Black Magic and ValueCapper dongles for sale

[ronestes]

Not sure how to go about this, but I am selling my ValueCapper and Black Magic Dongles. I am leaving the Racing game. Interested parties send me a Private message with any reasonable offers. Thanks Ron

[mikesal57]

Not sure how to go about this, but I am selling my ValueCapper and Black Magic Dongles. I am leaving the Racing game. Interested parties send me a Private message with any reasonable offers. Thanks Ron

How much is the monthly data associated with it?

[lefty359]

I forget what the monthly data costs, but individual files are $1.50
I thik monthly is somewhere in 90$ range.

[Speed Figure]

How much is the monthly data associated with it?

It's about $124 per month and includes the private wizards forum.

[mikesal57]

It's about $124 per month and includes the private wizards forum.

thank you

[mabred]

Has this sold,

[thaskalos]

Not sure how to go about this, but I am selling my ValueCapper and Black Magic Dongles. I am leaving the Racing game. Interested parties send me a Private message with any reasonable offers. Thanks Ron

Did these handicapping tools hasten your departure from the "Racing game"?

[Bullet Plane]

I would doubt it.

You see many handicapping contest winners using it.

Having said that, I've see guys who are great using the free program at the simulcast center.

And every shade of gray in between.

It's not the tools you use, it's the skill that you have.

Or don't have.

Having said that, my bets are way down the last few years since the computer whales started screwing with the odds.

But I still watch the races.

Just rarely ever bet.

[mikesal57]

I would doubt it.

You see many handicapping contest winners using it.

Having said that, I've see guys who are great using the free program at the simulcast center.

And every shade of gray in between.

It's not the tools you use, it's the skill that you have.

Or don't have.

Having said that, my bets are way down the last few years since the computer whales started screwing with the odds.

But I still watch the races.

Just rarely ever bet.

Man....you have big time patience.....

I bet even when I'm in the middle of researching...

[Bullet Plane]

Well, I retired a few years ago.

And then BANG, the big "D".


So, I'd like to think that I have patience.

But, necessity is the mother of invention.

And, oh yeah,


.... the whales...

[mikesal57]

Well, I retired a few years ago.

And then BANG, the big "D".


So, I'd like to think that I have patience.

But, necessity is the mother of invention.

And, oh yeah,


.... the whales...

"D" ?

[Bullet Plane]

the big "D" and I don't mean Dallas.

Divorce.

[mikesal57]

the big "D" and I don't mean Dallas.

Divorce.

Sorry man....should have kept working :lol:

Just kidding, had to say it...

just have to move on

[Appy]

So whatever happened with the keys to the software?
Mostly want to know what was considered a reasonable offer.

[Pfranktdn9]

Do you still have the software for sale? I'm very interested in purchasing the either software if you still have either of these.

[Kbatch57]

Do you still have the software for sale? I'm very interested in purchasing the either software if you still have either of these.
If you click on ronestes public profile you will see a message to someone replying that it had been sold.

[jp320]

I have a black magic dongle for sale
Bill

[Pfranktdn9]

Good morning. I'm interested in purchasing either the Black Magic Software or the Value Capper Software if anyone is interested in selling either software program. Please contact me if you have either software for sale.

[jp320]

I sent two pm' s with a price and no reply
Bill

[jp320]

I guess you are not interested
Bill

[headhawg]

Jesus. Relax dude. Maybe Pfrank doesn't log on everyday. What's the rush?

[thaskalos]

Jesus. Relax dude. Maybe Pfrank doesn't log on everyday. What's the rush?

From the looks of it...jp doesn't log on everyday either.

[Kbatch57]

Good morning. I'm interested in purchasing either the Black Magic Software or the Value Capper Software if anyone is interested in selling either software program. Please contact me if you have either software for sale.


I was checking Ebay this morning and discovered that someone has ValueCapper for sale. It has a starting Bid of $900

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324735132852?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11021.m5057.l9429&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=58f481ea58dc4910b6527945d7cd7ad1&bu=43208043666&ut=RU&osub=-1%7E1&crd=20210804030551&segname=11021&sojTags=ch%3Dch%2Cbu%3Dbu%2Cut%3Dut%2Cosub%3Dosub% 2Ccrd%3Dcrd%2Csegname%3Dsegname%2Cchnl%3Dmkcid

[lefty359]

No bids yet. Prob go for the $900

[Kbatch57]

No bids yet. Prob go for the $900
Unless the seller happens to have a reserve on it.

[lefty359]

If bid starts at $900 I'm pretty sure that's the reserve Anyway, I always thght that's the way it is.

[Kbatch57]

If bid starts at $900 I'm pretty sure that's the reserve Anyway, I always thght that's the way it is.
Considering for current BLAM Owners the purchase price is $1297 and for new Owners it is $1797 you can save a decent chunk of change if you can get it for $1000 or under.

As long as you can still become a member of the Wizards Forum and get the unlimited Data plan it would definitely be a good deal.

[lefty359]

Yep, I'd pay $900 for it if I didn't already have it.

[Speed Figure]

Sold for $850 as a buy it now!

[Kbatch57]

Sold for $850 as a buy it now!

I was watching the original Auction and it didn't sell at $900. Then he had a quick listing with a best offer option, but took it down immediately.

Then posted it again with an $850 buy it now option and it sold.

Good deal for somebody as long as they can get Wizards Forum access and the unlimited data package. Figure with taxes it was probably a little over $900 total.

[Hanger]

I was watching the original Auction and it didn't sell at $900. Then he had a quick listing with a best offer option, but took it down immediately.

Then posted it again with an $850 buy it now option and it sold.

Good deal for somebody as long as they can get Wizards Forum access and the unlimited data package. Figure with taxes it was probably a little over $900 total.


Rumor was if you bought it second hand they make you jump through hoops for Wizards access, can anyone confirm that?

[Speed Figure]

Rumor was if you bought it second hand they make you jump through hoops for Wizards access, can anyone confirm that?
Not true! all you need is the original users confirmed email address so the license can be transferred to the new buyer. After that you can setup your unlimited downloads with wizards forum account.

[Hanger]

Not true! all you need is the original users confirmed email address so the license can be transferred to the new buyer. After that you can setup your unlimited downloads with wizards forum account.


Thank you, just another crazy rumor

[SandyW]

Does anybody really win over the long term with Black Magic or ValueCapper?

I tried it and got many conflicting results, too many screens.

Very tough to get your purchased price back no matter how good you do with programs.

Sorry just my observation.

[Secondbest]

Does anybody really win over the long term with Black Magic or ValueCapper?

I tried it and got many conflicting results, too many screens.

Very tough to get your purchased price back no matter how good you do with programs.

Sorry just my observation.

Read the posts by Mhaney0423

[lefty359]

Does anybody really win over the long term with Black Magic or ValueCapper?

I tried it and got many conflicting results, too many screens.

Very tough to get your purchased price back no matter how good you do with programs.

Sorry just my observation.


That's what I thought a yr or so ago when I bght it for the 1st time.
When you learn to look at certain screens in conjunction with ea other then the muddle becomes much more clear. I was all over the place the first time but 2nd time around after about 2 months I am well ahead.


Bu let's say I never get my cost back. I know people who spend much more on golf, fishing photography and other things. Horse racing is what I like to do. So profits are a bonus.


The secret is to watch ALL the training videos!

[headhawg]

Does anybody really win over the long term with Black Magic or ValueCapper?

I tried it and got many conflicting results, too many screens.

Very tough to get your purchased price back no matter how good you do with programs.

Sorry just my observation.No software auto-magically makes anyone a winner. None. That is why I have posted many times that a user has to find a program or programs that he or she feels comfortable using. The more features a program has or the more information that is provided, the more time needs to be spent learning how to use it. Matt wrote that it took him a year or so to "get it". That probably included a lot of losses. But he believed in what he was doing and stuck it out. Most people give up after a month or two and then bitch that the software sucks, so kudos to him.

The reality is that software is a handicapping tool, nothing more. Black box software doesn't exist, or at the very least it is not for sale. But software can save time that can be used for making smart betting decisions which most people (including myself) are terrible at doing. Use a good software tool and learn how to make smart bets. And by good software I mean something that does what you want it to do in a way that doesn't frustrate you when you use it.

Just my 2 cents.

[lefty359]

Headhog, I agree with you completely

[cato]

dat's right!

[mhaney0423]

Does anybody really win over the long term with Black Magic or ValueCapper?

I tried it and got many conflicting results, too many screens.

Very tough to get your purchased price back no matter how good you do with programs.

Sorry just my observation.

Hi Sandy,

I lost money hand over fist the first year I had Valuecapper, second year I basically broke even after paying for data, since then, I have made money. Certainly not enough to retire on or pay the bills but a healthy profit after data nonetheless. What Headhawg says is absolutely true, any software is just a tool, its up to the user to figure out how to make that tool work for them, sometimes a person just cannot get a software to work for them.

[FastCharlie]

I have been in the game over 45 years and like everyone else I have good years and not so good years. This is a great sport and like all sports we win and lose, but enjoy the game.

[RichieP]

I am out of racing completely for almost a year and looking to sell my Valuecapper software(have the dongle and will provide name in PM so you can check with Post Time Daily to verify I am legit owner).
Price $600 includes shipping to you. This is firm and not negotiable.
My best to everyone! :)
Richie

[Pfranktdn9]

Good morning. I'm interested in purchasing the Black Magic Software that you have for sale. How much are looking to sell the Black Magic Software for?