Del Mar meet is set to open July 18, 2020

[NTamm1215]

Saratoga gets too much attention around here. Let's talk Del Mar.

The fair has already been cancelled. The governor of CA has gone on record saying he doesn't think there will be live attendance at football games in September in his state. Del Mar is HEAVILY reliant on on-track business both in terms of handle as well as non-wagering revenue. Is it even feasible for them to run without fans?

[HorsemenHeist]

They really should run Del Mar without fans if its possible. If summer racing was relocated to Santa Anita, there would be so many oppressive days with temps hovering around 100.

While Del Mar is indeed heavily reliant on the $20 margaritas to come out ahead, perhaps with less competition, bigger handle can help make up for it. At least a casino isn't needed to be open in order for Del Mar to operate.

I also think there is a lot more community support for racing at Del Mar than there is at Santa Anita, and that will surely factor into a decision to race.

[lamboguy]

Saratoga gets too much attention around here. Let's talk Del Mar.

The fair has already been cancelled. The governor of CA has gone on record saying he doesn't think there will be live attendance at football games in September in his state. Del Mar is HEAVILY reliant on on-track business both in terms of handle as well as non-wagering revenue. Is it even feasible for them to run without fans?in todays world without sports gambling and people staying in their homes, tracks like Del Mar or even Saratoga at Belmont will out do prior handles without a live crowd. non handle revenues will be missing from this equation though.

[dilanesp]

The issues are: (1) San Diego County has to approve it (that's what's holding up SA and GG right now), and (2) the Governor has to allow what would be a massive movement of people from LA to San Diego County.

I could see both these questions going either way. Obviously Del Mar is lobbying hard to open.

[pic6vic]

How much does DEL MAR receive from ADW wagering. The extra handle helps minimal. The adw's get the bulk of the revenues. Do I have the facts correctly stated?

[AndyC]

The issues are: (1) San Diego County has to approve it (that's what's holding up SA and GG right now), and (2) the Governor has to allow what would be a massive movement of people from LA to San Diego County.

I could see both these questions going either way. Obviously Del Mar is lobbying hard to open.

What number do you consider a "massive movement of people"?

[dilanesp]

How much does DEL MAR receive from ADW wagering. The extra handle helps minimal. The adw's get the bulk of the revenues. Do I have the facts correctly stated?

Del Mar is lobbying to open, so they must feel they can make the economics work, at least over the long term.

[dilanesp]

What number do you consider a "massive movement of people"?

Everyone associated with horse racing who will have to relocate from LA County to San Diego County. That's probably over 500 people who live on track, plus hundreds of horsemen and racing officials.

[westernmassbob]

As of right now most schools and colleges plan on reopening in August and September. How anyone can believe that there will be zero spectator participation in anything by August is strange. Thirty days from now opinions will dramatically change.

[AndyC]

Everyone associated with horse racing who will have to relocate from LA County to San Diego County. That's probably over 500 people who live on track, plus hundreds of horsemen and racing officials.

So you don't know? Even if it were 1,000 people it should hardly be a concern or a problem.

Decisions made about Del Mar will be based on which way the political winds are blowing. Fear is so prevalent that rational decisions made based on safety might be political suicide for the decision makers.

[dilanesp]

As of right now most schools and colleges plan on reopening in August and September. How anyone can believe that there will be zero spectator participation in anything by August is strange. Thirty days from now opinions will dramatically change.

I have some insider knowledge of this particular decision. While announcements have not yet been made, decisions have. Schools are highly likely to remain closed in the fall, especially in the cities in California.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Saratoga thread closed, so....

NYRA plans to move forward with Spa meet....

https://wnyt.com/saratoga-county-ny-news/nyra-moves-forward-with-plans-for-40-day-saratoga-racing-meet/5711773/?utm_campaign=thumbnails&utm_medium=onsite&utm_source=zetaglobal

[classhandicapper]

in todays world without sports gambling and people staying in their homes, tracks like Del Mar or even Saratoga at Belmont will out do prior handles without a live crowd. non handle revenues will be missing from this equation though.

You are obviously a very sharp guy and from your other comments I know you follow what's going on in the economy too. I understand the upside of not having to compete with other tracks and other sports gambling. But millions of people are now unemployed, have reduced hours, or are feeling vulnerable at their jobs. That is almost certainly going to be a drag on handle. I'm not sure anyone knows what the net of all this will be, but during the 2008 recession the handle dropped sharply.

Setting aside the nightmare that got us into this mess, we are probably going to learn a few things about how reducing tracks would impact handle per track and how other sports gambling impacts racing.

[classhandicapper]

Saratoga thread closed, so....

NYRA plans to move forward with Spa meet....

https://wnyt.com/saratoga-county-ny-news/nyra-moves-forward-with-plans-for-40-day-saratoga-racing-meet/5711773/?utm_campaign=thumbnails&utm_medium=onsite&utm_source=zetaglobal

The good news is that July is still a long way off. The environment in terms of new virus cases could look a LOT different (better) by then if some of the projections are correct.

Still, unless it gets to the point where things are good enough for fans and tourism so the local economy can salvage something from the year, I'm not sure I see the net upside other than the hope that fanless Saratoga would handle a lot more than fanless "Saratoga at Belmont", which I find somewhat suspect.

[dilanesp]

Saratoga thread closed, so....

NYRA plans to move forward with Spa meet....

https://wnyt.com/saratoga-county-ny-news/nyra-moves-forward-with-plans-for-40-day-saratoga-racing-meet/5711773/?utm_campaign=thumbnails&utm_medium=onsite&utm_source=zetaglobal

I feel really bad when I read these stories in upstate NY media. The authors are clearly big homers, hoping beyond hope that this thing they live for every year in their remote region will still happen, and looking for every tea leaf they can attach to.

NYRA has to have contingency plans for anything, but the reality is as of now NYRA can't even stage a maiden claiming race without fans at Belmont. They are WAY away from any actual decision to run big races at Saratoga, no matter what the local boosters in upstate NY media say.

[Saratoga_Mike]

I feel really bad when I read these stories in upstate NY media. The authors are clearly big homers, hoping beyond hope that this thing they live for every year in their remote region will still happen, and looking for every tea leaf they can attach to.

NYRA has to have contingency plans for anything, but the reality is as of now NYRA can't even stage a maiden claiming race without fans at Belmont. They are WAY away from any actual decision to run big races at Saratoga, no matter what the local boosters in upstate NY media say.

Can you state your opinion without condescension?

[NTamm1215]

This thread is not about Saratoga. It’s about Del Mar.

Why seemingly everyone from coast to coast is obsessed with Saratoga and NYRA is beyond me. Start a new thread about Saratoga.

I want everyone’s opinion on how a grassroots effort led by horsemen in LA county has been completely ignored, keeping Santa Anita from opening. What does that do for Del Mar? Are they supposed to be hopeful they exist in a racing-friendly county like Los Al does? Can an entire state’s industry be held up like that with no recourse?

I’d ask the person with the most knowledge on NY racing to weigh in, considering he lives in CA.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Sorry - the Saratoga thread was shutdown. I didn't want to start a new one, same topic, but you're right.

[RunForTheRoses]

I have some insider knowledge of this particular decision. While announcements have not yet been made, decisions have. Schools are highly likely to remain closed in the fall, especially in the cities in California.

If the decision has been made why do you qualify as highly likely? Wouldn't it be a done deal if the decision has been made?

[dilanesp]

If the decision has been made why do you qualify as highly likely? Wouldn't it be a done deal if the decision has been made?

There are reasons why some options are kept officially open. Some conferences that everyone knows will be cancelled are still officially on. There are lots of flights scheduled in the late Spring that the airlines know they will cancel.

The information I have is that some major education decisionmakers in California have already decided to keep schools closed in the fall. But the announcement won't come until later on.

That DOES mean that there is a slight, theoretical chance that the decision will reversed. But nobody thinks that will happen.

[dilanesp]

Can you state your opinion without condescension?

The stories coming out of upstate NY local media have a pathetic tone. The media is in total denial up there. That's not my doing.

[Saratoga_Mike]

The stories coming out of upstate NY local media have a pathetic tone. The media is in total denial up there. That's not my doing.

Please read the WNYT article, then you'll realize it isn't full of rah-rah.

[PaceAdvantage]

I have some insider knowledge of this particular decision. While announcements have not yet been made, decisions have. Schools are highly likely to remain closed in the fall, especially in the cities in California.Absolutely ridiculous.

[classhandicapper]

Does anyone know when a final decision has to made on whether Del Mar can run and whether it will be with or without fans?

We all know the models being used to project the virus are dependent on what governments do, how people respond, and a lot of subjective assumptions that often turn out to be wrong, but mid July is a long way away.

Here are the projections for CA.

This model is essentially saying that by early July CA will be done with new cases of the virus. In fact, it's saying things will great by the end of May. If that's even close to accurate. Del Mar will be probably running in July and may even be allowed to have fans.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/california


The same is true of NY and Saratoga.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/new-york

Again, these models could be way off. Also, changes in policy to loosen things up and balance economics vs the virus could push these dates out further by exposing more people in May and June, but if they are even close to right we are not that far away from some good news in May.

[dilanesp]

Absolutely ridiculous.

Not at all. We are going to be distancing here for a LONG time. That's true even if we partially "re-open".

Get used to distance learning, at least in California.

[dilanesp]

Does anyone know when a final decision has to made on whether Del Mar can run and whether it will be with or without fans?

We all know the models being used to project the virus are dependent on what governments do, how people respond, and a lot of subjective assumptions that often turn out to be wrong, but mid July is a long way away.

Here are the projections for CA.

This model is essentially saying that by early July CA will be done with new cases of the virus. In fact, it's saying things will great by the end of May. If that's even close to accurate. Del Mar will be probably running in July and may even be allowed to have fans.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/california


The same is true of NY and Saratoga.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/new-york

Again, these models could be way off. Also, changes in policy to loosen things up and balance economics vs the virus could push these dates out further by exposing more people in May and June, but if they are even close to right we are not that far away from some good news in May.

Del Mar running is completely at the discretion of the San Diego County health department. If they authorize it, Del Mar can run.

Del Mar running with spectators isn't happening, as we will still be distancing, but it would be the same health department plus Gavin Newsom who would have to sign off on that.

[Saratoga_Mike]

Not at all. We are going to be distancing here for a LONG time. That's true even if we partially "re-open".

Get used to distance learning, at least in California.

I'm not sure how you define a "long time," but eventually a vaccine(s) will hit the market. I assume you agree?

[AndyC]

I'm not sure how you define a "long time," but eventually a vaccine(s) will hit the market. I assume you agree?

That would be great but it would be the first coronavirus vaccine ever. The last time there was a big push for a vaccine was during the AIDS crisis. Still waiting. The good news is that the smartest scientists in the world are all trying to make this happen sooner than later.

[Saratoga_Mike]

That would be great but it would be the first coronavirus vaccine ever. The last time there was a big push for a vaccine was during the AIDS crisis. Still waiting. The good news is that the smartest scientists in the world are all trying to make this happen sooner than later.

That isn't actually true -- check out this article (can't believe it hasn't received more press)….

"Scientists around the world are competing to develop a vaccine to stop the coronavirus, and in this race, a laboratory at Oxford University has a big head start.

...scientists at Oxford’s Jenner Institute had already proved in previous trials that similar inoculations — including one last year against another coronavirus — were harmless to humans.

That has enabled them to leap ahead to the next step and schedule tests involving more than 6,000 people by the end of next month.

the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/world/coronavirus-world-pandemic.html#link-2efc59ae

[AndyC]

That isn't actually true -- check out this article (can't believe it hasn't received more press)….

"Scientists around the world are competing to develop a vaccine to stop the coronavirus, and in this race, a laboratory at Oxford University has a big head start.

...scientists at Oxford’s Jenner Institute had already proved in previous trials that similar inoculations — including one last year against another coronavirus — were harmless to humans.

That has enabled them to leap ahead to the next step and schedule tests involving more than 6,000 people by the end of next month.

the first few million doses of their vaccine could be available by September."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/world/coronavirus-world-pandemic.html#link-2efc59ae

I think there is a difference in being effective and being harmless to humans. Both are obviously necessary. I should have stated that an effective coronavirus vaccine has never been developed.

[Saratoga_Mike]

It sounds like the Montana lab was practically drowning (in the air) the rhesus macaque monkeys in virus exposure, and they all stayed healthy (small sample size). I believe those type monkeys are used b/c the similarity in their gene makeup and immune systems relative to humans. Give the TV media a day or two, and this study will get a lot of air time, I suspect.

[classhandicapper]

That would be great but it would be the first coronavirus vaccine ever. The last time there was a big push for a vaccine was during the AIDS crisis. Still waiting. The good news is that the smartest scientists in the world are all trying to make this happen sooner than later.

My uninformed guess would be that better treatments are available before a vaccine and then the risk of catching it and having severe complications or dying will be reduced enough that attitudes will change.

[hopbet]

ALCON:
IMO, if both tracks open in July they will be WITHOUT the attendance of the general public. The ability of a racetrack to maintain "social distancing" is NOT feasible , the normal course of business from standing in line to wager, concession stands even using the rest room are FACTORS that will cause local,state and other health officials to recommend racing without the general public. The governor of New York CUOMO has stated "New York will open in phases , with at LEAST 14 days between each phase". The widely recognized incubation period of coronavirus is 14 days. Saratoga opening in July (since we all are offering our opinion/guess) , based on CUOMO plan , my guess/opinion is NO. I do not have an guess/opinion on Del Mar, however even if I'm WRONG on Saratoga both (Saratoga and Del Mar) will run without the general public

HOPBET

[Tom]

What number do you consider a "massive movement of people"?

Anyone who agrees with him! :lol:

[Ocala Mike]

Unconfirmed report - Santa Anita will be opening for racing soon, as their petition was approved. Can anyone confirm?

[Spalding No!]

Unconfirmed report - Santa Anita will be opening for racing soon, as their petition was approved. Can anyone confirm?
Not sure if Santa Anita's particular petition was approved (or even directly considered) at today's board meeting. What was approved was a plan for economic recovery in LA county. It appears that some people are jumping to the conclusion that Santa Anita will be one of the first places in line to reopen. Not sure that's the case, but positive news nevertheless.

[dilanesp]

My uninformed guess would be that better treatments are available before a vaccine and then the risk of catching it and having severe complications or dying will be reduced enough that attitudes will change.

This is right. If something comes a long that significantly reduces the death rate, social distancing will become unnecessary. Until then, it is.

[classhandicapper]

This is right. If something comes a long that significantly reduces the death rate, social distancing will become unnecessary. Until then, it is.

There were some good results announced from Gilead on their trials for a drug that I believe treats late stage very serious cases.

I listened to an interview with Mike Milken yesterday (the junk bond guy). He's doing a ton of work tracking all the investment going into treatments and vaccines and how much promise they are all showing. He was very optimistic that some good treatments are on the horizon and not nearly as far off as people think.

[Ocala Mike]

class, did he say anything about vaccine maker, Novavax?

[dilanesp]

There were some good results announced from Gilead on their trials for a drug that I believe treats late stage very serious cases.

I listened to an interview with Mike Milken yesterday (the junk bond guy). He's doing a ton of work tracking all the investment going into treatments and vaccines and how much promise they are all showing. He was very optimistic that some good treatments are on the horizon and not nearly as far off as people think.

Dr. Fauci anounced some good news on the treatment front this morning.

If you want to be an optimist about getting back to some semblance of normal, this is where you want to focus your attention.

[NTamm1215]

class, did he say anything about vaccine maker, Novavax?

He didn’t in the address this morning, where he focused on Remdesivir. The danger of buying into Remdesivir too much is that the trial did not include a placebo and the main effect was shortening the lengthiest hospital stays. So, it was looked at as effective in treating the patients with the most dire condition.

If there was some amount of confidence that a treatment plan could keep people from dying while stronger antibody tests are developed and implemented that continue to show a lower mortality rate then we’ll be OK for things in the fall IMO.

On this topic, it’s a HUGE long shot that Dmr or Sar runs with fans present.

[TMQ]

Unconfirmed report - Santa Anita will be opening for racing soon, as their petition was approved. Can anyone confirm?

The condition book comes out the 30th for Santa Anita. Track plans on opening for live racing on the 15th, without fans of course.

[Andy Asaro]

Santa Anita making plans for May 15, still needs county approval

https://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-making-plans-may-15-still-needs-county-approval

[dilanesp]

Santa Anita making plans for May 15, still needs county approval

https://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-making-plans-may-15-still-needs-county-approval

The fact that county officials are taking so long is probably an indicator that they don't buy the industry's basic argument, i.e., that there's some special reason having to do with the industry's employment of thousands of people and its care for horses, that justifies reopening before other businesses can reopen.

Instead, they are not treating this with any urgency. They are basically judging racing as no different than any other business arguing its status as an "essential" business.

The worst case scenario is even worse than that, by the way- that basically the officials don't really buy horse racing's social distancing arguments and won't reopen the track until they start reopening restaurants and other businesses.

As of now, the county officials are saying very little publicly. Obviously, we don't know what the racetrack officials are really hearing behind closed doors. But at the very least, this has been slow-walked. Santa Anita had its protocols written a couple of weeks ago. We would have seen a reopening announcement by now from the county if it was just a matter of getting the protocol right.

(One other thing. The horse racing media is paying too much attention to the Board of Supervisors, and how they are being lobbied and protested. Yes, ultimately, they could overrule the county health officials. In theory. In practice, Kathryn Barger wants to remain an elected official, and that means she's risk averse. If she overrules her health officials and guesses wrong, it's a career ender. If she sticks with their advice, whatever it is, she can say she did her job and relied on the best advice.

Santa Anita has to convince the County health department. Insiders may not like that because it probably has a more skeptical attitude about racing than the Board of Supes does, but at the end of the day there isn't going to be an opening of the track over the objection of the health department.)

[classhandicapper]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand the incremental risk of opening a track without fans UNLESS horses, trainers, and backstretch workers are shipping in.

The trainers and backstretch workers taking care of the horses at SA are already there and the number of people required beyond that to run the races is apparently a small number that can be equipped with masks and generally socially distance.

The question becomes how many horses and horse related workers will be shipping in and can they be tested in a quick enough turnaround.

But if you can run a limited schedule with the horses already on the grounds there's virtually no incremental risk above what's already occurring just taking care of the horses and training them.

What am I missing?

[AndyC]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand the incremental risk of opening a track without fans UNLESS horses, trainers, and backstretch workers are shipping in.

The trainers and backstretch workers taking care of the horses at SA are already there and the number of people required beyond that to run the races is apparently a small number that can be equipped with masks and generally socially distance.

The question becomes how many horses and horse related workers will be shipping in and can they be tested in a quick enough turnaround.

But if you can run a limited schedule with the horses already on the grounds there's virtually no incremental risk above what's already occurring just taking care of the horses and training them.

What am I missing?

Even with horses, trainers, and backstretch workers shipping in it shouldn't be a problem. Test them to see if they have a current infection and test them for antibodies. Any decisions made will be political and not based on safety or science.

[dilanesp]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't understand the incremental risk of opening a track without fans UNLESS horses, trainers, and backstretch workers are shipping in.

The trainers and backstretch workers taking care of the horses at SA are already there and the number of people required beyond that to run the races is apparently a small number that can be equipped with masks and generally socially distance.

The question becomes how many horses and horse related workers will be shipping in and can they be tested in a quick enough turnaround.

But if you can run a limited schedule with the horses already on the grounds there's virtually no incremental risk above what's already occurring just taking care of the horses and training them.

What am I missing?

There are a couple of arguments that have been made publicly. (I will reiterate, I have no idea why they are slow-walking Santa Anita's application. Any number of things might be going on internally to the health department, including policy choices.)

1. Even with all the protocols (and the protocols are great IMO!), there's still some risk of transmission at the track. There are still people coming into the ecosystem from the outside, who may transmit the virus. There are still situations where people have to come within 6 feet of each other as part of the operation of the track. The horses themselves provide surfaces where the virus can be transmitted.

Personally, I don't buy this argument at all. But it's out there.

2. There's a modeling issue. And this argument has a LOT to do with why X business that you might want to be open is closed.

Basically once the government gets into the exception business, the granting of exceptions breeds public and interested party demand for more exceptions. "You allowed those guys to do something, why can't we?"

And public health officials who are trying to stop the spread of the virus don't want to deal with a lot of special interest pleading on exceptions.

There was an incident in Vermont and Michigan that might clue you in somewhat on the thinking here. In both those states, Walmarts were prohibited from selling general merchandise, only groceries and drugs. Why would the government do that? After all, it isn't as though once the Walmart is open, there's any additional danger from selling other merch.

But the reason they imposed that restriction is because other competitors of Walmart who don't sell groceries were declared "non-essential" and required to be closed. So they didn't want to hear a bunch of special pleading from those stores about what Walmart was doing.

That's the mentality with this.

[cj]

Even with horses, trainers, and backstretch workers shipping in it shouldn't be a problem. Test them to see if they have a current infection and test them for antibodies. Any decisions made will be political and not based on safety or science.

Bingo!

[Andy Asaro]

They made the announcement to force the public officials to point out which protocols are insufficient. They won't be able to. It's a smart move and it help set up a legal argument should they shut them down. Was on with Mike Willman on Thoroughbred LA last Saturday hour two to discuss this very thing.

[AndyC]

......

2. There's a modeling issue. And this argument has a LOT to do with why X business that you might want to be open is closed.

Basically once the government gets into the exception business, the granting of exceptions breeds public and interested party demand for more exceptions. "You allowed those guys to do something, why can't we?"......

Absolutely agree, however the government is already in the exception business.

[dilanesp]

They won't be able to. It's a smart move and it help set up a legal argument should they shut them down.

Let's get out of fantasyland here:

1. The power of the County health department to shut down businesses in a pandemic is plenary. It doesn't matter how Santa Anita "sets up" its arguments. The County has a rational basis for its actions, and that's the ballgame. There's not going to be any litigation, and if there is litigation, Santa Anita will very quickly lose.

2. Even if Santa Anita somehow were able to establish a right to run races, people are forgetting a kind of important matter: Santa Anita holds a government charter to accept wagers. THAT exists solely based on the permission of the government.

That puts Santa Anita in an even weaker legal position than even some average business challenging a shutdown order. One of the conditions on Santa Anita's right to accept wagers is compliance with all local health and safety regulations. If they aren't in compliance and open anyway, they can't accept any bets.

[classhandicapper]

Even with horses, trainers, and backstretch workers shipping in it shouldn't be a problem. Test them to see if they have a current infection and test them for antibodies. Any decisions made will be political and not based on safety or science.

I mentioned testing the shippers, but turnaround time might be an issue.

Let's a few people want to ship from NY to run a stake and show up with 3 horses and handful of people. How do you test them and know if you can let them on track fast enough for that to be viable?

You can test them and wait a few days for the results, but what do you do with the horses and people while you are waiting a few days?

I've heard there are some quick turnaround tests out there. So maybe that's an option, but they'd have to have that technology.

[AndyC]

I mentioned testing the shippers, but turnaround time might be an issue.

Let's a few people want to ship from NY to run a stake and show up with 3 horses and handful of people. How do you test them and know if you can let them on track fast enough for that to be viable?

You can test them and wait a few days for the results, but what do you do with the horses and people while you are waiting a few days?

I've heard there are some quick turnaround tests out there. So maybe that's an option, but they'd have to have that technology.

There is supposed to be a test from Abbot that takes only 5 minutes.

[Andy Asaro]

Santa Anita schedules 29 stakes, including four Grade 1's

https://www.drf.com/news/santa-anita-schedules-29-stakes-including-four-grade-1s


Santa Anita releases condition book; what about the Derby?

https://www.horseracingnation.com/news/Santa_Anita_releases_condition_book_what_about_the _Derby_123

[Afleet]

Dr. Fauci anounced some good news on the treatment front this morning.

If you want to be an optimist about getting back to some semblance of normal, this is where you want to focus your attention.

Has Fauci been right about anything? We need second opinions

[the little guy]

Has Fauci been right about anything? We need second opinions

This is pretty bad. He's pretty much "right" about everything. He's the voice of reason and this country is damn lucky to have him.

[HorsemenHeist]

This is pretty bad. He's pretty much "right" about everything. He's the voice of reason and this country is damn lucky to have him.

He said that Tinder hookups are acceptable if you are willing to take the risk but is unwilling to sign off on baseball.... What science justifies this?

[ReplayRandall]

This is pretty bad. He's pretty much "right" about everything. He's the voice of reason and this country is damn lucky to have him.You couldn't be more wrong...bad handicapping on your part, Fauci's a bad little pony.

[the little guy]

You couldn't be more wrong...bad handicapping on your part, Fauci's a bad little pony.

Being told you are wrong by you is the highest compliment anyone can be paid.

[ReplayRandall]

Being told you are wrong by you is the highest compliment anyone can be paid.Crushing reply Sport, you really haven't done your homework at all....

Get back to me when you get some new material....What you got ain't good enough.

[spiketoo]

There is supposed to be a test from Abbot that takes only 5 minutes.

Announced in mid March. Heard it's not working very well.

[AndyC]

Announced in mid March. Heard it's not working very well.

I haven't read anything about that but it wouldn't surprise me.

[biggestal99]

Announced in mid March. Heard it's not working very well.

Throws out false negatives.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/16/rapid-coronavirus-test-commonly-used-in-u-s-may-miss-infections-in-some-situations/

Allan

[Andy Asaro]

Newsom: Some California businesses closed over coronavirus can reopen as early as Friday https://fxn.ws/2YwslUq #FoxNews

[NTamm1215]

Del Mar is proposing a 28-day meet opening July 10 and going through Labor Day where they hope to run the same number of races they did last year.

https://www.dmtc.com/media/news/del-mar-shifts-opening-day-to-july-10-will-race-1566

[classhandicapper]

I wonder if they are going to add some kind of 3yo Derby prep to the schedule. That might make some sense.

[cj]

I wonder if they are going to add some kind of 3yo Derby prep to the schedule. That might make some sense.

The Shared Belief is already on the schedule as a points race.

[classhandicapper]

The Shared Belief is already on the schedule as a points race.

Thanks.

Looks like August 18th. That seems like pretty good spacing for the Derby.