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46zilzal
04-26-2005, 01:06 PM
“How can we trust a Congress that holds hearings on steroids in baseball and yet does not want to find out why our FAA received 52 warnings about hijackings in the summer of 2001?” --Kristin Breitweiser, Husband killed in Twin Towers 9/11/01

Suff
04-26-2005, 01:28 PM
its about Morals you stupid Bastard.. Don't you get it.!!

George Bush has restored dignity to the White House, and has restored Fear in our Enemys. He's defined what is right and what is wrong...and these activist Judges will get whats coming to them.

And Eric Rudolph will Blow up some more Innocent people if he has to...Until America gets the message! Its about morals. Republicans have them, Democrats, and the rest of the world do not.

And stop arguing facts...and stick with the abstract...It's about what is right, what is wrong, morals, fear, activist judges, culture of life, liberal media, and an attack on christianity.

you stupid whacko, commie, socialist bastard! Why dontcha go live in China if you don't like it!

But before you leave, buy your traveling gear at Wal-Mart.

46zilzal
04-26-2005, 01:56 PM
Quote a widow and get labelled...lovely

Another who believes in SIMPLE black and white...You might take up Zoroasterism then...they have it down pat when in reality things are SHADES of gray

46zilzal
04-26-2005, 02:02 PM
Don't know Eric Rudolph...oh yes the bomber guy filled with hate.

attack on Christianity??....there are lots of ways to be moral OUTSIDE the Christian chruch

ljb
04-26-2005, 02:32 PM
its about Morals you stupid Bastard.. Don't you get it.!!

George Bush has restored dignity to the White House, and has restored Fear in our Enemys. He's defined what is right and what is wrong...and these activist Judges will get whats coming to them.

And Eric Rudolph will Blow up some more Innocent people if he has to...Until America gets the message! Its about morals. Republicans have them, Democrats, and the rest of the world do not.

And stop arguing facts...and stick with the abstract...It's about what is right, what is wrong, morals, fear, activist judges, culture of life, liberal media, and an attack on christianity.

you stupid whacko, commie, socialist bastard! Why dontcha go live in China if you don't like it!

But before you leave, buy your traveling gear at Wal-Mart.

Suff,
You the man. But you did forget libs. :lol: :lol: :lol:

46zilzal
04-26-2005, 02:34 PM
Not everyone agrees with Geroge...dissent, that is what is nice about democracy

PaceAdvantage
04-26-2005, 03:44 PM
You ignorant bastards don't even get it when someone is on your side....ROTFLMAOBT

:lol: :lol: :lol:


SUFF IS ON YOUR SIDE ZILZAL!!!! LOL

(and I use the term ignorant bastard in the most loving way)

Suff
04-26-2005, 03:45 PM
You ignorant bastards don't even get it when someone is on your side....ROTFLMAOBT

:lol: :lol: :lol:


SUFF IS ON YOUR SIDE ZILZAL!!!! LOL


yea..what's he stupid? or sumthin?. btw.. I don't take sides, nor prisoners. :eek:

46zilzal
04-26-2005, 03:50 PM
that is what I thought based upon his other posts...but without a face associated or tone in the voce, one never knows.

Secretariat
04-26-2005, 05:07 PM
“How can we trust a Congress that holds hearings on steroids in baseball and yet does not want to find out why our FAA received 52 warnings about hijackings in the summer of 2001?” --Kristin Breitweiser, Husband killed in Twin Towers 9/11/01

46,

They don't really want to know all the information. Why do you think Bush fought tooth and nail to even have an independent commission, and when the public demanded it, what does he do but appoint Kissinger. When the public demanded get someone without such a political slant, a bi-artisan commisison of policticians was set up to investigate it. THere should have been members of the families, scientists, FAA, journalists, and first responders who could cut through the crap and get to the core. Bush never did testify under oath in public about what he knew, but had Cheny hold his hand in private. Ashcroft put a gag order on Sibel Edmonds and now the FBI has prohibited Judicial Watch from being able to fulfill a Freedom of informaiton Act on Osama Bin Laden because the government is concerned about his "privacy" rights.

I've long concluded we will never know the full truth about that day except two planes crashed into those towers and many people died. What really occurred behind the scenes is now mixed with ambiguity and secrecy. Some people may say i'm saying conspiracy. I'm not, just I'd like to see the information come forward from Edmonds, and the FBI drop the nonsense on protecting Osama Bin Laden's privacy rights. If soldiers can go to war in Afghanistan to avenge the loss of those lives on 911, and people can go to Iraq based on an assertion by the President that it has some kind of link to terrorism, it is important the investgiations by the people not be hindered.

ljb
04-26-2005, 05:07 PM
You ignorant bastards don't even get it when someone is on your side....ROTFLMAOBT

:lol: :lol: :lol:


SUFF IS ON YOUR SIDE ZILZAL!!!! LOL

(and I use the term ignorant bastard in the most loving way)
Must you use the term bastard in any way?

PaceAdvantage
04-26-2005, 05:10 PM
Why not? It's NYPD Blue friendly, isn't it?

hcap
04-26-2005, 05:29 PM
Note:

Kristin Breitweiser has stated publicly that she is a Republican who voted for George W. Bush, as did her husband, who died at the World Trade Center.

She voted for Kerry however in 04. Another unpatriotic anti-american? Guess the neos think she is now jest another pinko slimy commie socialist bush hater. To the neos, Rush may have summed it up the best, referring to Kristen Breitweiser and Monica Gabrielle, who, he warned, "are actually part of the Democratic Party machine."

Pigboy explains....

"This is two different women, and they appeared on four networks: CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, and NBC, and they each have three phrases that they use verbatim," Rush explained. "These were prepared by Democratic campaign consultants. In fact, these women sound like campaign consultants, not grieving family members, and I was reluctant to make this charge; it's the first thing that crossed my mind. As I say, we've now learned all the organizational effort that's going on behind this and these people are indeed aligned with the Democratic Party."

I guess he forgot that if it wasn't for Breitweiser and Gabrielle and other 911 families, there would be no 911 investigation. Even as incomplete as it was.

:sleeping: :sleeping:

JustRalph
04-26-2005, 05:56 PM
I guess he forgot that if it wasn't for Breitweiser and Gabrielle and other 911 families, there would be no 911 investigation. Even as incomplete as it was. :sleeping: :sleeping:

It doesn't change the fact that Rush was right. They were both reading from the same script and it was pretty obvious that they had been coached by the Dems. You give them credit for the 911 investigation, yet it revealed nothing of value. It was used as a campaign tactic against the President and those families were drug threw it as pawns of the Dem party. And it was all for nought. We learned hardly nothing of value and the President is still in office. I hoped those families got kissed by Terry Mcaullife before he Fu:eek: ed them.........

Suff
04-26-2005, 06:34 PM
It doesn't change the fact that Rush was right. They were both reading from the same script and it was pretty obvious that they had been coached by the Dems. You give them credit for the 911 investigation, yet it revealed nothing of value. It was used as a campaign tactic against the President and those families were drug threw it as pawns of the Dem party. And it was all for nought. We learned hardly nothing of value and the President is still in office. I hoped those families got kissed by Terry Mcaullife before he Fu:eek: ed them.........
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wow... Low blow there. They worked really hard for thier loved one's that died. Really hard. Additionally they did alot of good. Many people think they were the most influenential citizen's group in our Nation's history. Meanwhile, the US govt has, and continues to implement changes recommended by the 911 panel.


http://www.911independentcommission.org/

When the Commission concluded its investigation, it issued a report containing 41 recommendations for improving our nation's security. The report did not answer all of our questions, but its in-depth analysis of intelligence, foreign policy, security and other failures and subsequent recommendations for improvement were reforms we could endorse. The FSC then focused our efforts on ensuring that those recommendations would be implemented. Congress responded by holding hearings and drafting legislation. After a rigorous battle, a bill incorporating many of the 9/11 Commission recommendations passed both Houses of Congress and was signed into law on December 17, 2004.
After three years of work toward making America more secure, the FSC is transitioning in order to address issues such as the release of the still embargoed 9/11 CIA and FAA reports; terrorist financing; immigration reform; the remaining recommendations of the 9/11 Commission; and other issues that continue to emerge. Although the FSC as a group will no longer exist, many of us will continue to work individually and through other 9/11 related groups for these causes.

In closing, our heartfelt thanks go out to the countless Americans who supported us and whose words of encouragement and recent expressions of gratitude made our difficult journey worthwhile.

JustRalph
04-26-2005, 07:24 PM
Suff: I don't agree that any of those changes make us any safer than were were before. Therein lies my view of the families. They were used as political fodder and it accomplished nothing. I don't think much of the committee or the report, let alone the changes. All smoke and talk.

I don't think the government should have paid those families either.........but that is different subject all together.

Tom
04-26-2005, 08:00 PM
Back to 46's oringinal post...I gotta agree with him. A few doper ball players gets priority over porous borders, an invasion of illegals from a hostile nation-Mexico, the president supporting and sucking up to the worst POS leader in the world- Fox, who is basically telling the world his country is such a miserble excuse of a nation and he has no plans to do things to improve it, other than help his people escape and come here.Yikes, what the hell is congress doing???

I KNOW what Bush is doing, when he is not sucking up to Fox and tha Canandian clown, he hsi literally holding hands with one of the clown princes of Sorry Arabia....what is he....GAY????? Reminds me of that LV commercial...what happens in Crawford, STAYS in Crawford.

But damn:rolleyes: , we warned dem ballpalyers, didn't we?

Suff
04-27-2005, 09:07 AM
Suff: I don't agree that any of those changes make us any safer than were were before. Therein lies my view of the families. They were used as political fodder and it accomplished nothing. I don't think much of the committee or the report, let alone the changes. All smoke and talk.

I don't think the government should have paid those families either.........but that is different subject all together.

Everything's Poltical Fodder when people show how things were mismanaged and questions went unanswered.

Who told you they were used as Poltical Fodder? Rush Limbaugh? Was he High at the time? Because that may have effected his Judgement. I know when I'm high, I don't think as clearer. So maybe he was high? Or worse yet "Kickin".. because I know the last three times he got out of rehab he had a hard time kickin....and you may know, that can affect judgement. I mean, you probably arrested Many people in Rush's predicament...so you have first hand experience in see'ing how irresponsible people addicted to Drugs, or dealing with the detox'ing can be..

I personally, don't line up behind People with an opinion on 9-11 that hate America to begin with. Because New York is in America, and is a big part of America...Yet where your from "New York" is a swear word. You don't think we know that people sit around bashing New York in the Red States? Of course we do... so excuse me if I don't run to the front of the line while Red States pound the desk about 9-11-01. Because the Fact is, and I have been meaning to bring this point to PA's attention, that Most people in the Red States could give a F*** less what happens to New York. They spend considerable time, bad mouthing it, and blaming its elite liberal snobs for thier problems. So I have no time, nor interest in thier opinions on 9-11-01.

And it bothers me even more that in "New Yorks" name, we launched a War on terror, when the fact is, most Red States HATE what New York stands for, and consider them as equal a threat to them as Osama bin laden.

Brutal truth.

Equineer
04-27-2005, 03:08 PM
Must you use the term bastard in any way?Languages evolve just like mankind and all living organisms... consider the source before you decide that an insult has been hurled... for example, in the religious wingnut lexicon, bastards are a desirable product of the Pro-Life initiatives. :)

NoDayJob
04-27-2005, 03:23 PM
[QUOTE=Tom] he hsi literally holding hands with one of the clown princes of Sorry Arabia....what is he....GAY?????

:lol: In the Arab world men holding hands is a sign of friendship. However, wearing dark glasses (da Prince) is a sign of mistrust. Eye to eye contact is a sign of trust. :lol:

NDJ

PaceAdvantage
04-27-2005, 03:36 PM
I personally, don't line up behind People with an opinion on 9-11 that hate America to begin with. Because New York is in America, and is a big part of America...Yet where your from "New York" is a swear word. You don't think we know that people sit around bashing New York in the Red States? Of course we do... so excuse me if I don't run to the front of the line while Red States pound the desk about 9-11-01. Because the Fact is, and I have been meaning to bring this point to PA's attention, that Most people in the Red States could give a F*** less what happens to New York. They spend considerable time, bad mouthing it, and blaming its elite liberal snobs for thier problems. So I have no time, nor interest in thier opinions on 9-11-01.

Although I had to edit your use of a banned word, I unfortunately have to AGREE with you on this one. I experienced much NY bashing when I went away to school and met guys from down south and out west. I knew it existed before then, but I didn't realize people were this serious about their hatred for all things NY. So I wouldn't be surprised if everything you just wrote was 100% true.

Suff
04-27-2005, 03:41 PM
Although I had to edit your use of a banned word, I unfortunately have to AGREE with you on this one. I experienced much NY bashing when I went away to school and met guys from down south and out west. I knew it existed before then, but I didn't realize people were this serious about their hatred for all things NY. So I wouldn't be surprised if everything you just wrote was 100% true.


Yes. streaming consciousness on that banned word. My error. Sorry.

Equineer
04-27-2005, 04:16 PM
I think the trend has been going the other way since the late 50s and the 60s when New Yorkers and their ethnic accents were mocked throughout the South, Midwest, and Plains/Mountain states.

Today, with the way young people migrate so frequently in pursuit of career advancement, if you reach 40 without ever having worked in NYC, it's almost a concession that you couldn't make it to the Big Show.

Most smart kids want the satisfaction of having proved themselves in NYC... or a least in Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, or Seattle.

Tom
04-27-2005, 11:29 PM
[QUOTE=Tom] he hsi literally holding hands with one of the clown princes of Sorry Arabia....what is he....GAY?????

:lol: In the Arab world men holding hands is a sign of friendship. However, wearing dark glasses (da Prince) is a sign of mistrust. Eye to eye contact is a sign of trust. :lol:

NDJ

When the Sorry Arabians were scared of Sadam invading them, the were quick to call on us to save thier Sorry butts. A sing of frinedship would be to increase produciton of oil and give us a discount without our having to ask for it.
First Vic Fox now this SOB. Bush sure picks losers for friends.

NoDayJob
04-28-2005, 03:14 PM
First Vic Fox now this SOB. Bush sure picks losers for friends.


You are so right. But most politicians are losers themselves and birds of a feather -------.

NDJ

Tom
04-30-2005, 03:09 AM
Perhaps we could outsoure the presidency....maybe save money on the salary!