Meadowlands Contest

[OTM Al]

The meadowlands is running a contest that starts friday. The prizes are really nice and its free. Register at thebigm.com

1. Highest total bankroll based on pari-mutuel payouts from a $2.00 “Across the Board” wager ($2.00 to win, place and show) on your race selection

Grand Prize - $1,000 and a berth in the NTRA/DRF National Handicapping Championship at Bally’s –Las Vegas, January 2005 (includes hotel accommodations and round-trip airfare for two (2) on Continental Airlines.) Participants must be 21 or older to be eligible for Grand Prize (see eligibility section of rules for details)

Second Place - $500 and Continental Airlines round-trip tickets for two (2) anywhere in the continental United States (blackout restrictions apply).

Third Place - $250 and a 20” Sharp Electronics flat-screen LCD AQUOS television.

2. Bonus Prize - Most Number of Winners

$500 and Continental Airlines round-trip tickets for two (2) anywhere in the continental United States (blackout restrictions apply)

3. Bonus Prize - Most “Three-for-Three” Winning Days

$500 and a 20” Sharp Electronics flat-screen LCD AQUOS television

[cj]

Thanks for the heads up, both my wife and I entered. Looks simple enough, and you can't beat the price!

[OTM Al]

Sure. Trying to think of the optimal strategy on this one. You certainly can't go for the moon in all 3 picks as you have to hit the board at least once to move on. Can't decide if it would be better to play safe on one and go long on 2 or safe on 2 and long on 1. Maybe even alternate between both depending on the races they select.

[OTM Al]

Day 1 10/1

4th Race Stormy Roman
Like his back class in the G3s. Linesmakers seem to be going with speed here in Cottage and Tam's Terms. I expect the course to be a little moist with the rains, so figuring that's going to chew them up a bit.

7th Race Pies Prospect
I love Eddington, but he's starting to look like a money burner in regards to win betting. Solid underneath, but a bad play on top. Pies is the only other one in the field with both higher level back class and quality speed figs. Early speed duel may happen here too, which I think he can take advantage of

10th Race Commanding Creek
A year's layoff, but he is now 4 and going to play for that increased maturity factor. His figs before he left were better than the rest of the field and his works leading up to the race are consistant. Probably the longest shot of my plays but he may get hammered down before all said and done.

[cj]

Free PPs for the contest races if you sign up, just an FYI.

Contest selections for myself, wife:
4: Megoman, Stormy Roman
7: Eddington, Pollard's Vision
10: Orpington, Quietly Quick

[OTM Al]

I thought Pollards Vision was going to run in the Indiana Derby instead

[cj]

Originally posted by OTM Al
I thought Pollards Vision was going to run in the Indiana Derby instead

I better tell my wife, she can still change. Thanks!

[OTM Al]

I'd have a look anyway as I read that Pletcher was leaning that way. I hate getting saddled with chalk when your pick scratches out

[betchatoo]

My picks

4th Tam's Terms, Megoman

7th Swing forthe fences, Pies Prospect

10th Quietly Quick, Formal Commander

Good luck, guys

[OTM Al]

Day 2 10/2

Winnings: $27.60

Pretty good start. Stormy Roman just misses with a determined drive in the stretch and Pies Prospect holds off Eddington in the Pegasus. Man, that race ran just like I envisioned it. Wish I could do that more often. In the 10th, Commanding Creek gets a head in front in the stretch, but is overcome with about 70 yds to the wire. Fitness from layoff may have caught up with him, but a good run and will look for him in his next. My picks for today

Race 3: Dontcloseyoureyes. Real mediocre maiden here. Expect Daredevil Bull to get hammered in wagering here, but his big figs came in maiden claimers. This horses last was pretty much at this distance and was a good effort, being right on the lead before fading a couple lengths by the wire.

Race 8: Chirmoya: My longshot for the day. This horse was running very well earlier this year but had a fairly poor summer. She'll hit the board for sure if she can run back to anything close to that G2 effort where she beat a recently returned Storm Flag Flying. At 20-1 on the morning line, she's a must bet for me.

Race 9: Pady's Daisy: Going to eat chalk on this one. Pletcher 2yo with graded turf experience and by far best speed figs. Looks like you can't pick a whole entry, but you can be scratched into one if the entry is the favorite.

[Buddha]

My Day 2

Bankroll from day 1 is $30. I had Orpington who won the 10th, and I had the place horses in the other 2.

Today

Race 3

Dont want to pick him, but daredevil bull has figs that are better than the rest of the field.

Race 8

Umpateeble seems to be cycling upward and his best puts him a possibility to win.

Race 9

Like OTM Al, got to go with Padys Daisy. Just has a class edge, and fig edge.

[OTM Al]

Day 3: 10/5

Winnings $42.00

Not terrible second day, but could have been better. Dontcloseyoureyes edged out by 23-1 shot. Chirmoya scratched out so wasn't sure who I got, Electrical Carlita or the 1 horse (don't remember his name) as the tote was showing the 1 entry and the 7 as co-faves.....bet on the 1 but was stuck with the 7 who finished well back. Paddy's Daisy was the dead bang freebee I thought she'd be, so a first, a second and an off the board again

Race 4: Banshee Connection
Stared at this for a long time. This is a long race so had to discard a couple on showing a bit too much early. Settled on Banshee Connection in the end as I think he may give some value here. Crete will get hammered due to Bravo and I've seen him fail at low odds too many times. Creek's Shore just looks a little fishy dropping off a much higher claim price after a win.

Race 5: Kalookan Lady
Lot of speed here. Her last on turf looks like a mistake so she's back to the dirt. What caught my eye was her 8/9 run in the high level claimer at Saratoga. Looks a lot better than the recent tops of the others.

Race 8: Ten Treasures
Looks like I'm eating chalk again and he is vulnerable. His back class just looks a bit better than the rest. Probably wouldn't bet real money on him unless he was above 4-1, which he isn't going to be, but none of the others stand out to me.

[OTM Al]

Just a reminder to those of you playing this contest. Tuesday is a 1:10 start time instead of the 7:30 times wednesday-saturday

[IRISHLADSTABLE]

Race 4 (5) Banshee Connection

Race 5 (3) Kalookan Lady

Race 8 (8) Ten Treasures


Good Luck

Jimmy

:D :rolleyes: :D

[OTM Al]

Jeez Jimmy, that's scary. We picked exactly the same ones!

[IRISHLADSTABLE]

Originally posted by OTM Al
Jeez Jimmy, that's scary. We picked exactly the same ones!

OTM Al,
Great Minds think alike. Good Luck Today

Jimmy

[OTM Al]

Makes me feel a little better about my picks anyway. Don't think I would have even bet 2 of the 3 races by choice. Good luck to us!

[OTM Al]

Well Jimmy, it looks like we bought the farm on that one. Banshee Connection pressed the frontrunner way too early and faded late, Kalookan Lady couldn't handle the duel up front and stopped, and Ten Treasures never fired at all. My girlfriend is still alive........I will hear about this.

Good luck to everyone still alive. Let us know how you are doing

[cj]

Tough day for me as well, but I scratched into chalk hitting the board in the 8th, so still alive. My wife's horses won a couple today, I'd never hear the end of it either.

[Red Knave]

I think the key to this contest, because it's so long, is hitting the board every day. Forget about price.
I'm still alive too (sheesh, it's only 3 days). 1 winner today and about $40 grand total.

[betchatoo]

Originally posted by cj
Tough day for me as well, but I scratched into chalk hitting the board in the 8th, so still alive. My wife's horses won a couple today, I'd never hear the end of it either.

I'm guessing we had the same horse (#5) in the last race. I also scratched into staying alive

[Buddha]

i too am out. man, you think it would be easy to pick one horse from 3 races that could hit the board :)

[Red Knave]

I posted these for today

Horse Race # Result Payout
Falso Testimonio (ARG) 07 Pending
Our Rose 05 Pending
Smokieisabandit 03 Pending

[cj]

Myself...


Dice in a Vice 05 Pending
Wicklow Highlands 07 Pending
Rock Island Salami 03 Pending


and the wife...


Lifeisjustabeach 05 Pending
Falso Testimonio (ARG) 07 Pending
Gracie's Dancer 03 Pending

[Red Knave]

I'm watching the 6th for scratches so this might change, but here's what I posted today


Roth Ticket 05
Candy Verse 06
Amongtheprivileged 07

[cj]

Well, I'm out, wife is still in, its hell around this house today! She hasn't made her picks yet.

[Red Knave]

wife is still in, its hell around this house today!


:D

only had 1 winner yesterday ($3.60) so I dropped from 510th to 580th or so.

[cj]

The grayed out ones are out of the contest though!

[Red Knave]

Originally posted by cj
The grayed out ones are out of the contest though!

I thought it was just my browser getting the colors wrong.

[betchatoo]

Red Knave:

I think you and I are tied at that 580 spot.

Changes as of 3:30 Eastern
5 1 (POE) Guess I'm Lucky
6 10 Mecke's Princess
6 11 Silver Clipper
6 12 Lady In the Sun
6 13 Ms. Wolf
6 14 Shoot For The Loot
7 3 Amongtheprivileged

[Red Knave]

I think you and I are tied at that 580 spot.


Yeah, there are lots of ties.


Changes as of 3:30 Eastern
5 1 (POE) Guess I'm Lucky
6 10 Mecke's Princess
6 11 Silver Clipper
6 12 Lady In the Sun
6 13 Ms. Wolf
6 14 Shoot For The Loot
7 3 Amongtheprivileged

Much appreciated. Most days they don't have any changes up until after 6:00 PM!

This changes the 7th a bit. :)

[Red Knave]

but here's what I posted today

Roth Ticket 05
Candy Verse 06
Amongtheprivileged 07


I changed to Formal and Fancy in the 7th. I might have been smarter to let them scratch me onto the favorite.
These are ugly races.

[Red Knave]

I got scratched off my horse onto the favorite in the 7th yesterday. The fav was 2nd but there was no place/show wagering. :rolleyes:
Still had the winner in the 6th so I'm alive at 335. :eek:

Here's what I posted today. I have to post early.

Race 6 #2 Cockleshell
Race 7 #6 Balto Star
Race 9 #2 Upturn

[Crosley]

Not sure if another PA member is ahead of me but I've had some luck and am currently sitting in the 25th spot.

I'd be honored to carry the torch for PA and hang on as long as possibe:

Tonight...

4th - Dynantonia
6th - Call Me Moe
9th - Melody Of Colors

[Red Knave]

Originally posted by Crosley

4th - Dynantonia
6th - Call Me Moe
9th - Melody Of Colors Call me Moe has been scratched.

Here's my picks (I had Moe too)

4th - Dynantonia
6th - The Herc
9th - Melody Of Colors

[betchatoo]

I'm sitting chilly in 580th, waiting to make my big move. Oh, damn. I forgot the Big M is not kind to closers

My picks today


Dynantonia 04 Pending
Por Favor 06 Pending
Melody of Colors 09 Pending

[Crosley]

I'm losing ground... down to position 45.

Need some better paying ponies so here's tomorrow's selections:

4 - Clemson You 3-1
7 - Bulletthebluesky 8-1
8 - Chamce of War 6-1

I'm gonna move up considerably or bust...

[betchatoo]

Originally posted by Crosley
I'm losing ground... down to position 45.

Need some better paying ponies so here's tomorrow's selections:

4 - Clemson You 3-1
7 - Bulletthebluesky 8-1
8 - Chamce of War 6-1

I'm gonna move up considerably or bust...


I, on the other hand have flown up to position 495. Can you hear me flying up on your outside?

[cj]

My wife is still in, I've been out for a week.

Yesterday's results:


Horse Race # Result Payout
Zi Night 03 1 $13.20
Nationalistic (IRE) 08 1 $10.80
Dorst 07 1 $7.50


and today's picks:

Horse Race # Result Payout
Minister's Gift 04 Pending
Hero's Task 08 Pending
Top Bunk 07 Pending


Standing:

### Name Wins Place Show 3 for 3 Bankroll
382 cjmsgirl 6 7 1 1 $109.50




ps...What tough races today!!!

[OTM Al]

This contest is a bit harder than it seems. All it takes is a 3 race losing streak and you're done. My girlfriend went out last friday, but when she'd beaten me I think she lost interest......

[Red Knave]

Moved up to 161 after yesterday.

here's my guesses for today

Harry n' Zeke 04 (Entry)
Banshee King 07
Burdakin 08

Subject to change as post time approaches.

Interesting that all of us have different picks today.

[betchatoo]

My picks for today
Horse Race #
Clemson You 04
Top Bunk 07
Arteur 08

[Red Knave]

here's my guesses for today
Harry n' Zeke 04 (Entry)
Banshee King 07
Burdakin 08
I went off Harry n' Zeke after the other half of the entry scratched. Changed it to Seczone. I have no idea about this race so I'm trying for a price on a fairly well connected hoss.

:confused:

Luck to all.

[Red Knave]

Lost the first 2 by miles and nosed out of the last one for third.
Ouch. Dumb selections today.

Hope you other guys fare better.

Good luck.

[betchatoo]

Sorry you missed.

[Milleruszk]

After today's results I am number 33. $55.00 behind the leader. I have been picking one solid favorite and trying to score with the other two picks. Last couple of days I have not been able to connect with any of my shots. Because today's card was run during the day I had to make my picks last night. I did like one of the AE in the 8th race - Theartfulduchman but did not use him because I was not sure he would get in. Of course he won and paid $12.00. Good luck to all.

Tom:)

[betchatoo]

Must be gone tonight, so I made my picks early. Good luck to everyone still in

Horse Race # Result Payout
Wizard of Gold 09 Pending
Mr. Meso 07 Pending
Dusty Evening 06 Pending

[cj]

A nice 3 for 3 betcha, hope you are still alive. Saved by a scratch again last night, third time I believe. Only 464 people left, I'm really surprised so many have dropped already.

Anyway, here are tonight's selections. The goal here is to stay alive until 10 racing days are left, then really swing long.


Dr. Kashnikow 08 Pending
Oliver Street 10 Pending
Doctor Voodoo 07 Pending

[betchatoo]

Still hanging in there,sometimes just by a thread

my picks tonight

Golden Parachute 10 Pending
Doctor Voodoo 07 Pending
Host (CHI) 08 Pending

Good luck

[Crosley]

Good picking bet...

Can't seem to put together 3 in a row:

7 - Remuneration
8 - Tam's Terms
10- Press My Bet

9 picks posted and all different

[betchatoo]

Originally posted by cj
A nice 3 for 3 betcha, hope you are still alive. Saved by a scratch again last night, third time I believe. Only 464 people left, I'm really surprised so many have dropped already.

Anyway, here are tonight's selections. The goal here is to stay alive until 10 racing days are left, then really swing long.


Dr. Kashnikow 08 Pending
Oliver Street 10 Pending
Doctor Voodoo 07 Pending


Tremendous day. Congratulations!

[cj]

Thanks, this was a very nice way to wake up as I bet both the long ones before heading to bed.

[cj]

Wow, jumped from 400+ to 26th.

[sam i am]

Very nice CJ
two very good priced horses...glad you had real $ on them as well.

[sam i am]

CJ

I just went back to look at your numbers for the 2 winners for races at 10/15 at Med. I see how you can select oliver street in the 10th.

But in the 8th it looked wide open (even if you play against the obvious 1 and the 8) how did you land on the 7 , he was a definite contender, just wonder how you made the final determination.

thanks,
David

[cj]

Hey Sam,

What led me to Dr. K was that his running style. Lots of the other horses had competitive numbers as well as you mention. But, looking at those horses, I saw a lot of E, EP, and P type horses, and they had all been earning the good numbers in slow paced races. No way I could see a slow pace last night with so many of the good horses preferring to be up fairly close. The only horse who had been running fast early was Host, and I was pretty confident tossing him coming off a six month layoff and facing pressure if he chose to go early.

[sam i am]

Thanks CJ for the answer, with the scratch of the 5, the odds of the other contenders , and your answer it is clear as day.

Thanks again

[betchatoo]

Tonights picks fo me



Horse Race # Result Payout
Sparkling Blue 07 Pending
Whopaho 05 Pending
Cigno d'Oro 09 Pending

[cj]

I went chalky yesterday, just didn't like anything else, hit two winners, 22d place at the moment. I'll post Tuesday's picks once I make them.

[cj]

Tuesday afternoon picks:

Liquor Cabinet (IRE) 05 Pending
Sea Tales 08 Pending
Beautiful East 07 Pending

[betchatoo]

CJ:

I see you're doing a nice job of crawling up the ladder, up to 18 now. I'm only 300 spots behind. Every time I pick a 40-1 shot it runs like a 40-1 shot. Oh well. As long as I'm alive there's hope.

Good luck and go get 'em

[betchatoo]

Need to leave this afternoon

Tonights picks

Horse Race # Result Payout
Newlymintedpenny 06 Pending
Glory of Love 08 Pending
Sircharlesschnabel 09 Pending

[cj]

Still alive, been picking a lot of chalk. These off the turf races and short field, solid favorite races stink!

Hopefully the weekend will bring a chance to swing for the fences!

[Red Knave]

Originally posted by cj
... Hopefully the weekend will bring a chance to swing for the fences! CJ
I tried that. It didn't work. And no 2nd chances. ;)
Keep plugging. There's about a month still to go.
We, the fallen, are rooting for you and the others that remain.

[betchatoo]

tonights picks

Horse Race # Result Payout
Solitario 07 Pending
Nasheet 06 Pending
Ocean Drive 08 Pending

cj: if I read your figures right, Prussian Prince looks like he could be a standout in the 6th (I didn't play him cause of the jockey) Am I warm?

[Zaf]

Originally posted by cj
Still alive, been picking a lot of chalk. These off the turf races and short field, solid favorite races stink!

Hopefully the weekend will bring a chance to swing for the fences!

Red Knave is right , you haven't hit the 1/8 pole yet. Keep plugging , people will drop out. Keep Going !!

ZAFONIC

[cj]

I probably came across wrong, just looking for ONE bomb per day, but haven't seen one worth playing since hitting two on the same night last week. Hopefully, I'll know when the time is right!

[cj]

Originally posted by betchatoo
tonights picks

Horse Race # Result Payout
Solitario 07 Pending
Nasheet 06 Pending
Ocean Drive 08 Pending

cj: if I read your figures right, Prussian Prince looks like he could be a standout in the 6th (I didn't play him cause of the jockey) Am I warm?

We went with the same horse in the 6th!

[Crosley]

I'm creeping back up after my recent nose dive... 84


Ocean Drive 08
Solitario 07
War Storm 06

[betchatoo]

Originally posted by betchatoo
tonights picks

Horse Race # Result Payout
Solitario 07 Pending
Nasheet 06 Pending
Ocean Drive 08 Pending

cj: if I read your figures right, Prussian Prince looks like he could be a standout in the 6th (I didn't play him cause of the jockey) Am I warm?

Prussian Prince did win, damn it

[cj]

Sultry Cat 07 Pending
High Court (BRZ) 08 Pending
Nasheet 06 Pending


Snuck out with a 2d in the last race after two fourths, whew!

[cj]

A lot of eliminations last night, down to 268 remaining. I'm around 50th, but at least still alive! And quite a few ahead of me were eliminated last night, so they will be passed if I can stay alive.

You still alive betchatoo? Crosley?

[Crosley]

Wrong night to change strategy and use my 2nd choices hoping for bigger payoffs.

I'm out...

It was a good run and I did win the MNR contest Monday night so I'll spend my time reading Crushing The Cup and get ready for next week. Can't win them all, Good Luck.

[betchatoo]

Kind of embarassing. There are 268 people left and I'm at 272. But I did manage to stay alive. Sorry you missed Crosly. cj I saw how many just in front of you are out. Puts you in great striking position. As for me, I've got to pull a Silky Sullivan.

Is anyone else here old enough to remember that horse?

[Zaf]

Originally posted by Crosley

It was a good run and I did win the MNR contest Monday night so I'll spend my time reading Crushing The Cup and get ready for next week. Can't win them all, Good Luck.

[Zaf]

Someone gave me a copy of Crushing The Cup the last 2 years , It has some good info, but my problem is these guys pick 7 horses in each race and if a bomb wins they claim they crushed the race.

ZAFONIC

[cj]

I'm having trouble entering picks for today, tried from different computers and networks, so it appears to be a Big M site problem. Anyone else having problems?

[betchatoo]

Originally posted by cj
I'm having trouble entering picks for today, tried from different computers and networks, so it appears to be a Big M site problem. Anyone else having problems?

Yes. I just tried and it won't let me enter my selections

[Milleruszk]

Yep me too!

[cj]

FYI...Its working now!

[betchatoo]

Got them in

my picks today

Horse Race # Result Payout
Nolimosforyou 08 Pending
I Dare Billy 05 Pending
Loquacious Lover 09 Pending

Good luck to all

[cj]

DAMN!

I was so close to picking the 11 in the final, but chickened out and went with the 8 instead. Never thought I'd be unhappy to have the winner, but not picking this 11 could come back to haunt me as his place and show prices were easily better than my 7-2 winner.

Also had an even money winner in the 8th, out in the 5th.

[betchatoo]

I think it's a tough day today. here are my guesses

Horse Race # Result Payout
Duchess County 07 Pending
Pass the Puck 06 Pending
Tactical de Naskra 09 Pending

[cj]

I was totally scared yesterday, I had no feel for any of the races. I was lucky to stay in with two chalky thirds.

I have a good feeling about tonight's races. I didn't copy my picks, but I'll post how I did tomorrow. The field is dwindling!

[cj]

Was 2d, 3d, and 1st. Imagine I'll move up a few slots with the winner being 5-1. Can't imagine anyone would be eliminated yesterday unless they forgot to enter picks.

[betchatoo]

I got one first on a 5-2 shot and 2 fourths. Oh well, still alive

[Milleruszk]

Originally posted by cj
Was 2d, 3d, and 1st. Imagine I'll move up a few slots with the winner being 5-1. Can't imagine anyone would be eliminated yesterday unless they forgot to enter picks.

CJ, I believe you are in 21st place. I am .30 ahead of you in 20th place. Good luck the rest of the way!

Tom

[Zaf]

WOW GUYS , Pretty Cool :cool:

What is the Prize structure ?

ZAFONIC

[cj]

Originally posted by zafonic
WOW GUYS , Pretty Cool :cool:

What is the Prize structure ?

ZAFONIC

1. Highest total bankroll based on pari-mutuel payouts from a $2.00 “Across the Board” wager ($2.00 to win, place and show) on your race selection

Grand Prize - $1,000 and a berth in the NTRA/DRF National Handicapping Championship at Bally’s –Las Vegas, January 2005 (includes hotel accommodations and round-trip airfare for two (2) on Continental Airlines.) Participants must be 21 or older to be eligible for Grand Prize (see eligibility section of rules for details)

Second Place - $500 and Continental Airlines round-trip tickets for two (2) anywhere in the continental United States (blackout restrictions apply).

Third Place - $250 and a 20” Sharp Electronics flat-screen LCD AQUOS television.

2. Bonus Prize - Most Number of Winners

$500 and Continental Airlines round-trip tickets for two (2) anywhere in the continental United States (blackout restrictions apply)

3. Bonus Prize - Most “Three-for-Three” Winning Days

$500 and a 20” Sharp Electronics flat-screen LCD AQUOS television

[Zaf]

Good Luck Guys , Keep Going :) !!!

ZAFONIC

[betchatoo]

Still not confident. I guess it must have something to do with being in 197th. Todays best guess

Horse Race # Result Payout
Monsterinmyroom 10 Pending
Unforgettable Max 08 Pending
Hydrogen 09 Pending

[cj]

I reached a bit today, but not just to reach, I think they are better than the favorites. No ML favorites, one horse 20-1 on the ML...time will tell.

[betchatoo]

Got lucky. Scratched into a 2nd place in the 9th

[cj]

Bit the dust today. Good luck to the rest of you guys still alive!

[betchatoo]

And another one ites the dust. Good luck to any who are still in

[Milleruszk]

Still alive. I was lucky on Saturday. I had to put my picks in on Friday. Forecast was calling for rain and I hoped that the 8th race would be taken off the turf. I picked Cologny as MTO. Race remained on the turf and I was given the post time favorite who promptly ran up the track. My pick in the 5th race kept me alive.
Slipped back down to No. 27. Only 142 still alive. Good luck to all that are still alive. Going to have to swing for the fences soon!

Tom