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cj
03-18-2005, 07:51 PM
Wife is out of town, so I'm up WAY past my normal bed time, playing a few night tracks. I'm watching Turfway and see a horse with a HUGE figure edge (15 points, about 6 or so lengths) going off at 5-2. This is as they load, with 0 MTP. I decide this guy is worth a bet. He sits chilly outside a few, but looks the winner every step of the way. As they near the stretch, and I see him take the lead, I can't help but notice my 5-2 drop to 8-5! Not 2-1, not 9-5, but 8-5. Now I know why I go to bed early. At least he won :)

Show Me the Wire
03-18-2005, 07:56 PM
cj:

Late action is common at Turfway and the will pays are telling. This is a track for tote master and the Chinese Doubles. And the huge form reversal due to the winterized racing surface.

cj
03-18-2005, 08:07 PM
Thanks for the info, I'll tread lightly!

Here is another Turfway-ism I guess:
Out broke rider

That is the actual comment for a horse! What the hell does that mean?

Show Me the Wire
03-18-2005, 08:40 PM
cj:

Horse left the gate without the rider, really.

ratpack
03-18-2005, 09:12 PM
You have to have watch those small tracks very close. I liked a horse at Hastings that was 30-1 early in the betting and stayed that way for awhile but then started to drop and by post time was 5-2. He did win.

sjk
03-19-2005, 06:33 AM
I bet one at TP the other night that was 11-1 at 1 MTP and paid $10.20.

cj
03-19-2005, 07:31 AM
I also played Sam Houston. Wow, I had no idea the win pools were so small there.

sjk
03-19-2005, 07:40 AM
Some tracks are just unplayable. I love playing Prairie Meadows but after the 4th of July the pools are so small that at 2 MTP you have to bet with $2,000 in the exacta pool or risk getting shut out. Then its just a matter of time before you get burned on a few payoffs and give up.

Buddha
03-19-2005, 11:46 AM
Wife is out of town, so I'm up WAY past my normal bed time, playing a few night tracks. I'm watching Turfway and see a horse with a HUGE figure edge (15 points, about 6 or so lengths) going off at 5-2.


There was one at MNR last night that had about a 20 point edge and was 6/1 ML. Hoping I would get a price, and teh horse opened up at even money and never budged. You didnt bet that one did ya CJ :eek:

cj
03-19-2005, 12:54 PM
No, I had to sleep eventually! Did he win?

melman
03-19-2005, 04:05 PM
Being a harness guy Craig, I know all about small tracks and lower handles. Most of mine go up in price at the end. :D But that's just me. :D

ElKabong
03-19-2005, 04:13 PM
The mid sized traacks have this problem too. Just now watched LRL race 7, Quick Punch was 9-5 nearing the gate on brisbets tote, a fair price for him. (Rodman called "the 9-5 favorite" approaching the gate"). Then it clicked to 8-5. Then next click, even money (not a fair price).

Last I saw, the win pool had 48k. Not large, but definitely not small either.

Zaf
03-19-2005, 11:59 PM
I was watching the 4th race at Penn National Friday Night and The #4 Pollys Folly took a 5 length lead at the 1/4 pole and was 3-1. As she was coming into the stretch she was 3-2 :eek: :eek: :eek:

ZAFONIC

Buddha
03-20-2005, 12:34 AM
No, I had to sleep eventually! Did he win?

Of course he won, though I coudlnt get the 2nd half of the double to come in :(

breakage
03-20-2005, 12:36 AM
If a horse pops out of the gate and opens a quick open length lead at Penn National (or the Penn owned Charlestown) you can usually expect to see a drop in odds, and sometimes it's a large drop.