Racing to continue at Aqueduct

[cj]

https://twitter.com/DRFGrening/status/1239635378941972480


Next date, Friday 3-20.

[ReplayRandall]

https://twitter.com/DRFGrening/status/1239635378941972480


Next date, Friday 3-20.
Does anyone know if they'll accept shippers from Maryland, or other shutdown states?

[FantasticDan]

A lot can happen between now and the 20th (including NYRA getting big blowback about this decision), so we'll see...

[cj]

A lot can happen between now and the 20th (including NYRA getting big blowback about this decision), so we'll see...

Of course, fluid times. Just posting what is current. Cuomo is no fan of NYRA last I checked so we'll see.

[azeri98]

New York state really needs the money. They won't even shut down the casinos but tell you to keep your gatherings at a minimum. What a joke.

[classhandicapper]

I was kind of surprised by this decision. Earlier today I was discussing with our managing partner what to do with the 2 horses we have in training. We could send them to a farm for a few months to save some money. But he told me both were still in training as usual and racing was going to continue for now. We decided to enter an earlier race than we were originally targeting hoping to get that start in now in case they have to cancel later. Better to run in a less than optimal spot than no spot at all.

[JustRalph]

New York state really needs the money. They won't even shut down the casinos but tell you to keep your gatherings at a minimum. What a joke.

Casino in Oneida closed

[mikesal57]

AQU track handle down 50% from one month ago...

Track handle will be gone on the 20th as they are following other tracks decisions...No Fans...

Lets see what over all handle does next weekend...

[Robert Fischer]

I hope this is a big success. :ThmbUp:


Will be a much needed distraction.

[lefty359]

Cuomo announced today that restaurants , gyms, bars etc. will be closed. So if Aqu stays open i'll be surprised.


On another note, Will Rogers downs opened today, with patrons in the stands.
MGM casinos in Vegas shut down. Will there be more casinos to follow?
Who knows?

[Bigadam119]

I’m happy to have racing to be a slight distraction from what’s going on, however I don’t know how long it will last. A lot of people are not working and will not have money to be betting the races.

[the little guy]

AQU track handle down 50% from one month ago...

Track handle will be gone on the 20th as they are following other tracks decisions...No Fans...

Lets see what over all handle does next weekend...

Down 50%? What are you even talking about.

Handle was down mildly last weekend from the year before ( when SA was closed ) and considerably less than other tracks. Our handle has been strong the whole meet.

[mikesal57]

Down 50%? What are you even talking about.

Handle was down mildly last weekend from the year before ( when SA was closed ) and considerably less than other tracks. Our handle has been strong the whole meet.

"Track Handle" not over-all....

Feb 15 vs Mar 15

[GMB@BP]

I am just impressed 0 people better over 400k.

[dilanesp]

I am just impressed 0 people better over 400k.

Well, that was Andy betting. He doesn't count in the attendance. :)

[mikesal57]

I am just impressed 0 people better over 400k.

I dont think Equibase has track attendance stats or maybe people using Sam Machines

anyway......lets wait and see Sat & Sun stats

[the little guy]

"Track Handle" not over-all....

Feb 15 vs Mar 15

Wait, you mean the on-track handle???? You can't be serious?

I know the uninformed like to say nobody goes to Aqueduct, but those that actually do know how busy it actually is, so you are comparing on track from a day with thousands of people there to a day with ZERO people there? It's amazing how much we do on just the Aqueduct races through NYRA Bets ( a figure that only includes betting on Aqueduct races, not other tracks ).

The depths some people will stoop to in an attempt to criticize NYRA are remarkable.

[Tom]

Aqueduct - nobody goes there.
It's too crowded!


:bang:

[dilanesp]

Wait, you mean the on-track handle???? You can't be serious?

I know the uninformed like to say nobody goes to Aqueduct, but those that actually do know how busy it actually is, so you are comparing on track from a day with thousands of people there to a day with ZERO people there? It's amazing how much we do on just the Aqueduct races through NYRA Bets ( a figure that only includes betting on Aqueduct races, not other tracks ).

The depths some people will stoop to in an attempt to criticize NYRA are remarkable.

I'm not criticizing NYRA here (or maybe at the most, very mildly criticizing them). NYRA seems to have come the closest of any racetrack operator to being able to run a meet within CDC guidelines (i.e., no crowds of more than 10 people). That's fundamentally good.

As for on-track attendance at Aqueduct, I have seen it for myself in the recent past. It wasn't that there was nobody there- but there weren't very many people there either (and that's despite the fact that the entire operation has been moved into the Clubhouse thus decreasing the size of the plant by about 80 percent). Just a handful.

[the little guy]

Lawyers already have a bad enough name. Please stop adding to it.

Thanks in advance.

[dilanesp]

Lawyers already have a bad enough name. Please stop adding to it.

Thanks in advance.

Andy, ad hominem attacks with no substance are the type of thing that are going to give handicappers and television commentators a bad name.

I am posting substance here. You are pursuing petty grievances.

[acorn54]

this is a golden oppy. for racing to make a comeback. it works out perfectly as a venue for gambling where you don,t have to risk getting the virus. aqueduct should do radio ads that say they are the "only game in town".

[Michael]

The best part of the Aqueduct is the resturant on the upper level. The website has dress requirements outlined! I don't know about you guys but I'm sure as hell never wearing nice clothes when I go and visit that track. Just wearing a shirt with a collar has to increase the chance of you getting robbed in the parking lot by at least 4 fold.

[cj]

The best part of the Aqueduct is the resturant on the upper level. The website has dress requirements outlined! I don't know about you guys but I'm sure as hell never wearing nice clothes when I go and visit that track. Just wearing a shirt with a collar has to increase the chance of you getting robbed in the parking lot by at least 4 fold.

Come on, man.

[thaskalos]

The best part of the Aqueduct is the resturant on the upper level. The website has dress requirements outlined! I don't know about you guys but I'm sure as hell never wearing nice clothes when I go and visit that track. Just wearing a shirt with a collar has to increase the chance of you getting robbed in the parking lot by at least 4 fold.

Not true. My brother-in-law is a priest...and he has been going to Aqueduct every Saturday for many years without any problem.

[Michael]

FFS, the AQU itself got robbed.


edit: I have family members that have lived in the area for close to 20 years.
Its not the safest area to begin with and only got worse when that casino opened.
I stand by my words. It's up to you to extend the benefit of the doubt to not read as far into
my comment as you guys make it sound.

[dilanesp]

I went to Hollywood Park on Friday nights for many years. Plus played poker there. I heard all sorts of stuff about how terrible the neighborhood was. Nothing ever happened.

Look, if you handle lots of money at any gambling facility, including ritzy ones in Las Vegas, you should watch out. It's not a terrible idea to have the establishment write you a check for big wins (they will do it). High rolling casino gamblers and poker players should use player's banks.

But other than that commonsense precaution, I see no reason to assume that you are going to get robbed at Aqueduct. You are probably just as likely to get your pocket picked at Saratoga, really.

[classhandicapper]

But other than that commonsense precaution, I see no reason to assume that you are going to get robbed at Aqueduct. You are probably just as likely to get your pocket picked at Saratoga, really.

I'm going to have to say "disagree" to that one, but I've never had an issue at AQU either. :-)

[RunForTheRoses]

I went to Hollywood Park on Friday nights for many years. Plus played poker there. I heard all sorts of stuff about how terrible the neighborhood was. Nothing ever happened.

.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/big-winner-at-race-track-robbed-shot-to-death/article_28735715-40e7-5496-9d9b-e239617999dc.html

[dilanesp]

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/big-winner-at-race-track-robbed-shot-to-death/article_28735715-40e7-5496-9d9b-e239617999dc.html

What Unger did is dangerous at any racetrack, as I said above.

[Big K]

FFS, the AQU itself got robbed.


edit: I have family members that have lived in the area for close to 20 years.
Its not the safest area to begin with and only got worse when that casino opened.
I stand by my words. It's up to you to extend the benefit of the doubt to not read as far into
my comment as you guys make it sound.

I've been going to the Big A since the early seventies. Never had a problem of any kind.

[RunForTheRoses]

What Unger did is dangerous at any racetrack, as I said above.

Yeah, i agree, just Fin with ya. Guy deserved some responsibility.

Regarding Aqueduct, it is generally safe during usual hours. Now, if I was there late at night and had $20K+ in cash I'd probably get a security escort.

[Tom]

FFS, the AQU itself got robbed.


edit: I have family members that have lived in the area for close to 20 years.
Its not the safest area to begin with and only got worse when that casino opened.
I stand by my words. It's up to you to extend the benefit of the doubt to not read as far into
my comment as you guys make it sound.

Data?

[Michael]

When I wrote my initial post it was meant to point out the obvious. (I find it absurd they're requesting a dress code anywhere under that roof)

By all means, not everyone has to agree with me. Nevertheless, count me in the camp that rolls their eyes at the simple thought of wearing one of my nice shirts with a collar to a breakfast buffet at the Big A. Yes, my "four fold" comment was a bit tongue and cheek, but it not such a supreme over extention of a possible reality.

This is a place that just had security guards robbed of $270,000 in cash at the end of the night bc they were un-armed.


https://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/heist-at-aqueduct-nets-k-haul/article_f97ec4ba-bf69-541d-9955-4bb0a0e39776.html

Do you think anyone is looking out for you? as you leave with pockets full of cash? Well, call your friends and family and bring your kids to see the horsies. I'm just not sure it's fair to say "come on, man" or ask for data. To each their own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNvfTJKIppI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiklKAPB1Y8

[Tom]

Sounds to me like their dress code is doing EXACTLY what it was meant to do! :rolleyes::lol:

[Redboard]

When I wrote my initial post it was meant to point out the obvious. (I find it absurd they're requesting a dress code anywhere under that roof)

By all means, not everyone has to agree with me. Nevertheless, count me in the camp that rolls their eyes at the simple thought of wearing one of my nice shirts with a collar to a breakfast buffet at the Big A. Yes, my "four fold" comment was a bit tongue and cheek, but it not such a supreme over extention of a possible reality.

This is a place that just had security guards robbed of $270,000 in cash at the end of the night bc they were un-armed.


https://www.qchron.com/editions/queenswide/heist-at-aqueduct-nets-k-haul/article_f97ec4ba-bf69-541d-9955-4bb0a0e39776.html

Do you think anyone is looking out for you? as you leave with pockets full of cash? Well, call your friends and family and bring your kids to see the horsies. I'm just not sure it's fair to say "come on, man" or ask for data. To each their own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNvfTJKIppI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiklKAPB1Y8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiklKAPB1Y8)


Those two videos are five years old. The first is considered to be an inside job.

Got anything else more recent, where customers got hurt?

[mikesal57]

Those two videos are five years old. The first is considered to be an inside job.

Got anything else more recent, where customers got hurt?

Wait a few weeks...they are coming :lol:

[Robert Fischer]

Elegant attire comes natural :coffee:, but yea... use common sense, be aware of your surroundings.

As the gentleman in Jamaica Queens, so eloquently elucidate; "Don't Sleep". :cool:

[Michael]

Those two videos are five years old. The first is considered to be an inside job.

Got anything else more recent, where customers got hurt?


You obviously didn't read what I wrote, as you're missing the whole moral of my post that you quoted.


Why don't you wear a bathing suit to a funeral? your friend is getting married, do you sport your chicago bulls jersey to the wedding? if you went to mcdonalds, would you find it odd if they required you to wear a bow tie to buy a breakfast burrito?


Inside job? how many places do you visit where the employees are more dangerous than the guests? I can't even reply to you without leaving my palm on my forhead.



My message was fairly clear after my last post that you quoted. I'm going to leave it at that

[PaceAdvantage]

They just suspended racing at Aqueduct until further notice...backstretch worker @ Belmont tested positive...

[thaskalos]

Well...that about does it then. Hong Kong is our only betting refuge. :eek:

[Redboard]

You obviously didn't read what I wrote, as you're missing the whole moral of my post that you quoted.


Why don't you wear a bathing suit to a funeral? your friend is getting married, do you sport your chicago bulls jersey to the wedding? if you went to mcdonalds, would you find it odd if they required you to wear a bow tie to buy a breakfast burrito?


Inside job? how many places do you visit where the employees are more dangerous than the guests? I can't even reply to you without leaving my palm on my forhead.


My message was fairly clear after my last post that you quoted. I'm going to leave it at that

About as clear as mud Michael.

You don't want AQU to have a dress code because people who aren't dressed like slobs there have a tendency to get robbed? Then you post two YouTubes that are five years old. And the "inside job" story has nothing to do with dressed-up patrons getting robbed.

And what is a forhead?

[mikesal57]

Well...that about does it then. Hong Kong is our only betting refuge. :eek:

Not really....

Florida going strong with Tampa & Gulfstream

and Oaklawn is still around

Sam Houston has some good racing too

P.S.- Dam....I was so looking to getting mugged this weekend at AQU

[thaskalos]

Not really....

Florida going strong with Tampa & Gulfstream

and Oaklawn is still around

Sam Houston has some good racing too

P.S.- Dam....I was so looking to getting mugged this weekend at AQU

With Aqueduct falling by the wayside...the prospect of the rest of the tracks continuing on becomes a longshot probability...IMO.

[mikesal57]

With Aqueduct falling by the wayside...the prospect of the rest of the tracks continuing on becomes a longshot probability...IMO.

Just hope no-one gets sick

[thaskalos]

Just hope no-one gets sick

How can no-one get sick? Even members of Congress are getting sick...and they never touch anything.

[mikesal57]

How can no-one get sick? Even members of Congress are getting sick...and they never touch anything.

or Do anything....


Just wishful thinking

[classhandicapper]

With Aqueduct falling by the wayside...the prospect of the rest of the tracks continuing on becomes a longshot probability...IMO.

I was shocked they were even trying.

A backstretch worker getting sick was inevitable. At that point you have to just throw up your hands and do the bare minimum of caring for the horses while some owners ship out to farms.

I'm involved with 2 horses. One is being shipped out to a farm, but the trainer wants to keep working with the other against my better judgement. (but I'm not managing partner).

[PaceAdvantage]

The backstretch worker in question was at Belmont. He never made it to Aqueduct.

They had him and his roomate in quarantine since last Friday...when he started showing symptoms...apparently, the positive test was confirmed today....

https://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/news/nyra-suspends-live-racing-at-aqueduct-racetrack