 races at Keenland

OTM Al
10-20-2005, 08:43 PM
Keeneland has been nuts this year. Somehow caught one tri there a couple weeks ago and it paid way more than expected, which made up for all the races I wasn't even freakin' close on. Wondering if a lot of these horses coming out of there should be downgraded if running at same level. Kind of a negative key meet.....

OTM Al
10-20-2005, 10:23 PM
And I am history. Luck to all left

Steve 'StatMan'
10-20-2005, 10:27 PM
Well, the "good news" is that the leader wiped out tonight.

The "bad news" (my perspective at least,) is I got wiped out too.

Oh well. One less thing to take care of, I guess, but it was fun while it lasted.

Good Luck to all still in!

betchatoo
10-20-2005, 10:55 PM
I lucked out with one show horse. Not a good day for the PA crew

Red Knave
10-21-2005, 11:06 AM
Another short priced win and place keeps me out of the top 100 by .20.
But, still alive.
All I really want to do is finish so it will be lots more chalk for me.

OTM Al
10-21-2005, 11:14 AM
Looks like we weren't alone. Almost half the remaining players got waxed last night too. Ah well......a couple weeks and I can play the Aqueduct Showdown. I love Aqueduct.

betchatoo
10-21-2005, 01:42 PM
I fell off the first page with my lone show yesterday. Going to make at least 1 price shot again today

Smart N Classy 06 Pending
Sky Jet 10 Pending
Sarah's Prospect 08 Pending

Red Knave
10-21-2005, 02:25 PM
Going chalky again today.

Delta Princess 06
Sarah's Prospect 08
Dear Henry 10

betchatoo
10-21-2005, 11:56 PM
And it's down you go for me. Still holding at 2nd in the Keenland contest. I guess I have more time to devote to that now.

Red Knave
10-22-2005, 12:26 AM
And it's down you go for me. Still holding at 2nd in the Keenland contest. I guess I have more time to devote to that now.
Good luck at KEE. Sorry to see you go at MED.
I squeaked out a place with Delta Princess. Onward and upward.

betchatoo
10-22-2005, 05:32 AM
Good luck to you Red Knave. Keep plugging away. It was just my luck, playing Surviver, I was voted off the island

TOOZ
10-25-2005, 06:38 AM
Rain and high wind today, expect another cancellation.

Red Knave
10-26-2005, 02:53 PM
Let's see if they can run a card tonight.

Little Red Rocket 04
Kaufy Machine 05
Royal Dove 07

Red Knave
10-27-2005, 11:00 AM
Those Shoes 03
Snow Big Deal 07
Groomeroma 08

TOOZ
10-27-2005, 11:23 AM
I can't imagine how 7 people dropped out with all those scratches.

Need some sort of price

Those Shoes 03 Pending
What's That 07 Pending
Ringaring a Rosie 08 Pending

Red Knave
10-28-2005, 08:46 AM
Dropped 40 or so last night

Celestial Legend 07
Tahoe Warrior 08
Little Dovefeather 09

TOOZ
10-28-2005, 11:40 AM
Nice pick Red with Groomeroma. I guess I should be happy that 1600 dropped out before me, but I'm not. I was going to take Rose's mount also, but something about Bravo/Contessa intrigued me. I took this first time Lost Soldier horse last time during the deluge, I'll give him another shot.

Primary Motive 07 Pending
Soldier's Word 08 Pending
Passive Aggression 09 Pending

Red Knave
10-29-2005, 12:39 PM
Hard to get excited about this contest today, but here goes

Fidrych 03
Been Wavering 05
Ambition Unbridled 06