Flower Bowl

[cj]

What an embarrassing ride by Joel Rosario. I'm speechless. I didn't even bet the race, but you could see very early on he was begging for trouble.

[JustRalph]

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/race/usa/sar/2022/9/3/10/flower-bowl-s-g2t

He’s on the 2nd place finisher

[Tom]

I had to shave midway arounf the last turn.

[HandyKapper]

What an embarrassing ride by Joel Rosario. I'm speechless. I didn't even bet the race, but you could see very early on he was begging for trouble.

I saw where Andy didn't agree with what some of us thought was a horrible ride.

[burnsy]

It’s my one knock on Rosario . He is not aggressive enough , never has been. Especially, at Saratoga . That’s why Irad cleans up here. I’ve been coming here for 40 plus years. Being in front or in striking range is …….. huge! Cordero did it , Bailey did it . Now Irad. Won 4 today I believe. You gotta take it and want it. If people think you’re too much and give you crap ..,,.. even better. If you get a cheap lead here and the better horse is too far back , under dry circumstances, game over ! Being overly patient here just to save ground …… no. Schooled . It’s funny how people don’t think that works here. If you let guys like this off the hook with easy pickings early . They literally can dictate a race. As good as this horse is what do you expect? I believe the last quarter was the fastest. Gotta look at it just got home . Burnt 🥵 . Tom? Was it just a shave or did you get a haircut too? Asking for a friend . :lol:

[Al Gobbi]

Rosario is a good rider but he is too inconsistent on a regular basis

[$w1fT]

According to TLG anyone who criticizes the ride is an idiot. Never mind the fact that he is overly complementary of Rosario and unnecessarily condescending to bettors on Twitter.

[cj]

According to TLG anyone who criticizes the ride is an idiot. Never mind the fact that he is overly complementary of Rosario and unnecessarily condescending to bettors on Twitter.

Come on, that isn't what he said. He disagreed, which is fine. The entire premise of the game is about disagreeing with others. Andy is entitled to be wrong sometimes. :)

[$w1fT]

Come on, that isn't what he said. He disagreed, which is fine. The entire premise of the game is about disagreeing with others. Andy is entitled to be wrong sometimes. :)

Ok I maybe didn’t take the words verbatim but me and you know he looks down on the “nitwits” on Twitter. (His words not mine)

The way the FOX broadcast has unnecessarily promoted jockeys all meet it should not be out of bounds to criticize a jocks ride on a 1-5.

[SBD400]

It was a terrible ride, hard to understand anyone saying otherwise.

[the little guy]

According to TLG anyone who criticizes the ride is an idiot.

Feel free to find the evidence of this. When you can't, apologize and then stop lying about me.

Thanks in advance.

[westernmassbob]

Joel is 12 wins shy and 1 million away from matching Irad’s numbers. But wait ! Irad has 80!!!!! more starts then Joel. What a meet Joel is having.

[metro]

WLG looked to be comfortable the entire trip, never really got checked or had to alter course, and finished as she always does. Just came up short.

On the surface it looks bad but to change the outcome would mean to change her running style to one of more of a stalking/pressing type. That would have meant running, without cover, at least two wide but possible three of four wide for a 3 turn race. That's not her game, and unless Rosario was told by Mott otherwise, he rode her exactly to the trainer's instructions.

[classhandicapper]

He gave that horse the perfect ride if she was a 15-1 shot that needed to save some ground and hope to get some pace help up front in order to win.

When you are riding a 1-5 shot in a small to moderate sized field the primary objective is to stay out of trouble outside.

It looked like a paceless race going into it. There’s not much he could do about that, but you don’t want to give the other riders a chance to race ride and keep you pinned in too far back on top of that. That’s the #1 way you are going to lose. The laughable part about it is that before the race someone asked me if she could get beat and I said “the only way she gets beat is if she gets pinned in until too late because this pace is going to be very slow”.

After going inside, he had one chance early to drop back a little and get outside and he chose not to do it. That allowed the others to keep him pinned in and have too much to do late.

[Suff]

I love hearing Jockeys say.


Godammn you thinks it's easy!! WE ARE FOLLOWED BY AN AMBULANCE ! We are making split second decisions!!

6 Furlings in 119. 😆.

[MJC922]

I just watched it. Not terrible but I think the problem with the ride is indecision and a lack of a real plan. When you're much the best in this situation on a closer in what is essentially a marathon three-turn race and drawn toward the inside it's probably better to walk out and snug down drop back to last then tip out to go one off the rail for most of the trip so you can move when it's critical to. The horse has hard luck as many closers do, tactical disadvantages. I thought the BC race for this horse was a terrible ride tbh, the rider absolutely emptied her out in a rush so much so that she flattened in deep stretch. She needed to move at that point but it was done so abruptly and widest it was like a total desperation move. I love the horse btw but it's tough to watch. I hate to be too critical of these riders, it's not easy, I would not do much better (probably worse) if I were making these decisions on the fly in the saddle.

[Tom]

I've seen more agessive rides on a merry-go-round.

But it wasn't the worst ride of the meet.
Not even top 20.

[Inner Dirt]

I don't know the horse nor did I look at the Racing Form. I would say masterful ride on the :3: more than bad ride on the :4:. Pedestrian like fractions all the way to the head of the stretch. The :4:was never impeded during the whole journey and was in the clear with enough distance left to win 95% of the time with that late charge. The jockey on the :3: lulled them all to sleep and had too much left for the stretch run.

[Tom]

I've seen more agessive rides on a merry-go-round.

But it wasn't the worst ride of the meet.
Not even top 20.

Correction. After today's races, it's not even in the top 25~! :bang:

[Brass Hat]

I blame myself for jinxing her. If I can't find a way to make money inside the race with an odds on horse, I will usually single that horse in a multi-race wager, which I usually never play and which, when I do, I never win.

Looking at the early pace figures I could not determine who would be on the lead, but since Rosario had her closer to the pace in her previous two races I did not think it would be a problem for her. I did not expect he would take her back but I always assume there is a good reason for Rosario to do so.