Frank M screwed up the Kilroe call

[dilanesp]

I missed this- I was out of the country when the race went off- but Frank M. confidently said "Catapult! Perfectly timed by Drayden Van Dyke" was the winner of the Kilroe Mile.

Turned out Van Dyke's timing wasn't so perfect. Catapult's head came up at the wire and Ohio won the photo.

Santa Anita dumped Wrona to get this guy. :)

[cj]

I missed this- I was out of the country when the race went off- but Frank M. confidently said "Catapult! Perfectly timed by Drayden Van Dyke" was the winner of the Kilroe Mile.

Turned out Van Dyke's timing wasn't so perfect. Catapult's head came up at the wire and Ohio won the photo.

Santa Anita dumped Wrona to get this guy. :)

For whatever reason this doesn't bother me. I like the announcer calling it if he thinks he knows which horse win. Nothing is worse than a guy that won't call an obvious one. Nobody felt worse than Frank. He isn't my favorite announcer or anything but watching it live I thought Catapult had won too.

He came right back and called the Big Cap winner in a very tight photo as well.

[dilanesp]

For whatever reason this doesn't bother me. I like the announcer calling it if he thinks he knows which horse win. Nothing is worse than a guy that won't call an obvious one. Nobody felt worse than Frank. He isn't my favorite announcer or anything but watching it live I thought Catapult had won too.

He came right back and called the Big Cap winner in a very tight photo as well.

My problem isn't SO much with the call of the wrong winner as with the editorialization, which makes it look worse. "PERFECTLY timed"? No, it was not. Timing was precisely the problem.

[the little guy]

For whatever reason this doesn't bother me. I like the announcer calling it if he thinks he knows which horse win. Nothing is worse than a guy that won't call an obvious one. Nobody felt worse than Frank. He isn't my favorite announcer or anything but watching it live I thought Catapult had won too.

He came right back and called the Big Cap winner in a very tight photo as well.


Ah the irony of a poster who is pretty much never right calling out an announcer for blowing a photo.

[Robert Fischer]

he cost me that race.

I had already started into my catapult celebration

[thaskalos]

For whatever reason this doesn't bother me. I like the announcer calling it if he thinks he knows which horse win. Nothing is worse than a guy that won't call an obvious one. Nobody felt worse than Frank. He isn't my favorite announcer or anything but watching it live I thought Catapult had won too.

He came right back and called the Big Cap winner in a very tight photo as well.

It's kinda lame when the announcer calls it a "photo-finish" when the winner is a neck in front...but I can't hold it against him if he doesn't call the winner in a tight head-bob. Better safe than sorry, I say.

[dilanesp]

Ah the irony of a poster who is pretty much never right calling out an announcer for blowing a photo.

Really, Andy?

I will remind you that at the beginning of that thread you were in the other day, you flatly denied my post stating that NYRA and the BC had been in a state of mutual disinterest, and personally insulted me (which you apparently think is an effective mode of argumentation). Only to admit my point later in the thread (without admitting you got it wrong, of course).

Maybe you should remove the log from your own eye first....

[jballscalls]

It's kinda lame when the announcer calls it a "photo-finish" when the winner is a neck in front...but I can't hold it against him if he doesn't call the winner in a tight head-bob. Better safe than sorry, I say.

One thing to consider is many of the booths are not on the finish line so the angle can be much tougher to decipher than on TV. Keeneland the booth is practically at the 1/16th pole. Portland Meadows i used to be a good 50 feet up from the wire so if i saw the inside nose i know that horse won. but if i couldn't see it then it became really difficult to decipher a winner. At GPW this past fall the "booth" was probably 15 or 20 feet past the line and there were a handful of photos where I thought a certain horse was the winner but called photo cause of the angle and was glad I did cause I would have been wrong. River Downs was right on the wire and i think I chickened out on calling a photo maybe twice in 3 years, could see everything perfect there

[Robert Fischer]

Arkansas-bred 'Guska Mon Shoes' got Vic today in the 8th @ Oaklawn.

Bold move in the middle of the track "GUSKAAA MON!! SHOES!!!!!!!"

Then the horse hung badly and never caught the leader.

[Suff]

Frank called the 8th race winner at SA incorrectly today as well.

Magical Grey at the line. oops.

[Franco Santiago]

What does it matter if the announcer gets it right or wrong at the wire? If your horse is in front you still get paid. If not, you lose. To get upset or dismayed at announcer's wire call is unnecessary and immaterial.

[Suff]

What does it matter if the announcer gets it right or wrong at the wire? If your horse is in front you still get paid. If not, you lose. To get upset or dismayed at announcer's wire call is unnecessary and immaterial.


I don't care. I just happened to catch it and recalled seeing this thread.

Its CRC. (Compelling Recency Coincidence). ;)

[taxicab]

Its CRC. (Compelling Recency Coincidence). ;)

Nice....:headbanger:

[Suff]

Nice....:headbanger:

Its a scientific term.

[dilanesp]

Frank called the 8th race winner at SA incorrectly today as well.

Magical Grey at the line. oops.

Vic Stauffer used to do something I like on close photos- he'd say "maybe". That's much better.

[Hedevar]

Vic Stauffer used to do something I like on close photos- he'd say "maybe". That's much better.

I agree. Phil Georgeff used to say "maybe" in a real tight photo.

I miss Wrona.

[Robert Fischer]

I'm not a huge fan of the Euro style of race calling where they speak in the past tense. They also use the pronoun 'it' a lot instead of 'he' or 'she'.

"Bobby Fischer went to the front, Taxicab went with It... "

how about the American style? "And Bobby Fischer is taking the lead! Taxicab surges!" ?

or what about Vic's "Bob-beeeeee FISCH:mad:ERRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111 TAX-I-CAB at the wi-re... !!!! :eek:..." ?


I guess the Euro style is 'classier'...


Doesn't really matter to me. As long as the announcer is calling the race and has the field's names in recall.

I usually have the announcer on live, and then the first go-round of a replay viewing(where I usually mute the sound once I know who's who). Very few announcers have to be muted on live.

[classhandicapper]

I missed this- I was out of the country when the race went off- but Frank M. confidently said "Catapult! Perfectly timed by Drayden Van Dyke" was the winner of the Kilroe Mile.


I thought he got up also, but that one was super tight.

If I was a track announcer I'd probably err on the side "much too close to call" just to not disappoint fans that thought they had won because of my judgement, but it was a bold call, albeit wrong.