JPinMaryland
03-09-2005, 04:32 AM
Given what you've said about your figs and how you create them, isnt it possible for a horse to finish second (or even third) and still get a better overall figure than the horse that won?
This would not seem impossible and given what you've said I would think that sooner or later it should happen.
Even more well known figure maker such as Beyer should be have this happen on occasion. Yes? I mean Beyer takes pains to demonstrate to the reader how three different horses with the exact same final time could run different speed numbers. All of this of course based upon pace analysis...
For example take the race won by Southern Africa last week. Classic example of a closer picking up the pieces of a speed duel. THor's Echo got into a fast paced duel but still he only lost by one length or so...
If I understand your reasoning/theory, closers are often overrated in terms of Beyer Speed figures (or other speed figs) because they are sort of getting the advantage of horses having backed up. Something like that.
Well, then it seems to me this race should be a classic example if I understand you. Thor's Echo should not be penalized too greatly, after all he did the hard work setting the early pace and he only lost by a length. So. AFrica on the other hand was a classic example of picking up the pieces of a speed duel.
So can a loser still get a higher speed fig. then the winner? Why or why not? If your theory is consistent it would seem that it should happen on occasion.
This would not seem impossible and given what you've said I would think that sooner or later it should happen.
Even more well known figure maker such as Beyer should be have this happen on occasion. Yes? I mean Beyer takes pains to demonstrate to the reader how three different horses with the exact same final time could run different speed numbers. All of this of course based upon pace analysis...
For example take the race won by Southern Africa last week. Classic example of a closer picking up the pieces of a speed duel. THor's Echo got into a fast paced duel but still he only lost by one length or so...
If I understand your reasoning/theory, closers are often overrated in terms of Beyer Speed figures (or other speed figs) because they are sort of getting the advantage of horses having backed up. Something like that.
Well, then it seems to me this race should be a classic example if I understand you. Thor's Echo should not be penalized too greatly, after all he did the hard work setting the early pace and he only lost by a length. So. AFrica on the other hand was a classic example of picking up the pieces of a speed duel.
So can a loser still get a higher speed fig. then the winner? Why or why not? If your theory is consistent it would seem that it should happen on occasion.