View Full Version : California’s poverty rate is still the highest in the nation
Andy Asaro
09-13-2018, 06:16 AM
https://twitter.com/DRUDGE_REPORT/status/1040068039926894592
boxcar
09-13-2018, 07:28 AM
Couldn't have anything to do with the illegals in the fine sovereign state of Kalifornia, could it?
Kalifornia has attracted a permanent underclass with the goal of expanding and solidifying a permanent Dem(onized) voting block. Brown and his horde of comrades must be in a permanent state of orgasm because this is every leftist's political dream. :coffee:
Andy, speaking as a citizen of NYS, I wish to inform you that we shall accept your challenge. We will take your title. We will crush you. We will embarrass you. :rant::rant::rant:
PaceAdvantage
09-13-2018, 09:56 AM
I think it's because they are forced to give red states all those tax dollars...or something like that....
You know...the whole "woe is me" thing. Pay out more than they take in...blah blah blah...all those backwards red states suck in too many fed $$$....That will be part of the blame, anyway. Always is...
Andy Asaro
09-13-2018, 01:12 PM
People who vote for Democrats are asking this to happen to their states. It's inevitable with crazies making policy.
Andy Asaro
10-02-2018, 10:07 AM
https://twitter.com/VeilIgnorance/status/1046817459506896896
horses4courses
10-02-2018, 10:45 AM
How are the homeless and poverty rates trending in North Dakota these days?
Ehhemmm....this just in......homeless people of all races tend to head for warmer climates
and places where they may actually be treated with some dignity and compassion.
California is doing, and will continue to do, just fine.
Thanks for your genuine concern, though.
boxcar
10-02-2018, 10:49 AM
How are the homeless and poverty rates trending in North Dakota these days?
Ehhemmm....this just in......homeless people of all races tend to head for warmer climates
and places where they may actually be treated with some dignity and compassion.
California is doing, and will continue to do, just fine.
Thanks for your genuine concern, though.
Are they still giving away free poop maps to the tourists in Frisco? :coffee:
Poop of the STARS! maps.......:pound::pound::pound:
Not quite.
US States By Poverty Rate
Mississippi has the highest poverty rate in the US at 21.9% while New Hampshire has the lowest at 9.2%.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/us-states-by-poverty-rate.html
US State Poverty Rate (by Household Income)
1 Mississippi 21.90%
2 New Mexico 20.60%
3 Louisiana 19.90%
4 Alabama 19.20%
5 Kentucky 19.00%
6 Arkansas 18.70%
7 Georgia 18.40%
8 District of Columbia 18.40%
9 West Virginia 18.30%
10 Tennessee 18.20%
11 Arizona 18.20%
12 South Carolina 17.90%
13 Texas 17.20%
14 North Carolina 17.20%
15 Oklahoma 16.60%
16 Florida 16.60%
17 Oregon 16.40%
18 California 16.40%
19 Michigan 16.20%
20 New York 15.90%
21 Ohio 15.80%
22 Missouri 15.50%
23 Nevada 15.40%
24 Montana 15.20%
25 Indiana 15.20%
26 United States (country as a whole) 14.80%
27 Rhode Island 14.80%
28 Idaho 14.80%
29 Illinois 14.30%
30 South Dakota 14.10%
31 Maine 14.00%
32 Pennsylvania 13.60%
33 Kansas 13.50%
34 Wisconsin 13.20%
35 Washington 13.20%
36 Delaware 13.00%
37 Nebraska 12.30%
38 Iowa 12.30%
39 Vermont 12.20%
40 Colorado 12.10%
41 Virginia 11.80%
42 Utah 11.80%
43 Massachusetts 11.70%
44 Hawaii 11.50%
45 Minnesota 11.40%
46 Alaska 11.40%
47 North Dakota 11.10%
48 New Jersey 11.10%
49 Connecticut 10.80%
50 Wyoming 10.60%
51 Maryland 10.40%
52 New Hampshire 9.20%
mostpost
10-02-2018, 01:57 PM
Not quite.
US States By Poverty Rate
Mississippi has the highest poverty rate in the US at 21.9% while New Hampshire has the lowest at 9.2%.
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/us-states-by-poverty-rate.html
US State Poverty Rate (by Household Income)
1 Mississippi 21.90%
2 New Mexico 20.60%
3 Louisiana 19.90%
4 Alabama 19.20%
5 Kentucky 19.00%
6 Arkansas 18.70%
7 Georgia 18.40%
8 District of Columbia 18.40%
9 West Virginia 18.30%
10 Tennessee 18.20%
11 Arizona 18.20%
12 South Carolina 17.90%
13 Texas 17.20%
14 North Carolina 17.20%
15 Oklahoma 16.60%
16 Florida 16.60%
17 Oregon 16.40%
18 California 16.40%
19 Michigan 16.20%
20 New York 15.90%
21 Ohio 15.80%
22 Missouri 15.50%
23 Nevada 15.40%
24 Montana 15.20%
25 Indiana 15.20%
26 United States (country as a whole) 14.80%
27 Rhode Island 14.80%
28 Idaho 14.80%
29 Illinois 14.30%
30 South Dakota 14.10%
31 Maine 14.00%
32 Pennsylvania 13.60%
33 Kansas 13.50%
34 Wisconsin 13.20%
35 Washington 13.20%
36 Delaware 13.00%
37 Nebraska 12.30%
38 Iowa 12.30%
39 Vermont 12.20%
40 Colorado 12.10%
41 Virginia 11.80%
42 Utah 11.80%
43 Massachusetts 11.70%
44 Hawaii 11.50%
45 Minnesota 11.40%
46 Alaska 11.40%
47 North Dakota 11.10%
48 New Jersey 11.10%
49 Connecticut 10.80%
50 Wyoming 10.60%
51 Maryland 10.40%
52 New Hampshire 9.20%
The top sixteen states on your list are red states. As I am sure you are aware.
Not only is AA cherry picking by citing poverty rate, he is citing a particular aspect of poverty rate.
Median income tells us much more about how a state is doing as a whole. In median income, California ranks ninth. The only red.state which ranks higher is Alaska. The bottom TWENTY ONE states in median income are RED STATES .
The top sixteen states on your list are red states. As I am sure you are aware.
Not only is AA cherry picking by citing poverty rate, he is citing a particular aspect of poverty rate.
Median income tells us much more about how a state is doing as a whole. In median income, California ranks ninth. The only red.state which ranks higher is Alaska. The bottom TWENTY ONE states in median income are RED STATES .Education in red states is even worse.
The 10 most and least educated states in 2018
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/23/the-10-most-and-least-educated-states-in-2018.html
Check out the 10 least educated states in the country
41. New Mexico
Total score: 36.11
42. Oklahoma
Total score: 35.58
43. Tennessee
Total score: 35.52
44. Nevada
45. Kentucky
Total score: 31.80
46. Alabama
Total score: 31.33
47. Arkansas
Total score: 27.18
48. Louisiana
Total score: 22.96
49. West Virginia
Total score: 21.71
50. Mississippi
Total score: 21.06
mostpost
10-02-2018, 02:40 PM
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/economy
According to this, California has the fourth best economy in the country.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings/economy
According to this, California has the fourth best economy in the country.
And the highest number of street-turds in all 58 states! :eek:
And the highest number of street-turds in all 58 states! :eek:You gents use apparently bogus info.
These five states have seen the most rapid increases in homelessness over the past decade
https://www.salon.com/2018/03/03/these-five-states-have-seen-the-most-rapid-increases-in-homelessness-over-the-past-decade_partner/
Homelessness increased in the U.S. in 2017 for the first time since 2010, and advocates for homeless people are alarmed. Ten city and county governments have declared states of emergency since 2015 in response; meanwhile, Department of Housing and Urban Development head Ben Carson shows ongoing disinterest in supporting local governments’ efforts.
While cities like Los Angeles are facing a well-publicized crisis as they struggle to find long-term solutions, California is surprisingly not even one of the states with the five fastest increases in homelessness, according to a new survey compiled by Credit Loan.
Beyond the division of sheltered versus unsheltered, experts disagree on the best methods of measuring rates of homelessness. The Credit Loan survey uses a point-in-time (PIT) count from HUD data that communities collect from physical outreach to determine how many individuals are literally homeless on a designated day. This data is pulled from PIT count numbers from 2007-2016. Other groups like the Michigan Coalition Against Homelessness prefer to rely on the numbers generated through statewide data systems to measure homelessness in their states.
According to the Credit Loan survey, these are the states that saw the most significant increases and decreases in homelessness over the past 10 years:
https://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/screen_shot_2018-02-20_at_11.35.31_am.png?itok=NTfTM_6c
Nice post, but what does it have to do with street turds?
https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-poop-patrol-feces-sidewalks-housing-crisis-2018-8
Nice post, but what does it have to do with street turds?
https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-poop-patrol-feces-sidewalks-housing-crisis-2018-8
Look!
Out inthe street!
It's a broom,
It's got feet!
It's POOPERMAN!
da da da dadadada da
Nice post, but what does it have to do with street turds?
https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-poop-patrol-feces-sidewalks-housing-crisis-2018-8I thought the title of this thread was:
" California’s poverty rate is still the highest in the nation"
That was NOT the topic of the post YOU quoted.
Pay attention.
That was NOT the topic of the post YOU quoted.
Pay attention.What are you babbling about? I responded to the wrong datayou Trumpeteers posted and and to the tittle of this thread
California’s poverty rate is still the highest in the nation
It's not
YOu quoted ME.
Admit it - you are far to anxious to just lash out at everyone to know what you are talking about.
Hate will consume you.
:popcorn:
YOu quoted ME.
Admit it - you are far to anxious to just lash out at everyone to know what you are talking about.
Hate will consume you.
:popcorn:You are losing it
YOu quoted ME.
Admit it - you are far to anxious to just lash out at everyone to know what you are talking about.
Hate will consume you.
The Drudge report claimed it. I and others like mostpost refuted it. And? Do you have a rational argument to make other than accusing me of "lashing out to everyone?"
You are losing it Mr Troll. Get off my back.
Now I understand what monkey on my back really means:lol:
.
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
barahona44
10-04-2018, 11:15 AM
I lost track.Who's turn is it now? :sleeping:
Mulerider
10-05-2018, 01:10 AM
Education in red states is even worse.
Actually, that is grossly misleading.
Almost all "rankings" such as you posted utilize macro data which ignore demographics. The only way to accurately compare education results between states with greatly divergent populations is through the use of covariates, measuring educational achievement between states within the same ethnic group.
Which is to say, how do the scores of white kids in a lower-ranking state compare to those of white kids in a high-ranking state? How do the scores of Hispanic kids rank between those two states? African-American kids?
Here's an example of the "high/low ranking" fallacy. It's an old post (2009), but the principle hasn't changed.
Longhorns 17, Badgers 1 (http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html)
Actually, that is grossly misleading.
Almost all "rankings" such as you posted utilize macro data which ignore demographics. The only way to accurately compare education results between states with greatly divergent populations is through the use of covariates, measuring educational achievement between states within the same ethnic group.
Which is to say, how do the scores of white kids in a lower-ranking state compare to those of white kids in a high-ranking state? How do the scores of Hispanic kids rank between those two states? African-American kids?
Here's an example of the "high/low ranking" fallacy. It's an old post (2009), but the principle hasn't changed.
Longhorns 17, Badgers 1 (http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/03/longhorns-17-badgers-1.html)Do you have rankings corrected for demographics? I could not find anything
Mulerider
10-05-2018, 07:55 AM
Do you have rankings corrected for demographics? I could not find anything
No, but over the weekend I'll see if I can find a published study. Other than the link I posted, I don't remember seeing one that weights for demographics. I only came across that linked article a few years ago when I became interested in Simpson's Paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox).
No, but over the weekend I'll see if I can find a published study. Other than the link I posted, I don't remember seeing one that weights for demographics. I only came across that linked article a few years ago when I became interested in Simpson's Paradox (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox).I don't think there are any. I would guess the readily available studies may not be perfect, but may be close enough.
Many point to similar rankings
PaceAdvantage
10-09-2018, 02:59 PM
The Drudge report claimed it.Last I checked, the DR doesn't actually claim anything. They are a links aggregator...nothing more, nothing less.
A fan of DR like yourself should know this...it's the first thing you learn when you first go there.
JustRalph
06-19-2019, 05:41 PM
When the government is just waiting for an outbreak to thin the herd......it looks like LA
https://hotair.com/archives/2019/06/19/paradise-lost-homelessness-los-angeles/
Process to recall LA mayor has begun...maybe it will spread.
boxcar
06-20-2019, 11:32 AM
When the government is just waiting for an outbreak to thin the herd......it looks like LA
https://hotair.com/archives/2019/06/19/paradise-lost-homelessness-los-angeles/
That's probably the libs' plan. They probably figure not too many homeless make it to the polls anyway, which makes the homeless quite expendable.
And besides this, the libs need room to put all the illegals. The downtown slums will suffice for them as nicely as they have for the current homeless residents. :coffee:
Would you rather sleep in a border "concentration camp" or a LA tent? :rolleyes:
Maybe tents are the way to go to house illegals - tents on main street, Demtown, USA.
davew
06-21-2019, 12:25 AM
That's probably the libs' plan. They probably figure not too many homeless make it to the polls anyway, which makes the homeless quite expendable.
And besides this, the libs need room to put all the illegals. The downtown slums will suffice for them as nicely as they have for the current homeless residents. :coffee:
Are you kidding? Homeless have potential for so many votes... they can be bused around all day.
fast4522
06-21-2019, 01:49 AM
New York, California high-tax state exodus just beginning, expert warns
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/high-tax-state-exodus-accelerate
davew
06-21-2019, 03:58 AM
New York, California high-tax state exodus just beginning, expert warns
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/high-tax-state-exodus-accelerate
It is all a plot by president Trump to thin the dim herd in the liberal paradises with the new tax code. It might backfire as the liberal disease just spreads to other states. It will make it harder for these states to operate, as they like giving away things to people from around the world.
JustRalph
06-21-2019, 12:16 PM
It is all a plot by president Trump to thin the dim herd in the liberal paradises with the new tax code. It might backfire as the liberal disease just spreads to other states. It will make it harder for these states to operate, as they like giving away things to people from around the world.
High taxes aren’t the only problems. State sponsored Tyranny lives on......
https://hotair.com/archives/2019/06/21/busted-defending-home/
RunForTheRoses
06-21-2019, 12:49 PM
https://nypost.com/2019/06/17/cuomo-signs-bill-granting-drivers-licenses-to-illegal-immigrants/
This is a glimmer of positivity:
https://nypost.com/2019/06/19/upstate-county-clerks-take-stand-against-illegal-immigrant-licence-law/
Liberal logic:
“In the memo of the bill, they talk about the reason why they’re passing this bill is to make sure that people who are here illegally can get to and from work,” Kerns said. “It is illegal to hire people in the state of New York or anywhere that are here illegally.
delayjf
06-21-2019, 02:38 PM
Not quite.
US States By Poverty Rate
Poverty rate and percentages are one way to represent poverty rates, but in terms of total government revenue spent on Welfare, CA is the king.
I honestly believe CA will need to collapse before it gets better. CA will soon offer free HC to some illegal immigrants. Left, right left ... they are marching right of the cliff.
TJDave
06-21-2019, 02:53 PM
“In the memo of the bill, they talk about the reason why they’re passing this bill is to make sure that people who are here illegally can get to and from work,” Kerns said. “It is illegal to hire people in the state of New York or anywhere that are here illegally.
Excellent point. Laws prohibiting hiring of illegals should be vigorously enforced.
Regarding drivers licenses:
My safety being of primary concern...I would prefer all drivers, regardless of status, to be tested and licensed.
RunForTheRoses
06-22-2019, 07:00 PM
California Wild Wings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfN2R9VLdDU&ytbChannel=null
jocko699
06-22-2019, 07:11 PM
That's false advertisement. It doesn't have wings!!!! :pound::pound::pound::pound:
Man, it is pretty bad when the rats are committing suicide in California! :eek:
JustRalph
06-22-2019, 11:45 PM
Man, it is pretty bad when the rats are committing suicide in California! :eek:
Up next? Jersey!
JustRalph
08-14-2019, 05:25 PM
New Doll
davew
08-24-2019, 01:50 PM
Black Plague coming to liberal paradises
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D9pZEjSxXQ
Marshall Bennett
08-24-2019, 02:03 PM
Black Plague, Typhus, and Cholera...Oh my!!!
And they think they can run health care.
Hey, AOC.......whatcha gonna do when your liberal BS kills off your supporters?
46zilzal
08-24-2019, 08:18 PM
Largest state, good climate...are you surprised?
mikekk
08-25-2019, 12:24 AM
Man, it is pretty bad when the rats are committing suicide in California! :eek:
https://www.mtpr.org/post/addressing-montanas-suicide-rate-highest-nation
Montana has the highest suicide rate in the US. I'm still interested, but I'm lowering my bid amount
ElKabong
08-25-2019, 12:35 AM
https://www.mtpr.org/post/addressing-montanas-suicide-rate-highest-nation
Montana has the highest suicide rate in the US. I'm still interested, but I'm lowering my bid amount
Democrat for a governor? No wonder....
JustRalph
08-25-2019, 01:04 AM
https://twitter.com/hirschA8720/status/1164717626435743744
Good vid
MargieRose
08-25-2019, 12:08 PM
https://twitter.com/hirschA8720/status/1164717626435743744
Good vidHow about a class action lawsuit against the state of CA from the residents of CA and those traveling to and fro?
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/poverty-rate-by-state/#undefined
Gee, most of the top ten are RED STATES. Regardless of PA off topic repeating bull, California is ranked at 18th
Rank State 2019 Population Poverty Poverty Rate
1 Mississippi 2,986,220 620,007 20.76%
2 New Mexico 2,084,828 420,293 20.16%
3 Louisiana 4,663,461 887,574 19.03%
4 Kentucky 4,424,376 783,586 17.71%
5 Arkansas 2,977,944 524,211 17.60%
6 Alabama 4,850,771 849,699 17.52%
7 West Virginia 1,836,843 317,089 17.26%
8 Arizona 6,809,946 1,128,046 16.56%
9 District of Columbia 672,391 111,025 16.51%
10 Georgia 10,201,635 1,679,030 16.46%
11 Tennessee 6,597,381 1,072,360 16.25%
12 South Carolina 4,893,444 790,657 16.16%
13 Oklahoma 3,896,251 612,714 15.73%
14 North Carolina 10,052,564 1,579,871 15.72%
15 Texas 27,419,612 4,291,384 15.65%
16 Michigan 9,925,568 1,510,841 15.22%
17 Florida 20,278,447 3,070,972 15.14%
18 California 38,982,847 5,773,408 14.81%
19 New York 19,798,228 2,908,471 14.69%
20 Oregon 4,025,127 587,248 14.59%
21 Ohio 11,609,756 1,683,890 14.50%
22 Idaho 1,657,375 236,000 14.24%
23 Missouri 6,075,300 861,679 14.18%
24 Indiana 6,614,418 933,540 14.11%
25 Nevada 2,887,725 405,263 14.03%
26 Montana 1,029,862 144,198 14.00%
27 South Dakota 855,444 114,885 13.43%
28 Illinois 12,854,526 1,698,613 13.21%
29 Rhode Island 1,056,138 136,126 12.89%
30 Pennsylvania 12,790,505 1,623,537 12.69%
31 Maine 1,330,158 166,904 12.55%
32 Kansas 2,903,820 361,285 12.44%
33 Wisconsin 5,763,217 692,719 12.02%
34 Washington 7,169,967 859,950 11.99%
35 Delaware 943,732 111,304 11.79%
36 Nebraska 1,893,921 220,330 11.63%
37 Iowa 3,118,102 361,343 11.59%
38 Colorado 5,436,519 612,143 11.26%
39 Vermont 624,636 68,144 10.91%
40 Wyoming 583,200 63,398 10.87%
41 Utah 2,993,941 324,856 10.85%
42 Virginia 8,365,952 906,838 10.84%
43 Massachusetts 6,789,319 727,546 10.72%
44 North Dakota 745,475 79,374 10.65%
45 New Jersey 8,960,161 938,252 10.47%
46 Minnesota 5,490,726 560,995 10.22%
47 Hawaii 1,421,658 143,148 10.07%
48 Alaska 738,565 73,380 9.94%
49 Connecticut 3,594,478 350,783 9.76%
50 Maryland 5,996,079 566,966 9.46%
51 New Hampshire 1,331,848 104,470 7.84%
delayjf
08-25-2019, 12:46 PM
Poverty Rates are one thing - total revenue spent on welfare programs are another.
Lemon Drop Husker
08-25-2019, 12:46 PM
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/poverty-rate-by-state/#undefined
Gee, most of the top ten are RED STATES. Regardless of PA off topic repeating bull, California is ranked at 18th
Rank State 2019 Population Poverty Poverty Rate
1 Mississippi 2,986,220 620,007 20.76%
2 New Mexico 2,084,828 420,293 20.16%
3 Louisiana 4,663,461 887,574 19.03%
4 Kentucky 4,424,376 783,586 17.71%
5 Arkansas 2,977,944 524,211 17.60%
6 Alabama 4,850,771 849,699 17.52%
7 West Virginia 1,836,843 317,089 17.26%
8 Arizona 6,809,946 1,128,046 16.56%
9 District of Columbia 672,391 111,025 16.51%
10 Georgia 10,201,635 1,679,030 16.46%
11 Tennessee 6,597,381 1,072,360 16.25%
12 South Carolina 4,893,444 790,657 16.16%
13 Oklahoma 3,896,251 612,714 15.73%
14 North Carolina 10,052,564 1,579,871 15.72%
15 Texas 27,419,612 4,291,384 15.65%
16 Michigan 9,925,568 1,510,841 15.22%
17 Florida 20,278,447 3,070,972 15.14%
18 California 38,982,847 5,773,408 14.81%
19 New York 19,798,228 2,908,471 14.69%
20 Oregon 4,025,127 587,248 14.59%
21 Ohio 11,609,756 1,683,890 14.50%
22 Idaho 1,657,375 236,000 14.24%
23 Missouri 6,075,300 861,679 14.18%
24 Indiana 6,614,418 933,540 14.11%
25 Nevada 2,887,725 405,263 14.03%
26 Montana 1,029,862 144,198 14.00%
27 South Dakota 855,444 114,885 13.43%
28 Illinois 12,854,526 1,698,613 13.21%
29 Rhode Island 1,056,138 136,126 12.89%
30 Pennsylvania 12,790,505 1,623,537 12.69%
31 Maine 1,330,158 166,904 12.55%
32 Kansas 2,903,820 361,285 12.44%
33 Wisconsin 5,763,217 692,719 12.02%
34 Washington 7,169,967 859,950 11.99%
35 Delaware 943,732 111,304 11.79%
36 Nebraska 1,893,921 220,330 11.63%
37 Iowa 3,118,102 361,343 11.59%
38 Colorado 5,436,519 612,143 11.26%
39 Vermont 624,636 68,144 10.91%
40 Wyoming 583,200 63,398 10.87%
41 Utah 2,993,941 324,856 10.85%
42 Virginia 8,365,952 906,838 10.84%
43 Massachusetts 6,789,319 727,546 10.72%
44 North Dakota 745,475 79,374 10.65%
45 New Jersey 8,960,161 938,252 10.47%
46 Minnesota 5,490,726 560,995 10.22%
47 Hawaii 1,421,658 143,148 10.07%
48 Alaska 738,565 73,380 9.94%
49 Connecticut 3,594,478 350,783 9.76%
50 Maryland 5,996,079 566,966 9.46%
51 New Hampshire 1,331,848 104,470 7.84%
If you weren't a complete moron, you'd dig into the data and realize the "poverty rate" is determined by a median basic income factor.
That factor being a median income regardless of where somebody lives.
Anybody that believes a person making $25K in Mississippi is in poverty relative to somebody making $25K in California needs a class in stupid.
davew
08-25-2019, 01:00 PM
If you weren't a complete moron, you'd dig into the data and realize the "poverty rate" is determined by a median basic income factor.
That factor being a median income regardless of where somebody lives.
Anybody that believes a person making $25K in Mississippi is in poverty relative to somebody making $25K in California needs a class in stupid.
some people already have enough skill in stupid they do not need a class
mikekk
08-25-2019, 01:01 PM
Democrat for a governor? No wonder....
Good point. A re-publican governor would make suicide a capital crime...a few executions and that problem would quickly recede.
TJDave
08-25-2019, 03:44 PM
California’s homeless problem is one of drug addiction.
Instead of giving these addicts food, treatment and shelter we should give them drugs and alcohol...all they want.
Problem soon solved.
So according to hcap's brilliant analysis, there even less of an excuse for California being a public toilet and breeding grounds for the plague.
hcap, data are not information. :rolleyes:
horses4courses
08-25-2019, 04:06 PM
California this....California that.....blah blah blah.....
Always from conservatives....always from people who live in crappy climates.
The poverty problem is widespread in this country.
Little, apart from grass roots assistance, is done about it.
It's not just minorities, either.
Plenty of welfare recipients in red states.
No shortage of drug related problems there too.
Get your own houses in order before you point fingers at California.
Conservatives are way too fond of doing that.
PaceAdvantage
08-25-2019, 04:17 PM
You're blaming it on good climate?
More people working under Trump than ever before.
You want him to install toilet, too? :lol::lol:
Hey horsey, YOU people started the war on poverty 50 years ago....what happened?
Lemon Drop Husker
08-25-2019, 04:29 PM
California this....California that.....blah blah blah.....
Always from conservatives....always from people who live in crappy climates.
The poverty problem is widespread in this country.
Little, apart from grass roots assistance, is done about it.
It's not just minorities, either.
Plenty of welfare recipients in red states.
No shortage of drug related problems there too.
Get your own houses in order before you point fingers at California.
Conservatives are way too fond of doing that.
I love where I live.
Lincoln, NE. Our house is in order. I contribute and visit our local soup kitchens at least 3 to 4 times a year. I give clothes to our great Salvation Army, and people are really happy where I live.
My property taxes are a bit high, but I know I'm giving when I pay those as well.
Streets are clean, our kids are getting a solid education, and we all take care of each other here. We are Nebraska. It is what we do.
JustRalph
08-25-2019, 07:21 PM
California this....California that.....blah blah blah.....
Always from conservatives....always from people who live in crappy climates.
The poverty problem is widespread in this country.
Little, apart from grass roots assistance, is done about it.
It's not just minorities, either.
Plenty of welfare recipients in red states.
No shortage of drug related problems there too.
Get your own houses in order before you point fingers at California.
Conservatives are way too fond of doing that.
Sometimes you have to laugh.......gimme a break
46zilzal
08-25-2019, 07:33 PM
California this....California that.....blah blah blah.....
Always from conservatives....always from people who live in crappy climates.
The poverty problem is widespread in this country.
Little, apart from grass roots assistance, is done about it.
It's not just minorities, either.
Plenty of welfare recipients in red states.
No shortage of drug related problems there too.
Get your own houses in order before you point fingers at California.
Conservatives are way too fond of doing that.
that is very true
46zilzal
08-25-2019, 07:34 PM
You're blaming it on good climate?
big study came out in Canada (reason they thought that Victoria, BC was the heart of homeless) was that the median temperature was the best in the nation.
AndyC
08-25-2019, 07:50 PM
California this....California that.....blah blah blah.....
Always from conservatives....always from people who live in crappy climates.
The poverty problem is widespread in this country.
Little, apart from grass roots assistance, is done about it.
It's not just minorities, either.
Plenty of welfare recipients in red states.
No shortage of drug related problems there too.
Get your own houses in order before you point fingers at California.
Conservatives are way too fond of doing that.
Do you live in California? I have lived here for over 50 years and what was once a garden spot has turned into an unrecognizable toilet. All laws are deemed not to apply to those homeless or those in the country illegally. If a homeless person defecates on a sidewalk they just move along without worry. If I did the same thing I would be arrested for indecent exposure and forced to register as a sex offender. The entire state is nuts and getting worse.
davew
08-25-2019, 08:27 PM
big study came out in Canada (reason they thought that Victoria, BC was the heart of homeless) was that the median temperature was the best in the nation.
you will have a difficult time proving to me that Victoria is any better than Vancouver
MargieRose
08-25-2019, 09:00 PM
California this....California that.....blah blah blah.....
Always from conservatives....always from people who live in crappy climates.
The poverty problem is widespread in this country.
Little, apart from grass roots assistance, is done about it.
It's not just minorities, either.
Plenty of welfare recipients in red states.
No shortage of drug related problems there too.
Get your own houses in order before you point fingers at California.
Conservatives are way too fond of doing that.It's those so-called "crappy climates" that, at least seasonally, help to stave off disease and destructive insects and animals...like rats. Sure, there is poverty and homelessness throughout the nation, but where is the threat of the plague, E. coli infections, typhus, tuberculosis, hepatitis A, syphilis, etc. currently more prevalent than in California; more specifically in San Diego, Sonoma and Los Angeles counties?
The diseases have flared as the nation’s homeless population (https://www.hudexchange.info/resources/documents/2018-AHAR-Part-1.pdf) has grown in the past two years: About 553,000 people were homeless at the end of 2018, and nearly one-quarter of homeless people live in California.
Medieval Diseases Are Infecting California’s Homeless (https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/03/typhus-tuberculosis-medieval-diseases-spreading-homeless/584380/)
I'd be wary of those "best in the nation" climates.
46zilzal
08-25-2019, 10:40 PM
you will have a difficult time proving to me that Victoria is any better than Vancouver
I said that the year round temperatures are better there...It is as far south as the middle of Washington state.
46zilzal
08-25-2019, 10:42 PM
Do you live in California? I have lived here for over 50 years and what was once a garden spot has turned into an unrecognizable toilet. All laws are deemed not to apply to those homeless or those in the country illegally. If a homeless person defecates on a sidewalk they just move along without worry. If I did the same thing I would be arrested for indecent exposure and forced to register as a sex offender. The entire state is nuts and getting worse.
When I visit my sister I notice the degeneration in the place....Bars on my old high school windows and doors, traffic is crazier than I ever recall....
davew
08-25-2019, 11:09 PM
I said that the year round temperatures are better there...It is as far south as the middle of Washington state.
really? which middle?
https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/us_2001/washington_ref_2001.jpg
ElKabong
08-26-2019, 12:13 AM
really? which middle?
https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/us_2001/washington_ref_2001.jpg
Maybe he was reading the map at an angle....
PaceAdvantage
08-26-2019, 12:39 AM
Do you live in California? I have lived here for over 50 years and what was once a garden spot has turned into an unrecognizable toilet. All laws are deemed not to apply to those homeless or those in the country illegally. If a homeless person defecates on a sidewalk they just move along without worry. If I did the same thing I would be arrested for indecent exposure and forced to register as a sex offender. The entire state is nuts and getting worse.So when it was a garden spot, was that when the climate was terrible? No? Guess that earlier point by horses4courses was horseshit, as usual.
davew
08-26-2019, 04:56 AM
Left Behind: Homeless Crisis in San Francisco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9z0FNGKng4
If you weren't a complete moron, you'd dig into the data and realize the "poverty rate" is determined by a median basic income factor.
That factor being a median income regardless of where somebody lives.
Anybody that believes a person making $25K in Mississippi is in poverty relative to somebody making $25K in California needs a class in stupid.IT'S MORE THAN JUST "MEDIAN INCOME Schmuck!. The census bureau sets a threshold. But median income ALONE which is not what the poverty level uses, has been criticized by both the right and the left.
A better gauge is standard of living which includes what is affordable and done in each state.
Best States Rankings
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings
Some states shine in health care. Some soar in education. Some excel in both – or in much more. The Best States ranking of U.S. states draws on thousands of data points to measure how well states are performing for their citizens. In addition to health care and education, the metrics take into account a state’s economy, its roads, bridges, internet and other infrastructure, its public safety, the fiscal stability of state government, and the opportunity it affords its residents.
Once again Red states suck big time. Ranked worse to best
BTW, blue states like California prop up red states
AP FACT CHECK: Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states
https://www.apnews.com/2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c
WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican leaders have spent months promoting the myth that red low-tax states are subsidizing blue high-tax states because of the deduction for state and local taxes.
An Associated Press Fact Check finds it’s actually the other way around. High-tax, traditionally Democratic states (blue), subsidize low-tax, traditionally Republican states (red) — in a big way.
Republicans are trying to eliminate the deduction as part of the sweeping tax package working its way through Congress. They added back a deduction for up to $10,000 in property taxes, in a concession to Republicans from high-tax states such as New York and New Jersey. California Republicans are pushing to extend the deduction to local income taxes, too.
It is true that taxpayers in high-tax states benefit the most from the deduction. However, these states send far more tax dollars to Washington than residents in low-tax states.
In fact, most high-tax states send more money to Washington than they get back in federal spending. Most low-tax states make a profit from the federal government’s system of taxing and spending.
THE FACTS:
Connecticut residents paid an average of $15,643 per person in federal taxes in 2015, according to a report by the Rockefeller Institute of Government. Massachusetts paid $13,582 per person, New Jersey paid $13,137 and New York paid $12,820.
California residents paid an average of $10,510.
At the other end, Mississippi residents paid an average of $5,740 per person, while West Virginia paid $6,349, Kentucky paid $6,626 and South Carolina paid $6,665.
Low-tax red states also fare better when you take into account federal spending.
Mississippi received $2.13 for every tax dollar the state sent to Washington in 2015, according to the Rockefeller study. West Virginia received $2.07, Kentucky got $1.90 and South Carolina got $1.71.
Meanwhile, New Jersey received 74 cents in federal spending for tax every dollar the state sent to Washington. New York received 81 cents, Connecticut received 82 cents and Massachusetts received 83 cents.
California fared a bit better than other blue states. It received 96 cents for every dollar the state sent to Washington.
On average, states received $1.14 in federal spending for every tax dollar they sent to Washington. That’s why the federal government has a budget deficit.
___
As usual, hcap has no clue what he is talking about.
It is not about ANY charts or graphs - that guy sleeping on the sidewalk just before your two ridiculous posts says more than any stupid chart or graph.
This is why dems never solve problems - they have idea what a problem is. LikeAndy said, they ALLOW homeless to poop in public.
Got a chart for that one?
Please, no colors.:rolleyes:
As usual, hcap has no clue what he is talking about.
It is not about ANY charts or graphs - that guy sleeping on the sidewalk just before your two ridiculous posts says more than any stupid chart or graph.
This is why dems never solve problems - they have idea what a problem is. LikeAndy said, they ALLOW homeless to poop in public.
Got a chart for that one?
Please, no colors.:rolleyes:Then the name of this thread should have been California’s homeless rate is still the highest in the nation
The red states I posted lead in poverty and shitty standards of living.
As usual PA off topic missises the point of who and how many are truly suffering. Giggling about liberal big cities like immature kindergarten cry-babies.
The overwhelming majority of poor people will not be sleeping on the street or in shelters tonight. Aside from government safety net programs, most individuals have social safety nets in the form of family, friends and community. When bad things happen, we turn to loved ones for support.
In fact, for those falling from housing into homelessness, 72 percent lived with family or friends before turning to shelters. Homelessness is what happens when money runs out, government assistance runs out and social support runs out. To become homeless, a lot must have gone wrong.
Nice dodge.
Said Al Bundy.
PaceAdvantage
08-26-2019, 10:40 AM
IT'S MORE THAN JUST "MEDIAN INCOME Schmuck!. Starting tomorrow, anyone who calls someone else a name in off-topic, post gets flagged. Right/Left doesn't matter.
If I miss a post, don't hesitate to report it...had enough.
King Babysitter has arrived.
woodtoo
08-26-2019, 10:49 AM
The plague doesn't play politics it plays death.
Wash, rinse and repeat is a good start.
Starting tomorrow, anyone who calls someone else a name in off-topic, post gets flagged. Right/Left doesn't matter.
If I miss a post, don't hesitate to report it...had enough.
King Babysitter has arrived.As usual you see only what you want to. From LDH to me.
If you weren't a complete moron, you'd dig into the data and realize the "poverty rate" is determined by a median basic income factor.
That factor being a median income regardless of where somebody lives.
Anybody that believes a person making $25K in Mississippi is in poverty relative to somebody making $25K in California needs a class in stupid.
TJDave
08-26-2019, 11:34 AM
Starting tomorrow, anyone who calls someone else a name in off-topic, post gets flagged. Right/Left doesn't matter.
Free beer tomorrow!
PaceAdvantage
08-26-2019, 11:37 AM
As usual you see only what you want to. From LDH to me.I just said it in another thread...I'll say it here too.
Doesn't matter right or left. Like porn, I'll know name calling when I see it.
Posts will get flagged. Get a couple of flags, the forum will automatically ban you for a number of days.
That's the way it's going starting tomorrow. When I see name calling, from ANYONE to ANYONE, it's getting flagged.
If you don't like it, or don't agree with my King Babysitting procedures, then you are free to stop posting altogether.
LDH will be flagged if he name calls...and so will you.
delayjf
08-26-2019, 12:36 PM
I for one hope CA continues on the track they are on, so they can continue to be that shining example to the rest of the US. I've said this before, CA will need to collapse before it gets better.
I just said it in another thread...I'll say it here too.
Doesn't matter right or left. Like porn, I'll know name calling when I see it.
Posts will get flagged. Get a couple of flags, the forum will automatically ban you for a number of days.
That's the way it's going starting tomorrow. When I see name calling, from ANYONE to ANYONE, it's getting flagged.
If you don't like it, or don't agree with my King Babysitting procedures, then you are free to stop posting altogether.
LDH will be flagged if he name calls...and so will you.Fine but why did you forget who initiated the exchange of insults, calling me out and not him?
PaceAdvantage
08-26-2019, 12:44 PM
Fine but why did you forget who initiated the exchange of insults, calling me out and not him?You and ely both have persecution complexes. Yours was the most recent post. That's why I replied to yours.
I'm not going to go back and reply to every single name calling post from everyone here on off-topic. That would be impossible.
AndyC
08-26-2019, 01:00 PM
I for one hope CA continues on the track they are on, so they can continue to be that shining example to the rest of the US. I've said this before, CA will need to collapse before it gets better.
When does the get better start because the collapse has already happened.
TJDave
08-26-2019, 01:00 PM
This is just members, correct?
86-year-old cancer-ridden Jewish grandmothers and half witted Presidents are still fair game?
PaceAdvantage
08-26-2019, 01:02 PM
This is just members, correct?
86-year-old cancer-ridden Jewish grandmothers and half witted Presidents are still fair game?So are dead right-wing philanthropists and left-wing movie stars of times gone by.
TJDave
08-26-2019, 01:08 PM
So are dead right-wing philanthropists and left-wing movie stars of times gone by.
Yippee! :jump:
You and ely both have persecution complexes. Yours was the most recent post. That's why I replied to yours.
I'm not going to go back and reply to every single name calling post from everyone here on off-topic. That would be impossible.I quoted LDH calling me a moron in my response to him. So it was clear to anyone who initiated the insults.
How come we two ant-Trumpers are the targets of your majesty's ire and aim?
MargieRose
08-26-2019, 01:25 PM
So are dead right-wing philanthropists and left-wing movie stars of times gone by.Why should it be? HBO...hopefully we are not. Better to demand a bit of class, methinks.
PaceAdvantage
08-26-2019, 01:53 PM
How come we two ant-Trumpers are the targets of your majesty's ire and aim?I've stated multiple times today that everybody is a target. Right and left.
I don't know how I can get any clearer so that even you can understand me.
Stop trolling me.
Saratoga_Mike
08-26-2019, 02:02 PM
When does the get better start because the collapse has already happened.
I was last in San Fran a little over three years ago, and it was truly disturbing, but I have a city for you: Pasadena. Pristine.
bpiets
08-26-2019, 04:03 PM
:coffee::popcorn: the prover to rate is in Califonia blue to it having many Spanish folks and being on the west coast have many Asian folks looking for a new start and many folks coming from South America are applying via family that lives or resides there for entry to America ...and thus the many problems are coming from Spanish speaking nations ....strange but true...:headbanger::coffee::popcorn: ( that may be why that star sports base ball player never speaks English in public....sad indeed.... To day's news...) many folks want a vote to change the language spoken in North America to Spanish via population who speak a most common language ....lol..these folks are not American nor Canadians but just persons who could not make a life in thier nations and now use our natural resources and laws against us that allowed them into our nation in the first place....same with a lot of Arabs from North African and Muslim nations...so why we allow these losers into our nation is the big question...or one of them questions for sure...:headbanger::popcorn::bang::coffee:
bpiets
08-26-2019, 04:06 PM
:coffee::popcorn: the prover to rate is in Califonia blue to it having many Spanish folks and being on the west coast have many Asian folks looking for a new start and many folks coming from South America are applying via family that lives or resides there for entry to America ...and thus the many problems are coming from Spanish speaking nations ....strange but true...:headbanger::coffee::popcorn: ( that may be why that star sports base ball player never speaks English in public....sad indeed.... To day's news...) many folks want a vote to change the language spoken in North America to Spanish via population who speak a most common language ....lol..these folks are not American nor Canadians but just persons who could not make a life in thier nations and now use our natural resources and laws against us that allowed them into our nation in the first place....same with a lot of Arabs from North African and Muslim nations...so why we allow these losers into our nation is the big question...or one of them questions for sure...:headbanger::popcorn::bang::coffee:
I really do not like word perfect to put words into sentences that were not spelt out , like the first few words to start the view point...sad...tired of correcting word perfect...:coffee::popcorn:
46zilzal
08-26-2019, 09:14 PM
I was last in San Fran a little over three years ago, and it was truly disturbing, but I have a city for you: Pasadena. Pristine.
Used to be better as was that larger area near Santa Anita....
Want to see a great area? Up behind my alma mater UCLA in Brentwood/Bel Air....That has remained pretty much the same since I matriculated that LONG ago.
horses4courses
08-26-2019, 09:29 PM
:coffee::popcorn: the prover to rate is in Califonia blue to it having many Spanish folks and being on the west coast have many Asian folks looking for a new start and many folks coming from South America are applying via family that lives or resides there for entry to America ...and thus the many problems are coming from Spanish speaking nations ....strange but true...:headbanger::coffee::popcorn: ( that may be why that star sports base ball player never speaks English in public....sad indeed.... To day's news...) many folks want a vote to change the language spoken in North America to Spanish via population who speak a most common language ....lol..these folks are not American nor Canadians but just persons who could not make a life in thier nations and now use our natural resources and laws against us that allowed them into our nation in the first place....same with a lot of Arabs from North African and Muslim nations...so why we allow these losers into our nation is the big question...or one of them questions for sure...:headbanger::popcorn::bang::coffee:
Funny how many with Spanish as their first language converse
at higher levels in English than our supposed native speakers. :eek:
davew
08-26-2019, 10:33 PM
I've stated multiple times today that everybody is a target. Right and left.
I don't know how I can get any clearer so that even you can understand me.
Stop trolling me.
Just because some posters are paranoid does not mean that most of the forum are not out to get them.
delayjf
08-27-2019, 08:04 AM
I was last in San Fran a little over three years ago, and it was truly disturbing, but I have a city for you: Pasadena. Pristine.
IMO
What is really making CA unbearable is the rising population. Which in turn is making the daily traffic situation. unbearable. If you have any kind of commute to your job, you can count of spending hours in traffic every day. If you commute from say Riverside into Orange Co. you can count on spending at least 20 hours a week commuting. They also have the highest gas prices in the country.
Then there's the cost of housing, which is another subject.
So while its true that there is no Disneyland in MS, AL or LA, going to Disneyland will cost a family of 4 @ 400.00 dollars a day just to get in the park and the crowds you will face be tremendous; you will stand in line for about 2 hours for any of the major rides.
If you are retired, purchased you home in the early 90's or sooner and don't have to get our in the traffic everyday, your in great shape. But for those that have to work, the whole CA scene just wears on you.
IMO
What is really making CA unbearable is the rising population
Although it's population GAIN is the slowest in California's history.
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-population-growth-20190501-story.html
In 2015, California saw a net gain of some 177,000 immigrants moving to the state and 105,000 residents leaving, according to data from the Finance Department. Between July 2017 and July 2018, however, out-migration surged to about 160,000 people.
California’s 2018 population growth was the slowest in state history, new demographic data show — underscoring shifting immigration patterns, declining birthrates and economic strains that are making it harder for some to afford living here.
The state added 186,807 residents last year, bringing the estimated total population to 39,927,315 as of Jan. 1, according to estimates released by the state Department of Finance on Wednesday. The overall growth rate slipped to 0.47% last year from 0.78% in 2017, the slowest since data collection started in 1900, department spokesman H.D. Palmer said.
Births in the state were down by more than 18,000 compared with the previous year.
May 1, 2019
jimmyb
08-27-2019, 03:21 PM
2 Bodybuilders came to California via Germany speaking very little, if any English. One was from Sardinia, the other from Austria. One became a Chiropractor the other a Famous actor and former Governor of California.
Always a way out of the shit if one has desire.
AndyC
08-27-2019, 04:48 PM
Although it's population GAIN is the slowest in California's history.
That just shows you how screwed up CA really is. We have the best weather, beaches, and mountains, etc. yet people are creating traffic jams leaving the state.
That just shows you how screwed up CA really is. We have the best weather, beaches, and mountains, etc. yet people are creating traffic jams leaving the state.But as I just showed, there is a net gain.
I love L.A. My son and daughter in law live near Venice Beach.
ReplayRandall
08-27-2019, 05:36 PM
But as I just showed, there is a net gain.
I love L.A. My son and daughter in law live near Venice Beach.
Sounds like a nice area to VISIT for maybe a week, tops...;)
TJDave
08-27-2019, 05:42 PM
But as I just showed, there is a net gain.
I love L.A. My son and daughter in law live near Venice Beach.
Not nearly enough.
I love CA as well but between the homeless/drug addicts, Pot, dogs in restaurants and grocery stores and PS now being the gayest of the gay places, I’m done.
Where is still undecided.
AndyC
08-27-2019, 06:15 PM
But as I just showed, there is a net gain.
I love L.A. My son and daughter in law live near Venice Beach.
Primarily attributable to more births than deaths and not by a burning desire to be in CA.
FantasticDan
08-27-2019, 06:28 PM
I love CA as well but between the homeless/drug addicts, Pot, dogs in restaurants and grocery stores and PS now being the gayest of the gay places, I’m done.
Where is still undecided.
Let's see.. looking for a new place to live with:
No homeless :ThmbUp:
No pot :ThmbUp:
No dogs in restaurants :ThmbUp:
No gays :ThmbUp:
Maybe share Tom's house? 2/4 ain't bad :lol:
I'll keep looking. :ThmbUp:
That is all you have to offer - a personal attack?
Wow, be all you can be!
delayjf
08-27-2019, 08:14 PM
We have the best weather,
I know this is subjective, but I found Hawaii's weather preferable to CA - 88 degrees with cooling breeze almost everyday, I also appreciated the rainfall as well.
Primarily attributable to more births than deaths and not by a burning desire to be in CA.From the article I posted.
California’s 2018 population growth was the slowest in state history, new demographic data show — underscoring shifting immigration patterns, declining birthrates and economic strains that are making it harder for some to afford living here.
Not nearly enough.
I love CA as well but between the homeless/drug addicts, Pot, dogs in restaurants and grocery stores and PS now being the gayest of the gay places, I’m done.
Where is still undecided.San Francisco is gayer.
Last time I was there, no dogs in restaurants. And Pot does not turn me off
woodtoo
08-28-2019, 08:24 AM
San Francisco is gayer.
Last time I was there, no dogs in restaurants. And Pot does not turn me off
If you like your California you can keep your California. Its not like it will change that much in your lifetime.:ThmbUp:
Unless there is a major epidemic or destructive natural disaster.
If you like your California you can keep your California. Its not like it will change that much in your lifetime.:ThmbUp:
Unless there is a major epidemic or destructive natural disaster.Whether we like it or hate it California is not the leader in poverty. Using comparative metrics of standard of living the leaders in poverty are among the ten top red states
woodtoo
08-28-2019, 08:44 AM
I don't think anyone really meant to say it is the poverty capital of anywhere just that the homeless problem has gotten so urgent lately an epidemic is nearly guaranteed and nothing seems to be improving. IMO they need to step into emergency mode because those tents may soon be filled with dead people. Homeless people are good people who need protection they themselves cannot provide.
I don't think anyone really meant to say it is the poverty capital of anywhere just that the homeless problem has gotten so urgent lately an epidemic is nearly guaranteed and nothing seems to be improving. IMO they need to step into emergency mode because those tents may soon be filled with dead people. Homeless people are good people who need protection they themselves cannot provide.Really? Check with Andy Asaro who started this thread and used an erroneous piece from the Drudge Report. Post # 1
http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2369816&postcount=1
woodtoo
08-28-2019, 09:18 AM
So you don't really care about the people you are more concerned
with what Andy said. Sad especially since you have family living in the center of a timebomb waiting to explode. What do they say?
Or are they just 'lovin the waves'.
So you don't really care about the people you are more concerned
with what Andy said. Sad especially since you have family living in the center of a timebomb waiting to explode. What do they say?
Or are they just 'lovin the waves'.Not what I said. And this thread is wrong about poverty. Admit it.
woodtoo
08-28-2019, 10:10 AM
Not what I said. And this thread is wrong about poverty. Admit it.
Sheesh I just did that!:bang: "It's not about poverty OKAY!!!
After seeing this headline there is no hope for Cali.
"Seattle officials can't decide on how to remove human crap from
sidewalks- councilman argues power washers are racist, since hoses were used against blacks in the past.:lol::lol::lol:
I don't think calling a city "gayer" is appropriate speech...
FantasticDan
08-28-2019, 12:36 PM
I don't think calling a city "gayer" is appropriate speech...How many of your 95,071 posts have been appropriate? 71?
http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Kramer-Yes-Nod.gif
jocko699
08-28-2019, 12:41 PM
I don't think calling a city "gayer" is appropriate speech...
Maybe he meant the city was happy and frivolous
AndyC
08-28-2019, 01:19 PM
From the article I posted.
California’s 2018 population growth was the slowest in state history, new demographic data show — underscoring shifting immigration patterns, declining birthrates and economic strains that are making it harder for some to afford living here.
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You can have a declining birthrate and still have more births than deaths.
TJDave
08-28-2019, 02:50 PM
San Francisco is gayer.
Not even close.
Percentage of gay population:
San Francisco.......less than 10%
Palm Springs........over 50%
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwi6sPHBnabkAhVXrJ4KHednBrUQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gay-palm-springs.info%2F&usg=AOvVaw2d2TY2SRIQAhpnnhSiChWR
thaskalos
08-28-2019, 03:27 PM
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwi6sPHBnabkAhVXrJ4KHednBrUQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gay-palm-springs.info%2F&usg=AOvVaw2d2TY2SRIQAhpnnhSiChWR
The Hacienda Hotel at Warm Sands...is it only for the GAY half of the population? (I saw their ad in the above link)
That would be "discrimination"...NO?
RunForTheRoses
08-28-2019, 03:31 PM
In New York and NJ digs in stores has be ome quite common. I think all you have to do is say it is a service dog and thats it.
TJDave
08-28-2019, 03:43 PM
The Hacienda Hotel at Warm Sands...is it only for the GAY half of the population? (I saw their ad in the above link)
That would be "discrimination"...NO?
Many restaurants/bars/hotels here identify as gay. Doesn’t mean that straights aren’t allowed...Just discouraged. :lol:
How many of your 95,071 posts have been appropriate? 71?
They are all mine,though.
I don't rely on the opinions of stargners and stupid videos clips to do my thinking for me. I actually form my own opinions.
Try it sometime.
I assume you approve the comment.
How about City X is Blacker than Cty Y - that work for you too?
Why am I not surprised.
Oh, and next time you are on twitter, see if someone can tell you how to resize your attachment - makes for a better reading experience for everyone when someone is careless and thoughtless.
PaceAdvantage
08-28-2019, 04:31 PM
Sheesh I just did that!:bang: "It's not about poverty OKAY!!!
After seeing this headline there is no hope for Cali.
"Seattle officials can't decide on how to remove human crap from
sidewalks- councilman argues power washers are racist, since hoses were used against blacks in the past.:lol::lol::lol:Old story, but incredibly, it's true:
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/judges-complain-its-unsafe-unsanitary-outside-county-courthouse-in-seattle/
You really can't make this shit up. :rip:
Fire hoses are racist?
OMG, there is no end to the stupidity people can come up with.
FantasticDan
08-28-2019, 05:27 PM
Oh, and next time you are on twitter, see if someone can tell you how to resize your attachment - makes for a better reading experience for everyone when someone is careless and thoughtless.
Nothing wrong with the size of my attachments.. probably has more to do with your Windows :9::5: computer :lol:
Not even close.
Percentage of gay population:
San Francisco.......less than 10%
Palm Springs........over 50%
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwi6sPHBnabkAhVXrJ4KHednBrUQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gay-palm-springs.info%2F&usg=AOvVaw2d2TY2SRIQAhpnnhSiChWRI, lived in San Francisco for a year back in 68 Shocked the hell out of me
Not that there's anything wrong with gay
:lol:
:cool:
46zilzal
08-28-2019, 06:11 PM
I, lived in San Francisco for a year back in 68 Shocked the hell out of me
I was there is school form 72 to 76 and it was one of the most unique cities I have ever visited
Not even close.
Percentage of gay population:
San Francisco.......less than 10%
Palm Springs........over 50%
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=2ahUKEwi6sPHBnabkAhVXrJ4KHednBrUQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gay-palm-springs.info%2F&usg=AOvVaw2d2TY2SRIQAhpnnhSiChWRNot frequenting Palm Springs or other "Gay villages"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_village#History
I had no idea how common they are. Maybe if I spent time there.
Growing up in NYC, I had one gay friend in the "closet", later found out and had a relatively sheltered life. Did not spend time in gay sections of the city.
However living in Frisco near Haight-Ashbury, both the upstairs and next door couples were gay.
JustRalph
08-30-2019, 03:48 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7396585/Californias-homeless-crisis-engulfs-capital-Sacramentos-people-confront-naked-junkies.html
terrible
MargieRose
08-30-2019, 10:12 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7396585/Californias-homeless-crisis-engulfs-capital-Sacramentos-people-confront-naked-junkies.html
terribleAn interesting, maybe profound, comment to this article:
This is the ultimate expression of the hippie generation. Back in the 60's they had their ultimate dream: "tune in, turn on and drop out". Look ma, I've finally made it. Top of the world.
horses4courses
08-30-2019, 10:20 AM
An interesting, maybe profound, comment to this article:
Looks like some fine journalism there.
Shine up that Pulitzer. :rolleyes:
Looks like some fine journalism there.
Shine up that Pulitzer. :rolleyes:I can only say "far f*c*ing out":lol:
MargieRose
08-30-2019, 10:34 AM
Looks like some fine journalism there.
Shine up that Pulitzer. :rolleyes:Hit a nerve, did it?
Hippies.....they had Earth Day, so GW is THEIR fault! :lol::lol::lol:
Half of them went to Canada, the other half bought Earth Shoes and tipped over backwards. :lol::lol:
JustRalph
08-30-2019, 12:35 PM
Shut up and take a bath! I hate hippies.......the leftovers.
I see them here in Texas all the time.
I hated them when I was a kid, just a few years younger than them. Many of my friends older siblings were hippie types. But they got over it. It’s the ones who didn't that drive me crazy.
65 yrs old........wearing Tye Dyed shirts and ponytails with sandals and white socks.......the men look awful
horses4courses
08-30-2019, 12:38 PM
Shut up and take a bath! I hate hippies
Oh, but they speak so highly of you! :rolleyes:
horses4courses
08-30-2019, 12:41 PM
Hit a nerve, did it?
Didn't read it.
Just saw the highlighted quote.
Take a look at the top 25 cities in the US and get back to me.
All conservatives care to focus on are the problems in California.
Gives them a warm, fuzzy, feeling - or something.
JustRalph
08-30-2019, 12:45 PM
Didn't read it.
Just saw the highlighted quote.
Take a look at the top 25 cities in the US and get back to me.
All conservatives care to focus on are the problems in California.
Gives them a warm, fuzzy, feeling - or something.
That warm fuzzy feeling comes from living in the suburbs.
Greyfox
08-30-2019, 01:18 PM
I was there is school form 72 to 76 and it was one of the most unique cities I have ever visited
Yes...the 70's were the Flower Child years.
Today it's also quite unique, but in a different way.
Now it's the "crap capital" of California, perhaps America.
Check out the San Francisco Poop Map in the video below.
https://youtu.be/L-T6O8HE5KY
46zilzal
08-30-2019, 01:34 PM
Shut up and take a bath! I hate hippies.......the leftovers.
I see them here in Texas all the time.
I hated them when I was a kid, just a few years younger than them. Many of my friends older siblings were hippie types. But they got over it. It’s the ones who didn't that drive me crazy.
65 yrs old........wearing Tye Dyed shirts and ponytails with sandals and white socks.......the men look awful
So what? the world does not have to kowtow to your standards of anything. There is NOW, always was, and always will be NO ONE WAY to do anything.
AndyC
08-30-2019, 02:06 PM
So what? the world does not have to kowtow to your standards of anything. There is NOW, always was, and always will be NO ONE WAY to do anything.
While I agree with your statements I have found that many of the homeless, hippies, etc. are making us kowtow to their standards. And if we complain we are considered subhuman.
jimmyb
08-30-2019, 02:38 PM
In the words of George Harrisons wife, Patti.
"We were expecting Haight-Ashbury to be special, a creative and artistic place, filled with Beautiful People, but it was horrible – full of ghastly drop-outs, bums and spotty youths, all out of their brains. Everybody looked stoned – even mothers and babies."
ReplayRandall
08-30-2019, 02:46 PM
While I agree with your statements I have found that many of the homeless, hippies, etc. are making us kowtow to their standards. And if we complain we are considered subhuman.
In the words of George Harrisons wife, Patti.
"We were expecting Haight-Ashbury to be special, a creative and artistic place, filled with Beautiful People, but it was horrible – full of ghastly drop-outs, bums and spotty youths, all out of their brains. Everybody looked stoned – even mothers and babies."
Reality....So refreshing, no matter the stench of rotting fantasies.
JustRalph
08-30-2019, 03:59 PM
Oh, but they speak so highly of you! :rolleyes:
You’re funny........
Didn't read it.
Just saw the highlighted quote.
Take a look at the top 25 cities in the US and get back to me.
All conservatives care to focus on are the problems in California.
Gives them a warm, fuzzy, feeling - or something.
Pareto analysis -start with the biggest problems first.
At least conservatives acknowledge and want to fix SOMETHING.
You are only using it as a political card to play.
People like YOU are why we have problems like this.
People like you would rather no one talk about the streets paved in poop rather than admit there is a problem in a dem controlled city.
Your compassion for the homeless is breathtaking.
In the words of George Harrisons wife, Patti.
"We were expecting Haight-Ashbury to be special, a creative and artistic place, filled with Beautiful People, but it was horrible – full of ghastly drop-outs, bums and spotty youths, all out of their brains. Everybody looked stoned – even mothers and babies."
Here is a fact for those who missed the 60s.
Hippies STUNK to high heaven! :faint:
JustRalph
09-09-2019, 10:20 AM
Watch rats in background
https://twitter.com/Edantes112/status/1170846488978546689
chiguy
09-09-2019, 01:56 PM
Alabama has a problem too. Looks like this was from 2016. Who knows how many were disturbed when Dorian blew through there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtEAuXEnFUo
JustRalph
09-09-2019, 05:42 PM
Yes....., that’s germane to the the thread:rolleyes:
boxcar
09-09-2019, 07:41 PM
Yes....., that’s germane to the the thread:rolleyes:
RATS and Demo(c)RATS...redundant, actually. :coffee:
kingfin66
09-09-2019, 10:48 PM
Shut up and take a bath! I hate hippies.......the leftovers.
I see them here in Texas all the time.
I hated them when I was a kid, just a few years younger than them. Many of my friends older siblings were hippie types. But they got over it. It’s the ones who didn't that drive me crazy.
65 yrs old........wearing Tye Dyed shirts and ponytails with sandals and white socks.......the men look awful
I agree, men should not wear socks with sandals EVER. Lemon Drop Husker accuses people in the NW of doing it, but it sounds like it's a Texas thing to. You forgot to mention the wire rimmed glasses and yellow teeth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFI0NEsXenk
Dave Schwartz
09-09-2019, 11:11 PM
I agree, men should not wear socks with sandals EVER. Lemon Drop Husker accuses people in the NW of doing it, but it sounds like it's a Texas thing to. You forgot to mention the wire rimmed glasses and yellow teeth.
Kingfin,
You have to understand that I've not read this thread since page one.
So, I decide to check in to see what progress is being made and I find this discussion of sandals and socks.
:lol::lol:
Can't understand why California is in trouble.
:lol::lol:
woodtoo
09-10-2019, 09:27 AM
Kingfin,
You have to understand that I've not read this thread since page one.
So, I decide to check in to see what progress is being made and I find this discussion of sandals and socks.
:lol::lol:
Can't understand why California is in trouble.
:lol::lol:
Yes all they really need is less socks and more understanding.:D
Dave Schwartz
09-10-2019, 10:11 AM
Yes all they really need is less socks and more understanding.:D
Or, like WKRP, "More news and less Nessmann."
46zilzal
09-10-2019, 11:42 AM
KOWTOW to their standards? Only the weak idiots who are afraid of being different (you know like people who DO NOT have tattoos or have their nose constantly buried in a cell phone) are affected by any of societal norms.
What a closed mind
boxcar
09-10-2019, 11:59 AM
KOWTOW to their standards? Only the weak idiots who are afraid of being different (you know like people who DO NOT have tattoos or have their nose constantly buried in a cell phone) are affected by any of societal norms.
What a closed mind
Wow! Who would have ever thunk that "open-minded", tatooted, smelly, dirty looking hippies would be the new norm for intelligence?
JustRalph
09-11-2019, 02:00 AM
Pile it up,
https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1171515285263642624
boxcar
09-11-2019, 11:00 AM
Pile it up,
https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1171515285263642624
I wonder why those people don't migrate down to Mexico? Conditions have to be better down their then in that Dimwit hell hole.
PaceAdvantage
09-17-2019, 06:47 PM
Pile it up,
https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1171515285263642624Thank you Democrats!
Please bring to my city so I can be cool too!
horses4courses
09-17-2019, 10:44 PM
Please bring to my city
Get out and look around a little.
Probably won't take too long.
ReplayRandall
09-17-2019, 10:59 PM
Thank you Democrats!
Please bring to my city so I can be cool too!
Is Steely Dan cool enough for you?....Babylon Sisters says it all.
https://youtu.be/sAKdhvhYbXs
PaceAdvantage
09-17-2019, 11:27 PM
Is Steely Dan cool enough for you?....Babylon Sisters says it all.Old news
ReplayRandall
09-17-2019, 11:32 PM
Old news
I don't care for Long Island either, though my friends do...
PaceAdvantage
09-18-2019, 02:46 AM
Babylon ain't a city.
boxcar
09-19-2019, 01:23 PM
Pile it up,
https://twitter.com/ScottPresler/status/1171515285263642624
Poetic Justice will be knocking on Commifornia's door very soon.
Trump says EPA will cite San Francisco for pollution stemming from homelessness issues
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-epa-will-cite-san-francisco-for-pollution-stemming-from-homelessness-issues/ar-AAHwUgj
And how sweet it will be...
JustRalph
10-02-2019, 05:33 PM
https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/10/02/san-francisco-residents-go-war-homeless/
More California innovation
Trump really hit a home today attacking the useless democrat, especially the idido Pelosi. OMG her supporters have to be among the stupidest people alive.
JustRalph
10-02-2019, 06:52 PM
Trump really hit a home today attacking the useless democrat, especially the idido Pelosi. OMG her supporters have to be among the stupidest people alive.
I liked when he hit Pelosi on the condition of her district.
THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST FOOLS ALIVE
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019/september/stop-talking-start-doing-conservative-volunteers-clean-over-50-tons-of-garbage-in-los-angeles-media-ignores
Done massive cleanups in Baltimore and LA.
Baltimore Sun attacked him for his activity!!!
Pissed off that HE showed the whole country what USELESS POS Elijah Cummings really is.
Just shows you how worthless democrats in bug cities are.
The entire House should bee out in the streets in their own districts doing the EXACT SAME THING as this REAL American is doing.
Instead of lying, making up stories, trying to impeach Trump - while totally ignoring their responsibilities as representatives and human beings
DEMOCRATS are WORTHLESS.
PaceAdvantage
10-12-2019, 02:15 PM
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2019/september/stop-talking-start-doing-conservative-volunteers-clean-over-50-tons-of-garbage-in-los-angeles-media-ignores
Done massive cleanups in Baltimore and LA.
Baltimore Sun attacked him for his activity!!!
Pissed off that HE showed the whole country what USELESS POS Elijah Cummings really is.
Just shows you how worthless democrats in bug cities are.
The entire House should bee out in the streets in their own districts doing the EXACT SAME THING as this REAL American is doing.
Instead of lying, making up stories, trying to impeach Trump - while totally ignoring their responsibilities as representatives and human beings
DEMOCRATS are WORTHLESS.I'm surprised the media hasn't reported it as a KKK invasion of those homeless camps...what with all those people running around dressed in white from head to toe...
Also surprised they haven't written story after story criticizing the efforts...after all, all those folks walking around homeless camps with hazmat-like suits on...surprised the media isn't calling them "bullies"....making the homeless feel like dirty, diseased people, worthy of a hazmat suit for protection...lol
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