Only Some Black Lives Matter

[woodtoo]

59 year old Bernell Trammell was shot dead in broad daylight sitting in a lawn chair outside his Milwaukee business on July 23 2020 for the sole reason of being a vociferous Donald Trump supporter.

His killer remains unknown and at large.

Where is BLM? where is Al Sharpton? One full week has passed, where is the outrage for this beloved community icons cold-blooded murder. Where is the coverage on MSDNC, CNN etc. (I found story on FOX affiliate.

It is crystal clear the BLM movement is a complete sham.
They care not about black deaths they are racists. IMO

[woodbinepmi]

Doesn't fir the narrative.

[boxcar]

59 year old Bernell Trammell was shot dead in broad daylight sitting in a lawn chair outside his Milwaukee business on July 23 2020 for the sole reason of being a vociferous Donald Trump supporter.

His killer remains unknown and at large.

Where is BLM? where is Al Sharpton? One full week has passed, where is the outrage for this beloved community icons cold-blooded murder. Where is the coverage on MSDNC, CNN etc. (I found story on FOX affiliate.

It is crystal clear the BLM movement is a complete sham.
They care not about black deaths they are racists. IMO

SBLM has a nice ring to it... :rolleyes:

[GMB@BP]

59 year old Bernell Trammell was shot dead in broad daylight sitting in a lawn chair outside his Milwaukee business on July 23 2020 for the sole reason of being a vociferous Donald Trump supporter.

His killer remains unknown and at large.

Where is BLM? where is Al Sharpton? One full week has passed, where is the outrage for this beloved community icons cold-blooded murder. Where is the coverage on MSDNC, CNN etc. (I found story on FOX affiliate.

It is crystal clear the BLM movement is a complete sham.
They care not about black deaths they are racists. IMO

Soon killing Trump supporters or conservatives will be equal to killing Jews in 1930's Germany. It will get a shrug of the shoulders.

[Tom]

BLM probably shot him.

[PaceAdvantage]

Soon killing Trump supporters or conservatives will be equal to killing Jews in 1930's Germany. It will get a shrug of the shoulders.It sure seems to be heading this way...

over 51% of liberals polled recently thought nothing of having someone fired if it was found out they contributed $$ to Trump's campaign.

They didn't start killing Jews at the start either...they just made their lives as miserable as possible...after blaming the ills of the country on them all.

[Marshall Bennett]

Once power is achieved they'll eventually seize property and financial information. They won't boot you from your home, but you won't own it any more. You'll be left enough money so your family doesn't starve.
This scenario has played out before through-out history elsewhere, and can happen here. If you're a democrat you're not exempt either. Unless you fit their requirements of wealth and power, you're in the same garbage can as the rest of us.
This current crop of leftist radicals are no better than the Nazis were. Who says they won't be worse? The Nazis weren't kind to communist either. These assholes are.

[Tom]

It sure seems to be heading this way...

over 51% of liberals polled recently thought nothing of having someone fired if it was found out they contributed $$ to Trump's campaign.

They didn't start killing Jews at the start either...they just made their lives as miserable as possible...after blaming the ills of the country on them all.

At first, they just made it hard for people to patronize the businesses of Jews, and then made social interactions hard for them......very much like current days............

[Greyfox]

Once power is achieved they'll eventually seize property and financial information. They won't boot you from your home, but you won't own it any more. You'll be left enough money so your family doesn't starve.
This scenario has played out before through-out history elsewhere, and can happen here.

Yes. You get it Marshall. Unfortunately many don't understand that.
"Socialism" is about the State owning all property.
Many of those riot-protestors don't own a pot to piss in.
Student loan debts are $1.6 Trillion.
What do they have to lose by jumping on the Socialism bandwagon?
They don't own anything anyways and have no respect for anyone's property or Government buildings.
They are "Losers" in Life, but instead of blaming themselves, they blame "the Capitalist System."

[GMB@BP]

You know what you dont see when we start discussing opinions on where things are heading..........people defending the other side saying thats not going on and its not going to happen.

[woodtoo]

Yes. You get it Marshall. Unfortunately many don't understand that.
"Socialism" is about the State owning all property.
Many of those riot-protestors don't own a pot to piss in.
Student loan debts are $1.6 Trillion.
What do they have to lose by jumping on the Socialism bandwagon?
They don't own anything anyways and have no respect for anyone's property or Government buildings.
They are "Losers" in Life, but instead of blaming themselves, they blame "the Capitalist System."

Well said as a high proportion of antifa are young lawyers and teachers who you would think would know better but don't.

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[boxcar]

Well said as a high proportion of antifa are young lawyers and teachers who you would think would know better but don't.

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That's because most of them are drowning in debt and the hope their "revolution" will get them out from under.

[Dave Schwartz]

Yes. You get it Marshall. Unfortunately many don't understand that.
"Socialism" is about the State owning all property.
Many of those riot-protestors don't own a pot to piss in.
Student loan debts are $1.6 Trillion.
What do they have to lose by jumping on the Socialism bandwagon?
They don't own anything anyways and have no respect for anyone's property or Government buildings.
They are "Losers" in Life, but instead of blaming themselves, they blame "the Capitalist System."

Spot on.

:ThmbUp:

[Saratoga_Mike]

BLM probably shot him.

Bernell Trammell, 60, whose sometimes contradictory political views included supporting Black Lives Matter and many liberals, was killed outside his office in the eclectic and diverse Riverwest neighborhood of Milwaukee on July 23.

Gerard Randall, chairman of the Wisconsin Republican Party’s African American Council, said he didn’t know Trammell, but he would frequently see him holding a sign calling for the election of Trump on one side and for the election of state Sen. Lena Taylor, a Democratic Black woman running for mayor, on the other.

https://apnews.com/23668668b3b59fa609a18d023c0bb485

If you read the full article, I think you'll conclude he held enigmatic political views, including support for Trump and liberals.

Let's hope the perpetrator is identified, prosecuted and imprisoned soon.

[Saratoga_Mike]

It sure seems to be heading this way...

over 51% of liberals polled recently thought nothing of having someone fired if it was found out they contributed $$ to Trump's campaign.



Are you referring to the Cato poll?

The question was:

Would you support or oppose firing a business executive from their job if it became known that they privately donated money to Republican Donald Trump’s reelection campaign for president?

50% of those who identified as "very liberal" supported such a firing.

The companion/converse question was:

Would you support or oppose firing a business executive from their
job if it became known that they privately donated money to Democrat Joe Biden’s campaign for president?

36% of those who identified as "very conservative" supported such a firing.

https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2020-07/Political%20Expression%20Survey_2020_B_0.pdf

If it was a different poll, please post it.

[PaceAdvantage]

Are you referring to the Cato poll?

The question was:

Would you support or oppose firing a business executive from their job if it became known that they privately donated money to Republican Donald Trump’s reelection campaign for president?

50% of those who identified as "very liberal" supported such a firing.

The companion/converse question was:

Would you support or oppose firing a business executive from their
job if it became known that they privately donated money to Democrat Joe Biden’s campaign for president?

36% of those who identified as "very conservative" supported such a firing.

https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2020-07/Political%20Expression%20Survey_2020_B_0.pdf

If it was a different poll, please post it.Oh, that's the exact poll.

I'm not sure why you seem to have a problem with what I posted?

You just 100% affirmed what I wrote. Thank you.

[PaceAdvantage]

Sorry, I inflated it by 1%...my bad

over 51% of liberals polled recently thought nothing of having someone fired if it was found out they contributed $$ to Trump's campaign.

So you 99% affirmed what I posted...thanks again.

[boxcar]

Sorry, I inflated it by 1%...my bad

Which goes to prove once again that libs favor and champion free speech only when it's their kind of speech. It appears very many libs have a big totalitarian streak running up their back.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Oh, that's the exact poll.

I'm not sure why you seem to have a problem with what I posted?

You just 100% affirmed what I wrote. Thank you.

I wanted to provide the data on the Biden question. Did that bother you? If you want be precise, the question was about a "business executive," not the more broad term "someone," you posted. Granted, business executives are "someone," but it's a distinction with a difference.

Were you aware of the Biden question before I posted it? What if we replaced Biden with a more polarizing Pelosi or AOC? Might we then approach parity in the answers (50/50ish)? If so, would you then go down the non-sequitur/odious path of Nazism comparability?

[Greyfox]

Which goes to prove once again that libs favor and champion free speech only when it's their kind of speech. It appears very many libs have a big totalitarian streak running up their back.

Exactly! :ThmbUp:
That "Totalitarian Disposition" was on display in their treatment of AG Barr the other day.
Every time they didn't like what he had to say, which was every time he spoke,
they were savages -"I reclaim my time."
Captain Bligh type cruelty surfaced when Nadler refused Barr a 5 minute washroom break.
(Barr has too much class to do what I thought like suggesting, which I'll leave to your imagination.)

[Saratoga_Mike]

Which goes to prove once again that libs favor and champion free speech only when it's their kind of speech. It appears very many libs have a big totalitarian streak running up their back.

Pace posts about a poll. I respond with the precise polling questions. Boxcar implies that I don't support free speech. By your logic, anytime I post something and you respond, you're suppressing my free speech. The uber-logical Boxcar on display, once again.

By the way, as the board owner has explained repeatedly, the First Amendment addresses governmental interference in free speech, not the speech on a horse-racing message board. There is no free speech here. The board owner is free to delete my posts, as he sees fit. He has not, but he could. If you owned the board, 1/5 says you would.

Next Boxcar step: twist and misrepresent what you posted previously, instead of just admitting you posted impulsively. I'm certainly not going to respond to you again on your tortured logic.

[Greyfox]

There is no free speech here.

"Poppycock."

We're all free to say anything we want here, as long as we stay within the T.O.S. Guidelines which allow for lots of latitude.
The rules are the same for all of us.

[Saratoga_Mike]

"Poppycock."

We're all free to say anything we want here, as long as we stay within the T.O.S. Guidelines which allow for lots of latitude.
The rules are the same for all of us.

"They (referencing social media) aren't the government, so freedom of speech doesn't apply to them (just like it doesn't apply here on this site)." -paceadvantage, June 2018

So not Poppycock, and as a legal matter, he is correct.

"The rules are the same for all of us." Did I say that the board owner did not afford board latitude to opposing views? I never said that. In fact, in the past, I've said just the opposite. I did strongly imply that Boxcar would quickly purge the board of opposing views, if he were the owner. I stand by that.

[Greyfox]

I did strongly imply that Boxcar would quickly purge the board of opposing views, if he were the owner. I stand by that.

Poppycock again.
Boxcar would not purge the board of opposing views. I stand by that.

If you don't have all of your ducks in a row in a logical coherent manner, then he'll ridicule your argument. But purge? No!

[PaceAdvantage]

I wanted to provide the data on the Biden question. Did that bother you? If you want be precise, the question was about a "business executive," not the more broad term "someone," you posted. Granted, business executives are "someone," but it's a distinction with a difference.

Were you aware of the Biden question before I posted it? What if we replaced Biden with a more polarizing Pelosi or AOC? Might we then approach parity in the answers (50/50ish)? If so, would you then go down the non-sequitur/odious path of Nazism comparability?The numbers on Biden are orders of magnitude LOWER than the response for Trump.

Also, I don't understand the "business executive" distinction. Was that put in there to try and elicit a higher response rate for the "fire them" choice because of the "hate the rich" thing? What difference does it make WHAT POSITION a person holds? Should ANYONE be fired for supporting the duly elected POTUS?

How insane has this country become, exactly?

[TJDave]

Should ANYONE be fired for supporting the duly elected POTUS?

What do you mean by supporting?

As an employer I would look unfavorably on employees expressing political opinions in the workplace, regardless if our views differed.

Politics and business don’t mix.

[PaceAdvantage]

What do you mean by supporting?

As an employer I would look unfavorably on employees expressing political opinions in the workplace, regardless if our views differed.

Politics and business don’t mix.We're discussing a poll that asked a very specific question. Thus, WHAT I MEAN, obviously, is in RELATION TO THAT QUESTION.

The question specifically asked:

Would you support or oppose firing a business executive from their job if it became known that they privately donated money to Republican Donald Trump’s reelection campaign for president?

The question never mentioned displaying one's political beliefs in the work place. Try and remain on topic.

[boxcar]

Pace posts about a poll. I respond with the precise polling questions. Boxcar implies that I don't support free speech. By your logic, anytime I post something and you respond, you're suppressing my free speech. The uber-logical Boxcar on display, once again.

Two things, "Einstein": I never implied anything about you personally. (Get a lube job on your overworked imagination, lest your machinery shuts down permanently due to overheating.) Secondly, suppressing free speech is when someone shuts down the speech of someone who holds an opposing viewpoint. (Greyfox provided an excellent example of same with Barr at the congressional hearing.) Free speech is not shut down by a give and take dialogue, as you have just implied! How does my response to any post of yours shut down your free speech!? :rolleyes:

By the way, as the board owner has explained repeatedly, the First Amendment addresses governmental interference in free speech, not the speech on a horse-racing message board. There is no free speech here. The board owner is free to delete my posts, as he sees fit. He has not, but he could. If you owned the board, 1/5 says you would.

Next Boxcar step: twist and misrepresent what you posted previously, instead of just admitting you posted impulsively. I'm certainly not going to respond to you again on your tortured logic.

Thank God for small favors. Just don't blame me for zip-locking your runaway mouth that seems to always run several laps ahead of your brain. :coffee:

[boxcar]

What do you mean by supporting?

As an employer I would look unfavorably on employees expressing political opinions in the workplace, regardless if our views differed.

Politics and business don’t mix.

Another one with a runaway mouth and a much slower and undisciplined mind. Talking about things that "don't mix'... :rolleyes:

[PaceAdvantage]

I wanted to provide the data on the Biden question. Did that bother you? If you want be precise, the question was about a "business executive," not the more broad term "someone," you posted. Granted, business executives are "someone," but it's a distinction with a difference.

Were you aware of the Biden question before I posted it? What if we replaced Biden with a more polarizing Pelosi or AOC? Might we then approach parity in the answers (50/50ish)? If so, would you then go down the non-sequitur/odious path of Nazism comparability?

https://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/510402-afraid-to-speak-your-mind-maybe-were-not-as-free-as-we-think

No, I’m not suggesting that the United States is like China or the old Soviet Union, where having an unpopular opinion might get you a train ride to a “re-education” camp or a jail cell in the gulag. But I am suggesting the obvious: People in a free country shouldn’t be afraid to say what’s on their minds.I would suggest the US is certainly inching closer to China or the old Soviet Union...

[ElKabong]

59 year old Bernell Trammell was shot dead in broad daylight sitting in a lawn chair outside his Milwaukee business on July 23 2020 for the sole reason of being a vociferous Donald Trump supporter.

His killer remains unknown and at large.

Where is BLM? where is Al Sharpton? One full week has passed, where is the outrage for this beloved community icons cold-blooded murder. Where is the coverage on MSDNC, CNN etc. (I found story on FOX affiliate.

It is crystal clear the BLM movement is a complete sham.
They care not about black deaths they are racists. IMO

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