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ljb
09-09-2005, 10:23 AM
Hello,
Found this neat site that has all the proper talking points for the rightys. You guys won't have to post your spin anymore, just point to this link. :D
Who said.
"Can't play the blame game cause we are to blame."? Scotty ? :D
Here is the link, check it out.
http://rogueplanet.blogspot.com/2005/09/generic-television-interview-with.html

Tom
09-09-2005, 10:21 PM
Listen Stinky, you just got a good lesson in how bad things are when the Democrates are running the show. Didn't you learn any thing?

JustRalph
09-09-2005, 11:12 PM
Hello,
Found this neat site that has all the proper talking points for the rightys. You guys won't have to post your spin anymore, just point to this link. :D
Who said.
"Can't play the blame game cause we are to blame."? Scotty ? :D
Here is the link, check it out.
http://rogueplanet.blogspot.com/2005/09/generic-television-interview-with.html

You know Stinky, you just keep beating the same drum beat.........as usual it is hollow................

DJofSD
09-09-2005, 11:16 PM
ljb doesn't beat a hollow drum.

Self gratification usually means something else is getting beat.

DJofSD

Secretariat
09-09-2005, 11:38 PM
An example of leadership.

Haven from fury Mercy Flight Brings Evacuees to ET
Gore accompanies about 140 arrivals from New Orleans but declines to take credit
By ROBERT WILSON, rlwilson2594@msn.com
September 4, 2005

They saw nature's unmatched fury up close.

Now they would see unbridled human compassion.

About 140 people - mostly elderly and infirm - arrived Saturday at McGhee Tyson Airport on a chartered mercy flight from hurricane-ravaged New Orleans, welcomed to East Tennessee by a bright sun and a host of medical professionals straining at the reins to help their fellow human beings without regard to whether they were on the clock.

The displaced hurricane victims came to Tennessee on a hastily arranged flight, accompanied by doctors and carrying whatever they had in boxes, bags or, in one case, an old suitcase tied up with rope.

Former Vice President Al Gore arranged the flight and was on board, but he declined to take credit for the airlift, fearing it would be "politicized."

The patients and evacuees arrived aboard an American Airlines MD-80 about 3:15 p.m. The unloading process took almost two hours, as some walked hesitantly down a staircase beneath the rear of the aircraft. Others were rolled down a ramp from the front of the plane to waiting wheelchairs. Personnel from Rural/Metro and the Tennessee Air National Guard volunteered their services, as did others, to get the patients and evacuees loaded onto buses or ambulances for the ride to area hospitals to be assessed medically before going to a Red Cross shelter.

On hand to help with the operation were Knox County Mayor Mike Ragsdale and his wife, Claudia, still decked out in orange from having attended the University of Tennessee football game against Alabama-Birmingham. The county's first couple assisted medical staff in shuttling patients from the ramp to buses.

One of the doctors on board the flight was Dr. Anderson Spickard of Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, who said he had a "personal and professional" relationship with Gore.

Spickard said Gore called him about 11 p.m. Friday to ask him to participate in the flight.

"The jet was chartered," he said. "It was a private effort."

Gore chartered the plane, but, Spickard said, "we'll decide who pays for it later."

The doctor said the patients on the plane traveled well and added that he was "pleased" with Knoxville and Knox County's response to the call for help.
The patients, he said, "didn't know what kindness" they would receive here.
Spickard said the plane would leave McGhee Tyson Saturday evening for Dallas, where he would spend the night before making another mercy flight, possibly to Chattanooga, Nashville or Chicago.

The plan had been to make two flights Saturday, Spickard said, but delays in getting to Knoxville meant that the plane could not get back to New Orleans before dark. And there are no landing lights at New Orleans International Airport.

Mayor Ragsdale said he was touched by some of the heart-wrenching stories the people told him as they disembarked from the plane.

One, he said, was a man of 80-plus years who described being on his roof for three days before being rescued. Another was in an attic that almost filled with water. A third was a man who got off the plane barefooted and with obvious skin trauma to his lower legs, who told the mayor of having to stand in water for 2-3 days.

"Some folks are mentally exhausted," he said. And, the mayor said, he has been notified that the Knoxville area can expect as many as 1,500 more evacuees in coming days.

Ragsdale said a meeting was held Friday afternoon - before the mercy flight was announced - that included representatives of his staff and Knoxville Mayor Bill Haslam's, all area hospitals, Knoxville's Community Development Corporation, Child and Family Services, the Red Cross, the Salvation Army and the Knox County Health Department to come up with a plan to mobilize in case of such an emergency.

"We didn't know this would happen," Ragsdale said. "It is fortunate we had the meeting."

He called Saturday "a very successful day."

Gore chose not to speak to the assembled media, but he was seen in a black T-shirt and jeans moving rapidly from one side of the plane to the other assisting with the off-loading operation.

Forty people aboard the plane were uninjured evacuees, mostly family members of the elderly patients. Two or three children and a dog also were on board.

Participating in the operation were the Knoxville Fire Department, the Blount County Rescue Squad and the Tennessee Emergency Management Agency. Cruisers from the Tennessee Highway Patrol escorted the buses to hospitals.
Additional medical personnel within the regional emergency system also were on standby.

Units at the airports included at least 10 ambulances, a phalanx of buses, fire trucks and other equipment.

All those aboard the mercy flight were taken to hospitals for evaluation, including the University of Tennessee Medical Center, St. Mary's, Fort Sanders Regional Medical Center, Parkwest, the Baptist Health System, Methodist Medical Center of Oak Ridge, Blount Memorial Hospital, Jefferson Memorial Hospital, Fort Sanders Loudon and Children's Hospital of East Tennessee.

Air National Guard personnel donated their time to help move patients and others to buses and provide liquids, said Capt. Lisa Godsey, public information officer for McGhee Tyson Air National Guard Base. Also coordinating the event was Rebecca Huckaby, public information officer for the airport.
The crew for the plane was made up of volunteers led by Capt. E.W. Evans.
Mayor Ragsdale said the effort "could not have had better cooperation" and that the response was "heart-warming."

lsbets
09-09-2005, 11:54 PM
Since he didn't want to take credit for this, I'm sure his publicity people had nothing to do with the story getting out.

Al Gore, inventor of the internet, a hero for all mankind!

PaceAdvantage
09-10-2005, 12:15 AM
Al Gore has lots of time (and MONEY) on his hands. I would expect him to be doing at LEAST this amount of work for hurricane relief.

DJofSD
09-10-2005, 12:50 AM
Brief stopover in S.D. gives many a glimmer of hope for the future

By Anne Krueger
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

September 9, 2005

Forty-eight evacuees from Hurricane Katrina flew into San Diego yesterday evening for a brief stop on their way to a shelter in Los Angeles.

Some evacuees said they were happy to have escaped the horrors of the hurricane's aftermath.

"I'm glad to be alive right now," said Randy Thompson, 25, of New Orleans. "When I got on that plane, it was like a dream come true."

The flight from Baton Rouge, La., was financed by Andy Reckles, a private-equity fund manager from Atlanta. He said he wanted to help after hearing about a flight last week of 82 hurricane evacuees organized by San Diego businessman David Perez, who also helped organize yesterday's effort.

He said the charter from a Miami company cost about $97,000.

"It's only money. It's what people should be doing," Reckles said in a telephone interview. "They're our neighbors, and they need our help."

After landing at Lindbergh Field, the evacuees were given a medical screening by county public health nurses and doctors to ensure they had medications and were not suffering from any conditions that needed immediate attention. Then they were loaded onto charter buses to be taken to the Dream Center, a 14-story shelter near downtown Los Angeles with more than 1,000 rooms.

The plane landed in San Diego so it could be loaded with 17,000 pounds of supplies to be flown to victims in Gulfport, Miss., said Doug Schultz of Applera Corp., a biomedical company that arranged the return flight. A consortium of corporate aviation jets has made more than 60 flights, delivering 130,000 pounds of supplies to the stricken area, he said.

"We're going to continue to do this until the Red Cross and FEMA can get in," he said.

The evacuees had just a quick glimpse of the tarmac at the private aviation terminal before boarding the buses.

Marilyn George of New Orleans clutched her daughter, Michelle, whose first birthday was yesterday.

"I'm just happy that we're OK, and everyone's OK," she said.

George said she and six other members of her family escaped their homes in New Orleans before the hurricane struck Aug. 29.

"We can't go home," she said. "We can't never go back home. We've got to stay strong for our family."

Thompson said he didn't escape his house until two days after the hurricane hit, and had to wade through water up to his neck to reach a truck so he could get to a shelter.

Holding up a plastic bag, he said, "All I got right now is these T-shirts. I'm glad to have that."

He and his friend, Brandon Henderson, said they weren't sure what the future held.

"We're taking it one day at a time. That's all we can do," Thompson said.

Secretariat
09-10-2005, 10:55 AM
Al Gore has lots of time (and MONEY) on his hands. I would expect him to be doing at LEAST this amount of work for hurricane relief.

God, you deprecate the man even in the face of this kind of decisive action. Isbets accuses him of politicizing the event (even though it was barely reported and he made no comment), and PA says it's the "least" he could do...And you guys talk about me being partisan? Whew...

Where were the Bush chartered jets, the Delay ones, the Hastert ones, the Cheney or Hallburton ones to rescue people? no where in sight. I guess they were frightened of it looking like it was being politicized to rescue old and sick people from hospitals. Well, PA, if that's the "least" Gore could do, none of the ABOVE even came close to matching it.

ljb
09-10-2005, 11:12 AM
Listen Stinky, you just got a good lesson in how bad things are when the Democrates are running the show. Didn't you learn any thing?
Tommy,

Are you reffering to the good ol days of peace and prosperity under Clinton ?

ljb
09-10-2005, 11:17 AM
God, you deprecate the man even in the face of this kind of decisive action. Isbets accuses him of politicizing the event (even though it was barely reported and he made no comment), and PA says it's the "least" he could do...And you guys talk about me being partisan? Whew...

Where were the Bush chartered jets, the Delay ones, the Hastert ones, the Cheney or Hallburton ones to rescue people? no where in sight. I guess they were frightened of it looking like it was being politicized to rescue old and sick people from hospitals. Well, PA, if that's the "least" Gore could do, none of the ABOVE even came close to matching it.
Sec,
Bush did do a "flyover" on air force one. And to put a positive view on this, a Halliburton subsidary got a 500 million no bid contract to do some rebuilding down there. :D

ljb
09-10-2005, 11:20 AM
hey fellows, you don't have to post all your bs. Just go to the link and copy an excuse, or better yet just tell me which number excuse you want to use. :D :D :D
ps to tommy,
LA is a red state, NY is a blue state. Go figure.

Tom
09-10-2005, 11:32 AM
Hey Stinky, seek help.

Remeber the old computer monitors, if you left them on to one screen too long, it would burn the image in permenantly?

That is your brain on Bush.

JustRalph
09-10-2005, 02:43 PM
Hey Stinky, seek help.

Remeber the old computer monitors, if you left them on to one screen too long, it would burn the image in permenantly?

That is your brain on Bush.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

PaceAdvantage
09-10-2005, 03:31 PM
Where were the Bush chartered jets, the Delay ones, the Hastert ones, the Cheney or Hallburton ones to rescue people? no where in sight. I guess they were frightened of it looking like it was being politicized to rescue old and sick people from hospitals.

No, they were too busy putting together the operation to save Louisiana state and local leaders' sweet asses after they totally screwed up the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

DJofSD
09-10-2005, 03:37 PM
PA I guess that means there's different kinds of damage control.

DJ

Secretariat
09-10-2005, 03:50 PM
No, they were too busy putting together the operation to save Louisiana state and local leaders' sweet asses after they totally screwed up the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

I think with that statement you have now joined the Boxcar crowd of right wing partisan extremists.

I'm starting a new thread with this one, but figured I'd give you a sneak peek on who they're saving.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050910/pl_nm/contracts_dc

ljb
09-10-2005, 04:24 PM
I think with that statement you have now joined the Boxcar crowd of right wing partisan extremists.

I'm starting a new thread with this one, but figured I'd give you a sneak peek on who they're saving.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050910/pl_nm/contracts_dc
Sec,
Isn't it just like PA to think locals could take care of a catastrophe like Katrina? Seems that's the same thing the Bushco's thought. But wait they have found a bright spot in this tragedy, your link says it all. $$$$$$ for the neocons. The victims get $1500 and Halliburon gets Millions if not Billions. Them neocons really know how to turn a buck. :D

ljb
09-10-2005, 04:33 PM
Hey Stinky, seek help.

Remeber the old computer monitors, if you left them on to one screen too long, it would burn the image in permenantly?

That is your brain on Bush.
Glad to see you have run out of intelligent discussion and are back to name calling. Chalk up another victory for us Liberals. :jump: :jump: :jump:

PaceAdvantage
09-10-2005, 04:34 PM
Sec,
Isn't it just like PA to think locals could take care of a catastrophe like Katrina?

Read it again. I said IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH.

ljb
09-10-2005, 04:39 PM
Ok,
Isn't it just like PA to think the locals could handle a castastrophe like this in the immediate aftermath.

Tom
09-10-2005, 04:40 PM
There he goes again!:

Where were the Bush chartered jets, the Delay ones, the Hastert ones, the Cheney or Hallburton ones to rescue people? no where in sight. I guess they were frightened of it looking like it was being politicized to rescue old and sick people from hospitals.

The problem is, you need runways to land planes on. Runways were being used for helicopters and MASH units. The evac plans specifically called out NO as the responsbile party, not the Feds. Had NO done it;s job and evacuated people to the airports, they would have been taken out as needed.
Bit Noooooooooooo. Mayor Mouth FAILED to do his job and left his own people in last resort areas.

Go eat your cracker.

ljb
09-10-2005, 04:42 PM
Strange, the media got in. Even Sean Penn got in. Why couldn't the feds get in ?

PaceAdvantage
09-10-2005, 07:41 PM
The feds got in just fine. They would have been there a lot sooner had the governor allowed them to utilize their plan.

I read where the governor went to the feds prior to Katrina striking land and the feds said "Sure, we're ready to help, turn it over to us, and off we go." Governor said "thanks but no thanks"

Why do you go to the feds for help, then turn them down when you don't like their plan?

Is this true? If so, why aren't we hanging blanco out to dry?

Secretariat
09-10-2005, 09:24 PM
There he goes again!:

Where were the Bush chartered jets, the Delay ones, the Hastert ones, the Cheney or Hallburton ones to rescue people? no where in sight. I guess they were frightened of it looking like it was being politicized to rescue old and sick people from hospitals.

The problem is, you need runways to land planes on. Runways were being used for helicopters and MASH units. Go eat your cracker.

Let's see John Travolta flew in with supplies. Al Gore chatered a jet and flew in to evacuate the elderly and others hospitalized. Even Sean Penn of all people got into help. Meanwhile Bush strummed on his guitar, and Cheney visited an oil field in Canada. But it's ok, Tom, he got his old Halliburton buddies a big fat NO BID contract. Hey, these guys don't even pretend anymore, they just say the hell with it, and go after the gold. As Michael Douglas said in Wall Street, "Greed is good."

lsbets
09-10-2005, 09:44 PM
You guys (Sec and ljb) are simply pathetic. Like an old broken record, skipping to the worst part of a bad song.

The thing I like best about GWB as Pres? How much he drives you guys nuts!

Secretariat
09-10-2005, 10:05 PM
Is,

FEMA still can't get their act together. How long has it been?

http://www.acadiananow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050910/NEWS05/509100313

And yet in the 2000 Debate with Gore Bush stated:

"And I've got to pay the administration a compliment. James Lee Witt of FEMA has done a really good job of working with governors during times of crisis.

But that's the time when you're tested not only -- it's a time to test your mettle. It's the time to test your heart, when you see people whose lives have been turned upside down. It broke my heart to go to the flood scene in Del Rio where a fellow and his family just got completely uprooted."

What has happened to FEMA?

Kreed
09-10-2005, 10:29 PM
One reason I enjoy this site is because everyone's hand is transparent.
Deuces wild for PA & BoxCar (maybe other lesser players as well)...
If we played poker I woulda dumped BoxCar's respirator; and, Ebay woulda sold PA's Hootie & TheBlowFish albums --- if any RedState citizens didn't already own them. Raise your hands, anyone, if you've been outside the USA (not Canada, plz) in the last 3 months. What we saw in Italy was outright disgust with the USA --- and ditto in Paris. (of course, we defended US) because to be 100% honest was not our role. Yeah keep fighting because what I think BEST for
the USA is def NOT in sync with Neo-Right-Con-TightUps. YOU ARE MY #1 ENEMY-- and I will Never 4give YOU for electing this Moron to ruin my
country, not once but twice. okay, send me two 1st-class tickets to BoraBora
from NYC & I'll overlook That, but THINK. can you Not envision a better world?
are you on that road Now?

DJofSD
09-10-2005, 11:40 PM
What we saw in Italy was outright disgust with the USA --- and ditto in Paris.

Who gives a flying you-know about what the their opinions? Is that how you live your life, by reacting to every single Tom, Dick or Harry that comes down the road? Makes me wonder how you ever get dressed in the morning -- you guys must be a slave to fashion.

Get real, get a life. It's either lead, follow or get out of the way.

DJofSD

Tom
09-11-2005, 01:09 AM
"......every single Tom, Dick or Harry that comes down the road? "

Hey!

PaceAdvantage
09-11-2005, 04:22 AM
Makes me wonder how you ever get dressed in the morning -- you guys must be a slave to fashion.

Get real, get a life. It's either lead, follow or get out of the way.

Say it LOUD and say it PROUD my brother! Amen! A more fitting line attributed to Kreed could never be written! :lol:

ljb
09-11-2005, 11:04 AM
The feds got in just fine. They would have been there a lot sooner had the governor allowed them to utilize their plan.

I read where the governor went to the feds prior to Katrina striking land and the feds said "Sure, we're ready to help, turn it over to us, and off we go." Governor said "thanks but no thanks"

Why do you go to the feds for help, then turn them down when you don't like their plan?

Is this true? If so, why aren't we hanging blanco out to dry?
PA,
What you read is probably not true. Here is a link to the facts. ALL governments, local, state and federal screwed up on this. But the biggest screw up was the federal governments lack of response to this catastrophe. You rightys can spin it anyway you want but, as Truman said, "The buck stops here"
Snippet:
"Andrew Kopplin, Governor Blanco's chief of staff, took a similar position. "This was a bigger natural disaster than any state could handle by itself, let alone a small state and a relatively poor one," Mr. Kopplin said.

Federal officials seem to have belatedly come to the same conclusion. Michael Chertoff, the homeland security secretary, said future "ultra-catastrophes" like Hurricane Katrina would require a more aggressive federal role. And Michael D. Brown, director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, whom President Bush had publicly praised a week earlier for doing "a heck of a job," was pushed aside on Friday, replaced by a take-charge admiral."
link:http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/11/national/nationalspecial/11response.html?ei=5094&en=cd7ee70e1622076b&hp=&ex=1126411200&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

Tom
09-11-2005, 11:30 AM
France and Italy...of COURSE they hate wars....they've never won one!

ljb
09-11-2005, 12:56 PM
Don't know if this one counts but, the french were on our side during the revolutionary war in the 1700s. They could probably count it as half a win. ;)

highnote
09-11-2005, 02:54 PM
Like an old broken record, skipping to the worst part of a bad song.

No matter where the fingers are pointing, this whole Katrina fiasco was one helluva bad song.

PaceAdvantage
09-12-2005, 04:09 AM
PA,
What you read is probably not true.

I read it in the notes a well versed Bush-hater that I work with handed to me. In those notes, were quotes which stated the Governor called the feds and wanted them in (this may have been prior to land strike), and the Bush admin said sure, we'll show up, but we're going to have to declare Marshall Law and do things our way. Governor declined the Bush plan (didn't want to hand over total control to the feds), and the rest is history.

Considering what went down after landfall, Marshall Law seems like a genius plan in hindsight. Like I said, we should be hanging Blanco out to dry.

Can anyone confirm or deny what my Bush-hating co-worker handed to me as fact or fiction?

Secretariat
09-12-2005, 06:53 AM
I read it in the notes a well versed Bush-hater that I work with handed to me. In those notes, were quotes which stated the Governor called the feds and wanted them in (this may have been prior to land strike), and the Bush admin said sure, we'll show up, but we're going to have to declare Marshall Law and do things our way. Governor declined the Bush plan (didn't want to hand over total control to the feds), and the rest is history.

Considering what went down after landfall, Marshall Law seems like a genius plan in hindsight. Like I said, we should be hanging Blanco out to dry.

Can anyone confirm or deny what my Bush-hating co-worker handed to me as fact or fiction?

Read thread: is Blanco to blame?

This isn't let's make a deal. When a Governor makes a request under the Stafford Act, the federal government's options are spelled out in law...It doesn't specify anything about Marshall Law. and "do things our way" as you say. Good lord, we don't live in a dictatorship yet.

If your friend showed you a letter as such I am unaware of it. I doubt sincerely the President would be that stupid, and that coming from a Bush hater.

boxcar
09-12-2005, 01:47 PM
Strange, the media got in. Even Sean Penn got in. Why couldn't the feds get in ?

Yeah, Penn, got "in", alright. In over his head in water!

Moral to this story: If your true intention is to rescue people from a disaster area, then leave your inflated ego and huge publicity-frenzied entourage at home to give the boat a fair chance of staying afloat during the launching of it.

Boxcar

boxcar
09-12-2005, 01:55 PM
One reason I enjoy this site is because everyone's hand is transparent.
Deuces wild for PA & BoxCar (maybe other lesser players as well)...
If we played poker I woulda dumped BoxCar's respirator; and, Ebay woulda sold PA's Hootie & TheBlowFish albums --- if any RedState citizens didn't already own them. Raise your hands, anyone, if you've been outside the USA (not Canada, plz) in the last 3 months. What we saw in Italy was outright disgust with the USA --- and ditto in Paris. (of course, we defended US) because to be 100% honest was not our role. Yeah keep fighting because what I think BEST for
the USA is def NOT in sync with Neo-Right-Con-TightUps. YOU ARE MY #1 ENEMY-- and I will Never 4give YOU for electing this Moron to ruin my
country, not once but twice. okay, send me two 1st-class tickets to BoraBora
from NYC & I'll overlook That, but THINK. can you Not envision a better world?
are you on that road Now?

I would gladly send you the two tickets to "BoraBora", providing both of them are one way and both of you (whoever your other half may be) relinquish your U.S. citizenships. Deal?

Boxcar

Kreed
09-12-2005, 08:00 PM
There's a great pool of very talented people in this country -- in fact, in my
company alone there's awesome talent, so why is moron #43. He doesn't
know much, and like Brownie, 43 lacked any preparation for his job, and never had any coherent strategy --- and now the USA is paying dearly --- and will pay heaps more soon. In every area of concern to guys my age (education & finances & ambition) 43 is a political & social retro. 5 wasted years -- sinking away from modernity. Almost all political pandering. Name two --please ONLY
2 -- Bush accomplishments.

JustRalph
09-12-2005, 08:41 PM
Name two -please ONLY2 -- Bush accomplishments.

Here's a few...............


The Bush Administration 2001-2004
Budget, Taxes & Economy

1. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history.
2. Supports permanent elimination of the death tax.
3. Turned around an inherited economy that was in recession, and deeply shocked as a result of the 9/11 attacks.
4. Is seeking legislation to amend the Constitution to give the president line-item veto authority.
5. In process of permanently eliminating IRS marriage penalty.
6. Increased small business incentives to expand and to hire new people.
7. Initiated discussion on privatizing Social Security and individual investment accounts.
8. Killed Clinton's "ergonomic" rules that OSHA was about to implement; rules would have shut down every home business in America.
9. Passed tough new laws to hold corporate criminals to account as a result of corporate scandals.
10. Reduced taxes on dividends and capital gains.
11. Signed trade promotion authority.
12. Reduced and is working to ultimately eliminate the estate tax for family farms and ranches.
13. Fight Europe's ban on importing biotech crops from the United States.
14. Exempt food from unilateral trade sanctions and embargoes.
15. Provided $20 million to states to help people with disabilities work from home.
16. Created a fund to encourage technologies that help the disabled.
17. Increased the annual contribution limit on Education IRA's from $500 to $2,000 per child.
18. Make permanent the $5,000 adoption tax credit and provide $1 billion over five years to increase the credit to $10,000.
19. Grant a complete tax exemption for prepaid or college tuition savings plans.
20. Reduced H1B visas from a high of 195,000 per year to 66,000 per year.

Education & Employment Training

1. Signed the No Child Left Behind Act, delivering the most dramatic education reforms in a generation (challenging the soft bigotry of low expectations). The very liberal California Teachers union is currently running radio ads against the accountability provisions of this Act.
2. Announced "Jobs for the 21st Century," a comprehensive plan to better prepare workers for jobs in the new millennium by strengthening post-secondary education and job training, and by improving high school education.
3. Is working to provide vouchers to low-income students in persistently failing schools to help with costs of attending private schools. (Blocked in the Senate.)
4. Requires annual reading and math tests in grades three through eight.
5. Requires states to participate in the National Assessment of Education Progress, or an equivalent program, to establish a national benchmark for academic performance.
6. Requires school-by-school accountability report cards.
7. Established a $2.4 billion fund to help states implement teacher accountability systems.
8. Increased funding for the Troops-to-Teachers program, which recruits former military personnel to become teachers.

Abortion & Traditional Values

1. Banned Partial Birth Abortion by far the most significant roll-back of abortion on demand since Roe v. Wade.
2. Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy.
3. By Executive Order (EO), reversed Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act.
4. By EO, prohibited federal funds for international family planning groups that provide abortions and related services.
5. Upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals.
6. Made $33 million available for abstinence education programs in 2004.
7. Supports the Defense of Marriage Act and a Constitutional amendment saying marriage is between one man and one woman.
8. Requires states to conduct criminal background checks on prospective foster and adoptive parents.
9. Requires districts to let students transfer out of dangerous schools.
10. Requires schools to have a zero-tolerance policy for classroom disruption (reintroducing discipline into classrooms).
11. Signed the Teacher Protection Act, which protects teachers from lawsuits related to student discipline.
12. Expanded the role of faith-based and community organizations in after-school programs.

Environment & Energy

1. Killed the Kyoto Global Warming Treaty.
2. Submitted a comprehensive Energy Plan (awaits Congressional action). The plan works to develop cleaner technology, produce more natural gas here at home, make America less dependent on foreign sources of energy, improve national grid, etc.
3. Established a $10 million grant program to promote private conservation initiatives.
4. Significantly eased field-testing controls of genetically engineered crops.
5. Changed parts of the Forestry Management Act to allow necessary cleanup of the national forests in order to reduce fire danger.
6. Part of national forests cleanup: Restricted judicial challenges (based on the Endangered Species Act and other challenges), and removed the need for an Environmental Impact Statement before removing fuels/logging to reduce fire danger.
7. Killed Clinton's CO2 rules that were choking off all of the electricity surplus to California.
8. Provided matching grants for state programs that help private landowners protect rare species.

Defense & Foreign Policy

1. Successfully executed two wars in the aftermath of 9/11/01: Afghanistan and Iraq. 50 million people who had lived under tyrannical regimes now live in freedom.
2. Saddam Hussein is now in prison. His two murderous sons are dead. All but a handful of the regime's senior members were killed or captured.
3. Leader by leader and member by member, al Maida is being hunted down in dozens of countries around the world. Of the senior al Qaeda leaders, operational managers, and key facilitators the U.S. Government has been tracking, nearly two-thirds have been taken into custody or killed. The detentions or deaths of senior al Qaeda leaders, including Khalid Shaykh Muhammad, the mastermind of 9/11, and Muhammad Atef, Osama bin Laden's second-in-command until his death in late 2001, have been important in the War on Terror.
4. Disarmed Libya of its chemical, nuclear and biological WMD's without bribes or bloodshed.
5. Continues to execute the War On Terror, getting worldwide cooperation to track funds/terrorists. Has cut off much of the terrorists' funding, and captured or killed many key leaders of the al Qaeda network.
6. Initiated a comprehensive review of our military, which was completed just prior to 9/11/01, and which accurately reported that ASYMMETRICAL WARFARE capabilities were critical in the 21st Century.
7. Killed the old US/Soviet Union ABM Treaty that was preventing the U.S. from deploying our ABM defenses.
8. Has been one of the strongest, if not THE strongest friend Israel has ever hand in the U.S. presidency.
9. Part of the coalition for an Israeli/Palestinian "Roadmap to Peace," along with Great Britain, Russia and the EU.
10. Pushed through THREE raises for our military. Increased military pay by more than $1 billion a year.
11. Signed the LARGEST nuclear arms reduction in world history with Russia.
12. Started withdrawing our troops from Bosnia, and has announced withdrawal of our troops from Germany and the Korean DMZ.
13. Prohibited putting U.S. troops under U.N. command.
14. Paid back UN dues only in return for reforms and reduction of U.S. share of the costs.
15. Earmarked at least 20 percent of the Defense procurement budget for next-generation weaponry.
16. Increased defense research and development spending by at least $20 billion from fiscal 2002 to 2006.
17. Ordered a comprehensive review of military weapons and strategy.
18. Ordered a review of overseas deployments.
19. Ordered renovation of military housing. The military has already upgraded about 10 percent of its inventory and expects to modernize 76,000 additional homes this year.
20. Is working to tighten restrictions on military-technology exports.
21. Brought back our EP-3 intel plane and crew from China without any bribes or bloodshed.

Globalization & Internationalism

1. Challenged the United Nations to live up to their responsibilities and not become another League of Nations (in other words, showed the UN to be completely irrelevant).
2. Killed U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court.
3. Told the United Nations we weren't interested in their plans for gun control (i.e., the International Ban on Small Arms Trafficking Treaty).*
4. The only President since the founding of the UN to essentially tell that organization it is irrelevant. He said: "The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of UN demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?" We all know the outcome and the answer.
5. Told the Congress and the world, "America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country."

Government Reform

1. Improved government efficiency by putting hundreds of thousands of jobs put up for bid. This weakens public-sector unions and cuts undeserved pay raises.
2. Initiated review of all federal agencies with the goal of eliminating federal jobs (completed September 2003) in an effort to reduce the size of the federal government while increasing private sector jobs.
3. Led the most extensive reorganization the Federal bureaucracy in over 50 years: After 9/11, condensed 20+ overlapping agencies and their intelligence sectors into one agency, the Department of Homeland Security.*
4. Ordered each agency to draft a five-year plan to restructure itself, with fewer managers.
5. Converted federal service contracts to performance-based contracts wherever possible so that the contractor has measurable performance goals.

Homeland Security, Border Enforcement & Immigration

1. *See Government Reform above. Under President Bush's leadership, America has made an unprecedented commitment to homeland security.
2. Has CONSTRUCTION in process on the first 10 ABM silos in Alaska so that America will have a defense against North Korean nukes. Has ordered national and theater ballistic missile defenses to be deployed by 2004.
3. Announced a 9.7% increase in government-wide homeland security funding in his FY 2005 budget, nearly tripling the FY 2001 levels (excluding the Department of Defense and Project BioShield).
4. Before DHS was created, there were inspectors from three different agencies of the Federal Government and Border Patrol officers protecting our borders. Through DHS, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) now consolidates all border activities into a single agency to create "one face at the border." This not only better secures the borders of the United States, but it also eliminates many of the inefficiencies that occurred under the old system. With over 18,000 CBP inspectors and 11,000 Border Patrol agents, CBP has 29,000 uniformed officers on our borders.
5. The Border Patrol is continuing installation of monitoring devices along the borders to detect illegal activity.
6. Launched Operation Tarmac to investigate businesses and workers in the secure areas of domestic airports and ensure immigration law compliance. Since 9/11, DHS has audited 3,640 businesses, examined 259,037 employee records, arrested 1,030 unauthorized workers, and participated in the criminal indictment of 774 individuals.
7. Since September 11, 2001, the Coast Guard has conducted more than 124,000 port security patrols, 13,000 air patrols, boarded more than 92,000 vessels, interdicted over 14,000 individuals attempting to enter the United States illegally, and created and maintained more than 90 Maritime Security Zones.
8. Announced the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS), an internet-based system that is improving America's ability to track and monitor foreign students and exchange visitors. Over 870,000 students are registered in SEVIS. Of 285 completed field investigations, 71 aliens were arrested.
9. This week, the US-VISIT program began to digitally collect biometric identifiers to record the entry and exit of aliens who travel into the U.S on a visa. Together with the standard information, this new program will confirm compliance with visa and immigration policies.
10. Eliminated INS bureaucratic redundancies and lack of accountability.
11. Split the Immigration and Naturalization Service into two agencies: one to protect the border and interior, the other to deal with naturalization.
12. Signed the workplace verification bill to prevent hiring of illegal aliens.
13. Established a six-month deadline for processing immigration applications.
14. Information regarding nearly 100% of all containerized cargo is carefully screened by DHS before it arrives in the United States. Higher risk shipments are physically inspected for terrorist weapons and contraband prior to being released from the port of entry. Advanced technologies are being deployed to identify warning signs of chemical, biological, or radiological attacks. Since September 11, 2001, hundreds of thousands of first responders across America have been trained to recognize and respond to the effects of a WMD attack.


Judiciary & Tort Reform

1. Is urging federal liability reform to eliminate frivolous lawsuits.
2. Killed the liberal ABA's unconstitutional role in vetting federal judges. The Senate is supposed to advise and consent, not the ABA.
3. Is nominating strong, conservative judges to the judiciary.
4. Supports class action reform bill which limits lawyer fees so that more settlement money goes to victims.


Politics

1. His leadership resulted in Republican gains in the House and Senate, solidifying Republican control of both houses of Congress and the presidency.
2. Signed an EO enforcing the Supreme Court's Beck decision regarding union dues being used for political campaigns against individual's wishes.


Second Amendment

1. Ordered Attorney General Ashcroft to formally notify the Supreme Court that the OFFICIAL U.S. government position on the 2nd Amendment is that it supports INDIVIDUAL rights to own firearms, and is NOT a Leftist-imagined "collective" right.
2. Signed TWO bills into law that arm our pilots with handguns in the cockpit.
3. Currently pushing for full immunity from lawsuits for our national gun manufacturers.

Tom
09-12-2005, 09:59 PM
psssst......Ralph.


He said ONLY 2!

highnote
09-12-2005, 10:23 PM
psssst......Ralph.


He said ONLY 2!


:lol: That is funny. :lol: You should be doing standup.

Actually, Ralph's post reminded me of that scene in the Steve Martin movie "Roxanne" where a guy is making fun of Steve Martin's character's big nose. And Steve said is that the best you can do and he rattled off about 50 or so quips about his nose in about a minute. It was a classic scene.

Also, I have to admit, I disagree with a lot of the things in Ralph's list, but by the time I got finished explaining why we would have elected a new president. :D

ljb
09-12-2005, 10:25 PM
Just,
You may want to join Tonto and Box in the "editing for efficiency class".
From Just " 1. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history. "
Resulting in the largest deficit in U.S. history, a deficit our grandchildren will be burdened with.

Secretariat
09-13-2005, 12:33 AM
Just,
You may want to join Tonto and Box in the "editing for efficiency class".
From Just " 1. Signed two income tax cuts, one of which was the largest dollar-value tax cut in world history. "
Resulting in the largest deficit in U.S. history, a deficit our grandchildren will be burdened with.

But Ljb, the deficit is Clinton's fault didn't you know? Besides who cares if you borrow money from communist Red China, by the time people realize how in debt we are, we'll be gone on a yacht somewhere? As Boxcar says, "It's the Dem Rats did it, didn't you know?"...

ljb
09-13-2005, 02:24 AM
Sec,
Methinks Just was confused by the question. He listed all the things Bush has done which are detrimental to our countries well being and he was asked to list two good things Bush has done for our country.
Just, now that you have painfully made your list of Bad things Bush had done, could you perhaps find a couple of good things he has done?

highnote
09-13-2005, 12:31 PM
Sec,
Methinks Just was confused by the question. He listed all the things Bush has done which are detrimental to our countries well being and he was asked to list two good things Bush has done for our country.
Just, now that you have painfully made your list of Bad things Bush had done, could you perhaps find a couple of good things he has done?


:lol: You're as funny as Tom. :lol:

JustRalph
09-13-2005, 04:46 PM
Listen Stinky and Stinkette, you have your definition of good and I have mine.........

highnote
09-13-2005, 05:02 PM
France and Italy...of COURSE they hate wars....they've never won one!

France v. England -- Battle of Hastings in 1066. That was an important victory for France. That French victory is why we use French words words like beef, parliament and legislature. Of course, 1066 as almost a thousand years ago! :D

Tom
09-13-2005, 07:25 PM
France v. England -- Battle of Hastings in 1066. That was an important victory for France. That French victory is why we use French words words like beef, parliament and legislature. Of course, 1066 as almost a thousand years ago! :D

I dunno...is it really a war if they use sticks and dried turds as weapons? :eek:

Steve 'StatMan'
09-13-2005, 07:28 PM
France v. England -- Battle of Hastings in 1066. That was an important victory for France. That French victory is why we use French words words like beef, parliament and legislature. Of course, 1066 as almost a thousand years ago! :D

As a Cubs Fan, I suddenly don't feel so bad anymore! :D

Steve 'StatMan'
09-13-2005, 07:29 PM
I dunno...is it really a war if they use sticks and dried turds as weapons? :eek:

:lol:

highnote
09-13-2005, 08:06 PM
As a Cubs Fan, I suddenly don't feel so bad anymore! :D


:lol:

highnote
09-13-2005, 08:41 PM
I dunno...is it really a war if they use sticks and dried turds as weapons? :eek:


HAHAHA :D

JustRalph
09-13-2005, 10:08 PM
I dunno...is it really a war if they use sticks and dried turds as weapons? :eek:

Oh yeah! It's war.......... a stinky slashing get me a switch affair!

Secretariat
09-13-2005, 11:24 PM
Sec,
Methinks Just was confused by the question. He listed all the things Bush has done which are detrimental to our countries well being and he was asked to list two good things Bush has done for our country.
Just, now that you have painfully made your list of Bad things Bush had done, could you perhaps find a couple of good things he has done?

C'mon, LJB...he plays a mean guitar I hear. And he's not bad on the golf course. And the "worldwide cooperation" line by JR was at least worth a laugh.

highnote
09-13-2005, 11:57 PM
Don't know if this one counts but, the french were on our side during the revolutionary war in the 1700s. They could probably count it as half a win. ;)

The following info is from "Undaunted Courage" by Stephen Ambrose:

Napoleon had title to the Louisana Territory, but he had no power to enforce it. And he knew it.

Here is what he had to say about the sale of Louisiana to the U.S. "Sixty million francs for an occupation that will not perhaps last a day!"

He knew what he was giving up and what the United States was getting -- and the benefit to France, beyond the money: "The sale assures forever the power of the United States, and I have given England a rival who, sooner or later, will humble her pride."

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So the French gave us a lot. However, if they could have kept the Louisiana Territory they would have.