(another) VVAW member calls out Kerry as "fake"

[ElKabong]

One of the founders of the VVAW (robert johnson) wrote a letter to Kerry recently, calling him among other things a "mini veteran". Hell hath no fury like a Commie scorned :)

http://www.solvinglight.com/kerryletter.htm

snippetts--"During the democratic convention, your flagrant boastful show of your "heroism" gave the impression that you had been a man in the thick of combat, when in fact, you had been a man on the very edge of it, all the while slyly conniving your way out of it. Instead of "Reporting for duty," you should have said, "Derelict in my duty." I marvel at your pomposity, and at the astonishing facility with which you present your phony war record as fact to the American people.........

"The truth is you faked combat wounds in Viet Nam, and your actions were devious and self-serving. You were a "Purple Heart hunter," just as the Swift Boat Vets say. Narcissus was an actor, and so are you.........

A man who will fake Purple Hearts for the sake of glorifying his image has no integrity and misdefines truth as whatever enhances the power and prestige of that image. A man without depth and substance stands for anything and everything-so long as his image is glorified. Narcissists such as you cannot be trusted...The issues in this election are truthfulness and character, and you lack both.

What enabled you to rise to the leadership of VVAW? What caused us, back then, to respect a four-month mini-veteran of the war? The answer is your medals: your phony medals for valor and your three phony Purple Hearts. Your congressional testimony about the war began with your own assertions that you had received the Silver Star and three Purple Hearts. What better spokesman than an heroic, thrice-wounded veteran! Our mistake was that we all assumed you were an honest and good man. But well before your antiwar days, you had decided to trade your integrity for the spotlight, and to barter your loyalty for vain political ambitions..........end
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For verification of Johnson's fmr VVAW standing (as if one could be proud of it), findlaw has it on their site.

http://news.findlaw.com/prnewswire/20041018/18oct2004174611.html

[ponyplayer]

Great post. Thanks.

[boxcar]

Whoa...that Johnson do have a way with words! Methinks he has Kerry pegged perfectly.

Thanks, Elk, for posting this.

Boxcar

[Equineer]

The vicious distortion and slander campaigns against Kerry leave no doubt that Karl Rove and company are without scruples.

Today, I got an e-mail with actuarial statistics about prostate cancer and a warning that Kerry would not survive a full term in office if elected. Of course, the statistics were for all prostate cancer victims, and they hardly apply to Kerry who was diagnosed early and opted for maximum recourse treatment.

For weeks, Washington has buzzed about secret Bush medical records that have purportedly been turned over to NewsWeek and to the Kerry camp. Thankfully, Kerry and NewsWeek have taken the high road.

[ElKabong]

Originally posted by Equineer
The vicious distortion and slander campaigns against Kerry leave no doubt that Karl Rove and company are without scruples.

Today, I got an e-mail with actuarial statistics about prostate cancer and a warning that Kerry would not survive a full term in office if elected. Of course, the statistics were for all prostate cancer victims, and they hardly apply to Kerry who was diagnosed early and opted for maximum recourse treatment.

For weeks, Washington has buzzed about secret Bush medical records that have purportedly been turned over to NewsWeek and to the Kerry camp. Thankfully, Kerry and NewsWeek have taken the high road.

Not sure if your post is on topic here, eq...Johnson is a registered democrat. Not sure WHY you'd think Rove was behind this, but have at it all day long... knock yerself out. Besides, Kerry's history with the VVAW is a matter of record, not Rove's act of wizardry.

[Lefty]

EQ, How do you know it's slander? Sounds like a fair question: 3 wounds, 3 purple hearts, no recovery time needed. Fair question.
Meanwhile Kerry, the DNC and others have been slandering Bush ever since he's been in office and that seems to be ok with you. Anytime anyone airs any lie and distortion about Bush it's free speech. But when people that were with Kerry say something negative about him they are threatened with lawsuits and complaints to the FCC. Sorry but the dems are the ones with no scruples and it's been that way for years. As long as Mcauliffe and Clinton run the Dems it will be a sleazy, underhanded operation.

[ElKabong]

http://news.findlaw.com/prnewswire/20041018/18oct2004174611.html

Johnson, a registered democrat, writes in his letter that


That Karl Rove fella....He must have the midas touch getting these Dems to come out against Kerry. I mean, Kerry's such an honorable sort.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Equineer]

Elkabong,

The full text of Johnson's letter includes Rove-speak signature barbs at Kerry such as "foreign-born-and-raised wife."

Johnson is best known as a Book of Genesis scholar whose exegesis of the Garden of Eden story is far more literal than that of most contemporary theologians.

Johnson's origins explain why he was registered Democrat... almost everyone at the annual "lacrosse crab feast" has a Maryland Dixiecrat heritage. The Republican "Southern Strategy" embraced these Dixiecrats to counter the Civil Rights movement.

FindLaw.Com notes that his "letter to Kerry" was a commercially released presentation by http://www.send2press.com/

As a Democrat/Dixiecrat who doubts the Big Bang theory, he probably qualifies for the RNC double-bonus spiff. :)

[JustRalph]

When it comes to Kerry's prostate, it seems like Equine has something up his ass about it! :D

[Equineer]

Lefty,EQ, How do you know it's slander? Sounds like a fair question: 3 wounds, 3 purple hearts, no recovery time needed. Fair question.The military has no strings attached to the Purple Heart, so 3 wounds in separate incidents qualifies for 3 hearts. This is not to say that many vets who fought in extended battle campaigns during WW-II and Korea might not scoff at some Purple Hearts awarded for minor wounds after brief skirmishes in Viet Nam. Nevertheless, I would pose the question, "Was Kerry a special case given that he served in Viet Nam?"

In my view, he probably became a special case only afterwards due to the controversial nature of his political activities. From biographical sketches that I have read, he probably entered the Navy like some of the super-preppy presumptive types that I remember before the career officers and senior NCOs jerked their preppy heads out of their O-1 asses. Unless he was tabbed from above for special consideration, I would bet that Kerry had to work hard just to "fit in" when he went to Viet Nam.

On balance, Kerry is probably as deserving of his hearts and Star as many other Nam vets who earned these citations... the unseemly part is that after Nam he kept his own decorations while symbolically pitching others onto the White House lawn. It is a bit easier to respect the anti-war vets who carried their own medals to the fence on crutches.

However, many Nam vets were gung ho to go, but returned disillusioned. Much of what they protested was well-founded. History will never recognize Viet Nam as anything but a tragedy for all concerned. The Domino Theory should have been buried in 1953 within the DMZ. Only much later, as Viet Nam ended, did Nixon/Kissinger and later Reagan properly identify economic policy as the WMD that would decide the Cold War.

[PaceAdvantage]

Thank God someone is talking about Kerry's prostate. They wouldn't shut up about Cheney's heart in 2000.

They're still keeping Kerry's prostate in the closet. As of a few weeks ago, some very well educated friends of mine didn't even know he had cancer. Mind you, they aren't very poitical people, but they are up on current events.

[PaceAdvantage]

Equineer, you've become so much bolder with your views since you first came on here. Bravo!

[Equineer]

Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
Equineer, you've become so much bolder with your views since you first came on here. Bravo! Election year fever... what will we talk about next July after the outcome has finally been decided? There oughta be a constitutional amendment to call it a draw and inaugerate both if we can't declare a winner before the Derby.

[Tom]

Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
Thank God someone is talking about Kerry's prostate.


They have been talking about Edwards a lot, haven't they???:confused:

[NoDayJob]

Originally posted by ElKabong
http://news.findlaw.com/prnewswire/20041018/18oct2004174611.html

Johnson, a registered democrat, writes in his letter that


That Karl Rove fella....He must have the midas touch getting these Dems to come out against Kerry. I mean, Kerry's such an honorable sort.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


:D An interesting side note---The former Mayor of New York, Ed "Super-Lib" Koch has come out for President Bush. Isn't he one of the "Hillary" for Prexy in '08ers? When "Super-Lib" is touting President Bush, it makes one wonder.

BTW, I'm forming a new third party---Bomb-throwers United. Need money. You can send your contributions to http://www.BTU_We_Need_The_Freekin_Money.org. :D

NDJ

[Equineer]

Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
They wouldn't shut up about Cheney's heart in 2000.No worries this year. Rove always learns from his mistakes and eliminates them. Cheney doesn't even seem to miss it! :)

[ElKabong]

Can't wait to hear someone here rave on about how Karl Rove made the FBI follow John Kerry around 30+ yrs ago. :D Afterall, Kerry was such an innocent lad, other than the war criminal thing, the ditched plan of killing senators, etc, etc.

http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=23787

Kerry's FBI files reveal comments from Buffalo chapter of Vietnam Veterans Against the War

Most of us know that John Kerry was one of the leaders of the group "Vietnam Veterans Against the War" back in the early 1970's.

Little known though is how the Buffalo chapter of the group felt about Kerry.

Using the Freedom of Information Act, Channel 2 News has obtained hundreds of pages of Kerry's FBI files directly from the agency's headquarters in Washington.

A memo dated November 10, 1971 from the Buffalo FBI office to its Washington headquarters states that the Buffalo chapter of Vietnam Veterans Against the War wanted the national group to condemn Kerry because of his "wealthy family background and his political aspirations."

The memo went on to say that the Buffalo group felt that "Kerry supported the U.S. government and was only using V.V.A.W. to further his political aspirations."

In a coincidence of history, Kerry actually spoke in Buffalo at U.B.'s Main Street campus shortly after the memo was written. There, he told students there were "two Americas. One filled with slogans from our leaders, the other, reality."

Kerry would use almost those exact same words 33 years later during his presidential campaign when talking about the situation in Iraq.

[ElKabong]

http://www.wgrz.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=23787

"Lines of the month" goes to the Buffalo, NY NBC affilliate...

In a coincidence of history, Kerry actually spoke in Buffalo at U.B.'s Main Street campus shortly after the memo was written. There, he told students there were "two Americas. One filled with slogans from our leaders, the other, reality."

Kerry would use almost those exact same words 33 years later during his presidential campaign when talking about the situation in Iraq.

[Equineer]

Elkabong,

Biographical accounts have always emphasized Kerry's unbounded ambition and compulsion to succeed. It has been said that when Kerry talks of slogans versus reality, reality has only two attributes: success and recognition.

In the debates, Kerry insisted that he should not be labelled. There is a pundit's story that has Kerry appearing as a celebrity contestant on the Price Is Right. He nails every price to the penny. In the grand finale, Bob Barker tells Kerry that a different constituency has been assembled behind each of the three prize doors. Barker asks aloud whether Kerry will be lucky enough to pick the most compatible match. Kerry responds, "Bob, you pick the door; I'll lead whoever comes out."

While this may not be a Norman Rockwell kind of personality sketch, it does not suggest Kerry would timidly pursue success and recognition as a winner in the pages of history.

[Lefty]

EQ, isn't it funny that liberals running for election run from that label while conservatives do not run from their label. Labels give you a handy reference as to what you're getting. So a liberal must wear his label whether he likes it or not. If people like Kerry don't want the liberal label then they should vote differently. But when you constantly promulgate the old tripe about only the rich benefit from tax cuts and the Republican effort to fix SS will lead to seniors losing benefits and stand up in black churches and tell the blatent lie that Repubs are out to take away their vote, then you are a liberal. Stinkweed by any other name is still stinkweed. And a liberal is a liberal is a...