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Al Gobbi
08-19-2022, 08:01 PM
Jamie Ness, a prolific winner in the Mid-Atlantic states and the third-leading trainer in the country in wins, has been handed a six-month suspension by the Pennsylvania Racing Commission after a horse he trained tested positive for Bufotenine.

Ness was also fined $5,000. The suspension is scheduled to begin Sept. 5 and runs through March 3, 2023.

The positive test occurred in a Feb. 23 race at Parx and involves the horse Crabs N Beer. The 3-year-old gelding won the race, a starter-optional claimer by 2 1/2 lengths as the 3-5 favorite.


https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/ness-receives-six-month-suspension-in-pa-has-appealed/

azeri98
08-20-2022, 10:10 AM
This guy is a habitual cheater, can't believe he hasn't been handed a Dutrow sentence.

lamboguy
08-20-2022, 10:18 AM
this guy has been winning lots of races for a long time. he's impossible to beat and most of his stock lately is owned by him so he gets the bulk of the money. he's been doing much better than when he worked for Midwest Thoroughbreds and only got 5% of the purse from them with a week's pay!

Midwest got all the money and then quit the game.

Tom
08-20-2022, 12:48 PM
So it will be good to know who takes over for him......

myohmyjustify
08-21-2022, 09:50 PM
The positive test result came back six months ago or so, not long after the Feb. 23 race. Why didn't they stop him then?



Ness won a bunch of races and owners and bettors lost a pile of money since due to his cheating.

PaceAdvantage
08-21-2022, 09:55 PM
Why didn't they stop him then?Duh. Because he didn't try choking a woman...

myohmyjustify
08-21-2022, 10:18 PM
Duh. Because he didn't try choking a woman...


I don't know what's you angle but choking a woman and dragging her down a flight of stairs is a serious matter, although it seems you and some others may not agree with me.

1st time lasix
08-21-2022, 11:20 PM
Any handicapper who has followed Tampa and Eastern Atlantic racing knows this guy should in prison for larceny. The hall of shame with Servis, Navarro etc ….

PaceAdvantage
08-21-2022, 11:51 PM
I don't know what's you angle but choking a woman and dragging her down a flight of stairs is a serious matter, although it seems you and some others may not agree with me.Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Your insight is invaluable.

lamboguy
08-22-2022, 12:26 AM
the stuff they supposedly caught Ness with is to obvious. my guess is he will get through this with an appeal somehow and maybe rightfully so.

myohmyjustify
08-22-2022, 11:03 AM
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Your insight is invaluable.


The PA commission knows a Ness horse had a bad test in Feb./March -- six months ago and did nothing about it. Do you agree or not about that? They did nothing and the cheating deprived both owners and bettors of a fair shake, then and for six months since.

Yet you made a stupid joke based on a different thread, and after my response to your stupid joke, you knock me. Typical.

Yes my insight is invaluable, but PA and the fanboys can't fathom their heros doing a single thing wrong -- such as Ness's cheating and Brown's violance.

Inner Dirt
08-22-2022, 11:14 AM
So I Google that drug, it comes up as a hallucinogenic made from poisonous toads. What does it do when given to a horse? I always wonder how they come up with some of the things they do. Have their always been rogue equine veterinarians running experimental horse farms?

PaceAdvantage
08-22-2022, 11:33 AM
The PA commission knows a Ness horse had a bad test in Feb./March -- six months ago and did nothing about it. Do you agree or not about that? They did nothing and the cheating deprived both owners and bettors of a fair shake, then and for six months since.

Yet you made a stupid joke based on a different thread, and after my response to your stupid joke, you knock me. Typical.

Yes my insight is invaluable, but PA and the fanboys can't fathom their heros doing a single thing wrong -- such as Ness's cheating and Brown's violance.Now I'm a Ness fanboy...in addition to being a Chad fanboy.

Here's a challenge:

reproduce ONE (and you only need 1) post on this message board where I either explicitly or implicitly display some sort of FANBOYism of Jamie Ness in the past 20 years...(this thread not included, of course...)

I'm not even in the SLIGHTEST defending Ness here...yes, I made a joke...possibly in bad taste...but that is all it was.

IN ADDTION

Please reproduce ONE post where I act as a CHAD BROWN fanboy (other than the assault thread of the past week).

All you need is ONE.

I'm betting you can't find any. I can't remember the last time I wrote about Chad Brown before his arrest.

Again, your insight is invaluable.

lamboguy
08-22-2022, 11:50 AM
a horse can and often does take in traces of Bufotenine while grazing on grass. and horses often graze on grass

taking precautions for that to happen is another story in itself

Robert Fischer
08-22-2022, 11:50 AM
So I Google that drug, it comes up as a hallucinogenic made from poisonous toads. What does it do when given to a horse? I always wonder how they come up with some of the things they do. Have their always been rogue equine veterinarians running experimental horse farms?


allegedly some horses have a huge ego where they won't 'track' a rival or uncoupled speed horse...

some horses go into 'berserker mode' where they will seemingly run through a brick wall

still others ponder things like carrots and peppermints believing they've made some sort of profound discovery

/joke

I don't know, man. Good questions. Some of these drugs like toad poison, cobra venom, ketamine, etc... etc... seem like terrible ideas for performance enhancers, yet guys are winning at 30% getting caught.

myohmyjustify
08-22-2022, 11:54 AM
Now I'm a Ness fanboy...in addition to being a Chad fanboy.

Here's a challenge:

reproduce ONE (and you only need 1) post on this message board where I either explicitly or implicitly display some sort of FANBOYism of Jamie Ness in the past 20 years...(this thread not included, of course...)

I'm not even in the SLIGHTEST defending Ness here...yes, I made a joke...possibly in bad taste...but that is all it was.

IN ADDTION

Please reproduce ONE post where I act as a CHAD BROWN fanboy (other than the assault thread of the past week).

All you need is ONE.

I'm betting you can't find any. I can't remember the last time I wrote about Chad Brown before his arrest.

Again, your insight is invaluable.


OK OK OK, I did not accuse you directly but I could understand you thinking that I did.

But my first post in the Brown thread was met with Suff saying I was "piling on", and then he posted a picture of himself and Brown, a fanboy photo in a high order. Then Wisconsin made his stupid comments, the worse being about the victim.

I agree with you. You did not make any pro-Brown, pro-Ness comments. But you seem to say I am wrong to question why the PA Commission did nothing for 6 months about his bad positive.

And you did make dumb comments against my posts calling for Brown to be suspended by NYRA on the idea he didn't his choking and dragging the victim on NYRA grounds, etc.

To use your line of thinking what did Bob Baffert or Eric Guillot do on NYRA grounds that warranted their suspensions??

Your insights are "invaluable" as well, don't kid yourself.

PaceAdvantage
08-22-2022, 04:02 PM
OK OK OK, I did not accuse you directly but I could understand you thinking that I did.

But my first post in the Brown thread was met with Suff saying I was "piling on", and then he posted a picture of himself and Brown, a fanboy photo in a high order. Then Wisconsin made his stupid comments, the worse being about the victim.

I agree with you. You did not make any pro-Brown, pro-Ness comments. But you seem to say I am wrong to question why the PA Commission did nothing for 6 months about his bad positive.

And you did make dumb comments against my posts calling for Brown to be suspended by NYRA on the idea he didn't his choking and dragging the victim on NYRA grounds, etc.

To use your line of thinking what did Bob Baffert or Eric Guillot do on NYRA grounds that warranted their suspensions??

Your insights are "invaluable" as well, don't kid yourself.Peace man.

It was a bad joke in this thread. I was being sarcastic, obviously.

As for what did Bob Baffert or Eric Guillot do to warrant suspension by NYRA? They were found to have violated rules of racing....obviously...

myohmyjustify
08-22-2022, 06:07 PM
Peace man.

It was a bad joke in this thread. I was being sarcastic, obviously.

As for what did Bob Baffert or Eric Guillot do to warrant suspension by NYRA? They were found to have violated rules of racing....obviously...


I did misunderstand what you said; I did not think you were being sarcastic. My bad.

RunDustyRun
08-22-2022, 08:26 PM
Funny thing about Ness...few times I bet PARX I would either single his horse and lose or toss his horse and lose...same when he would ship to NY...for that reason alone I want him suspended for life! ...
as for Midwest thoroughbreds...scumbags of the highest order..lower level claimers out of the money twice...kill pen...no going to the farm for a couple months for those unfortunate horses...they cut their losses quick...literally..f em