Who Will Be?

[Track Collector]

Any guesses on which track will be the first to allow fans back in attendance?

To me it would logically be in a state which has fast-tracked their re-opening, so my guess is Gulfstream Park.

My hope is for a snowball effect, in that once someone is the first to make the decision, others will soon thereafter join them. Except for the very few big races, there is no reason to believe that fans who attend live racing can not exercise "good" judgement regarding social interactions with other fans.

When tracks finally do reopen to fan attendance, I hope that masks are optional rather than a mandatory pre-condition for entry.

[biggestal99]

Any guesses on which track will be the first to allow fans back in attendance?

To me it would logically be in a state which has fast-tracked their re-opening, so my guess is Gulfstream Park.

My hope is for a snowball effect, in that once someone is the first to make the decision, others will soon thereafter join them. Except for the very few big races, there is no reason to believe that fans who attend live racing can not exercise "good" judgement regarding social interactions with other fans.

When tracks finally do reopen to fan attendance, I hope that masks are optional rather than a mandatory pre-condition for entry.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for this to happen.

There is no going back to the old normal for the time being.

Allan

[cj]

Any guesses on which track will be the first to allow fans back in attendance?

To me it would logically be in a state which has fast-tracked their re-opening, so my guess is Gulfstream Park.

My hope is for a snowball effect, in that once someone is the first to make the decision, others will soon thereafter join them. Except for the very few big races, there is no reason to believe that fans who attend live racing can not exercise "good" judgement regarding social interactions with other fans.

When tracks finally do reopen to fan attendance, I hope that masks are optional rather than a mandatory pre-condition for entry.

I wouldn't be surprised if fans are allowed back at Remington when they open in August, but they probably won't be first.

[turfeyejoe]

From the way the announcer spoke on closing day at Will Rogers, fans were on track. He warned people after the last race to cash all tickets before leaving because the track would not be open any time soon.

[Clocker]

From the way the announcer spoke on closing day at Will Rogers, fans were on track. He warned people after the last race to cash all tickets before leaving because the track would not be open any time soon.


The charts for the last day there show attendance of 0 but an on-track handle for the day of about $9500. Sounds like the announcer was talking to the horse people who were there.

[Big Russ]

Derby Lane opened for fans yesterday, not that anyone could probably tell the difference. 😉

[lamboguy]

i heard Gulfstream will have people soon, maybe next week.

[Jeff P]

If not Gulfstream... then I'll go out on a limb and say Fair Meadows Tulsa.


-jp

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[cj]

From the way the announcer spoke on closing day at Will Rogers, fans were on track. He warned people after the last race to cash all tickets before leaving because the track would not be open any time soon.

There were no fans present, any on track betting came from those working.

[Clocker]

Any guesses on which track will be the first to allow fans back in attendance?

To me it would logically be in a state which has fast-tracked their re-opening, so my guess is Gulfstream Park.


My impression is that FL and TX are at the forefront in reopening businesses, not just racing. CA and NY are at the tail end.

[Al Gobbi]

Palm Beach Kennel Club is re-opening to the public tomorrow (May 22nd)

https://pbkennelclub.com/press-release-reopening/

[Tom]

The charts for the last day there show attendance of 0 but an on-track handle for the day of about $9500. Sounds like the announcer was talking to the horse people who were there.

OR.....the announcer bets real heavily! :eek:

[Suff]

Derby Lane opened for fans yesterday, not that anyone could probably tell the difference. ��

I was there in March of this year. Saturday night after the Tampa Bay Derby. I used to go to Wonderland Park greyhound, I enjoyed Derby Lane. Its pretty. Mostly Poker players it seemed.



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[classhandicapper]

Palm Beach Kennel Club is re-opening to the public tomorrow (May 22nd)

https://pbkennelclub.com/press-release-reopening/

I wish dog racing wasn't going away.

I have such fond memories of the dog tracks in Florida.

[classhandicapper]

It would never happen, but if they fully opened the grandstand at Belmont it was be easier to socially distance than a walk in my suburban neighborhood.

[Suff]

:6:Palm Beach Kennel Club is re-opening to the public tomorrow (May 22nd)

https://pbkennelclub.com/press-release-reopening/

Nice. I’ve played there a bunch. The clubhouse might qualify as the one the best OTB’s on the east coast.

Clean, Cloth tablecloths, waiters in tuxedo shirts, real silverware..never crowded, food good.

[Clocker]

OR.....the announcer bets real heavily! :eek:
And talks to himself.

[MONEY]

Lone Star Park will have live racing tomorrow. May 22nd.

What ever the (Bar And Book) is at Lone Star Park will be open to track patrons for food and gambling.

https://www.lonestarpark.com/reopening/

[Suff]

And talks to himself.

:D

[Tom]

:D

:D:D

We have a greyhound rescue around here someplace - you see lots of them walking down by the lake. Last year, I was parked there, reading the Form and noticed one walk by, then another, then another, then, I put down the paper and looked around. There must have been 20-25 of them there! Apparently, they have "get togethers" among the owners.

Beautiful dogs - all them well behaved! :ThmbUp:

[TMQ]

Any guesses on which track will be the first to allow fans back in attendance?

To me it would logically be in a state which has fast-tracked their re-opening, so my guess is Gulfstream Park.

My hope is for a snowball effect, in that once someone is the first to make the decision, others will soon thereafter join them. Except for the very few big races, there is no reason to believe that fans who attend live racing can not exercise "good" judgement regarding social interactions with other fans.

When tracks finally do reopen to fan attendance, I hope that masks are optional rather than a mandatory pre-condition for entry.

Does wearing a mask really bother you that much? As for the first track to open what if any tracks are on tribal land?

[Track Collector]

Does wearing a mask really bother you that much? As for the first track to open what if any tracks are on tribal land?

I will wear one if I have to, but in general it steams up my glasses and I don't particularly like breathing thru it. Maybe one of the better-grade masks would help.

Interesting you should mention tracks on tribal land. I had heard about this place before, but early today I was doing some more research on Crow Agency.

An except from an article:

The 102nd Annual Crow Fair Celebration Powwow & Rodeo will be at Crow Agency on August 14-17, 2020 at Crow Agency, Montana, includes parades, a four-day powwow, a rodeo and horse races. The Crow Fair Celebration is the largest Native American event in Montana, and one of the biggest powwows in the country. Held each year in Crow Agency, Montana by The Apsáalooke people of the Crow Indian Reservation just South of Hardin, Montana. Also known as the “Tipi Capital of the world”, Crow Fair begins on the third Thursday in August and attracts more than 50,000 spectators and participants from the around the world.

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I know the races are "unsanctioned", but I do not know if there is any kind of wagering. Me thinks there probably is, especially given the typical Fair crowd sizes.

This place has been on my visit list radar for a number of years. Since this may be my only chance to get in a new track visit this summer, I've sent them an e-mail to see if I can learn what their current situation is. Given that they have done this for more than 100 years, normally have big attendance, and are on a 2.2 million acre Indian Reservation, they may be sovereign enough to do their own thing without Government intervention.

[Track Collector]

If not Gulfstream... then I'll go out on a limb and say Fair Meadows Tulsa.


-jp

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Hi Jeff,

They may now be the favorite.

The OK Horseracing Commission supposedly met today but I don't know of any of the decisions made yet. Accordingly to the Agenda, FMT want to modify their racing schedule to open 06/05. What I find interesting is the Fair Meadows Simulcast and Grill (on the Expo site) supposedly opened 05/08. I know that live attendance is significantly higher than what a simulcast crowd would be, but if true, FMT may be the first US horseracing track to welcome fans back.

Edit: Also found out the Commission meet was to be held at the Fair Meadows Simulcast and Grill.

[cj]

I think I win. Remington has already been allowing fans since May 21st. :)

[thaskalos]

I think I win. Remington has already been allowing fans since May 21st. :)

How can you tell? :)

[cj]

How can you tell? :)

Remington actually gets plenty of fans in attendance, especially on weekends.

[MONEY]

On Wednesday June 3rd, Sam Houston Race Park will open for simulcasting.

[Afleet]

I was there in March of this year. Saturday night after the Tampa Bay Derby. I used to go to Wonderland Park greyhound, I enjoyed Derby Lane. Its pretty. Mostly Poker players it seemed.



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use to love dog racing-its very fast and you don't get bored

[Afleet]

It would never happen, but if they fully opened the grandstand at Belmont it was be easier to socially distance than a walk in my suburban neighborhood.

:D

Ive only been there once, a long time ago, but remember it being huge and you could hardly see the horses on the inner turf course from the stands

[Track Collector]

Word has it that an announcement is going to be made on 06/01, and that fans will be allowed in when Fair Meadows Tulsa begins their meet on 06/05. . :jump:

In a separate note from a Bloodhorse article, Gulfstream Park is now going to allow owners to attend and watch from a specific area.

[Track Collector]

Fair Meadows Tulsa begins their race meet tonight at 6 p.m. and fans will be allowed in attendance! A graphic "recommends" the following:

--- Wash hands with soap
--- Social distancing
--- Avoid handshakes
--- Stay home if sick
--- Wear a mask
--- Use Sanitizer

I did not see any specific mention of limiting attendance to a percentage of full capacity.

(BTW CJ was correct in that Remington Park started to allow general fans in for their QH meet on 05/21, which means they are planning on allowing general fan attendance when their thoroughbred meet begins in Aug/2020.).

Now it remains who of the "major league" tracks who be the first to re-open to general racing fans. I can't see NY , CA, or KY, so it will probably be Gulfstream Park in FL.

[Scanman]

Per the following, LAD will allow spectators when they start their TB meet tomorrow: https://bossierpress.com/harrahs-la-downs-to-open-live-horse-racing-to-spectators/ .

[Scanman]

Looks like CBY will allow a limited number of spectators when they open next Wednesday: https://www.startribune.com/longshot-pays-off-decision-to-allow-some-bettors-at-canterbury-a-complete-shock/571062602/ .

[Track Collector]

Thanks for the updates Tom. Good news for sure.

Maybe there is SOME hope for the Carlton County Fair in Barnum!

If that happens, I may consider a LONG driving trip for them, Cby, and Running Aces in mid-August.

[cj]

Fair Meadows Tulsa begins their race meet tonight at 6 p.m. and fans will be allowed in attendance! A graphic "recommends" the following:

--- Wash hands with soap
--- Social distancing
--- Avoid handshakes
--- Stay home if sick
--- Wear a mask
--- Use Sanitizer

I did not see any specific mention of limiting attendance to a percentage of full capacity.

(BTW CJ was correct in that Remington Park started to allow general fans in for their QH meet on 05/21, which means they are planning on allowing general fan attendance when their thoroughbred meet begins in Aug/2020.).

Now it remains who of the "major league" tracks who be the first to re-open to general racing fans. I can't see NY , CA, or KY, so it will probably be Gulfstream Park in FL.

Fair Meadows is going away from split cards. For this year at least, Monday and Tuesday will be thoroughbred days and Friday and Saturday quarter horses.

[Scanman]

Thanks for the updates Tom. Good news for sure.

Maybe there is SOME hope for the Carlton County Fair in Barnum!

If that happens, I may consider a LONG driving trip for them, Cby, and Running Aces in mid-August.If so, I'll see you there!!!

[Track Collector]

Fair Meadows is going away from split cards. For this year at least, Monday and Tuesday will be thoroughbred days and Friday and Saturday quarter horses.

I knew this, but what is really nice to see is the number of races each day, and even more so, the field sizes.

Both tonight and tomorrow have 12 races each night. Pre-scratches, one race has 5 entries, 6 have 6 entries, and 13 have a full field of 10! Definitely not typical for FMT as in the past. I did not look at the specific entries yet, but I would guess that more horses are available from nearby Nebraska with Horseman's Park Omaha and Columbus not running their meets. I would suspect it is too far to ship from Iowa with PrM not running yet, but those horses would probably go over to Cby.

It will be interesting to see if the situation continues in the future weeks, or is just from the excitement of opening nights for Thoroughbreds.

I'll be watching FMT on RTN tonight and tomorrow and playing some races. :)

[therussmeister]

Looks like CBY will allow a limited number of spectators when they open next Wednesday: https://www.startribune.com/longshot-pays-off-decision-to-allow-some-bettors-at-canterbury-a-complete-shock/571062602/ .

It looks like they are now open for live racing, Simulcasting, and poker.

https://www.canterburypark.com/racing-promotions/health-safety-update/

[Track Collector]

It looks like they are now open for live racing, Simulcasting, and poker.

https://www.canterburypark.com/racing-promotions/health-safety-update/

Good news for racing fans, so thanks for sharing.

Just so live poker room players don't get excited, let it be known that Canterbury Park does NOT have a poker room where players compete against each other. What they do have is a table game called Ultimate Texas Holdem. Players play only against the dealer, and as expected, the rules are structured in such a way to guarantee the house a "small", winning edge.

As of this moment, I am aware that some Texas Holdem card rooms are open in FL, OK, CA, and NV, according to the BRAVO system.

Also as an aside, Cby did have a few $5 minimum blackjack tables when I visited there not too long ago.

[tbwinner]

Looking forward to PRM opening next week! Looks like spectators will be allowed.

[therussmeister]

Good news for racing fans, so thanks for sharing.

Just so live poker room players don't get excited, let it be known that Canterbury Park does NOT have a poker room where players compete against each other. What they do have is a table game called Ultimate Texas Holdem. Players play only against the dealer, and as expected, the rules are structured in such a way to guarantee the house a "small", winning edge.

As of this moment, I am aware that some Texas Holdem card rooms are open in FL, OK, CA, and NV, according to the BRAVO system.

Also as an aside, Cby did have a few $5 minimum blackjack tables when I visited there not too long ago.

Canterbury does have traditional poker too. So live poker players CAN get excited. For the record you need a reservation to attend live racing, Simulcasting, or poker, so Canterbury can control the crowd size to comply with current regulations.

[Track Collector]

Canterbury does have traditional poker too. So live poker players CAN get excited. For the record you need a reservation to attend live racing, Simulcasting, or poker, so Canterbury can control the crowd size to comply with current regulations.

Sorry for the misinformation and thanks for the correction! I am a bit surprised though that they still offer Ultimate Texas holdem as a table game, as the places where I saw that before did it because they were not allowed to have a poker room. I also went back to specifically look for Cby on the BRAVO system, and sure enough, they are there.

Tentative track collecting activities have me going to MN in 2021 or 2022, so it is good to know that in addition to playing Texas Holdem at Running Aces, I can now do it at Canterbury as well. :jump:

[Track Collector]

Add Delaware Park to the list of tracks that will allow spectators when their season begins on 06/17.

[Track Collector]

Charles Town is tentatively planning to allow attendance to their live races beginning 06/22.