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Secretariat
04-14-2005, 09:44 PM
Why is this adminstration so afraid of people learning the truth?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050415/ap_on_go_pr_wh/education_investigation

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050415/ap_on_go_ot/foia_lawsuits

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050415/ap_on_re_us/tillman_investigation

JustRalph
04-14-2005, 10:03 PM
I just wonder if you were asking the same questions when the previous administration was invoking executive privilege.

PRIVILEGE CLAIMS BY THE CLINTON ADMIN
1993 - to block an inspection of Vince Foster's files after his suicide
1994 - to block turning over documents from its ethics review regarding Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy
1995 - to block lawyer's notes from conversations with Hillary Clinton
1996 - to block turning over documents relating to arms shipments from Iran to Bosnia
1996 - to block turning over a memo by FBI Director Louis Freeh criticizing the drug policy
1996 - to block turning over documents subpoenaed concerning Haiti police violence
1996 - to block turning over Travel Office documents
1997 - to block turning over campaign finance related records
1997 - to block testimony of Bruce Lindsey concerning James Riady - campaign finance
1997 - to block turning over documents pertaining to cancellation of an Indian casino
1998 - to block testimony of Paul Begala - filegate
1998 - to block grand jury testimony of Bruce Lindsey and Sidney Blumenthal - Lewinsky
1998 - to block grand jury testimony of Bruce Lindsey ("attorney client") - Lewinsky
1998 - to block Secret Service testimony - Lewinsky (new privilege, "protective function") - Lewinksy
1998 - to block answers to 2 questions Hillary Clinton ("spousal privilege") - Whitewater RDMHQ Funding Document
Secret 3rd privilege claim.

Secretariat
04-14-2005, 11:17 PM
Jr,

Let me get this right. So what you consider egregious actions by Clinton, justify egregious actions by Bush. Boy, sounds like a win win for our country.

DJofSD
04-15-2005, 12:09 AM
Naw, I think it's more of the pot calling the kettle black.

DJofSD

Tom
04-15-2005, 01:40 AM
Secretariat...Blinkers ON

hurrikane
04-15-2005, 06:06 AM
you kill me Tom :lol: :lol: :lol:

JustRalph
04-15-2005, 07:04 AM
Naw, I think it's more of the pot calling the kettle black.

DJofSD

Thanks...............dead on!

Lefty
04-15-2005, 11:50 AM
hcap, these "earthshaking" stories are a tribute to how far and picayune the libs get to tarnish this adm. But the big stuff in past asm's completely "whitewashed." Even now, the press making a big stink about delay over a 4 yr old story and something that's completely legal while they have not asked ONE QUESTION of Hillary about the guy who worked for her that's going to jail for fraud. Why don't you get riled by THAT!
Excuse me while I try to laugh and puke simultaneously almost at the same time.

Secretariat
04-15-2005, 01:31 PM
Lefty, I'm sorry you consider the true story of Tillman's death coming out "picayune", or the policies of a man who ran as "the Education" president being revealed "picayune". Go back to FOX and let Hannity tell you what to think while you are watching the Michael Jackson trial.

ljb
04-15-2005, 02:30 PM
Lefty, Go back to FOX and let Hannity tell you what to think while you are watching the Michael Jackson trial.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Lefty
04-15-2005, 08:18 PM
sec, no I don't consider Tillman's death picayune but the left's slant on it picayune and dreadful. Hannity tells me nothing but he doesn't hold up fake documents like Rather. So why don't you libs go back to your little liberal world and your sour outlook on life? BTW, boys, guess you loved that liberal cartoonist who said Tillman was a fool for going to Iraq and not taking the football contract? You guys making me a little sicker every day. And hmmm, how did i know when I wrote that that I was going to get some b.s. from you and poor lbj couldn't think of anything(what's new?)so he just cut and pasted. Wow, lbj, what reparte'

Lefty
04-15-2005, 08:21 PM
sec, maybe I should of said "nitpicking"? Yes, take out the word picayune and substitute "nitpicking" Hope that satisfies. I'm here to help you...

ljb
04-15-2005, 09:06 PM
Lefty,
You should check with Hannity before you post notes here. Now you are saying the death of a war hero is trivial and just a few weeks back you were weeping and moaning over the removal of a feeding tube from a body. What are you, callous or bleeding heart? Maybe your just one of them flip-flopping neo-cons.
Oh and reading sec's note still makes me :lol:

Lefty
04-15-2005, 09:37 PM
lbj, I guess you have a serious reading defect. I wasn't trivializing the death of a war hero i was commenting on the nitpicking of the left. BTW, I didn't see any posts by you defending the war hero when that liberal cartoonist called him a fool after he had been killed. Where were ya then buddy boy?

Secretariat
04-15-2005, 09:59 PM
Hannity tells me nothing

Well, I agree with the above at least.

Why do you make this a "lib" issue. It's Tillman's father who said he wasn't satisfied. Perhaps he is a lib.

"The family got a briefing on the inquiry "only a couple of weeks ago," said Lt. Col. Hans Bush, chief of public affairs for the Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg, N.C., which conducted the latest investigation.

Bush said there was "a degree of satisfaction expressed by the family."

Patrick Tillman Sr., when asked by The Arizona Republic whether it was true that the family was satisfied, responded: "No. And I don't want to talk about it." "

Lefty
04-16-2005, 02:10 AM
I don't know if Tillman's father is a lib or not, not the point. Point is the liberal media will find anything they can attack Bush on and of course, you always agree. You didn't anser my question; you or lbj. Where was your outrage when the liberal cartoonist called this dead soldier a fool?

ljb
04-16-2005, 11:52 AM
lbj, I guess you have a serious reading defect. I wasn't trivializing the death of a war hero i was commenting on the nitpicking of the left. BTW, I didn't see any posts by you defending the war hero when that liberal cartoonist called him a fool after he had been killed. Where were ya then buddy boy?
Sorry Lefty,

I did not see any cartoon calling Tillman a fool. Was it on Faux infotainment?

Buckeye
04-16-2005, 12:04 PM
Because they voted for this Administration.

Happy again?

Lefty
04-16-2005, 12:25 PM
lbj, it was a national cartoon by a liberal cartoonist and it was covered extensively on the news. I forget the guy's name. And yes, the cartoonist was interviewed on Hannity and Colmes so maybe you'd better watch Fox News so you'd know what the hell's going on.
If any you other guys remember this and the cartoonist's name, feel free to weigh in.

ljb
04-16-2005, 12:30 PM
lbj, it was a national cartoon by a liberal cartoonist and it was covered extensively on the news. I forget the guy's name. And yes, the cartoonist was interviewed on Hannity and Colmes so maybe you'd better watch Fox News so you'd know what the hell's going on.
If any you other guys remember this and the cartoonist's name, feel free to weigh in.
Well now there you go. If it was on Hannity, it was most likely fake. Real news coverage tries to minimize fake news. Break loose with a buck Lefty and buy a newspaper, it would be enlightening to you.

Lefty
04-16-2005, 07:45 PM
It was on all the news but evidently you really don't read or watch news, just liberal blogs. They had the actual cartoonist and showed the actual cartoon. I guess you also nevrer so the racist cartoons directed toward Condildsa Rice either! If you just want to pretend things don't exist just because they are covered by Fox then there's no way anyone can have a discussion with you; so until you grow up, i'm not wasting any more time with you.

ljb
04-16-2005, 08:08 PM
Hey Lefty, Look around, is there a little guy saying "hey boss de plane, de plane?"

JustRalph
04-16-2005, 10:02 PM
The Cartoon did exist. The Cartoonist was thrown out of some papers over it.

The Condaleeza Rice stuff was pretty rough too.

Rice and Colin Powell have both been portrayed as Apes in different cartoons in the last few years and the left wing media gets away with it. If those same cartoons were drawn by someone on the right...........the media would have gone wild about it.

Lefty
04-16-2005, 11:06 PM
Thanks, JR, but ol' deaf and blind lbj knows nothing about it. Think he's been watching the lifetime channel with Kreed!

Secretariat
04-17-2005, 12:39 AM
lbj, it was a national cartoon by a liberal cartoonist and it was covered extensively on the news. I forget the guy's name. And yes, the cartoonist was interviewed on Hannity and Colmes so maybe you'd better watch Fox News so you'd know what the hell's going on.
If any you other guys remember this and the cartoonist's name, feel free to weigh in.

I don't know what you're even talking about Lefty. I don't watch cartoons, except the Bush press conferences.

Tom
04-17-2005, 01:06 AM
He must have seen it...he gets his news from the Cartoon Network!

:lol:

Lefty
04-17-2005, 01:16 AM
sec, this was a print cartoon that appeared in newspapers and was extensively reported in the news. You guys seem proud you don't watch Fox News and then you end up admitting ignorance. Give yourself a brk, watch Fox and maybe then you guys can keep up.
And if you're just trying to be funny, then please, give us a brk and take some humor writing lessons.