What Democrats Have Become - WSJ OpEd

[PaceAdvantage]

Sums my thoughts up on this whole thing quite nicely...thought I'd share...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-democrats-have-become-1537397973

Brett Kavanaugh is a casualty of an anything-goes political resistance.

Let us posit that the one thing not at issue here is the truth. As a matter of law and fact, Ms. Ford’s accusation can be neither proved nor disproved. This is as obvious now as it must have been when Dianne Feinstein and the other Democrats came into possession of this incident.

Surely someone pointed out that based on what was disclosed, this accusation could not be substantiated. To which the Democrats responded: So what? Its political value is that it cannot be disproved. They saw that six weeks before a crucial midterm election, the unresolvable case of Christine Blasey Ford would sit like a stalled hurricane over the entire Republican Party, drowning its candidates in a force they could not stop.

In #MeToo, which began in the predations of Harvey Weinstein, Democrats and progressives finally have found a weapon against which there seems to be no defense. It can be used to exterminate political enemies. If one unprovable accusation doesn’t suffice, why not produce a second, or third? It’s a limitless standard.

The Democrats’ broader strategy is: Delay the vote past the election; win the Senate by convincing suburban women that Republicans are implacably hostile to them; seize power; and—the point of it all—take down the Trump government.

This is the “resistance.” This is what Democrats have become. Resistance is a word and strategy normally found in a revolutionary context, which is precisely the argument made by the left to justify its actions against this presidency since the evening of Nov. 8, 2016. Anything goes. Whatever it takes. Brett Kavanaugh is not much more than a casualty of war.

[woodtoo]

Exactly what we deal with everyday. Not an Opposition Party but an enemy.

[boxcar]

Sums my thoughts up on this whole thing quite nicely...thought I'd share...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-democrats-have-become-1537397973

And the pure insanity to this entire fiasco is that many brain-dead people who are addicted to their sick political ideology will think precisely the way the writer of the piece essentially put it -- "can't prove he's not guilty", as though jurisprudence somehow requires us to presume guilt until the accused can prove otherwise. This is not only demented thinking, but it is dangerous to its very core because this kind of irrational thinking threatens to destroy tear the fabric to our constitutional republic.

[Burls]

You guys really gave me a good belly laugh with this one.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

The poor Repugs.
They have done their level best to play fair, never putting Party before Country, and just look at the way the Dims are treating them.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

It's ... it's ... it's downright unconscionable!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

After leaving a seat on the Supreme Court open for 422 days - yes, a year and 57 days.
After refusing to even meet with Obama appointee Merrick Garland for eight entire months before the November election,
Senate Repugs are deeply hurt by the uncooperative spirit of the Dims.

:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

"Not an Opposition Party but an enemy."

The Repugs would never do something like that!
Good Gracious, No!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol:

Let's go back to November 2008.
Here’s John Boehner, Republican House Leader, at the time, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda:
“We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

And who can forget Senator Mitch McConnell's stirring words?
“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

Yet we read a 2018 op-ed in the WSJ like this.

"This is the “resistance.” This is what Democrats have become. Resistance is a word and strategy normally found in a revolutionary context, which is precisely the argument made by the left to justify its actions against this presidency since the evening of Nov. 8, 2016. Anything goes. Whatever it takes. Brett Kavanaugh is not much more than a casualty of war."

Poor Brett!
Tell it to Merrick Garland.

:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[PaceAdvantage]

Republicans don't NEED cooperation from Dems...so they're not crying about that. Bad point.

[Tom]

This from Burls, who has standards so low that nothing more than I am sorry from Louie CK is enough for him go sit around and laugh with known, admitted, and RECENT woman predator.

No problem the apology was not accepted by the victims.
Puts his little tirade in perspective.

The women never really matter to the left.
Never.

Consider the source. :lol::lol::lol:

Would you let your daughter alone around these guys?
Uncle Billy's babysitting?

[Burls]

This from Burls, who has standards so low that nothing more than I am sorry from Louie CK is enough for him go sit around and laugh with known, admitted, and RECENT woman predator.

No problem the apology was not accepted by the victims.
Puts his little tirade in perspective.

The women never really matter to the left.
Never.

Consider the source. :lol::lol::lol:

Would you let your daughter alone around these guys?
Uncle Billy's babysitting?
It's a good thing you're here to point all of this out, Tom.

[Buckeye]

I won't stoop to argue about who loves women more, or men for that matter.

See how easy that was?

[Clydepuckett]

Burls

Tell me how many disruptions were encountered in tha Kagan and Sotomayor hearings.

Now tell me how many arrests were made in those hearings.

Voted in with 63 & 68 votes respectively, in a time of filibuster.

70 disruptions and 63 arrests in the Kavanaugh hearing.

So, tell me again about "Repug" resistance.

Thanks for playing.

[horses4courses]

Burls

Tell me how many disruptions were encountered in tha Kagan and Sotomayor hearings.

Now tell me how many arrests were made in those hearings.

Voted in with 63 & 68 votes respectively, in a time of filibuster.

70 disruptions and 63 arrests in the Kavanaugh hearing.

So, tell me again about "Repug" resistance.

Thanks for playing.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnrJdQZW4AErLbj.jpg:small

[Burls]

Burls

Tell me how many disruptions were encountered in tha Kagan and Sotomayor hearings.

Now tell me how many arrests were made in those hearings.

Voted in with 63 & 68 votes respectively, in a time of filibuster.

70 disruptions and 63 arrests in the Kavanaugh hearing.

So, tell me again about "Repug" resistance.

Thanks for playing.
How many disruptions were there in the Merrick Garland hearing?
Oh yeah, none, because there wasn't one.

Then there's the shameless gerrymandering by the Repugs.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-congressional-map-is-historically-biased-toward-the-gop/

The Congressional Map Has A Record-Setting Bias Against Democrats
And it’s not just 2018.

So don't talk to me about what good sports the Repugs have been.
By their actions, the Repugs have forfeited any right to criticize the actions of the Dims.

[woodtoo]

Garland is so yesterday. I've forgotten him .

[davew]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnrJdQZW4AErLbj.jpg:small

748 days before next presidential election


and over 200 arrested at hearings over the multiple days


you can't make up your own truths

[woodtoo]

748 days before next presidential election


and over 200 arrested at hearings over the multiple days


you can't make up your own truths


Oh yes they can and do. And have the behemoth Enemedia to show the way.

[Tom]

Well, Burls uses a know woman abuser as an avatar - FAR worse the Confederate flag, IMHO.

But he does prove our point about how the left has zero respect for women and just use them.

Thanks Burls.....honesty is always appreciated.

[Burls]

Well, Burls uses a know woman abuser as an avatar - FAR worse the Confederate flag, IMHO.

But he does prove our point about how the left has zero respect for women and just use them.

Thanks Burls.....honesty is always appreciated.
You know that isn't true, Tom.
Unlike, your hero Doofus Drumph, Louis CK was man enough to acknowledge that he did wrong and publicly apologized for it.
He stayed away from the public eye and is now attempting to get his life together.
There is nothing wrong with that.

Doofus Drumph, however, has assaulted multiple woman.
Why don't you Repugs do the right thing and refuse to support Drumph until he acknowledges and publicly apologizes for his wrongdoing?
Hmmmmm
I thought so.

[Burls]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DnrJdQZW4AErLbj.jpg:small
Sorry H4C, apparently, these OBJECTIVE FACTS are 'non-facts' in Repug LaLa Land.

[Tom]

You know that isn't true, Tom.
Unlike, your hero Doofus Drumph, Louis CK was man enough to acknowledge that he did wrong and publicly apologized for it.
He stayed away from the public eye and is now attempting to get his life together.
There is nothing wrong with that.

Doofus Drumph, however, has assaulted multiple woman.
Why don't you Repugs do the right thing and refuse to support Drumph until he acknowledges and publicly apologizes for his wrongdoing?
Hmmmmm
I thought so.

Did he apologize to the WOMEN?
A public apology is meaningless.
But keep on telling yourself you are right here.
Harvey would be proud of you.

[JustRalph]

Who did Trump “assault?”

[Greyfox]

Who did Trump “assault?”

Vince McMahon!:)

[FantasticDan]

Who did Trump “assault?”

What?? Trump accused of sexual misconduct?? Big news to Ralph :lol: :bang:

Here's a list of some of the lying bitches:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-claims-women-how-many-groping-accused-us-president-a8091581.html

[Burls]

Did he apologize to the WOMEN?
A public apology is meaningless.
But keep on telling yourself you are right here.
Harvey would be proud of you.
Since you refuse to consider taking your hero Doofus Drumph to task for doing far worse things than Louis CK, I can't take your comments seriously, Tom.

[chrisl]

Since you refuse to consider taking your hero Doofus Drumph to task for doing far worse things than Louis CK, I can't take your comments seriously, Tom.

Versus someone who has a bromance with Louis CK...Okay

[Tom]

Garland is so yesterday. I've forgotten him .

Didn't he sing Over the Rainbow?

[Tom]

Trump is not the one using women here.
That would be the democrats and their fanboys.

The Whatabout Club.

[MargieRose]

Since you refuse to consider taking your hero Doofus Drumph to task for doing far worse things than Louis CK, I can't take your comments seriously, Tom.
Clean up your disgusting name-calling rhetoric, Burls; lest you become as irrelevant as another disgusting name-calling character on here.

[Tom]

I am sure he doesn't take my comments seriously.
I doubt he even understand them! :pound::pound::pound:

He He He man

[Tom]

What?? Trump accused of sexual misconduct?? Big news to Ralph :lol: :bang:

Here's a list of some of the lying bitches:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-claims-women-how-many-groping-accused-us-president-a8091581.html

Let me know how the FBI investigations come out! :headbanger:

[JustRalph]

What?? Trump accused of sexual misconduct?? Big news to Ralph :lol: :bang:

Here's a list of some of the lying bitches:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-sexual-assault-allegations-claims-women-how-many-groping-accused-us-president-a8091581.html

Funny you would have that list handy......:lol:

So he walked into a dressing room full of “half naked women” and you consider that assault?

Sounds like a cad

An inartful pursuer of women but i don’t see any police reports....

Nobody said he’s an angel......

[JustRalph]

Since you refuse to consider taking your hero Doofus Drumph to task for doing far worse things than Louis CK, I can't take your comments seriously, Tom.

Louis CK walked into a room, sat down in a chair and proceeded to masterbate in front of a room full of women. He did this multiple times in front of his employees. He expressed his loins in front of women on multiple occasions and then continued business related meetings.

I’m not sure an awkward kiss or come on outranks that on any pervert scale......but I’m sure it’s worth debate

[davew]

Sorry H4C, apparently, these OBJECTIVE FACTS are 'non-facts' in Repug LaLa Land.

how many days until the next presidential election? or are you talking about some primary?

[Burls]

He expressed his loins in front of women on multiple occasions and then continued business related meetings.
"Expressed his loins"?
Ralph, your colorful language is making some of us blush.
:lol:

[AndyC]

.....Poor Brett!
Tell it to Merrick Garland......

Remind me again of all the unsubstantiated claims made about Garland that could stain his life forever. Was it wrong to use a rule named after Joe Biden?

[Burls]

Louis CK walked into a room, sat down in a chair and proceeded to masterbate in front of a room full of women. He did this multiple times in front of his employees. He expressed his loins in front of women on multiple occasions and then continued business related meetings.

I’m not sure an awkward kiss or come on outranks that on any pervert scale......but I’m sure it’s worth debate

Doofus Drumph has been accused of a little more than an awkward kiss.
Like what? I hear you say.
I'm glad you asked that question.

1 Accusations filed in court against Trump
1.1 Ivana Trump (1989)
1.2 Jill Harth (1992)
1.3 Summer Zervos (2007)

4 Public allegations of unwanted physical contact since 2016
4.1 Jessica Leeds (1980s)
4.2 Kristin Anderson (1990s)
4.3 Cathy Heller (1997)
4.4 Temple Taggart McDowell (1997)
4.5 Karena Virginia (1998)
4.6 Mindy McGillivray (2003)
4.7 Rachel Crooks (2005)
4.8 Natasha Stoynoff (2005)
4.9 Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006)
4.10 Jessica Drake (2006)
4.11 Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
4.12 Cassandra Searles (2013)

5 Allegations of pageant dressing room visits
5.1 Miss Teen USA contestants
5.2 Bridget Sullivan (2000)
5.3 Tasha Dixon (2001)
5.4 Unnamed contestants (2001)
5.5 Samantha Holvey (2006)

And then, of course, there's the "pussy grabbing" admission in the Billy Bush interview.

To then hear someone criticizing Louis CK, who has admitted what he has done and apologized for it, while applauding Drumph at the same time.
Sad ... that's all I can say, Sad. ...

[chadk66]

Doofus Drumph has been accused of a little more than an awkward kiss.
Like what? I hear you say.
I'm glad you asked that question.

1 Accusations filed in court against Trump
1.1 Ivana Trump (1989)
1.2 Jill Harth (1992)
1.3 Summer Zervos (2007)

4 Public allegations of unwanted physical contact since 2016
4.1 Jessica Leeds (1980s)
4.2 Kristin Anderson (1990s)
4.3 Cathy Heller (1997)
4.4 Temple Taggart McDowell (1997)
4.5 Karena Virginia (1998)
4.6 Mindy McGillivray (2003)
4.7 Rachel Crooks (2005)
4.8 Natasha Stoynoff (2005)
4.9 Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006)
4.10 Jessica Drake (2006)
4.11 Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
4.12 Cassandra Searles (2013)

5 Allegations of pageant dressing room visits
5.1 Miss Teen USA contestants
5.2 Bridget Sullivan (2000)
5.3 Tasha Dixon (2001)
5.4 Unnamed contestants (2001)
5.5 Samantha Holvey (2006)

And then, of course, there's the "pussy grabbing" admission in the Billy Bush interview.

To then hear someone criticizing Louis CK, who has admitted what he has done and apologized for it, while applauding Drumph at the same time.
Sad ... that's all I can say, Sad. ...what does all that tell you? Tells me that nobody that voted for Trump gives a rats ass about all that and nothing has changed since. So it's meaningless.

[Burls]

what does all that tell you? Tells me that nobody that voted for Trump gives a rats ass about all that and nothing has changed since. So it's meaningless.
Ummm, Yeah!
That's the problem.
Slightly left than half of the voters aren't at all concerned about voting for someone who has a history of treating women in demeaning ways.
That's not meaningless.
it's downright revolting.
it's a sign of moral decay in the populace.
That's what all that tells me.

[rastajenk]

Clinton

[ElKabong]

Ummm, Yeah!
That's the problem.
Slightly left than half of the voters aren't at all concerned about voting for someone who has a history of treating women in demeaning ways.
That's not meaningless.
it's downright revolting.
it's a sign of moral decay in the populace.
That's what all that tells me.

Pay attention. Thirty states or so voted for him because the best the DNC could muster up was Hilary Clinton. We (independents) had a choice. Yours was more disgusting.

If you can't comprehend that, then go away and do your best Louis CK impression and whack off in front of some people. Loser.

[Clydepuckett]

How many disruptions were there in the Merrick Garland hearing?
Oh yeah, none, because there wasn't one.

Then there's the shameless gerrymandering by the Repugs.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-congressional-map-is-historically-biased-toward-the-gop/

The Congressional Map Has A Record-Setting Bias Against Democrats
And it’s not just 2018.

So don't talk to me about what good sports the Repugs have been.
By their actions, the Repugs have forfeited any right to criticize the actions of the Dims.

Non responsive counselor.

My question was regarding the confirmation hearings of Kagan and Sotomayor.

Be juvenile all you care to be, but a simple answer would suffice.

[TJDave]

Pay attention. Thirty states or so voted for him because the best the DNC could muster up was Hilary Clinton. We (independents) had a choice. Yours was more disgusting.

That was then.

Anyone who still believes that Hillary was more disgusting is either:

Delusional, ignorant of the facts, or, has an agenda.

Hillary is a throughly disgusting person but compared to Trump...She’s bush league.

[fast4522]

Ummm, Yeah!
That's the problem.
Slightly left than half of the voters aren't at all concerned about voting for someone who has a history of treating women in demeaning ways.
That's not meaningless.
it's downright revolting.
it's a sign of moral decay in the populace.
That's what all that tells me.

What is sad is you, no single payer for the rest of your life.
Acting like you care about any of those who try to get off the rich and privileged , lets watch how this plays out. They could not knock down Clarence Thomas, what makes you think they will be successfull here? Hit jobs on character because it will send socialism into the stone age.

[Clydepuckett]

Ummm, Yeah!
That's the problem.
Slightly left than half of the voters aren't at all concerned about voting for someone who has a history of treating women in demeaning ways.
That's not meaningless.
it's downright revolting.
it's a sign of moral decay in the populace.
That's what all that tells me.

Slightly less than half the voters chose Hillary Clinton.

HTH

[davew]

That was then.

Anyone who still believes that Hillary was more disgusting is either:

Delusional, ignorant of the facts, or, has an agenda.

Hillary is a throughly disgusting person but compared to Trump...She’s bush league.

or believes in the rules set by the law and constitution, and knowingly voting someone in with such a disregard for them would kill the country.

[rastajenk]

or believes in the rules set by the law and constitution, and knowingly voting someone in with such a disregard for them would kill the country.That's my "agenda" and I plan on sticking to it.

[PaceAdvantage]

That was then.

Anyone who still believes that Hillary was more disgusting is either:

Delusional, ignorant of the facts, or, has an agenda.

Hillary is a throughly disgusting person but compared to Trump...She’s bush league.Hillary's brand of disgusting is way more insidious...so I will continue to disagree with you there.

[Tom]

Louis CK walked into a room, sat down in a chair and proceeded to masterbate in front of a room full of women. He did this multiple times in front of his employees. He expressed his loins in front of women on multiple occasions and then continued business related meetings.

I’m not sure an awkward kiss or come on outranks that on any pervert scale......but I’m sure it’s worth debate

But he apologized to Burls, so it is ok.
Damn if the WOMEN accepted his apology.

[Tom]

Pay attention. Thirty states or so voted for him because the best the DNC could muster up was Hilary Clinton. We (independents) had a choice. Yours was more disgusting.

If you can't comprehend that, then go away and do your best Louis CK impression and whack off in front of some people. Loser.

And it should be noted that Hillary NEVER alleged unwanted sexual contact from anyone.........:pound::pound::pound::pound:

[Burls]

Hillary is a throughly disgusting person but compared to Trump...She’s bush league.
Wow!
Finally, a claim I agree with completely.

[Burls]

But he apologized to Burls, so it is ok.
Damn if the WOMEN accepted his apology.The important point here is: Quit acing like you are so concerned about these women, Tom.
Your continued support of Doofus Drumph tell us all we need to know.

[Burls]

And it should be noted that Hillary NEVER alleged unwanted sexual contact from anyone.........:pound::pound::pound::pound:Wow!
Two posts I agree with in ONE day.
Amazing!

[ReplayRandall]

Wow!
Finally, a claim I agree with completely.


When all is said and done, Trump will be found guilty of being....Heterosexual.

[PaceAdvantage]

The left despises old, white, rich, heterosexual men...so there's that...

[thaskalos]

When all is said and done, Trump will be found guilty of being....Heterosexual.

Funny. Bill Clinton was discovered to be a heterosexual too...but our group here sorta held that against him. :confused:

[ReplayRandall]

Funny. Bill Clinton was discovered to be a heterosexual too...but our group here sort of held that against him. :confused:

Didn't Bill serve two full terms?....I think he did....Next.

[Tom]

Funny. Bill Clinton was discovered to be a heterosexual too...but our group here sorta held that against him. :confused:

He did far worse than Kav didn't do.
Gets a full pass because he was a democrat.
His wife waged WAR on every women who stood up to him.
Gets a full pass.

Some ditz who as so drunk she has no idea where she was or with who and makes an unsubstantiated claim against K and then delays testifying while being given EVERY consideration to do so, and K is the bad guy here.

Total BS.
The only time the women matters is when it convenient for them.

[thaskalos]

Didn't Bill serve two full terms?....I think he did....Next.

Would you be interested in a little bet on whether TRUMP will serve out two terms? I might be able to offer you attractive odds...:coffee:

[ReplayRandall]

Would you be interested in a little bet on whether TRUMP will serve out two terms? I might be able to offer you attractive odds...:coffee:


Didn't imply he would....nor do I think he will, either.

[hcap]

Didn't imply he would....nor do I think he will, either.There is considerable doubt he will make it thru even one.:popcorn::popcorn:

[Tom]

Among some.
But if he doesn't....

1. We already won
2. and cashed in
3. Pence

:pound::pound::pound:

[hcap]

Among some.
But if he doesn't....

1. We already won
2. and cashed in
3. Pence

Yeah, we have already heard you whine this nonsense as you frantically whistle past the graveyard.

Try to stay on pitch as your fat ass cry-baby goes down.

[classhandicapper]

Would you be interested in a little bet on whether TRUMP will serve out two terms? I might be able to offer you attractive odds...:coffee:

I haven't changed my view.

I said before the election that whoever took the presidency 2016 was inheriting an economic and market bubble that grew under the Obama administration as a result of easy money from the Fed and massive deficits in Washington.

Bubbles like that always pop. The downside is typically related to the size of the bubble. The bigger it was the worse the downside.

So my prediction was that whoever won might actually be the loser. He/she was going to get blamed for the debacle that's going to follow, get thrown out of office in the next election, and do a lot of damage to their party.

The only thing that has changed is that Trump has been massively better than I expected for markets.

1. The tax breaks were huge and automatically increased the value of virtually every business in America, especially those with billions of dollars overseas that can now bring it home to invest in the US.

2. The cuts to regulations are improving investment and economic growth.

3. The trade frictions are causing uncertainty and fear mongering, but imo ultimately they will be resolved and make things better for US workers and businesses because the US is going to take global market share back.

All these things have enhanced value. At the same time, investors have understood that and bid up prices. So they are still very high despite all the value he has created. The thing is, we are almost 2 years into his term now. If he has any more tricks up in sleeve in terms trade deals and other value creating measures it's now conceivable that I may be right about the it all ending badly but wrong on the timing by enough that it could be delayed until after the next election.

I don't exactly how that changes the odds, but contrary to perceptions, his chances now (however low they may be), are better than they were the night he got elected when I gave him almost no chance. He may not be in the middle of a deep bear market and recession like I expected.

[Burls]

Non responsive counselor.

My question was regarding the confirmation hearings of Kagan and Sotomayor.

Be juvenile all you care to be, but a simple answer would suffice.
I explained why the answer I gave was more appropriate given the cherry-picking question you asked.

[Burls]

1. The tax breaks were huge and automatically increased the value of virtually every business in America, especially those with billions of dollars overseas that can now bring it home to invest in the US.
Good Post CHC.
I agree with everything you said except this one part.
Instead of going to wage increases for the working person - as the Great Orange Leader repeatedly insisted - the tax breaks were largely spent on corporate stock buy-backs of shares, which has inflated the stock market bubble even more.
Those businesses are no more valuable than they were earlier, there are just fewer shares outstanding.
Trump has been a con man all his life and I too am surprised he has made it as far as he has.
But, alas, I don't think the near-term economic future bodes well for anyone.