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horses4courses
09-06-2020, 08:20 PM
Conservatives will call this a hit piece.
In reality, it is 100% fact.

The Trump presidency has been built on lies.
A complete plethora of them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/05/opinion/sunday/trump-promises-check.html

"I will build a great, great wall on our southern border . . .”
(Speech, June 16th, 2015)
While Trump so far has built 307 miles of walls along the 1,984-mile border, much of this replaces previous barriers that were dilapidated, or blocked only vehicles.

“. . . and I will have Mexico pay for that wall.”
Mexico is not paying for it. The new wall is costing about $30 million per mile and will be expensive to maintain, for human smugglers have cut open the wall with $50 cordless saws.

“We will find them [all undocumented immigrants], we will get them out.”
(CNN interview, July 29th, 2015)
Trump deported about 750,000 undocumented immigrants in his first three years in office, but most were trying to get into the country, not already living here. He never tried to remove all undocumented immigrants.

He did unleash a reign of terror directed at migrants, including separating young children from family members, and that may be one reason the total number of undocumented immigrants fell slightly. Still, Trump actually deported fewer people in his first three years than Barack Obama had – a comparison neither man will appreciate.

“We will also be a country of law and order . . . The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon, and I mean very soon, come to an end. Beginning on Jan 20 of 2017, safety will be restored.”
(Speech, July 21st, 2016)
Trump himself implicitly acknowledges that he has failed to create law and order, saying, “There is violence and danger in the streets” (speech, August 27th, 2020). Periodically, he incites that violence.

“The most basic duty of government is to defend the lives of its own citizens. Any government that fails to do so is a government unworthy to lead.” (Speech, July 21st, 2016)
The United States has lost more than 185,000 people to the coronavirus pandemic. On a per-capita basis, that’s more than twice as many as Canada and five times as many as Germany. America has 4 per cent of the world’s population and 22 per cent of the world’s confirmed Covid-19 deaths.


“We’re going to work with all of our students who are drowning in debt to take the pressure off these young people.” (Speech, July 21st, 2016)
Trump has sought to alter the terms of student loan repayments so that students would have to pay an additional $200 billion over a decade. He also attempted to cancel the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program.

“We will repeal and replace disastrous Obamacare.”
(Speech, July 21st, 2016)
Trump has not succeeded in repealing the Affordable Care Act, although he is still pursuing a lawsuit that would overturn it. He has never explained what would replace it.


“You’re going to have great health care at a much lower price. It will cost the United States nothing.” (remarks, July 27, 2018)

Partly because of Trump’s assaults on the Affordable Care Act, the number of uninsured people in the United States has risen for the first time in a decade. An additional 400,000 children are without insurance.

“I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created.” (speech, June 16, 2015)

Job creation continued during the Trump administration at roughly the same rate as in the Obama administration, but the pandemic ended that. There are now almost five million fewer Americans with jobs than when Trump took office. In raw numbers, this is the worst jobs record of any modern president.

“It is time to drain the swamp in Washington, D.C. This is why I’m proposing a package of ethics reforms to make our government honest once again.” (remarks, Oct. 17, 2016)

Eight of Trump’s associates have been charged with or convicted of crimes. Nonpartisan ethics watchdogs have repeatedly accused Trump and members of his administration and his family of serious ethics violations, and the Manhattan district attorney suggested last month that he was investigating Trump and his company for “possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct.”



“I’m going to put in … great conservative judges.” (remarks, March 20, 2016)

Trump has appointed conservative (and young) judges across the federal bench, and this will be a major element of his legacy. He was helped by the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, who blocked Obama from filling vacancies; Trump thus inherited an unusually large number of positions to fill.

“We will honor the American people with the truth, and nothing else.” (speech, July 21, 2016)

Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading statements since assuming office, by the count of The Washington Post.

“We will build the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports and the railways of tomorrow.” (remarks, July 21, 2016)

Trump never tried to pass an infrastructure bill.

“We’re going to cut taxes for the middle class. … We will ensure that the benefits are focused on the middle class, the working men and women, not the highest-income earners.” (speech, Sept. 27, 2017)

Trump did pass a tax cut, but it was focused on the wealthy. The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center estimated that for the 2018 tax year, 20 percent of the benefits would go to the top 1 percent, and that by 2027, 82 percent of the benefits would go to the top 1 percent.

“We’ve got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt. … I could do it fairly quickly … over a period of eight years.” (interview, March 31, 2016)

The debt has surged and may soon be larger than the American economy for the first time since 1946. That’s partly because of his tax cut for the wealthy and partly because of Covid-19.



“We will end our chronic trade deficits.” (remarks, Oct. 15, 2016)

The trade deficit is larger now than it was in Obama’s last year in office.

“We will completely rebuild our depleted military. … We will take care of our great veterans.” (speech, July 21, 2016)

Trump has increased the military budget, although he has also taken military funds for his wall. He expanded a program signed into law by Obama for veterans to choose private doctors, while reportedly scorning those who died in wars as “suckers” and trying to keep amputees from participating in a military parade.

“We are going to defeat the barbarians of ISIS.” (speech, July 21, 2016)

The United States did overthrow the caliphate of the Islamic State — a process begun under Obama. But ISIS continues to operate at a reduced level.

“We want to create peace between Israel and the Palestinians. We will get it done.” (remarks, May 3, 2017)

Peace between Israel and the Palestinians is as elusive as ever. However, Arab states such as the United Arab Emirates have warmed to Israel.

“Nobody will be pushing us around.” (speech, June 16, 2015)

The obvious exception is Russia, which interfered in the 2016 presidential election and now appears to be interfering in the 2020 election as well. Russia has injured American troops in Syria, and it is said to have paid bounties to Afghan militants for killing American troops.

“Unlike so many who came before me, I keep my promises.” (speech, Feb. 4, 2020)

Well, no.

Greyfox
09-06-2020, 08:30 PM
Conservatives will call this a hit piece.
In reality, it is 100% fact.

The Trump presidency has been built on lies.
A complete plethora of them.



Trump is obviously terrible.
BUT HE'S HEAD AND SHOULDERS BETTER THAN THE ALTERNATIVE ALMOST EMPTY VESSEL!

JustRalph
09-06-2020, 08:57 PM
He is not an Antifa loving communist.

Checkmate

TJDave
09-06-2020, 09:03 PM
Let’s not forget these gems:

“I will be so presidential.

"I'll be more effective and more disciplined."

horses4courses
09-06-2020, 09:06 PM
He is not an Antifa loving communist.

Checkmate

Neither is Joe Biden.
Facts matter little to you, though, I know.

clicknow
09-06-2020, 09:18 PM
Politics aside and regardless of who said it now or in the past

“We will build the roads, highways, bridges, tunnels, airports and the railways of tomorrow.”

during a time of such large unemployment, seems like a very good time and way to employ people now, to work on our infrastructure, which really does need some help.

Why do you think this is not being suggested or done?

Somebody already suggested there is so much DIY going on, seems like getting outdoor work like roads, highway, bridges, tunnels, and railroads would be a perfect WPA like program?

Less unemployment, therefore more consumer spending, etc.

Marshall Bennett
09-06-2020, 09:26 PM
And Obama was gonna fix the race issues. He actually made it a lot worse.
The list of promises was long, but I'm not gonna spend an hour or more on a post that few will thoroughly read.

clicknow
09-06-2020, 09:32 PM
And Obama was gonna fix the race issues. He actually made it a lot worse.
The list of promises was long, but I'm not gonna spend an hour or more on a post that few will thoroughly read.

I agree that there's always a long list of "to-do's" for any POTUS that never get done.

They all have had those lists published by citizens.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't hold their feet to the fire to fulfill their campaign promises though.

So I am one who actually reads thru these kinds of lists. I like to see where officials are falling short.


But really, we could have a lot of employed people if we began some pubic works programs right now.

Greyfox
09-06-2020, 09:54 PM
Neither is Joe Biden.
Facts matter little to you, though, I know.

Tell us when "Jumbled Joe" condemned or even mentioned Antifa.
Tell us why he hasn't denounced the http://www.antifa.com link to his campaign website?
Just askin'.

PaceAdvantage
09-06-2020, 09:56 PM
I agree that there's always a long list of "to-do's" for any POTUS that never get done.

They all have had those lists published by citizens. Yeah, you're right. Trump is being treated just like any other POTUS.

I remember when NY Times compiled a list of Obama's promises that weren't kept....

Oh wait...

fast4522
09-06-2020, 11:42 PM
Yeah, you're right. Trump is being treated just like any other POTUS.

I remember when NY Times compiled a list of Obama's promises that weren't kept....

Oh wait...


Reckless would have some comments on that, how long before he gets a pardon?

davew
09-06-2020, 11:45 PM
And Obama was gonna fix the race issues. He actually made it a lot worse.
The list of promises was long, but I'm not gonna spend an hour or more on a post that few will thoroughly read.

we need more HOPE

MargieRose
09-07-2020, 12:06 AM
A New York Times 'opinion' piece...what would one expect? 🚮
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ElKabong
09-07-2020, 12:10 AM
I couldn't keep my doctor during the Obama years. That was a promise, IIRC

I was lucky. I knew a lot of people that lost their careers during his tenure

MargieRose
09-07-2020, 12:11 AM
If you care to know the TRUTH!

Promises Made, Promises Kept! (https://www.promiseskept.com/#)

President Donald J. Trump Accomplishments

MargieRose
09-07-2020, 12:19 AM
Reckless would have some comments on that, how long before he gets a pardon?I second that motion. :ThmbUp:

fast4522
09-07-2020, 12:21 AM
Heck, I think ReplyRandle was pardoned 3 times.

PaceAdvantage
09-07-2020, 12:39 AM
I have an idea. You, Replay and reckless can go start your own website.

JustRalph
09-07-2020, 01:00 AM
https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/09/05/wapo-gives-biden-four-pinocchios-social-security-claim/

4 pinochs

fast4522
09-07-2020, 01:12 AM
https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2020/09/05/wapo-gives-biden-four-pinocchios-social-security-claim/

4 pinochs


Everything Biden is a joke, but he got a real bump from his convention Not.

cratman
09-07-2020, 05:10 AM
Yeah, you're right. Trump is being treated just like any other POTUS.

I remember when NY Times compiled a list of Obama's promises that weren't kept....

Oh wait...

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/20/us/politics/first-term-promises-made-kept-and-broken.html

PaceAdvantage
09-07-2020, 09:16 PM
Yeah, you're right. Trump is being treated just like any other POTUS.

I remember when NY Times compiled a list of Obama's promises that weren't kept....

Oh wait...

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/01/20/us/politics/first-term-promises-made-kept-and-broken.htmlWow...if only that were 1% similar to the link in the original post in this thread.

If only...

Tom
09-08-2020, 05:58 PM
And Obama was gonna fix the race issues. He actually made it a lot worse.
The list of promises was long, but I'm not gonna spend an hour or more on a post that few will thoroughly read.

Good point - how can tings be so bad today if Obama and Biden had done anything of substance for years? Institutional racism did not start 4 years ago.

Fact is, for 8 years, they did nothing of any substance on any issue. And old Joe is pooped out from the effort.

Denying all the good things Trump accomplished is just foolish. Sure, he didn't get 100% of most things. At least he tried, but we had a House of Ill Repute, err, Representatives who blocked everything they could, showing no respect for the nation, only political posturing.


Stupid thread.

garyscpa
09-08-2020, 07:31 PM
Heck, I think ReplyRandle was pardoned 3 times.

RR is like having Jerry Nadler on your team.

fast4522
09-08-2020, 08:41 PM
RR is like having Jerry Nadler on your team.

I really don't know all about that, I did ask him for a favor once and he was cool. It is very easy to miss what really might be going on here at PA in a specific thread, he could connect the dots. My inquiry was not with ReplyRandle, if he was still active I would likely PM him about his state about local news like I have done with others here.