Meanwhile in Kenosha...

[RunForTheRoses]

https://www.dailypress.com/nation-world/ct-nw-kenosha-wisconsin-police-shooting-20200824-3wu3bcfypffyznwx7esu4tutju-story.html


https://twitter.com/mfoxhunter/status/1297768327935397888

[PaceAdvantage]

As long as cops get shot and/or die...it doesn't matter. Nobody cares.

They don't have family...they don't have wives...they don't have children...only the people they interact with on a daily basis have those things.

They are subhumans, just like Trump...so they deserve what they get, I guess.

At least that's the message Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and the Democrats want you to hear.

[ElKabong]

Read Joe Biden's comments on the incident. He places zero responsibility on the driver for resisting arrest. That's a crime itself

Dem leadership in Milwaukee are criticizing as well. Lawlessness mean nothing to these people

[Tor Ekman]

It's the new "Zeroth Amendment" to the Constitution, to wit: The right of (certain) people to resist arrest shall not be violated, denied or abridged.

[baconswitchfarm]

Every time the same thing. I am giving advice on how not to get shot. Follow instructions, say nothing, wait for your attorney. It's what everyone in civilization does except the people who keep complaining about getting shot. :bang:

[xtb]

https://twitter.com/mfoxhunter/status/1297768327935397888

I'll bet that every cop has seen this video or one similar, it would have to go through their mind every time a suspect resists arrest.

[JustRalph]

I'll bet that every cop has seen this video or one similar, it would have to go through their mind every time a suspect resists arrest.

There are about 20 vids like that from all over that are shown in all classes. Some are much worse

One I used to see always haunted me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVDRo7-kwGc

[JustRalph]

In a famous line from the Hunt for Red October.

“This will get out of hand and people will die”

BLM armed with rifles


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1297770791891656706

[PaceAdvantage]

This is Joe Biden's vision for America.

I thought lefties abhorred armed semi-auto vigilantism.

[davew]

This is Joe Biden's vision for America.

I thought lefties abhorred armed semi-auto vigilantism.

no, they abhor military's vehicles repurposed to police

[biggestal99]

In a famous line from the Hunt for Red October.

“This will get out of hand and people will die”

BLM armed with rifles


https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1297770791891656706 is Wisconsin indeed an open carry state.

If so, these citizens were not breaking the law.

Allan

[PaceAdvantage]

is Wisconsin indeed an open carry state.

If so, these citizens were not breaking the law.

AllanLOL you sound like a rightie now....

What's next? Gonna defend the 2nd amendment? :pound::pound::pound:

Shutting down a street and stopping police vehicles sounds like it might be breaking the law.

Nobody said anything about carrying guns.

[woodtoo]

is Wisconsin indeed an open carry state.

If so, these citizens were not breaking the law.

Allan


This would be lawful only when they set up a CHAZ police free zone, until then they cannot point AK weapons at police.:rolleyes:

[Tor Ekman]

Trump surveying the damage of Kenosha burning


https://i.postimg.cc/NMRtMq8M/Napoleon-watching-the-fire-of-Moscow.jpg

[RunForTheRoses]

https://twitter.com/livesmattershow

[Tor Ekman]

Irony is a bitch


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgQtfJmUwAUeHiI?format=jpg&name=large

[RunForTheRoses]

Irony is a bitch


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgQtfJmUwAUeHiI?format=jpg&name=large

Yep. Sure is.

[RunForTheRoses]

Another irony is the nanny state forcing people to social distance and make sure to wear a mask BUT then having no problem with so-called peaceful protestors disregarding those rules. Or is that hypocrisy?

[Marshall Bennett]

is Wisconsin indeed an open carry state.

If so, these citizens were not breaking the law.
You know that's bullshit. Why even say it except hoping it irritates PA conservatives. Tells us also of the massive warehouse packed with stolen mailboxes.

[taxicab]

I'm watching ythe various streams on twitter tonight,and it looks like between 3 and 6 seperate shootings so far.
All of the shootings appear to be Kenosha citizens hitting Antifa/BLM rioters.
I think there's more, but twitter appears to be in censorship mode........probably because the wrong side is winning.

[taxicab]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298501182382473216

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1298488431358758912

https://twitter.com/AmbientHex/status/1298490723013201921

https://twitter.com/VenturaReport/status/1298484703079653376

https://twitter.com/selfdeclaredref/status/1298484623232700417

https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1298471079837605888

https://twitter.com/selfdeclaredref/status/1298471804735037445

https://twitter.com/selfdeclaredref/status/1298466241804480513

[taxicab]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1298504749633814529

https://twitter.com/ShelbyTalcott/status/1298486682250022912

https://twitter.com/FromKalen/status/1298472259871547397

[taxicab]

https://twitter.com/bandpolitical/status/1298494834957844480

[davew]

I wonder if 'peaceful protestors' getting shot will spread to more cities?

[RunForTheRoses]

https://www.wnd.com/2020/08/blms-perpetual-fake-outrage-cycle/

[JustRalph]

The Antifa scum screaming for police made me laugh.

Payback time

[PaceAdvantage]

Threads merged

[ElKabong]

The Antifa scum screaming for police made me laugh.

Payback time

These teenage/ 20something rioting skinny white punks pretty much deserve what comes their way. Then they whine like babies when things don't go their way

Seriously, the way they were raised is the reason for their behavior

[stuball]

He did not look peaceful to me -- nice huge hole in his arm ---

[stuball]

They were yelling call the police -- HA HA -- lock and load

[RunForTheRoses]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/jacob-blakes-mom-blasts-rioters-for-destroying-kenosha-apologizes-to-trump

[ElKabong]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/jacob-blakes-mom-blasts-rioters-for-destroying-kenosha-apologizes-to-trump

Remarkable woman, and my heart hurts for her

[GMB@BP]

We better find a common ground here or things could deteriorate quickly.

I dont know why her son got shot, that is a police matter, but I feel for her as a parent.

[davew]

We better find a common ground here or things could deteriorate quickly.

I dont know why her son got shot, that is a police matter, but I feel for her as a parent.

He had a knife in his hand.

[xtb]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/jacob-blakes-mom-blasts-rioters-for-destroying-kenosha-apologizes-to-trump

This lady has class.

[MargieRose]

Trump says he will send federal law enforcement, National Guard to Kenosha after Jacob Blake shooting (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-jacob-blake-shooting-kenosha-wisconsin-federal-law-enforcement)

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1298671449968959490

[GMB@BP]

Trump says he will send federal law enforcement, National Guard to Kenosha after Jacob Blake shooting (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-jacob-blake-shooting-kenosha-wisconsin-federal-law-enforcement)

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1298671449968959490

Federal officers with guns is better than citizens having to arm themselves to protect property. Not sure why this is debatable for anyone.

[davew]

Federal officers with guns is better than citizens having to arm themselves to protect property. Not sure why this is debatable for anyone.

because the left wants reparations and free stuff

[ElKabong]

Expect whoever is funding the people rioting (Bloomberg, Soros, whoever) to ramp this up in Kenosha or wherever "Trump's Storm Troopers" show up. They want their Kent State moment (As delayjf called it) and it might be their only hope to get Independents to swing blue (with MSM help)

[jimmyb]

Did any protest result of this Chicago incident?



In A Twist, Black Cop Shoots Fleeing, Unarmed White Man In The Back.




https://newsone.com/3906412/black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-man-viral-video/

[lansdale]

17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse, a strong supporter of Donald Trump, has been charged by police with the shooting deaths of two people and injuring a third on Tuesday night during the Kenosha BLM protest. The 'Buzzfeed' piece below shows the Illinois native in the front row of a Trump rally in Des Moines, Iowa in January.

Another African-American man shot in the back by the police, this one paralyzed for life from the waist down. Anybody else see a pattern here?



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-trump-rally#click=https://t.co/VfzRMX6gP9

[woodtoo]

Victims both had weapons as they chased Kyle down as he was running to police, all three convicted felons.
Self-defense case closed.

[PaceAdvantage]

17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse, a strong supporter of Donald Trump, has been charged by police with the shooting deaths of two people and injuring a third on Tuesday night during the Kenosha BLM protest. The 'Buzzfeed' piece below shows the Illinois native in the front row of a Trump rally in Des Moines, Iowa in January.

Another African-American man shot in the back by the police, this one paralyzed for life from the waist down. Anybody else see a pattern here?



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-trump-rally#click=https://t.co/VfzRMX6gP9Threads merged...no need to start a new thread when one exists on the subject.

Thanks SO MUCH.

[davew]

Milwaukee Bucks stage walk-off from play-offs ... followed other teams and other sports.

[PaceAdvantage]

17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse, a strong supporter of Donald Trump, has been charged by police with the shooting deaths of two people and injuring a third on Tuesday night during the Kenosha BLM protest. The 'Buzzfeed' piece below shows the Illinois native in the front row of a Trump rally in Des Moines, Iowa in January.

Another African-American man shot in the back by the police, this one paralyzed for life from the waist down. Anybody else see a pattern here?



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-trump-rally#click=https://t.co/VfzRMX6gP9BTW, such a long and exhaustive article on this troubled teen.

It's interesting what the media chooses to obsess on and what it chooses to ignore.

Well, not that interesting...I already know why they do what they do.

And why certain people just lap it up...while accusing the opposition of being equally as partisan and mindless.

Are we having fun yet?

PS. I've been seeing a PATTERN FOR DECADES

[lamboguy]

Milwaukee Bucks stage walk-off from play-offs ... followed other teams and other sports.
what about the people that have stayed up for hours handicapping these games and now they won't play them. one thing for sure, the basketball players could care less about their bettors that support the sport. at least in horse racing they run the races.

i am so happy that i bet on elections and horse racing now. i never bet baskets and will not bet it until the next century.

[myohmyjustify]

17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse, a strong supporter of Donald Trump, has been charged by police with the shooting deaths of two people and injuring a third on Tuesday night during the Kenosha BLM protest. The 'Buzzfeed' piece below shows the Illinois native in the front row of a Trump rally in Des Moines, Iowa in January.

Another African-American man shot in the back by the police, this one paralyzed for life from the waist down. Anybody else see a pattern here?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-trump-rally#click=https://t.co/VfzRMX6gP9

Which makes this "peaceful protester" the single President Trump supporter who also supports BLM, against the many hundreds upon hundreds of anti-Trump "protesters" who also support BLM.

Got. It. Makes. sense. :confused:

[RunForTheRoses]

17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse, a strong supporter of Donald Trump, has been charged by police with the shooting deaths of two people and injuring a third on Tuesday night during the Kenosha BLM protest. The 'Buzzfeed' piece below shows the Illinois native in the front row of a Trump rally in Des Moines, Iowa in January.

Another African-American man shot in the back by the police, this one paralyzed for life from the waist down. Anybody else see a pattern here?



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-trump-rally#click=https://t.co/VfzRMX6gP9

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tucker-carlson-on-kenosha-violence-how-shocked-are-we-that-17-year-olds-with-rifles-decided-they-had-to-maintain-order-when-no-one-else-would/

“People in charge from the governor of Wisconsin on down refused to enforce the law. They stood back and watched Kenosha burn. So are we really surprised this looting and arson accelerated to murder? How shocked are we that 17-year-olds with rifles decided they had to maintain order when no one else would? Everyone can see what was happening in Kenosha. It was getting crazier by the hour… ‘Kill the police, death to America.’ That’s not Iran, it’s Wisconsin. It could have been a dozen other places in the country. The violence has been building unabated for three months now. Every day the mob becomes more radical.”

[PaceAdvantage]

They need as much looting and rioting and burning as possible...can never be too sure when it comes to making sure Trump loses the election...

So of course the powers that be want to see this escalate and radicalize further...that's why they do nothing to stop it...

#rigged

[jimmyb]

Milwaukee Bucks stage walk-off from play-offs ... followed other teams and other sports.


Sports used to be a diversion from all the B.S. going on in the world. tried to watch a hockey game which led off with the most recent police shooting and how we need to come together, blah, blah, blah. I'd stopped watching basketball as the players have become political billboards. same with the home team Red Sox... they put a huge BLM billboard along the Massachusetts turnpike. Hockey is done for me now and I'm sure football is is right behind. Waiting for jockeys next.

[JustRalph]

Did any protest result of this Chicago incident?



In A Twist, Black Cop Shoots Fleeing, Unarmed White Man In The Back.




https://newsone.com/3906412/black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-man-viral-video/

For Train jumping?

Idiots

[xtb]

Sports used to be a diversion from all the B.S. going on in the world. tried to watch a hockey game which led off with the most recent police shooting and how we need to come together, blah, blah, blah. I'd stopped watching basketball as the players have become political billboards. same with the home team Red Sox... they put a huge BLM billboard along the Massachusetts turnpike. Hockey is done for me now and I'm sure football is is right behind. Waiting for jockeys next.

If the NHL starts with this BLM/kneeling crap, I'm done with hockey too. Never thought I'd say it.

[woodtoo]

Got it, unarmed except for knife. Mostly peaceful?
28298

[JustRalph]

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/08/27/the-men-shot-in-kenosha-were-felons-who-were-shot-while-acting-like-felons/

[GMB@BP]

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/08/27/the-men-shot-in-kenosha-were-felons-who-were-shot-while-acting-like-felons/

you almost cant make this stuff up. good luck on that DA getting a conviction.

Sounds like a very soft plea deal to me so that they dont look bad.

[PaceAdvantage]

17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse, a strong supporter of Donald Trump, has been charged by police with the shooting deaths of two people and injuring a third on Tuesday night during the Kenosha BLM protest. The 'Buzzfeed' piece below shows the Illinois native in the front row of a Trump rally in Des Moines, Iowa in January.

Another African-American man shot in the back by the police, this one paralyzed for life from the waist down. Anybody else see a pattern here?



https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/kenosha-suspect-kyle-rittenhouse-trump-rally#click=https://t.co/VfzRMX6gP9Can you believe lansdale actually started a new thread with this? lol

lansdale obviously believes when you are being chased down 3v1 and being beaten and kicked and your life threatened (one of his assailants had a handgun), you shouldn't be allowed to defend your life.

Interesting position there lansdale...

[PaceAdvantage]

Now, I haven't watched any videos or anything related to this shooting, so I don't really know.

Were those three guys chasing this kid down, KNOWING he was armed?

If so, how stupid were they? Or am I totally off base?

[Jeff P]

In a Bizarre Turn of Events, NYT Investigation of Kenosha Shooting Makes a Strong Case for Self-Defense:
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/08/27/in-a-bizarre-turn-of-events-nyt-investigation-of-kenosha-shooting-makes-a-strong-case-for-self-defense/

Some interesting videos and perspective available at the above link.

Cellphone video appears to show the 17 year old shooter being pursued and attacked.

Did he act in self defense? (I'll leave that for others to decide.)


-jp

.

[GMB@BP]

In a Bizarre Turn of Events, NYT Investigation of Kenosha Shooting Makes a Strong Case for Self-Defense:
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/08/27/in-a-bizarre-turn-of-events-nyt-investigation-of-kenosha-shooting-makes-a-strong-case-for-self-defense/

Some interesting videos and perspective available at the above link.

Cellphone video appears to show the 17 year old shooter being pursued and attacked.

Did he act in self defense? (I'll leave that for others to decide.)


-jp

.

so pedophile huh....guy got what god had coming for him.

[GMB@BP]

In a Bizarre Turn of Events, NYT Investigation of Kenosha Shooting Makes a Strong Case for Self-Defense:
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/08/27/in-a-bizarre-turn-of-events-nyt-investigation-of-kenosha-shooting-makes-a-strong-case-for-self-defense/

Some interesting videos and perspective available at the above link.

Cellphone video appears to show the 17 year old shooter being pursued and attacked.

Did he act in self defense? (I'll leave that for others to decide.)


-jp

.

that synced up video sure tells a story, guy was isolated, the guy who was just threatening the kid a few minutes earlier attacks him, he runs, gets something thrown at him and then shoots.

The cops may have a better case with the later two shootings. I dont know.

In any event, Wisconsin is not portland, and people will defend their lives and property in a more aggressive manor.

[ElKabong]

Sports used to be a diversion from all the B.S. going on in the world. tried to watch a hockey game which led off with the most recent police shooting and how we need to come together, blah, blah, blah. I'd stopped watching basketball as the players have become political billboards. same with the home team Red Sox... they put a huge BLM billboard along the Massachusetts turnpike. Hockey is done for me now and I'm sure football is is right behind. Waiting for jockeys next.

Same here. I'm done with them all

Tuned in for opening day ceremonies for the rangers last month, turned the tv off during the BLM tribute. Haven't seen even a half inning since, and Ranger games have been a MUST SEE in our household for a very long time.

NBA? BLM theme has ruined it, even for the wife. "Too political to watch now" she says. We used to argue over who to watch... I wanted to see the Stars, she wanted the mavs. Now neither of us watch sports

When c19 had baseball on lockdown I recorded many of "the greatest games" mlb network ran . It's all the baseball I've seen since last October. My next door neighbor is a retired MLB player, dude loves watching the older games. Luis Tiant in game 6, 1975 world series is his favorite

[davew]

it has been a long time since I have seen any hockey, are there many black hockey stars?

[ElKabong]

Actually, yes. Two dozen or more

[Tom]

Every time the same thing. I am giving advice on how not to get shot. Follow instructions, say nothing, wait for your attorney. It's what everyone in civilization does except the people who keep complaining about getting shot. :bang:

People who get shot by cops pretty much bring it on themselves.
Thinning the herd.

[davew]

Actually, yes. Two dozen or more

in the entire league? it is not 60-80% like NBA, NFL, MLB?

[Tom]

is Wisconsin indeed an open carry state.

If so, these citizens were not breaking the law.

Allan

They were out AFTER curfew, so yes, they were breaking the law.

[Tom]

Did any protest result of this Chicago incident?


In A Twist, Black Cop Shoots Fleeing, Unarmed White Man In The Back.



#SAYHISNAME

[Tom]

17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse, a strong supporter of Donald Trump, has been charged by police with the shooting deaths of two people and injuring a third on Tuesday night during the Kenosha BLM protest. The 'Buzzfeed' piece below shows the Illinois native in the front row of a Trump rally in Des Moines, Iowa in January.

Another African-American man shot in the back by the police, this one paralyzed for life from the waist down. Anybody else see a pattern here?

[/url]

Yes.
Left-wing loony tunes people keep trying to blame shot on Trump that is NOT his fault. Probably because there is nothing good they say about their POS candidate, the cellar-hiding founder of REAL Institutionalized racism - the Democrat Party.

Anything else I can do for you?

[RunForTheRoses]

https://youtu.be/kckHV0A4ODM

[horses4courses]

sh*t for brains parents.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgZIgupXkAAJwuf?format=jpg&name=small

[davew]

the left neutered the police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G64tTlcdZw4&feature=emb_rel_end

[JustRalph]

You left off

Convicted felon-illegally armed civil rights protestors throwing Molotov cocktails and burning businesses

The Sandmann’s attorney is involved in the kids defense. This should be good.

[JustRalph]

Today the Virginia legislature reduced the punishment for assaulting a police officer to a misdemeanor

They are inviting criminals to attack police officers

[MONEY]

Here's your terrorist, saying the riots are not going to stop and should not stop.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1299077701916073984

[ElKabong]

Here's your terrorist, saying the riots are not going to stop and should not stop.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1299077701916073984

There's the only trump ad needed the week leading up to election night. That's pure gold.

[PaceAdvantage]

There's the only trump ad needed the week leading up to election night. That's pure gold.Sounds about right.

[jimmyb]

in the entire league? it is not 60-80% like NBA, NFL, MLB?
MLB is 7.8 per cent black or 80 players on opening day rosters, whichever sounds worse to you. Sounds like the SJW's are going to very busy. The Diamondbacks, Rays and Royals didn't have a single black on their respective rosters. The Mariners have more blacks than the entire A.L. central combined with ten black players.


The Red Sox, who unfurled an enourmous Black Lives matter billboard on the Massachusetts Turnpike, recently posted a photo of their 35 front office people. There was not one person of color. Hypocrites.

[xtb]

sh*t for brains parents.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgZIgupXkAAJwuf?format=jpg&name=small

"civil rights protesters":lol:

How about 3 convicted felons out after dark smashing cars at a car dealer with baseball bats and tire irons about to set them on fire when they are confronted by a perfectly legal armed citizen who takes two of them out of the gene pool when they attempt to injure or possibly kill him.

[taxicab]

Today the Virginia legislature reduced the punishment for assaulting a police officer to a misdemeanor

They are inviting criminals to attack police officers

This one was disturbing.
I hope the citizens of Virginia are keeping score..........then vote the anti-police politicos out.

[MONEY]

This one was disturbing.
I hope the citizens of Virginia are keeping score..........then vote the anti-police politicos out.
There's something in the water.

Controversial Lawmaker Who Served Time for Teen Sex Scandal Wins Virginia State Senate Seat
BY MARIKA MALAEA ON 11/7/19 AT 7:18 PM EST

"On Election Night, Democrat Joe Morrissey won the senate seat for Virginia's 16th District after a rocky road filled with scandals that would typically impede the careers of most politicians.

The unconventional political path Morrissey has taken includes a teen sex scandal, jail time, disbarment and alleged inappropriate conduct with a client. Despite this, he still received over 60 percent of the votes, reports WSET."

https://www.newsweek.com/controversial-lawmaker-who-served-time-teen-sex-scandal-wins-virginia-state-senate-seat-1470512

[GMB@BP]

You left off

Convicted felon-illegally armed civil rights protestors throwing Molotov cocktails and burning businesses

The Sandmann’s attorney is involved in the kids defense. This should be good.

have there been riots in kenosha the past two nights since the people where shot?

I always thought that it will be interesting to see the dynamic if people defended themselves versus just letting their shit get destroyed.

[xtb]

have there been riots in kenosha the past two nights since the people where shot?

I always thought that it will be interesting to see the dynamic if people defended themselves versus just letting their shit get destroyed.

Oh yes. Some if not most are from out of state however. Only the smallest excuse for this shit is needed to destroy the country. There are deeper forces at work here than what is seen on the surface.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/27/kenosha-police-arrest-out-state-group-preparing-riots/

[MargieRose]

GoFundMe will not allow http://www.myemoticons.com/images/emotions/thinking/hmm.gifa page for Kyle. :ThmbDown:

Go to this website to donate to his defense fund: https://www.givesendgo.com/ (https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.givesendgo.com%2FGUCZ%3A BXXl50bZTwjtFHS6L9dwo13ngaI&cuid=1290197)

Kyle Rittenhouse's legal team is starting one, too: https://fightback.law/ (https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffightback.law%2F%3AT8PmLOOEy lVhtm_yJvVYpZxSd90&cuid=1290197)

[ElKabong]

Sandmann's lawyer is taking the point.

He'll have 2 different representations. One for his defense, the other for slander. He's been called a white supremist (MSNBC) so they need to pucker their butt. Wood is already coming out on false reporting by the MSM. His tweet text , below

When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation. Kyle did not carry a gun across state lines. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the State of Wisconsin.

Truth always prevails.

[MargieRose]

Sandmann's lawyer is taking the point.

He'll have 2 different representations. One for his defense, the other for slander. He's been called a white supremist (MSNBC) so they need to pucker their butt. Wood is already coming out on false reporting by the MSM. His tweet text , below

When you start manufacturing facts to support false accusations, you get into trouble under the law of defamation. Kyle did not carry a gun across state lines. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. The gun never left the State of Wisconsin.

Truth always prevails.They never learn, do they?

MSM, Democratic party and Leftist MO...throw anything out and hope it sticks, whether true or not. Just like a few do here.

[delayjf]

"civil rights protesters":lol:

How about 3 convicted felons out after dark smashing cars at a car dealer with baseball bats and tire irons about to set them on fire when they are confronted by a perfectly legal armed citizen who takes two of them out of the gene pool when they attempt to injure or possibly kill him.
Not to mention one convicted pedophile.

[jay68802]

sh*t for brains parents.

So the parents that raised a young man, that decided to defend the rights and property of complete strangers, with no regard for his personal safety, are the problem?

The problem is that the Democrat leaders have allowed criminals to riot and burn their cities. They have ignored that the people have a right to equal protection under the law. By not prosecuting, and therefore supporting, the criminal acts and riots, the leaders of those cities have failed the people that elected them. If the leaders of these cities would have protected their cities, a 17 year old kid, would not had to make this decision.

The dem leaders of this city, are responsible for this. And instead of owning this, they are prosecuting a person that never should have been in this situation.

[xtb]

GoFundMe will not allow http://www.myemoticons.com/images/emotions/thinking/hmm.gifa page for Kyle. :ThmbDown:

Go to this website to donate to his defense fund: https://www.givesendgo.com/ (https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.givesendgo.com%2FGUCZ%3A BXXl50bZTwjtFHS6L9dwo13ngaI&cuid=1290197)

Kyle Rittenhouse's legal team is starting one, too: https://fightback.law/ (https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffightback.law%2F%3AT8PmLOOEy lVhtm_yJvVYpZxSd90&cuid=1290197)

Gofundme allows pages for all kinds of scum but not for someone risking their life to protect others? The only thing Kyle Rittenhouse did wrong was miss his target on the third thug 12 inches to the left. Under the circumstances however, he did great. The kid has some skills. It’s like Meatloaf said, “Two out of three ain’t bad”.

[JustRalph]

Hmmmm........

[JustRalph]

The man was a rapist.............

Sexual offender with a warrant out for his arrest.


Armed with a knife.


https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/this-is-why-jacob-blake-had-a-warrant-out-for-his-arrest/

[tucker6]

The man was a rapist.............

Sexual offender with a warrant out for his arrest.


Armed with a knife.


https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/this-is-why-jacob-blake-had-a-warrant-out-for-his-arrest/

One less dirtbag. Does anyone actually care that he died? He was scum.

You fight with the police and continue to escalate, the chances of getting shot go up. Crazy I know, but that's the trend curve during police stops.

[JustRalph]

One less dirtbag. Does anyone actually care that he died? He was scum.

You fight with the police and continue to escalate, the chances of getting shot go up. Crazy I know, but that's the trend curve during police stops.

He didn’t die. Paralyzed. He’s going to get paid.......

The cop that shot him was stupid. All he had to do was wait for the guy to turn around..........

[tucker6]

He didn’t die. Paralyzed. He’s going to get paid.......

The cop that shot him was stupid. All he had to do was wait for the guy to turn around..........

Agree with that

[xtb]

The man was a rapist.............

Sexual offender with a warrant out for his arrest.


Armed with a knife.


https://nypost.com/2020/08/28/this-is-why-jacob-blake-had-a-warrant-out-for-his-arrest/

He has a lot in common with Badfinger Joe.

[Tom]

"civil rights protesters":lol:

How about 3 convicted felons out after dark smashing cars at a car dealer with baseball bats and tire irons about to set them on fire when they are confronted by a perfectly legal armed citizen who takes two of them out of the gene pool when they attempt to injure or possibly kill him.

Worst thing he did was hunting out of season.
I'll pay his fine.

All he did was shot a couple of liberals........come on, man!

[davew]

Worst thing he did was hunting out of season.
I'll pay his fine.

All he did was shot a couple of liberals........come on, man!

when is hunting liberal season?

[tucker6]

when is hunting liberal season?

January 1st through December 31st.

[PaceAdvantage]

Good takes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF-qXcGAsuQ

[woodtoo]

When 'Peaceful Protesters' come to your peaceful town. Can you feel the love?28320

And the wonderful public educators responsible are teaching your children how to be responsible.
28319

[thaskalos]

sh*t for brains parents.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgZIgupXkAAJwuf?format=jpg&name=small

17-year-olds can't even buy cigarettes. Where do they get the semi-automatic rifles?

[TJDave]

17-year-olds can't even buy cigarettes. Where do they get the semi-automatic rifles?

Borrowed from a friend.
I believe he was additionally charged with illegal possession.

[tucker6]

Borrowed from a friend.
I believe he was additionally charged with illegal possession.

Those under 18 can be in possession of hunting rifles and I believe that will be the argument. The prosecutor has an uphill climb on all the charges. A waste of taxpayer money when there are no victims.

[TJDave]

Those under 18 can be in possession of hunting rifles and I believe that will be the argument.

Maybe. Here’s a separate argument:

Say I’m visiting from a neighboring state and ask to borrow your rifle because there’s a demonstration downtown and I’d like to go but I feel safer if I’m armed.

You gonna lend me your gun?

[sammy the sage]

Maybe. Here’s a separate argument:

Say I’m visiting from a neighboring state and ask to borrow your rifle because there’s a demonstration downtown and I’d like to go but I feel safer if I’m armed.

You gonna lend me your gun?

NOT you...other's perhaps....:headbanger::pound:

[horses4courses]

Trump due to visit Kenosha tomorrow.

So he can comfort the victims with his presence?
What an effing joke!

Gasoline on the fire.

[PaceAdvantage]

Trump due to visit Kenosha tomorrow.

So he can comfort the victims with his presence?
What an effing joke!

Gasoline on the fire.You sound upset....

[xtb]

Trump due to visit Kenosha tomorrow.

So he can comfort the victims with his presence?
What an effing joke!

Gasoline on the fire.

Their mayor and governor don’t give a rat’s ass about the people of Kenosha even though more than 2/3 of the rioters are from different cities. They want this crap to continue because they are too overcome with TDS to understand that their strategy is backfiring. The residents welcome Trump’s visit.

[davew]

Trump due to visit Kenosha tomorrow.

So he can comfort the victims with his presence?
What an effing joke!

Gasoline on the fire.

and you do not even understand who all the victims are

[tucker6]

Trump due to visit Kenosha tomorrow.

So he can comfort the victims with his presence?
What an effing joke!

Gasoline on the fire.
What's the matter Horsey? Having trouble getting the horses (rioters) back in the barn after letting them rampage for 3 months? Don't worry. The GOP will have an absolutely field day with this for the next 65 days.

[GMB@BP]

Only thing that stopped the violence in that town was that kid in my book, after that suddenly the left wing violent anarchists felt a little less emboldened.

[jay68802]

Trump due to visit Kenosha tomorrow.

So he can comfort the victims with his presence?
What an effing joke!

Gasoline on the fire.

Whats Biden doing or saying? Wait, he is still running a basement campaign. And not a peep about the violence.

[ElKabong]

Trump due to visit Kenosha tomorrow.

So he can comfort the victims with his presence?
What an effing joke!

Gasoline on the fire.

yeah, that trump guy created this mess....

[Tom]

Whats Biden doing or saying? Wait, he is still running a basement campaign. And not a peep about the violence.

Joe Hiden has bigger worries this week.
They told him that polls showed the gap was closing and his upset because that is where he buys his pajamas.:eek:

[JustRalph]

Jail time?

[PaceAdvantage]

Jail time? No way. They'll probably say what happened to him is punishment enough.

It's like we're in medieval times when it comes to criminal justice these days.

Iran might have a better system of justice at this point. Imagine....

[JustRalph]

This kid is going to get paid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiMk5AHn3dA#action=share

[JustRalph]

Rittenhouse has been released on bond..........

[JustRalph]

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2021/01/14/jacob-blake-interview-abc-news-left/

Just let him go on Tv and lie his ass off...........

[davew]

if you have a knife in your hand are you 'unarmed'?

[jay68802]

if you have a knife in your hand are you 'unarmed'?

Of course, look at me, I am hungry and have a Rib Eye and a grill with lit charcoal. therefore I am poor.

[davew]

Kyle Rittenhouse Motions Hearing, seeing what will be allowed in trial


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHnoeaQU5o8

[davew]

the prosecutors seem to have made an excellent case for self-defense .....

[Tom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYwD2BP2mI

[Stevecsd2]

In that video posted by Tom above the man who pointed a gun at Rittenhouse admitted to a crime under oath, at the very least attempted assault with a deadly weapon. Will they prosecute him? I certainly hope so, but I doubt it.



But it still doesn't matter if the facts show that Rittenhouse acted in self defense on all three murder & attempted murder charges, which I think he did. It all depends on whether the jury will come to that decision of not guilty. And I hope they do.



He will still likely be convicted for under age possesion, and other possible gun charges.

[Tom]

Judge and prosecutor almost coming to blows just now. :popcorn:

[stuball]

Prosecutor a real POS not following Judges pretrial rulings that he was a partner to.. possible contempt charges as he continues to overeach

[xtb]

In that video posted by Tom above the man who pointed a gun at Rittenhouse admitted to a crime under oath, at the very least attempted assault with a deadly weapon. Will they prosecute him? I certainly hope so, but I doubt it.



But it still doesn't matter if the facts show that Rittenhouse acted in self defense on all three murder & attempted murder charges, which I think he did. It all depends on whether the jury will come to that decision of not guilty. And I hope they do.



He will still likely be convicted for under age possesion, and other possible gun charges.

Not only did the guy with the now missing bicep point a loaded handgun at Kyle, he did not have a valid permit.

As far as under age possession, he is probably ok.

https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/kyle-rittenhouse-are-people-under-the-age-of-18-forbidden-from-open-carry-in-wi/#axzz7BqKlcoOj

[mostpost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYwD2BP2mI

Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz. A clearly hostile act. When Grosskreutz raised his arms, Rittenhouse responded by re racking his rifle and loading another round into the chamber. A definite escalation.

Rightfully fearing for his life Grosskreutz lowered his arms, but according to earlier testimony did not directly point his gun at Rittenhouse. Then Rittenhouse shot him.

Prior to this Rittenhouse had already murdered two men who attacked him with a plastic bag and a skateboard.

Rittenhouse is an immature man who inserted himself in a situation he had no business being in. A teenager trying to feel important. As a result two people are dead and another injured. I have zero sympathy for him.

[Elkchester Road]

Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz. A clearly hostile act. When Grosskreutz raised his arms, Rittenhouse responded by re racking his rifle and loading another round into the chamber. A definite escalation.

Rightfully fearing for his life Grosskreutz lowered his arms, but according to earlier testimony did not directly point his gun at Rittenhouse. Then Rittenhouse shot him.

Prior to this Rittenhouse had already murdered two men who attacked him with a plastic bag and a skateboard.

Rittenhouse is an immature man who inserted himself in a situation he had no business being in. A teenager trying to feel important. As a result two people are dead and another injured. I have zero sympathy for him.

Ehhh...I don't think you shocked anybody here with this Revelation.

[Rex Phinney]

Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz. A clearly hostile act. When Grosskreutz raised his arms, Rittenhouse responded by re racking his rifle and loading another round into the chamber. A definite escalation.

Rightfully fearing for his life Grosskreutz lowered his arms, but according to earlier testimony did not directly point his gun at Rittenhouse. Then Rittenhouse shot him.

Prior to this Rittenhouse had already murdered two men who attacked him with a plastic bag and a skateboard.

Rittenhouse is an immature man who inserted himself in a situation he had no business being in. A teenager trying to feel important. As a result two people are dead and another injured. I have zero sympathy for him.


Rittenhouse certainly came out of this much better than the other three.



Scoreboard.

[letswastemoney]

The prosecution must be desperate if they have to bring up video games. https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1458485597782347776

[xtb]

When Grosskreutz raised his arms, Rittenhouse responded by re racking his rifle and loading another round into the chamber. A definite escalation.



You freaking idiot, an AR-15 is a semi automatic weapon. One does not "rack" the rifle to load another round. You charge it once and just keep pulling the trigger. You have no credibility whatsoever.

[baconswitchfarm]

You freaking idiot, an AR-15 is a semi automatic weapon. One does not "rack" the rifle to load another round. You charge it once and just keep pulling the trigger. You have no credibility whatsoever.






Give him a break. When he was in the military you still had to ramrod your powder.

[Tom]

Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz. A clearly hostile act. When Grosskreutz raised his arms, Rittenhouse responded by re racking his rifle and loading another round into the chamber. A definite escalation.

Rightfully fearing for his life Grosskreutz lowered his arms, but according to earlier testimony did not directly point his gun at Rittenhouse. Then Rittenhouse shot him.

Prior to this Rittenhouse had already murdered two men who attacked him with a plastic bag and a skateboard.

Rittenhouse is an immature man who inserted himself in a situation he had no business being in. A teenager trying to feel important. As a result two people are dead and another injured. I have zero sympathy for him.

I am sure no sane person would sympathy from you.
And he had as much right to be out there as any of the Left Wing terrorists who had been there for day burning, looting, and assaulting other people.

[tucker6]

Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz. A clearly hostile act. When Grosskreutz raised his arms, Rittenhouse responded by re racking his rifle and loading another round into the chamber. A definite escalation.

Rightfully fearing for his life Grosskreutz lowered his arms, but according to earlier testimony did not directly point his gun at Rittenhouse. Then Rittenhouse shot him.

Prior to this Rittenhouse had already murdered two men who attacked him with a plastic bag and a skateboard.

Rittenhouse is an immature man who inserted himself in a situation he had no business being in. A teenager trying to feel important. As a result two people are dead and another injured. I have zero sympathy for him.

As far as I am concerned, it was victimless crime. Good riddance to scum.

[davew]

Not only did the guy with the now missing bicep point a loaded handgun at Kyle, he did not have a valid permit.

As far as under age possession, he is probably ok.

https://www.ammoland.com/2020/09/kyle-rittenhouse-are-people-under-the-age-of-18-forbidden-from-open-carry-in-wi/#axzz7BqKlcoOj

He used to have a valid permit until he got convicted of felony theft, which took his ability to hold one away .... they decided that information would not be allowed in the trial.

[mostpost]

You freaking idiot, an AR-15 is a semi automatic weapon. One does not "rack" the rifle to load another round. You charge it once and just keep pulling the trigger. You have no credibility whatsoever.

Quoting the testimony.

[xtb]

As far as I am concerned, it was victimless crime. Good riddance to scum.

The rioters are scum but the kid has been dragged through the mud. Hopefully he is able to clear his name and capitalize on this and give a big FU to all the a-holes on the left.

[xtb]

Quoting the testimony.

I hope whatever branch of the service you were supposedly in never let you near a weapon.

[stuball]

The defense has asked of a mistrial with prejudice I hope it will be granted as the prosecutor was blowing this case big time I'm sure MP .knows what that means if granted (No retrial)

[Rex Phinney]

From what I've seen of the trial this prosecutor should be worried about losing his job let alone the case. Jesus Christ what a failure.

[Tom]

Agree. He sounds dumber than mostie.

[JustRalph]

Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz. A clearly hostile act. When Grosskreutz raised his arms, Rittenhouse responded by re racking his rifle and loading another round into the chamber. A definite escalation.

Rightfully fearing for his life Grosskreutz lowered his arms, but according to earlier testimony did not directly point his gun at Rittenhouse. Then Rittenhouse shot him.

Prior to this Rittenhouse had already murdered two men who attacked him with a plastic bag and a skateboard.

Rittenhouse is an immature man who inserted himself in a situation he had no business being in. A teenager trying to feel important. As a result two people are dead and another injured. I have zero sympathy for him.

This kid is smart. Btw, your description is wrong and when that asshole tried to say he was not pointing his gun at Kyle when he was shot, the defense attorney made him admit he was pointing a gun at Kyle by showing him frame by frame video of it.

Stop spouting the company line. This kid just might grow up to be somebody

[JustRalph]

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/10/omg-tucker-carlson-goes-there-says-kyle-rittenhouses-first-victim-died-as-he-had-lived/

[xtb]

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/10/omg-tucker-carlson-goes-there-says-kyle-rittenhouses-first-victim-died-as-he-had-lived/

Mostpost will defend this maggot, birds of a feather.

[baconswitchfarm]

Mostpost will defend this maggot, birds of a feather.
The pedophile defense league will send out the bat signal and he will come running.

[Mulerider]

As far as I am concerned, it was victimless crime. Good riddance to scum.

A little bleach in the gene pool.

[davew]

prosecutorial misconduct


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykxlfcErSYs

[Tom]

Quoting the testimony.

Who's testimony, a witness or the prosecutor?
Btw, did you hear the prosecutor sarcastically list the things going on that did justify self defense, like setting fires, looting, rioting, turning over cards.....all that stuff one finds in "mostly peaceful protests?"

[Inner Dirt]

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/10/omg-tucker-carlson-goes-there-says-kyle-rittenhouses-first-victim-died-as-he-had-lived/


How is that guy ever turned lose on society? Pedophiles cannot be cured, they should never be allowed to breathe free air. He went right from a mental hospital to attend a riot, whomever turned him loose deserves to lose their job and their license, if they had one.

[xtb]

Who's testimony, a witness or the prosecutor?
Btw, did you hear the prosecutor sarcastically list the things going on that did justify self defense, like setting fires, looting, rioting, turning over cards.....all that stuff one finds in "mostly peaceful protests?"

Mostpost is being spoon fed the garbage he spews. He cannot think for himself.

[Stevecsd2]

Wow! The judge in that Tucker Carlson video was pissed at that prosecutor. I've not seen too many judges that angry at a prosecutor. The Wisconsin bar association needs to yank the prosecutor's license (but they won't.) Maybe the judge will through him in jail for contempt.

[Elkchester Road]

Give him a break. When he was in the military you still had to ramrod your powder.

:lol::lol::lol:

[lamboguy]

this judge is smart for not granting the motion to dismiss with prejudice. the defendant in my mind is a favorite to get a hung jury or an acquittal. and if he doesn't he will get one on an appeal.

the prosecution of this case is delusional. i think the prosecution wants the defendant to wait for the constructor to shoot first and maybe kill the defendant. the whole case is pretty bazzar.

[OntheRail]

Rittenhouse pointed his rifle at Grosskreutz. A clearly hostile act. When Grosskreutz raised his arms, Rittenhouse responded by re racking his rifle and loading another round into the chamber. A definite escalation.

Rightfully fearing for his life Grosskreutz lowered his arms, but according to earlier testimony did not directly point his gun at Rittenhouse. Then Rittenhouse shot him.

Prior to this Rittenhouse had already murdered two men who attacked him with a plastic bag and a skateboard.

Rittenhouse is an immature man who inserted himself in a situation he had no business being in. A teenager trying to feel important. As a result two people are dead and another injured. I have zero sympathy for him.

Did he drop his gun... no he did not. And phuck you on he murdered two... he defended his right to keep beathering. Was headed to the police for his protection. And that plastic board had steel trucks attached to it... so basically a sledgehammer.

That last bit there... about inserting oneself into a situation that they had no business be in. You mean like all the crazy ass rioters... looters and arsonist that invaded the area. Right. The whole mess could of been avoided if people minded they own business and waited for facts to be presented.

[davew]

this judge is smart for not granting the motion to dismiss with prejudice. the defendant in my mind is a favorite to get a hung jury or an acquittal. and if he doesn't he will get one on an appeal.

the prosecution of this case is delusional. i think the prosecution wants the defendant to wait for the constructor to shoot first and maybe kill the defendant. the whole case is pretty bazzar.

it was a political charge - charged within 48 hours .... during political campaign


Biden went there to spread his racist crap and accuse Rittenhouse of being a white supremist ..... althought the BLM 'mostly peaceful' protest were 'justified' ....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6zQDdhGfMQ

[rastajenk]

Merriam-Webster tweets definition of crocodile tears yesterday, of all days:

https://notthebee.com/article/a-major-corporation-just-openly-mocked-kyle-rittenhouse-for-breaking-down-while-reliving-the-worst-trauma-of-his-life-this-is-the-society-we-live-in-now

[lamboguy]

i don't know what this trial is all about, what i do know is remembering my uncle telling me a week before he died to never plead out if you are a defendant.. this is a perfect of example why he was right!

[JustRalph]

i don't know what this trial is all about, what i do know is remembering my uncle telling me a week before he died to never plead out if you are a defendant.. this is a perfect of example why he was right!

it's about this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iryQSpxSlrg

[lamboguy]

it's about this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iryQSpxSlrgvery informative info there

[Cuffdaddy]

https://nypost.com/2021/11/11/lebron-james-mocks-kyle-rittenhouses-breakdown-in-court/

Typical, out of touch LeChina James tweets out BS.

[Tom]

https://nypost.com/2021/11/11/lebron-james-mocks-kyle-rittenhouses-breakdown-in-court/

Typical, out of touch LeChina James tweets out BS.

Hey Lebron, you dipshit.
STFU.

[Tom]

i don't know what this trial is all about, what i do know is remembering my uncle telling me a week before he died to never plead out if you are a defendant.. this is a perfect of example why he was right!

Some took out the trash.
He got it 67% done.

[JustRalph]

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/11/11/gaige-grosskreutz-was-on-tv-this-morning-and-tried-to-revise-his-testimony-n428741

Now he is just plain lying on TV

[davew]

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/11/11/gaige-grosskreutz-was-on-tv-this-morning-and-tried-to-revise-his-testimony-n428741

Now he is just plain lying on TV

He is still hoping for his $10 million lawsuit against city of Kenosha for not keeping him 'safe'.

[rastajenk]

Who needs juries when you can just take your case to national TV? Wouldn't some gag orders lower the temperature a little bit? As Vince Lombardi famously asked, "What the hell is going on around here?!"

[PaceAdvantage]

Perhaps more importantly, Merriam-Webster's disgraceful, viciously cruel tweet is a sign of a cultural rot so deep and so comprehensive that it is hard to imagine we can ever come back from it.Amen. We can't.

[MargieRose]

it's about this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iryQSpxSlrg"Those rioters were used to attacking people that didn't bite back. Kyle bit."

We need more just like him!

[Elkchester Road]

"Those rioters were used to attacking people that didn't bite back. Kyle bit."

We need more just like him!

Exactly, MargieRose.

If there are riots after the Rittenhouse verdict, the Rioters will see a Hell of a lot more of this than during 2020. A lot of America has had enough...and sees that the Government is the PROBLEM, and in no way a solution.

[Tom]

I gotta say, after listening to the Judge explain the law for self defense, and watching the video in the closing arguments by the moron prosecutor who is doing a tremendous presentation today, Kyle is guilty. He did not act in self defense.

It would be a grave mistake to send a message that behavior like this will be tolerated.
WE have to be better than THEM.

See, you Trump haters, you CAN separate personalities from facts.

[PaceAdvantage]

Now they're trying to float the idea that the JUDGE should be removed.

CENSORED

CANCELLED

LMAO

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/kyle-rittenhouse-judge-has-gotten-his-share-of-criticism-can-a-judge-be-removed-from-a-case-not-likely/ar-AAQK7tl?rt=0

[mostpost]

I gotta say, after listening to the Judge explain the law for self defense, and watching the video in the closing arguments by the moron prosecutor who is doing a tremendous presentation today, Kyle is guilty. He did not act in self defense.

It would be a grave mistake to send a message that behavior like this will be tolerated.
WE have to be better than THEM.

See, you Trump haters, you CAN separate personalities from facts.

Comparing this with 162 and 163, and other previous post in this thread, I must commend you on being willing to change your opinion.

[mostpost]

I gotta say, after listening to the Judge explain the law for self defense, and watching the video in the closing arguments by the moron prosecutor who is doing a tremendous presentation today, Kyle is guilty. He did not act in self defense.

It would be a grave mistake to send a message that behavior like this will be tolerated.
WE have to be better than THEM.

See, you Trump haters, you CAN separate personalities from facts.

As for that last sentence, in the case of Trump, the personality and the facts both suck.

[MargieRose]

I gotta say, after listening to the Judge explain the law for self defense, and watching the video in the closing arguments by the moron prosecutor who is doing a tremendous presentation today, Kyle is guilty. He did not act in self defense.

It would be a grave mistake to send a message that behavior like this will be tolerated.
WE have to be better than THEM.

See, you Trump haters, you CAN separate personalities from facts.How does one rationalize describing a prosecutor as a "moron" and "tremendous" in the same sentence?

How would the "law for self defense" be applied in this case, if Kyle were a female?

If Kyle is found guilty, "THEM" will become so emboldened and so fearless that "WE" will forever fear NOT cowering to the thugs of this world.

The new NYC mayor has already been threatened by the thug BLM leader in the city. Bring back certain policing laws and burn baby burn!

And, what about those jurors being intimidated...photos of homes, addresses, etc., apparently, being collected?

Instead of calls for the judge to be canceled, censored, whatever, where are the calls for the rest of those street thugs to be prosecuted? WHEN will we ever see THAT?

Like Biden said: "My patience is wearing thin."

Big Wins for Defense on Jury Instructions, State Leads with Provocation (https://lawofselfdefense.com/rittenhouse-trial-big-wins-for-defense-on-jury-instructions-state-leads-with-provocation/)

[jimmyb]

I've been reading a lot about Rittenhouse being the benefactor of white privilege.



In July 2020, Adam Abdul-Jabbar, son of hall of fame basketball player Kareem Abdul Jabbar, stabbed Raymond Windsor, 60, several times in the back, head, neck and abdomen.



His privileged ass got a 6 month jail sentence.



https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/kareem-abdul-jabbars-son-sentenced-to-180-days-in-jail-for-stabbing-neighbor/

[Tom]

Comparing this with 162 and 163, and other previous post in this thread, I must commend you on being willing to change your opinion.

It's what separates us from democrats.
Now hat the Steele Dossier has been proven false, has a single democrat has the integrity to admit it and apologize?

[davew]

It's what separates us from democrats.
Now hat the Steele Dossier has been proven false, has a single democrat has the integrity to admit it and apologize?

What? The head of House intelligence committee Adam Schiff still says the Steele information is mostly true. I am not sure what mostly part he is referring to, but he has seen the 'top secret' information. :lol::lol::lol:

[MargieRose]

State’s Weak Provocation Argument is the Major Threat to Acquittal (https://lawofselfdefense.com/rittenhouse-analysis-states-weak-provocation-argument-is-the-major-threat-to-acquittal/)


If the jury buys this 11th hour provocation argument then, the entire self-defense chessboard is tipped over, and all the pieces so strongly positioned for Kyle’s legal defense of self-defense are dumped on the floor.

The only outcome possible then will be verdicts of guilty on every use-of-force count.

You can understand, then, why the prosecution finds this provocation argument so attractive.

Of course, this provocation argument is not without its weaknesses, the greatest being the ridiculously weak evidence in support of this theory of the case.

The purported evidence of Kyle pointing his rifle at any individual consists of a late-found drone video and a Rorschach-like enlarged image taken from that video that could be anything or could be nothing.

Indeed, adding the context of other circumstantial evidence—such as the admission of the State’s imaging expert that his “zoom” process adds to the original image pixels of unpredictable color, and that right-handed Kyle would have had to suddenly decide to handle his rifle in a left-handed manner (no easy task with the way his sling was set up)—it seems ludicrous that any reasonable juror could look at that the video or image offered proved anything whatever beyond a reasonable doubt, much less that Kyle had pointed his rifle at any individual.

As weak as their argument on provocation is, however, their argument without provocation is even weaker—so the State is running with the rather pathetic best argument they can bring to the table.

And it might just work. I think it unlikely that the State will be able to convince 12 jurors that this video and photo prove provocation beyond a reasonable doubt—certainly not 12 rational, fair, and impartial jurors.

But some jurors are neither rational, nor fair, nor impartial. And if any single juror is looking for a reason—any reason!—to vote guilty despite the pronounced weakness of the state’s use-of-force charges in the context of self-defense, then this provocation argument may be just enough to tip the scales.

Now, one convinced juror is not enough to render an actual verdict of guilt—that takes a unanimous decision of all 12 jurors.

But one convinced juror is enough to hang the jury and result in a mistrial. And a mistrial on these grounds simply means that ADA Binger is free to re-boot the criminal prosecution of Kyle Rittenhouse all over again, bringing the same resources to bear a second time, against a defendant whose resources will surely be substantially depleted for a second fight.

[Tom]

Provocation never entered my mind when I changed my mind.

[MargieRose]

Provocation never entered my mind when I changed my mind.Then, what changed your mind? The prosecution is hanging their feather-hat on supposed provocation to bring down a guilty verdict.

[davew]

Then, what changed your mind? The prosecution is hanging their feather-hat on supposed provocation to bring down a guilty verdict.

the new hocus pocus out of focus enhanced picture?


self defense does not protect against mob attacks?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1POM9Zf7JVc

[tucker6]

Provocation never entered my mind when I changed my mind.

You're all wet on this one. In fact, a fair minded DA would never have brought charges in the first place. That's how obvious this one is. Margie is right. There is a real risk that the barbarians are emboldened if he's found guilty.

[xtb]

the new hocus pocus out of focus enhanced picture?


self defense does not protect against mob attacks?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1POM9Zf7JVc

The kid did show incredible restraint. Most people in his position would have just sprayed bullets at the crowd. He has some seriously good skills.

[Tom]

the new hocus pocus out of focus enhanced picture?


self defense does not protect against mob attacks?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV0F_XiR48Q

[Tom]

Then, what changed your mind? The prosecution is hanging their feather-hat on supposed provocation to bring down a guilty verdict.

I am basing it on the video and the testimony.

[xtb]

I am basing it on the video and the testimony.

If Kyle does not shoot them, he is dead.

[Tom]

The kid did show incredible restraint. Most people in his position would have just sprayed bullets at the crowd. He has some seriously good skills.

Had not already shot someone, the crowd would have been after him. The kid is punk-ass wannbe. He had no business being out there. He is underage and there was curfew. You claim self defense when you put yourself in the situation that you created. The crowd gave him warning-protect your property, get off the street.

Rambo was waving a rifle at people. Isn't that provocation.

And where is the owner of the car lot who hired a 17 year old to protect his property? THIS POS needs to be in jail.

The knew he was too young to own the gun, he knew there was a curfew, he repeatedly lied throughout the night. The only reason he "needed" a gun was for protection from the very situation he willingly and wrongfully put himself in.

Suppose a guy robs a bank and runs down the street. I see him and give chase.
Seeing he has a gun, I grab a skateboard from some kid and swing it at him. He then shoots me.

Is he justified?

[PaceAdvantage]

Why would you chase a bank robber who has a gun? Now that's stupid...lol

[tucker6]

Suppose a guy robs a bank and runs down the street. I see him and give chase.
Seeing he has a gun, I grab a skateboard from some kid and swing it at him. He then shoots me.

Is he justified?
The short answer is YES

[Stevecsd2]

The short answer is YES


If the person with the skateboard dies the bank robber could be subject to the felony murder rule. He committed a felony robbing a bank. Shooting someone who is chasing him is related to that felony. So he would not be justified in my mind.

[Tom]

I don't think he planned to kill anyone, I don't think he is a terrorist. Of course the left wing is totally off base. An immature kid broke curfew, had a weapon he should not have had, and got himself in over his head. This why we don't let kids walk around with guns.

Murder 2 possibly, maybe Man 1.

Both attorneys are liars and both sides of the media are disgusting in their coverage.

[tucker6]

If the person with the skateboard dies the bank robber could be subject to the felony murder rule. He committed a felony robbing a bank. Shooting someone who is chasing him is related to that felony. So he would not be justified in my mind.

The two are unrelated incidents. If the skateboard incident happens right outside the bank, then you may be correct, but all the action in this scenario is a result of the chaser starting a fight long after the perpetrator is gone from the bank. Just because you rob a bank doesn't mean you can't defend yourself against being beaten to death by a skateboard three streets over.

[xtb]

Had not already shot someone, the crowd would have been after him. The kid is punk-ass wannbe. He had no business being out there. He is underage and there was curfew. You claim self defense when you put yourself in the situation that you created. The crowd gave him warning-protect your property, get off the street.

Rambo was waving a rifle at people. Isn't that provocation.

And where is the owner of the car lot who hired a 17 year old to protect his property? THIS POS needs to be in jail.

The knew he was too young to own the gun, he knew there was a curfew, he repeatedly lied throughout the night. The only reason he "needed" a gun was for protection from the very situation he willingly and wrongfully put himself in.

Suppose a guy robs a bank and runs down the street. I see him and give chase.
Seeing he has a gun, I grab a skateboard from some kid and swing it at him. He then shoots me.

Is he justified?

The crowd was after him before he shot the 5x child rapist when they realized he was not one of them. If Kyle did not shoot the POS, he would certainly be dead or maimed.
The sheriff met with him earlier in the day and knew what his intentions were in protecting the car dealership, but did not tell him he could not.
Kyle was not too young to own a gun, the gun charges were thrown out.

While Kyle Rittenhouse was from "out of state", he was only 20 miles away. His father, grandmother and brother lived in Kenosha and he often stayed with them. He worked in Kenosha as a lifeguard. He spent the afternoon cleaning graffiti from the BLM/antifa animals. The BLM/antifa animals came from 44 different states, they were the ones who had no business being there. This was Kyle Rittenhouse's home and he wanted to do something to help. He had a medical kit that night to help people. Yes, it was dumb to take this on himself, he should have had at least one armed partner and probably a shorter barrel, although the shorter barrel is what saved him from the gun charges.

[Tom]

The crowd was after him before he shot the 5x child rapist when they realized he was not one of them. If Kyle did not shoot the POS, he would certainly be dead or maimed.
The sheriff met with him earlier in the day and knew what his intentions were in protecting the car dealership, but did not tell him he could not.
Kyle was not too young to own a gun, the gun charges were thrown out.

While Kyle Rittenhouse was from "out of state", he was only 20 miles away. His father, grandmother and brother lived in Kenosha and he often stayed with them. He worked in Kenosha as a lifeguard. He spent the afternoon cleaning graffiti from the BLM/antifa animals. The BLM/antifa animals came from 44 different states, they were the ones who had no business being there. This was Kyle Rittenhouse's home and he wanted to do something to help. He had a medical kit that night to help people. Yes, it was dumb to take this on himself, he should have had at least one armed partner and probably a shorter barrel, although the shorter barrel is what saved him from the gun charges.

Skin color aside, you sound just like BLM.

[xtb]

Skin color aside, you sound just like BLM.

Sorry to hear that Tom.

[tucker6]

Skin color aside, you sound just like BLM.

I have ZERO problems with the deaths of the two guys by Rittenhouse or the shooting of the third. The world needs fewer of their kind. If that makes me like BLM, then okay.

[Tom]

I have ZERO problems with the deaths of the two guys by Rittenhouse or the shooting of the third. The world needs fewer of their kind. If that makes me like BLM, then okay.

It does.
Sad.

xtb's whole post was void of facts and full of personal opinion.
I agree with most of it, the lie about crossing state lines, etc, but that is CNN thinking. I agree the world is better off without those two, but do we now two standards of justice, one people we don't like?

Look only at the facts, forget all the media chest pounding, consider only what has been proven to be true, not scum bag lawyers on either side you.

[xtb]

A black lady called me a n****r one time because I wouldn’t give her money when she was panhandling. She then threatened to “cut” me when I laughed. I never thought I would be called something more absurd, until today.

[tucker6]

It does.
Sad.
.

The difference is that I am not asking you or anyone else to adhere to my views on any subject. They do.

[tucker6]

A black lady called me a n****r one time because I wouldn’t give her money when she was panhandling. She then threatened to “cut” me when I laughed. I never thought I would be called something more absurd, until today.
My wife was called a white ass cracker two weeks ago.

[MargieRose]

Defense Delivers A Disappointingly Weak Closing Argument (https://lawofselfdefense.com/rittenhouse-trial-defense-delivers-a-disappointingly-weak-closing-argument/)

This is an unpleasant task because on the legal merits Kyle Rittenhouse ought to be acquitted by a unanimous jury on every one of the five felony accounts against him, with the State having failed to prove provocation beyond a reasonable doubt and having failed to have disproven self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt.

And that may still happen. I hope it does. He deserves those acquittals.

That said, I’m well aware that sometimes defendants who deserve acquittal end up getting convicted, regardless. There might be many reasons that could occur. One of those reasons is a weak legal defense, and particularly a weak defense in the critical closing argument, the last opportunity the defense team has to plead their narrative of innocence to the jury.

If the legal defense effort, particularly the closing argument, is as close to perfect as a skilled attorney can hope to deliver and the client gets convicted regardless—well, at least from my perspective as a lawyer, at least I know I did the best I could, and it didn’t go sideways because I could have done more.

When an effort far short of perfect is delivered, again particularly in closing argument, and the client deserving of acquittal gets convicted, then one is always left to wonder whether a better closing argument might have made the difference, whether if more had been done the client would be free today.

Kyle Rittenhouse deserved a better closing argument than he got today, and if he’s convicted on any of these charges I would find it hard to not attribute such an injustice to much of anything except today’s weak closing argument by his Attorney Mark Richards (well, excepting, of course, for the politically-motivated prosecution itself, but that’s precisely what the defense is supposed to stop).

The weaknesses in the defense closing argument really fall into two broad categories, with a bit of overlap. [...]

[xtb]

The crowd was after him before he shot the 5x child rapist when they realized he was not one of them. If Kyle did not shoot the POS, he would certainly be dead or maimed.
The sheriff met with him earlier in the day and knew what his intentions were in protecting the car dealership, but did not tell him he could not.
Kyle was not too young to own a gun, the gun charges were thrown out.

While Kyle Rittenhouse was from "out of state", he was only 20 miles away. His father, grandmother and brother lived in Kenosha and he often stayed with them. He worked in Kenosha as a lifeguard. He spent the afternoon cleaning graffiti from the BLM/antifa animals. The BLM/antifa animals came from 44 different states, they were the ones who had no business being there. This was Kyle Rittenhouse's home and he wanted to do something to help. He had a medical kit that night to help people. Yes, it was dumb to take this on himself, he should have had at least one armed partner and probably a shorter barrel, although the shorter barrel is what saved him from the gun charges.

Last line should have read “not having a shorter barrel saved him from the gun charges”.

[MargieRose]

I am basing it on the video and the testimony.The video (the zoomed, blurred one; if that's the one you are referring to) is what the prosecutors are banking on to prove PROVOCATION.

[Tom]

The video (the zoomed, blurred one; if that's the one you are referring to) is what the prosecutors are banking on to prove PROVOCATION.

There is a lot of video that is very clear.
And isn't his pointing a gun at someone provocation?

[JustRalph]

I would make one comment/caution

The people on this Jury are the same people who tolerated these riots. They have yet to stand up and raise hell about it.

That would worry me if I was for the defense

[MargieRose]

There is a lot of video that is very clear.
And isn't his pointing a gun at someone provocation?Is it in the blurred video that you are assuming he was pointing his gun at someone unprovoked, to begin with? The prosecutors are.

Lots of people, including seasoned attorneys, don't see it that way. The clear videos, where he WAS pointing his gun at someone, absolutely show that he was doing so in self-defense...nothing less.

Regardless, the burden of proof "beyond a reasonable doubt" (i.e. no doubt) has not been met, IMO. If it were, there would not be so many differing opinions; most of them weighted in self-defense. Consider the source, as well, of most of the people declaring otherwise.

[garyscpa]

I would make one comment/caution

The people on this Jury are the same people who tolerated these riots. They have yet to stand up and raise hell about it.

That would worry me if I was for the defense

And they might be afraid of what will happen if they acquit.

[MargieRose]

And they might be afraid of what will happen if they acquit.This is something that a called-upon juror should reveal during jury selection. If enough people expressed this concern, a new venue would likely be required. As it stands, these jurors will have to decide whether to live with THEIR guilty conscience or to live with their fears in the obligated pursuit of justice.

[davew]

the prosecutors are so bad they lied about the gun charge, the judge had to drop it. The also showed pictures saying what could not be determined from picture.

[jocko699]

And they might be afraid of what will happen if they acquit.

They should be more worried about what happens if they find him guilty.

[myohmyjustify]

My wife was called a white ass cracker two weeks ago.


She could have been called worse. She could have been called a "Karen".

[Tom]

Is it in the blurred video that you are assuming he was pointing his gun at someone unprovoked, to begin with? The prosecutors are.

Lots of people, including seasoned attorneys, don't see it that way. The clear videos, where he WAS pointing his gun at someone, absolutely show that he was doing so in self-defense...nothing less.

Regardless, the burden of proof "beyond a reasonable doubt" (i.e. no doubt) has not been met, IMO. If it were, there would not be so many differing opinions; most of them weighted in self-defense. Consider the source, as well, of most of the people declaring otherwise.

No video, testimony.
By Baby Rambo himself.

[tucker6]

She could have been called worse. She could have been called a "Karen".
A Karen she is not.

[MargieRose]

No video, testimony.
By Baby Rambo himself.I gotta say, after listening to the Judge explain the law for self defense, and watching the video in the closing arguments by the moron prosecutor who is doing a tremendous presentation today, Kyle is guilty. He did not act in self defense.Provocation never entered my mind when I changed my mind.I am basing it on the video and the testimony.And isn't his pointing a gun at someone provocation?Now it's "No video, testimony." ↑

So, you changed your mind...why? You're confusing me. http://www.myemoticons.com/images/emotions/thinking/hmm.gif

[OntheRail]

There is a lot of video that is very clear.
And isn't his pointing a gun at someone provocation?

From the videos I've seen. I did not see him pointing his weapon willynilly at random people.. and he sure as hell did not spray and pray like boyz from the hood all Rambo style. No innocent bystanders where shot by him.

As for provocation... depends on the circumstances. The pointing of a weapon... can be used as a deterrent to a perceived threat... with out a shot fired. While allowing you to be at the ready if further action is required. In this case I say no they are slinging shit in the hope something sticks.

[ReplayRandall]

Watch at the very end.....What did you see?

https://twitter.com/TickleTexts/status/1460499181651607555

[davew]

COME ON MAN, that was after Rittenhouse pointed his gun at people, like this guy pointing gun at jury. After being 'threatened' it is permissible for mob to chase down and injure/kill someone like Kyle.

https://www.thewashingtontime.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Hapless-Rittenhouse-prosecutor-is-slammed-for-pointing-AR-15-AT-jury.jpg

[boxcar]

because the Defense has very good grounds!

Rittenhouse Defense Files Late Motion for Mistrial with Prejudice — No Retrial if Granted

https://thelibertydaily.com/breaking-rittenhouse-defense-files-late-motion-for-mistrial-with-prejudice-no-retrial-if-granted/

[Tom]

Now it's "No video, testimony." ↑

So, you changed your mind...why? You're confusing me. http://www.myemoticons.com/images/emotions/thinking/hmm.gif

No video, meaning I am not basing it on any video, blurred or not. I was referring to testimony by Rittenhouse. Early on, a guy thought Rit pointed his gun at him. He asked him if he did and Rit said yes, to avoid a conflict. But by doing so, anyone around him were under the impression that this kid is walking around pointing a rifle at people.

The only time I changed my mind was after listening to hours of testimony and videos. I do not agree that he acted in self defense in every charge. I do think, however, that there is ample instances of prosecutorial overreach for a mistrial, or even dismissal of charges with prejudice. The most important thing going on is that we can't allow government to use these kinds of sleezy tactics against the accused, no matter who they are.

btw...now, 12:35pm est, jury may soon coming back to review video. What video may be telling how they may be leaning.

[Tom]

COME ON MAN, that was after Rittenhouse pointed his gun at people, like this guy pointing gun at jury. After being 'threatened' it is permissible for mob to chase down and injure/kill someone like Kyle.

https://www.thewashingtontime.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Hapless-Rittenhouse-prosecutor-is-slammed-for-pointing-AR-15-AT-jury.jpg

OMG, wouldn't it be ironic if he shot the jury! :eek:

btw, I have not heard, or missed it, but do we know how many rounds he fired in total? We know he had 30 rounds to start.

[classhandicapper]

Watch at the very end.....What did you see?

https://twitter.com/TickleTexts/status/1460499181651607555

This video may be a missing a key part to the story.

You can see the guy he shot in the arm and you can see the guy he shot that falls to the ground (he died), but one other person died. So they may have been chasing him because he killed someone else first. We have to see that video too.

[ReplayRandall]

This video may be a missing a key part to the story.

You can see the guy he shot in the arm and you can see the guy he shot that falls to the ground (he died), but one other person died. So they may have been chasing him because he killed someone else first. We have to see that video too.Here you go....Multiple angles of info.....Can't vouch for the site, but it's a start.

https://yourdaddyjoey.news/2021/11/16/exclusive-jumpkick-man-identified/

[Jeff P]

Link to a Yahoo News article with enhanced video of the first shooting:
https://www.yahoo.com/now/enhanced-drone-video-shows-first-155330597.html

Hint: wait for the ad to get done playing.


-jp

.

[Karakorum Kabbage]

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/1461042128621125635

[fast4522]

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/1461042128621125635

Is his AR-15 as nice as yours?:lol:

[classhandicapper]

Link to a Yahoo News article with enhanced video of the first shooting:
https://www.yahoo.com/now/enhanced-drone-video-shows-first-155330597.html

Hint: wait for the ad to get done playing.


-jp

.

Thanks.

[classhandicapper]

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/1461042128621125635

I'll explain the problem to you.

When people believe the police is the enemy and leftist politicians tell the police to stand down, that gives the bad guys a license to steal, riot, attack innocent people, destroy property, rape women etc...

When generally law abiding citizens are put in that position, they feel compelled to use their guns to defend themselves and private property because the government and police are not.

When you mix and bunch of angry rioters with a bunch of people trying to protect themselves and private property, bad things are going to happen. This case is an example.

In this case, had the police, national guard or whoever been allowed to bring the rioters under control, this kid would have been home shooting cans, squirrels, or something else and not people. But the left keeps allowing these rioters and criminals to have free reign on our cities and private property.

Quite frankly, they are either MORONS or TRYING TO CAUSE CHAOS for political gain or some other agenda.

Now we can take it back even further.

We absolutely DO need some police reform. No one should ever be a target of the police because of their skin color. We don't want anyone to feel like the police is the enemy. But we also need the mainstream media to STOP LYING and SPINNING. They are whipping people into a frenzy by creating a narrative that is not supported by the data.

You know why the media does that?

(please excuse the language) They are SCUMBAGS TRYING TO CAUSE CHAOS for political gain or some other agenda.

We could end all of this with some solid real police reform and by getting all the leftist morons, scumbags, and liars out of office and the media.

[JustRalph]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1460775246064238592

[davew]

who are the white supremacists?

prosecutors, judge, 'victims', accused, defense attorneys, democrat politicians, most news organizations ....

[TJDave]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1460775246064238592

Apostrophe missing in can’t.

Strike one.

[davew]

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/1461042128621125635

COME ON MAN, he was within 1000 feet of a school :eek:

[zico20]

No video, meaning I am not basing it on any video, blurred or not. I was referring to testimony by Rittenhouse. Early on, a guy thought Rit pointed his gun at him. He asked him if he did and Rit said yes, to avoid a conflict. But by doing so, anyone around him were under the impression that this kid is walking around pointing a rifle at people.

The only time I changed my mind was after listening to hours of testimony and videos. I do not agree that he acted in self defense in every charge. I do think, however, that there is ample instances of prosecutorial overreach for a mistrial, or even dismissal of charges with prejudice. The most important thing going on is that we can't allow government to use these kinds of sleezy tactics against the accused, no matter who they are.

btw...now, 12:35pm est, jury may soon coming back to review video. What video may be telling how they may be leaning.

I believe it is at this point that you call police and let them handle it.

[Tom]

This higher quality video may be the end of it all. Not proving the best evidence to the defense is major. Judge could wait to see what verdict comes in and the declare a mistrial.

Meanwhile, in Georgia, prosecution is into McMichael's shorts. Judge made a ruling that we don't know yet about letting her bring up the racial slur he supposedly made over the dead man. :popcorn:

[JustRalph]

This higher quality video may be the end of it all. Not proving the best evidence to the defense is major. Judge could wait to see what verdict comes in and the declare a mistrial.

Meanwhile, in Georgia, prosecution is into McMichael's shorts. Judge made a ruling that we don't know yet about letting her bring up the racial slur he supposedly made over the dead man. :popcorn:

I think he has to rule on the mistrial before hearing a verdict.

[Tom]

I think he has to rule on the mistrial before hearing a verdict.

He said yesterday that he reserved judgement at any time. May have been media-vultures who said after.

https://c.tenor.com/awCS8A7GCkoAAAAC/vulture-crow.gif

CNN LEMON AND CUOMO

[ElKabong]

Supposed msnbc producer being held for chasing a bus with the jurors aboard. Was going to take photos. Judge has ordered no msnbc employee be in the courtroom until an investigation has been completed

https://www.kenoshanews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/nbc-news-barred-from-kenosha-courthouse-after-producer-allegedly-followed-jury-bus-judge-schroeder-says/article_bf797a95-395c-521d-bb9c-8e79a2558543.html

[Tom]

New video drone footage, withheld by prosecutor, clearly grounds not only fo dismissal with prejudice, but charging DA with denying Rit his constitutional rights.

Even with the new video, I still his first shot was self defense, #2,3 and 4 were murder, or manslaughter.

But I can't wait the suit against Biden for his false slanderous comments.

[tucker6]

New video drone footage, withheld by prosecutor, clearly grounds not only fo dismissal with prejudice, but charging DA with denying Rit his constitutional rights.

Even with the new video, I still his first shot was self defense, #2,3 and 4 were murder, or manslaughter.

But I can't wait the suit against Biden for his false slanderous comments.
I try to put myself in Rittenhouse's shoes if I had been stupid enough to be there in the first place, which I wouldn't. If I felt threatened and chased, my adrenalin would be sky high, and I could easily find myself pressing the trigger longer than I would at a practice range. When you are scared for your life, I think one would tend to go overboard if it was spontaneous rather than leave the threat present. As a juror, you have to place yourself there and ask whether what he did was reasonable for the conditions he was under. I think so even if I think he was dumb for being there. I look at him and don't see a bad person. Just naïve and someone older should have counseled him better that day.

[Inner Dirt]

I try to put myself in Rittenhouse's shoes if I had been stupid enough to be there in the first place, which I wouldn't. If I felt threatened and chased, my adrenalin would be sky high, and I could easily find myself pressing the trigger longer than I would at a practice range. When you are scared for your life, I think one would tend to go overboard if it was spontaneous rather than leave the threat present. As a juror, you have to place yourself there and ask whether what he did was reasonable for the conditions he was under. I think so even if I think he was dumb for being there. I look at him and don't see a bad person. Just naïve and someone older should have counseled him better that day.


A severe case of being a stupid teenager. Even though he went somewhere armed he was greatly outnumbered by a bunch of violent rioters.

[classhandicapper]

I'm not stupid enough to go somewhere armed for a potential confrontation either. I'd be more likely to move out of any area where confrontations and riots are occurring. :lol: But again. when rioters are looting, burning, and destroying private property and the police is handcuffed from doing anything about it, citizens will eventually take these matters into their own hands. That's what makes it a monumental error to allow it to continue. You are begging for a riot (which is bad enough) to turn into a major confrontation with casualties.

[OntheRail]

I try to put myself in Rittenhouse's shoes if I had been stupid enough to be there in the first place, which I wouldn't. If I felt threatened and chased, my adrenalin would be sky high, and I could easily find myself pressing the trigger longer than I would at a practice range. When you are scared for your life, I think one would tend to go overboard if it was spontaneous rather than leave the threat present. As a juror, you have to place yourself there and ask whether what he did was reasonable for the conditions he was under. I think so even if I think he was dumb for being there. I look at him and don't see a bad person. Just naïve and someone older should have counseled him better that day.

You can hold that trigger till the cows come home. You know what's not gonna happen? The next shot... semi auto man. You know that. Unless you stating you'd of got your head beat in with the skateboard or shot in the head. Either way the kid showed remarkable control.

[Tom]

You can hold that trigger till the cows come home. You know what's not gonna happen? The next shot... semi auto man. You know that. Unless you stating you'd of got your head beat in with the skateboard or shot in the head. Either way the kid showed remarkable control.

Neither of those two things were related to the first shooting.

[OntheRail]

Neither of those two things were related to the first shooting.

So them yelling and screaming kill him he's the one... chasing him down ... was just a coincidence... okay. Either way he had to defend himself from multiple people who wanted to harm him. Self defense is not a one and done situation... it goes till all threats stop.

But my post was pointed to turker6 holding down trigger. And trying to understand his context. Nothing with the trial.

[Tom]

So them yelling and screaming kill him he's the one... chasing him down ... was just a coincidence... okay. Either way he had to defend himself from multiple people who wanted to harm him. Self defense is not a one and done situation... it goes till all threats stop.

But my post was pointed to turker6 holding down trigger. And trying to understand his context. Nothing with the trial.

When he fired the 4 shots, there was no crowd attacking him with guns or skateboards. That came later.

[Jeff P]

CBS4
Witnesses: Threat, lunge for gun from 1st Rittenhouse victim:
https://mycbs4.com/news/nation-world/detective-rittenhouse-shouted-friendly-to-pursuer

Richie McGinniss, who was recording events on a cellphone that night for the conservative website The Daily Caller, testified that Joseph Rosenbaum, the first man shot that night, was killed after chasing down Rittenhouse and lunging for the gun.

“I think it was very clear to me that he was reaching specifically for the weapon,” McGinniss said.


From the 32 minute video towards the top of the page at the above link:

9:00 minute mark - Witness testifies Rittenhouse stopped and turned because it looked like he had run into a corner or dead end.

16:00 minute mark - Prosecutor freezes overhead drone video and asks witness to describe what he saw.

Watch and listen from there.




-jp

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[zico20]

I think he has to rule on the mistrial before hearing a verdict.

Any judge can override a guilty verdict from the jury. He should if it comes to that. He can call for a mistrial at any time, he is waiting to see how the jury votes.

[PaceAdvantage]

https://twitter.com/JasonKander/status/1461042128621125635Jason Kander should just kill himself then if he's so distraught over this.

[davew]

When he fired the 4 shots, there was no crowd attacking him with guns or skateboards. That came later.

there were shots fired just before and a plastic bag with unknown liquid inside was thrown at him.

[fast4522]

When he fired the 4 shots, there was no crowd attacking him with guns or skateboards. That came later.

And this story will drop faster than Brian Laundrie found in the desert, the news cycle jumps to the part of the country where it sells to those who have seat belts on their living room sets.

[Tom]

Not guilty on all charges.