Parx Petition

[Afleet]

https://www.change.org/p/pa-governor-tom-wolf-save-horse-racing-in-pennsylvania-before-it-s-too-late/c

[fastfasterfastest]

I'm all for "saving" horse racing but the cesspool of corruption that is Parx I can do without.

[Afleet]

I'm all for "saving" horse racing but the cesspool of corruption that is Parx I can do without.

the governor there is corrupt as well

[castaway01]

If they want to save horse racing in PA, they'd be MUCH better off petitioning to reopen the casinos. What would daily purses be without casino money? The PA racetracks without casinos will have 1990 purses again.

[Afleet]

If they want to save horse racing in PA, they'd be MUCH better off petitioning to reopen the casinos. What would daily purses be without casino money? The PA racetracks without casinos will have 1990 purses again.

I assume they would handle more than WRD and Fonner. So $4 million x 20%+ take (not sure if they have they have their own betting app/ADW)

[cj]

I assume they would handle more than WRD and Fonner. So $4 million x 20%+ take (not sure if they have they have their own betting app/ADW)

Parx has one of the original ADWs, Phonebet (not sure if it is still called that). I'm not sure how much handle they get through that as opposed to others, but it would have to help at least some.

[Mason]

I assume they would handle more than WRD and Fonner. So $4 million x 20%+ take (not sure if they have they have their own betting app/ADW)

The smaller - middle tracks usually get 3 - 6 % of handle (not the full takeout rate) from outside betting sources, based on the negotiated rates between the host track and the outlet taking their signal. The biggest tracks can get 8 - 10 %

Parx does have phonebet and those statewide handle numbers are linked below.

https://www.agriculture.pa.gov/Animals/RacingCommission/commission/Documents/Harness%20and%20Horse%20Annual%20Report%202016a.pd f

https://gamingcontrolboard.pa.gov/files/reports/2017_Pari-Mutuel_Benchmark_Report.pdf

[Afleet]

The smaller - middle tracks usually get 3 - 6 % of handle (not the full takeout rate) from outside betting sources, based on the negotiated rates between the host track and the outlet taking their signal. The biggest tracks can get 8 - 10 %

Parx does have phonebet and those statewide handle numbers are linked below.

https://www.agriculture.pa.gov/Animals/RacingCommission/commission/Documents/Harness%20and%20Horse%20Annual%20Report%202016a.pd f

https://gamingcontrolboard.pa.gov/files/reports/2017_Pari-Mutuel_Benchmark_Report.pdf

thanks for those links. I admit I am biased having horses stabled there even though I dont bet the product (I couldn't if they started running tomorrow anyway due to ADW restrictions in my state)

[Afleet]

PA stats:

the average age of Pennsylvanian's dying is 79. And of those 3,000 deaths more than two-thirds are from people in nursing homes with 99.9% of them having underlying unrelated health issues to COVID 19.

For the record PA has approximately 13,000,000 people living in the State of Pennsylvania. Taking out the nursing home deaths that leaves 1,000 death certificates reading COVID 19.

This means the chances of a healthy person dying in the State of Pennsylvania from COVID 19 is 0.00007692%.

Does this justify extending the lockdown as the governor has done?

[Afleet]

The odds of becoming a lightning victim in the U.S. in any one year is 1 in 700,000.

So your chances of being struck by lightning

0.00014285714285714%

[Afleet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meOrcDYgG_c&list=PL7ISlZt94r_3Rkf2oF3pT1rvnOTM6i-zg&index=43

[classhandicapper]

There's one difference. Lightening is not very contagious. ;)

[castaway01]

The odds of becoming a lightning victim in the U.S. in any one year is 1 in 700,000.

So your chances of being struck by lightning

0.00014285714285714%

Please come volunteer in the hospitals here.

[pandy]

PA stats:

the average age of Pennsylvanian's dying is 79. And of those 3,000 deaths more than two-thirds are from people in nursing homes with 99.9% of them having underlying unrelated health issues to COVID 19.

For the record PA has approximately 13,000,000 people living in the State of Pennsylvania. Taking out the nursing home deaths that leaves 1,000 death certificates reading COVID 19.

This means the chances of a healthy person dying in the State of Pennsylvania from COVID 19 is 0.00007692%.

Does this justify extending the lockdown as the governor has done?

What Wolf is doing in PA is criminal. He's basing most of his criteria for opening on the state health czar, Rachel Levine, who is a pediatrician! She is not qualified to be handling this crisis. She came up with this 50 infections per 100,000 residents in a county over a 14 day period, which is way more extreme than the federal guidelines. Most of the counties in PA have very little infections and we went way past the curve. Wolf is getting a lot of pressure even from some Democrats. I have no idea why he's so hell bent on destroying small businesses. The unemployment rate in PA is going to be one of the highest in the country.

[pandy]

Please come volunteer in the hospitals here.

What's really odd, according to the CDC, 3% of health care workers have contacted the virus. You would think it would be more. If you back out the nursing homes, the numbers drop sharply. And, of course, there are certain areas in NY and other cities that got hit hard. 54% of the deaths from the virus occurred in six states.

[castaway01]

As discussed a while back in the thread about PA wanting to take all casino revenue away from Parx, 80% of their purse funding is from casino revenue. That number sounds and is insane, but it's also true. So you can debate being struck by lightning or any other ridiculous analogies all you want---you can even think it's the most perfect analogy and the testing is perfect and everything is perfect---but as I posted weeks ago, IF THE CASINOS AREN'T FUNDING PARX, PARX DOES NOT EXIST. This isn't Saratoga or Del Mar or Keeneland or any track that is actually successful. Parx does not exist without casino money, and the casino is closed and will stay closed for now unless the rules in PA are greatly relaxed.

[Ky2vell]

IF THE CASINOS AREN'T FUNDING PARX, PARX DOES NOT EXIST.
To add on, why would they demonstrate operability without their precious slot welfare in a state where the governor has openly called for its defunding? There really is no debate here.

[Afleet]

Please come volunteer in the hospitals here.

I admitted earlier I was biased. I hope everyone there stays safe and gets well.

[Afleet]

To add on, why would they demonstrate operability without their precious slot welfare in a state where the governor has openly called for its defunding? There really is no debate here.

My understanding is that when the law was written allowing casinos originally they (racing and casinos) couldn't be decoupled; so taking their funding would be breaking the law.

[owlshead]

is it just parx? is it not all of PA? presque isle horse racing, Penn national?

[Waquoit]

I have no idea why he's so hell bent on destroying small businesses.

I can't believe people think like this.

[Mason]

is it just parx? is it not all of PA? presque isle horse racing, Penn national?

Until the governor, Tom Wolf, gives as posted below, all PA tracks stay closed

"Green"

"The green phase eases most remaining restrictions to allow the economy to reopen while continuing to prioritize public health. Public health indicators will continue to be monitored, with restrictions implemented as necessary to ensure the spread of disease remains at a minimum.

All businesses open, but following CDC/Department of Health guidelines
Individuals must follow CDC/Department of Health guidelines
Remaining aggressive mitigation orders lifted"

[paddy79]

I'm all for "saving" horse racing but the cesspool of corruption that is Parx I can do without.


You'll find corruption at every track if you look hard enough. Sometimes you don't even need to look hard at all. I hope Parx keeps going. The more horse racing the better