Fox news makes you stupic

[ljb]

Here is an interesting graphic. Kinda shows how one can be made dumber by watching faux news.
http://www.philly.com/images/realcities/realcities/6924/47946393308.gif:D :D :D

[PaceAdvantage]

The poll is misleading. They have found WMD in Iraq. Just not a vast quantity.

[GameTheory]

It also implies they believe what they do because of what their news source is and not the other way around, which is more likely I think...

[JustRalph]

And the Fox News Crowd can damn sure spell "Stupid" instead of Stupic!

[ljb]

From PA
"The poll is misleading. They have found WMD in Iraq. Just not a vast quantity.

You must be one of them thar faux news watchers. :D :D :D

[ljb]

Jr,
Surely you can come up with something better then a typo.

[Tom]

The link between SH and terrorists is undenieable. It has been documented,

The link between Ljb and the truth has never been validated.
The link between Ljb and conciousness is still arguable.
:D

[Tom]

Originally posted by JustRalph
And the Fox News Crowd can damn sure spell "Stupid" instead of Stupic!

ROTFLMAO!

[ljb]

Tom,
Doesn't take much to make you laugh does it?
How about this: Republicans aren't smart they are stupic.

[ponyplayer]

The graph shows this was taken June-Sept 2003. Way before the Dan Rather screw-up...wonder what it would show today?:rolleyes:

[Tom]

Originally posted by ljb
Tom,
Doesn't take much to make you laugh does it?
How about this: Republicans aren't smart they are stupic.

No, no. You are always good for a laugh.
To think you would believe anyone could actually believe the crap you post is just hillarious. You are a very funny fellow.:D

[ljb]

Tom said
"To think you would believe anyone could actually believe the crap you post is just hillarious."
ROTFLMAO

[dav4463]

If you had to take a competency test before being allowed to vote, something along the lines of a combined IQ test plus a general understanding of the issues, and only those who passed were allowed to vote.... I would take any odds that the Republicans would win every election in a landslide.

[Equineer]

Originally posted by dav4463
If you had to take a competency test before being allowed to vote, something along the lines of a combined IQ test plus a general understanding of the issues, and only those who passed were allowed to vote.... I would take any odds that the Republicans would win every election in a landslide. I think the average voter for Republicans may have been more competent when the GOP was distinctly the minority party... before it embraced some of the kooky interest groups who would normally be found in extremist splinter parties if we had a multi-party system where a coalition is generally required to form a new administration.

Dogmatic beliefs limit the intellectual development of the GOP religious fundamentalists and the GOP racists disguised in states-rights clothing. Today, my guess is that a "fair and balanced" competency test would eliminate only a slightly greater overall percentage of votes for Democrats than votes for Republicans, where the actual test scores would reflect a Democratic majority at both ends of the spectrum.

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by Equineer
I think the average voter for Republicans may have been more competent when the GOP was distinctly the minority party... before it embraced some of the kooky interest groups who would normally be found in extremist splinter parties if we had a multi-party system where a coalition is generally required to form a new administration.

Dogmatic beliefs limit the intellectual development of the GOP religious fundamentalists and the GOP racists disguised in states-rights clothing. Today, my guess is that a "fair and balanced" competency test would eliminate only a slightly greater overall percentage of votes for Democrats than votes for Republicans, where the actual test scores would reflect a Democratic majority at both ends of the spectrum.

this post is so full of crap I will have to think about it while working today.......just to respond.

[Lefty]

EQ, would you care to list some of the kooky groups the Repubs embrace?
The Dems whole party is just a compilation of groups, ea. with their own agenda.

[Equineer]

Lefty,

All the kooks who demand that Republican candidates pass litmus tests on issues like abortion, prayers, genetic research, assault weapons, numerous environmental questions, and many equal rights issues.

Bush's latest litmus test was remaining passive while the assault weapons ban expired.

Democratic voting differs only by degree by virtue of single-issue constituencies that are not as effectively organized and unified.

At the policy level, after the votes are counted, both parties owe their souls to special interests that fund the populist campaigns designed to distract voters with the very kind of negative sensationalism that has dominated the current campaign.

[Tom]

Perhaps if the LIBERAL judges would actually enforce laws already on the books we not need to always be looking to pass new ones. Passing laws benefits no one if they are not enforced.
Renewing that law was a waste of time.
And wacko groups? Yikes! The dems are the homepage for idiots.com.
And litmus tests, what is wrong with that? I certainly do want to vote for someone who does not share my values. I am votin gfor people who SHARE my values. I understand the idea of having values and doing something about them is a foereign concept for Kerry people, but trust me, it a lot like liking a horse and then betting on it. Two related things, ya know?

[Lefty]

ya know, at the Repub conventions I have seen speakers who favor abortion and affirmative action but I have never seen opposing viewpoints at the Dem conventions. Dems are the party of litmus tests. Bush just didn't want Kerry to have to give up his own assault weapon he recenty was gifted.

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by Lefty
ya know, at the Repub conventions I have seen speakers who favor abortion and affirmative action but I have never seen opposing viewpoints at the Dem conventions. Dems are the party of litmus tests. Bush just didn't want Kerry to have to give up his own assault weapon he recenty was gifted.

Lefty..... I was thinking the same thing when I read Eq's post. Rudy G. and Zell Miller, and more.

[Lefty]

And 4 yrs ago, Colin Powell. Not only blves in abortion and affirmative action but is Secratary of State. Repubs are truly inclusive while Dems just give the idea lip service.

[ElKabong]

Originally posted by Lefty
And 4 yrs ago, Colin Powell. Not only blves in abortion and affirmative action but is Secratary of State. Repubs are truly inclusive while Dems just give the idea lip service.

Speaking of inclusive....

Has anyone seen a black guy or gal in a position of prominence in Kerry's campaign? I haven't seen one. Just the same old Clinton gang (all white) and a few other white dudes and dudettes close to Kerry.

Contrast that to W's admin. There are 5 people that are front and center most often. W, Cheney, Powell, Rice and Rummy....Two of those five are black, both unquestionably qualified.

No one (other than mud slinging kerrybots) can knock the qualifications of Rice or Powell. GWB did a great job of FINDING these two individuals to serve their country.

At what point does "black America" finally understand the dems are duping them?

I'd love to see Condi run in '08.

[hcap]

Faux News....?

ljb,

The question is
1- Actual smart viewers, who over time loose smartness, and/or brain cells due to the likes of O'reilly and Hannity?

Or

2- The "stupic" viewer who watches faux, and is therefore stupic to begin with? Faux would only be adding to the pre-existing state of confusion, instead of causing it.

I vote both!!


http://images.ucomics.com/comics/tmdow/2004/tmdow040923.gif

btw, from Ted Rall

TRIUMPH OF THE STULTOCRACY
Ted Rall

"Kerry doesn't know what the working-class people do; he hasn't done any physical labor all his life," Sharon Alfman, a 51-year-old cook in New Lexington, Ohio, told a New York Times reporter. It's true. Kerry is a rich boy. But then she added: "Bush's values are middle-class family values."

George W. Bush earned $727,000 last year. Estimates of his net worth range between $9 and $26 million. Middle class he most assuredly is not. Working class he never has been. Like fellow Skull and Bones member John Kerry, man of the people he never will be. But it matters that Sharon Altman thinks he is. Unless you too are a voter living in a swing state like Ohio, her vote counts more than yours.

Demonstrating that stupefying ignorance can be bipartisan, another Ohioan interviewed for the same article said she is against the war in Iraq because, like 42 percent of her fellow Americans, she thinks Iraq was behind 9/11: "We shouldn't be over there building them back up because they didn't build our towers back up." She is wrong on so many levels that it makes my brain hurt.

Both women are entitled to their unawareness. We can't pass a law to force them to read the paper. But neither of these people ought to force their fellow citizens to suffer the consequences of their being so uninformed. Voting should be a privilege earned by an intellectually engaged citizen, not a right given to any adult with a pulse.
_______

The fact that these yahoos are allowed to vote is an abomination. Their ill-considered ballots cancel or dilute those cast by those who do the heavy lifting that makes them good citizens: keeping abreast of current events, researching issues, studying candidates' positions.

In the Old South, literacy tests were used to disenfranchise blacks. Alternatively, a basic political literacy test should be used to ensure that anyone who picks ESPN over CNN--regardless of race or creed--stays home on Election Day. Prospective voters should be required to answer at least three of the following questions correctly; to give people a fair shot, the test should be published in newspapers a week before an election:

1. Who is the vice president?

2. What is your state capital?

3. Name one of the following: your governor, congressman or one senator.

4. What is the capital of the United States?

5. Name one federal cabinet-level department.

Of course, such a political literacy test would drastically reduce voter turnout. On the other hand, those who pass could take comfort in knowing that they're not competing against the 60 percent of Americans who think we've found Iraq's imaginary WMDs, or the 22 percent who "believe" that Saddam Hussein used such weapons against U.S. troops during the 2003 invasion.

[Equineer]

Originally posted by Lefty
And 4 yrs ago, Colin Powell. Not only blves in abortion and affirmative action but is Secratary of State. Repubs are truly inclusive while Dems just give the idea lip service. Both Powell and Rice are signs that the moderate Republicans have gotten the ear of Bush and his strategists. When the influence of the Moral Majority was at its zenith, Clinton's acceptance of prudent fiscal policies attracted GOP moderates, and these voters were called Clinton Republicans.

However, the Moral Majority crowd remains strong at the grass roots level and are entrenched within Republican machines in many states... where they block moderates from gaining the party's endorsement in entry-level politics.

Just as the Democrats experienced backlash within their party when LBJ's Great Society programs attracted zealots who veered towards socialism, a backlash against the excesses of the Moral Majority is taking place within the GOP.

Because they were not elected, you will hear claims that Powell and Rice are merely window dressing... so we will have to see what transpires. If Bush wins handily, we should begin to witness a changing of the guard in state and local levels of the GOP machine.

[Lefty]

No, the Repubs will always be the guardian of right to life and our other rights such as the right to bear arms. But other views are welcome. That's not so with the Dems.
And anyone like lbj and hcap and sec that thinks fair and balanced is stupid then you just show your leftist/socialist views and closed closed mind. Closed closed mind, kinda sounds like it coulda been a Hank Williams song, huh?
"Whu don't you go to Fox Fox news and open your closed closed mind" I think i've got the makings of a hit.

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by Equineer
However, the Moral Majority crowd remains strong at the grass roots level and are entrenched within Republican machines in many states... where they block moderates from gaining the party's endorsement in entry-level politics.

You keep harping on this moral majority crowd. Religious groups etc........Can you explain to me what the mindset or values of the moral majority are? At least in your opine. I have never met a Moral Majority member and I doubt you have. But you seem to be prescient and know what people are thinking. I am a stone cold athiest and share many of the values that I bet you assign the MM crowd.........

The problem you have is that you are making assumptions about certain groups and you think they are all alike just based on the fact that they are not like minded and aligned with you and the left. There are many types of people who do not think like the left. From that Amish guy who waved at me the other day, to the business owners and anti-government types who are sick of being constantly set upon by the left. From Hollywood and TV. From the Teachers union. From the Ultra-Liberal Academic types that hold Liberal Indoctrination in your Colleges. There are tons of reasons to hate the left. Don't tie them all up in one bag and think you can talk down to them.

[betchatoo]

Originally posted by JustRalph

The problem you have is that you are making assumptions about certain groups and you think they are all alike just based on the fact that they are not like minded and aligned with you and the left. There are many types of people who do not think like the left. From that Amish guy who waved at me the other day, to the business owners and anti-government types who are sick of being constantly set upon by the left. From Hollywood and TV. From the Teachers union. From the Ultra-Liberal Academic types that hold Liberal Indoctrination in your Colleges. There are tons of reasons to hate the left. Don't tie them all up in one bag and think you can talk down to them. [/B]

JR:

You make points I agree with (except, of course from the other side). I am tired of hearing (or reading, as the case may be) "all of you libs", or "you Dems think that," when in truth my views don't directly reflect anyone elses I know. In fact many of my views are what might be considered Republican. I have no compassion for terrorists (I don't care what led them to that course) or habitual criminals (if they can't behave in society remove them permanently) and I think every American should learn how to speak English properly. I believe in service to one's country and a strong military. And there are many who have these views yet will vote Democrat. So, to quote a real world conservative, don't tie them all up in one bag and think you can talk down to them.

[kenwoodallpromos]

Hussein was paying terrorists to kill outside Iraq; he did not account for a lot of WMD and during W's war Hussein claimed he had and threatened to use chemical weapons on our boys.
Meanwhile, Kerry and Edwards refused last Wed to vote up or down on the CIA nominee.
Just prior to 9-11 one of the 19 lived within 2 miles of my home in Alameda and schooled at Sequoiya flight school at Oaklland Airport.
The Alameda Mosque openly links its website to those wanting violence to covert the world to radical Islam. Kerry doesn't like the Patriot Act.

Sec- how stupic do you think I am?

[JustRalph]

Originally posted by betchatoo
JR:You make points I agree with (except, of course from the other side). I am tired of hearing (or reading, as the case may be) "all of you libs", or "you Dems think that," when in truth my views don't directly reflect anyone elses I know. In fact many of my views are what might be considered Republican. I have no compassion for terrorists (I don't care what led them to that course) or habitual criminals (if they can't behave in society remove them permanently) and I think every American should learn how to speak English properly. I believe in service to one's country and a strong military. And there are many who have these views yet will vote Democrat. So, to quote a real world conservative, don't tie them all up in one bag and think you can talk down to them.

Point taken!

[Tom]

There is not a lot of room left in that bag of nuts the Hcap, Sec, and Ljb live in. So, Bet, when we say "you libs" or "You morons," please remember we are refering to the axis of knuckleheads, the three stooges. Not responsible libs like You and andicap....guys with minds that process data and come to conclusions as opposed to getting emails from the DNC with "daily thinking points." It would actually be enlightening to debate issues with people of thoughts like you two than duel with the trolls, but we cannot escape them.

[boxcar]

ElKabong wrote:

I'd love to see Condi run in '08.

That would be a hoot! What an interesting race that would be ---two females -- one a white "mind in a blender" socialist vs. an intellectual, very together conservative.

Boxcar

[hcap]

Tom did you say knucklehead?
Compared to other demeaning comments you have leveled at us, that is positively warm hearted. You may have a lunatic exterior but down deep you are a really a softy wingnut.

From my earlier post....
How many members of the Bush Administration does it take to replace a light bulb?

6. One to arrange a photograph of Bush, dressed as a janitor, standing on a stepladder under the banner "Light Bulb Change Accomplished"

Or in other words a dimwit can eventually make his poppa proud

[hcap]

Write a caption for....

Or how 'bout

"Don't worry georgie you can campaign all you want. No stinkin hurricaine is gonna blow away my big bro.."

[Tom]

http://www.barbneal.com/wav/hnymnrs/hm07.wav

Gee, Hcap...Mr.Rall, like cartoons?
Try this one....