Video Shows G.I.'s at Weapon Cache

[betchatoo]

From this mornings New York Times, there are videos of those stockpiles of weapons following our invasion of Iraq

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/politics/29bomb.html?th

[Equineer]

This whole flap boils down to stubborn insistence that Iraq has not been bungled.

Recent leaks and reports from intelligence officials and Pentagon sources indicate a backlash against Bush's oft-repeated assertion that he was unstinting about giving our professional planners what they asked for before the invasion.

It's no secret in Washington that Tommy Franks originally asked for a much larger commitment... some present officials feel betrayed that Franks retired into the Bush camp and will not confirm Bush discounted warnings that we were not prepared to occupy Iraq and restore order. However, at least Bush and Rumsfield no longer talk about being "joyfully greeted as liberators." Our Pentagon generals and intelligence officials do not want to be associated with such stupidity because Bush was fully warned... even from the lips of Pat Robertson who says Bush ignored God's common sense advice.

Not only did Bush start a war of choice for trumped up reasons... he rushed in naively like some pimpled ROTC undergraduate.

[ElKabong]

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15063

NOTE: The video crew admits
that they didn't go into bunkers with IAEA seals.
A 5 Eyewitness News crew in Iraq ""may have been"" just a door away from material that could be used to detonate nuclear weapons. The evidence is in videotape shot by Reporter Dean Staley and Photographer Joe Caffrey at or near the Al Qaqaa munitions facility


1. KERRY and NYT CLAIMS 380 TONS WERE MISSING

2. IAEA ADMITS ONLY 3 TONS LEFT

3. IAEA ADMITS THE BUNKERS WERE NOT CHECKED, JUST THE FRONT DOOR SEAL, AND THERE WERE SIDE ENTRANCES

4. SATELLITE CAPTURES IMAGE OF TRUCKS MOVING EXPLOSIVES BEFORE WAR

5. VIDEO SHOWS ONE OPEN BUNKER AND A FEW BARRELS AND SOME SEALS ON FRONT DOOR.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Conclusion this was a highly exaggerated, politically motivated story designed to smear our military and hurt President Bush

[kenwoodallpromos]

The fact is Kerry jumped the gun bigtime in accusing Buish of politicing with the story and assuming looters got the stuff.
Kerry says he will not make a move until proof is given to the world- but he bitches if Bush waits 7 minutes to get organized on 9/11, or if Bush wants to wait for the facts. This is typical of all Demos on TV, interrupting and jumping the gun talking without understanding.
As far as I know, any problems that has come up since Bush took office have been investigated without political leaning or coverups.
Kerry is an absent senator and absent minded.
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IMO HMX should have been destroyed by U.N.
Hussein broke seals at QaQaa to take 32 tons. Stuff had to be resealed.
IAEA did not count the stuff in March 2003.
There was 219 tons.
Al Qeida got RDX and HMX from somewhere by 2002 around when Al Qeida members were passing through Iraq.
U.S. military had organized groups properly removing stuff.
Some individual U.S. troops disobeyed orders and broke seals, going into areas they should not have and unsecuring the stuff.
At least some of the stuff was destroyed by U.S. troops.
The military is still investigating.
There will probably be more U.S. troops telliong what happened to the stuff.
The IAEA guy who waited until this week to release the story had a beef against Bush.
The U.N. has a beef against Bush.
Kerry has a beef against Bush.
CBS has a beef against Bush.

[JustRalph]

water under the bridge.......if you were stil undecided up until this week.....you are a fool...........

[kenwoodallpromos]

The chief American weapons inspector, Charles Duelfer, told The New York Sun yesterday that in 1995, when he was a member of the U.N. inspections team in Iraq, he urged the United Nations' atomic watchdog to remove tons of explosives that have since been declared missing.

Mr. Duelfer said he was rebuffed at the time by the Vienna-based agency because its officials were not convinced the presence of the HMX, RDX, and PETN explosives was directly related to Saddam Hussein's programs to amass weapons of mass destruction.

Instead of accepting recommendations to destroy the stocks, Mr. Duelfer said, the atomic-energy agency opted to continue to monitor them.

By e-mail, Mr. Duelfer wrote the Sun, "The policy was if acquired for the WMD program and used for it, it should be subject for destruction. The HMX was just that. Nevertheless the IAEA decided to let Iraq keep the stuff, like they needed more explosives
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Now compare to his Duelfer report- no wonder IAEA wanted to trash Bush- to cover up their own screw ups.

Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, October 7, 2004; Page A01

The 1991 Persian Gulf War and subsequent U.N. inspections destroyed Iraq's illicit weapons capability and, for the most part, Saddam Hussein did not try to rebuild it, according to an extensive report by the chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq that contradicts nearly every prewar assertion made by top administration officials about Iraq.

Charles A. Duelfer, whom the Bush administration chose to complete the U.S. investigation of Iraq's weapons programs, said Hussein's ability to produce nuclear weapons had "progressively decayed" since 1991. Inspectors, he said, found no evidence of "concerted efforts to restart the program

[Tom]

Why is everyone so enthroalled about 0.2% of the explosives missing - explosives EVERYONE OF THE BIG MOUTHED LIBS ON THIS BOARD HAVE PUBLICALLY POSTED THAT WERE NO REASON TO GO INTO IRAQ IN THE FIRST PLACE???????
If this drop in the bucket of Iraqs total weaponry is so damn important, then wasn't it a good idea to invade them in the first place????/ Meanwhile, the SPINNING LIBS totally ignore the 400,000 tons of other explosives that we have captured and secured or destroyed. Some lib explain this to me.

[Secretariat]

Originally posted by Tom
Why is everyone so enthroalled about 0.2% of the explosives missing - explosives EVERYONE OF THE BIG MOUTHED LIBS ON THIS BOARD HAVE PUBLICALLY POSTED THAT WERE NO REASON TO GO INTO IRAQ IN THE FIRST PLACE???????
If this drop in the bucket of Iraqs total weaponry is so damn important, then wasn't it a good idea to invade them in the first place????/ Meanwhile, the SPINNING LIBS totally ignore the 400,000 tons of other explosives that we have captured and secured or destroyed. Some lib explain this to me.

The answer is simple why.

1. We didn't have troops all over Iraq before the war, and the weapons were secured with UN inspections. Prior to the war the sanctions were working which had decimated Iraq's capability to build any type of reliable mid-east force.

2. They posed no "imminent" threat to the US, and there were no WMD stockpiles found.

3. The case was filled with distortions and lies.

I encourage you to read CIA agent Greg Thielman's account which aired on NOW tonight on the lead up to Iraq.

http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/roadtowar.html

Now it is important because our troops are vulnerable to these explosives as many are functioning as policemen.