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sour grapes
09-26-2018, 09:04 AM
6 turf races will be reduced to the usual 4-5 horse field.Pick six should be easy to hit today with a minimal ticket though.

the little guy
09-26-2018, 10:42 AM
Five turf races.

NYRA is working to control the weather. Hopefully, with the help of our secret weapon Dr. Evil, we should have a solution soon. I'll keep you posted.

In the meantime, please put up your Pick-6 play. Some of us need the easy money

PaceAdvantage
09-26-2018, 10:55 AM
In the meantime, please put up your Pick-6 play. Some of us need the easy moneyCome to think of it, YEAH, I second this request...grapes, POST THEM UP.

Tom
09-26-2018, 11:11 AM
Yes, post them - for PARX.:rolleyes:

sour grapes
09-26-2018, 12:50 PM
4th-6
5th-7
6th-1&4
7th-7
8th-15
9th-7

spiketoo
09-26-2018, 02:04 PM
Just another day at NYRA - muddy and off.

Secondbest
09-26-2018, 02:07 PM
Five turf races.

NYRA is working to control the weather. Hopefully, with the help of our secret weapon Dr. Evil, we should have a solution soon. I'll keep you posted.

In the meantime, please put up your Pick-6 play. Some of us need the easy money

What does the weather have to do with only 5 horses entered in the first and 7 entered one scratch so 6 runners in the fourth.

the little guy
09-26-2018, 03:04 PM
What does the weather have to do with only 5 horses entered in the first and 7 entered one scratch so 6 runners in the fourth.

What does that have to do with what I was responding to?

Secondbest
09-26-2018, 04:05 PM
Ok your right. You mentioned the weather in response to off the turf.My bad.
I just want to know why we can't get bigger fields.

Afleet
09-26-2018, 04:56 PM
Race 4 :2: Golden Vale 4.90
Race 5 :4: Bon Raison 5.20
Race 6 :4: The Red Dude 4.80

Tom
09-26-2018, 05:45 PM
Can't even get many MTO horse anymore.


The solution is obvious - find tracks that have full fields.
3-5 pays the same at Pen as it does at Belmont.

No one needs suffer bad race cards these days.

WP1981
09-26-2018, 06:15 PM
DOA

spiketoo
09-26-2018, 06:18 PM
Just glanced at the results. Total of 34 horses ran in the P6 with EIGHT of them in the last race.

Secondbest
09-26-2018, 07:20 PM
Can't even get many MTO horse anymore.


The solution is obvious - find tracks that have full fields.
3-5 pays the same at Pen as it does at Belmont.

No one needs suffer bad race cards these days.

I know. But I like Belmont , I like going there it's my favorite track. I'm not going to go to bet 5 horse fields with a 3/5 and an even money shot in every race. They can't even get more than 6 horses for 100 grander. Now I look on the weekends only and don't go anymore. I just bet Gulf or woodbine mostly.

lamboguy
09-26-2018, 07:44 PM
my favorite races are off the turf. i wish every day was like today.

Thomas Roulston
09-30-2018, 11:00 AM
Can't even get many MTO horse anymore.


The solution is obvious - find tracks that have full fields.
3-5 pays the same at Pen as it does at Belmont.

No one needs suffer bad race cards these days.



This lame "3% to be divided equally among the remaining finishers" business isn't helping: In a 12-horse field, that's 3/7ths of 1% each to 6th through 12th, which in the cheapest races doesn't even pay the losing jockey mount fee. The shares for worse than 5th need to be increased at the expense of 2nd, 3rd and 4th. After all, they just cut the win purse from 60% to 55%, didn't they? In the Breeders' Cup, the shares for 2nd, 3rd and 4th are 17%, 9% and 5% (with 55% to 1st, 3% to 5th, and 1% each to 6th, 7th and 8th. This adds up to 92%; the remaining 8% is taken up with nominator's awards, etc.).

So why run your horse when you're going to be barely able to pay the jockey after the horse runs a minus 18 BSF if such a thing existed?

Guess OP is not aware of these ramifications.

Tom
09-30-2018, 12:00 PM
I think his point was they are carding too many turf races.

jay68802
09-30-2018, 12:20 PM
I think his point was they are carding too many races.

Slight change, but the same point.

Thomas Roulston
09-30-2018, 12:55 PM
Of course they were "saving" the turf as much as possible during the week for all the big stakes races on the turf yesterday - and there needs to be "truth in labeling" when it comes to the reported condition of the turf course: Even a Grade 1 turf stakes run at 1 1/2 miles that went in 2:30 and change is not indicative of a "soft" course. I remember when the 1986 running of the Sword Dancer at Belmont was run in 2:37 - and when the 1979 Washington DC International went in even slower than that!

If I didn't know better, I would say that they are reporting the turf course to be softer than it actually is to somehow make themselves look better for taking most of the races off the turf.