XP Computer is Still Running

[Buckeye]

I bought this thing back in 2006.

Paid about $2000 for it at the time . . .

Pretty amazing in my opinion.

It's days may be numbered, but I'm impressed.

[Tom]

I am using three of them still.

I have a W10 laptop, but am not interested at all in getting it set up and running. Probably take me three days to download all the updates.

[Dave Schwartz]

I am using three of them still.

I have a W10 laptop, but am not interested at all in getting it set up and running. Probably take me three days to download all the updates.

Tom,

Do yourself a favor and go get this cheap (like $5) add-on that makes Win10 look like Win7.

Start 10 from Stardock (https://www.stardock.com/products/start10/)

I use their product, Start8 on my Win8 machine (https://www.stardock.com/products/start8/download).

[JustRalph]

Tom,

Do yourself a favor and go get this cheap (like $5) add-on that makes Win10 look like Win7.

Start 10 from Stardock (https://www.stardock.com/products/start10/)

I use their product, Start8 on my Win8 machine (https://www.stardock.com/products/start8/download).

2nd!

[Tom]

Is there one to make it look like XP? :D

[wilderness]

Tom,
Ditto to the XP & three.
In the past five months I've scanned nearly 7k in photo negatives using a 2002 XP machine (2d hard drive & Blu Ray Burner (Triple Layer)) with a scanner that costs half the 2002 price of the computer.

Unable to get any AV software (more than two years now) for my XP's because the scanners OCR software will not function with SV3 (I'm using SV2).
Two Malware software's still function and get updates.
Unable to locate a current aftermarket Firewall that will function with SV2 either.

[Marshall Bennett]

I still use the same computer (Vista) that I bought in 2007. I've never loaded it with stuff, movies, music, ect. I watch YouTube and browse a lot (no porn). I remove the cover and blow the dust out twice a year and keep everything updated. A few services don't support Vista any longer and can't use anything newer than IE9. I'm happy with it though and simply refuse to replace it. Only worry the fan motors might die one day, though I've heard they can last a very long time.

[wilderness]

Marshall,
Fan motors are cheap (and simple) to replace and crucial.
Any comp store that sell used parts offers boxes of them they've pulled from old machines.
Reluctant to buy a used on online due to difficulties in matching, however they (used) are cheap online.

BTW, I's encourage you to abandon IE9 and convert to Firefox.
My XP-32 with SV2 may only go to IE8 and I stopped using IE for anything 8-10 years ago.

[davew]

My oldest laptop got 'disabled' from what I suspect was a Microsoft automatic update a few months back. I have been trying to turn off all of my 'automatic updates'.

[PaceAdvantage]

I honestly don't understand the resentment against Win10. It's the most stable, best MS operating system I've ever seen. I know people hate on MS, but really, if you're using a PC purchased within the past few years and Win10, I don't see what there is to complain about...

[Ocala Mike]

My Dell Dimension desktop, running Windows XP until the end, gave me good service from 2004 up until just a few months ago. Now running a new Dell laptop with Windows 10 and I love it.

[DeltaLover]

I honestly don't understand the resentment against Win10. It's the most stable, best MS operating system I've ever seen. I know people hate on MS, but really, if you're using a PC purchased within the past few years and Win10, I don't see what there is to complain about...

Google is your friend. A simple web search can explain to you why people hate Windows in general and Win10 specifically:

https://itvision.altervista.org/why-windows-10-sucks.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/7vsng0/why_does_windows_10_suck_soooo_badly/

https://www.google.com/search?ei=saWXW8G7Jejn_QbWqbLgCQ&q=windows+10+sucks&oq=windows+10+suc&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0l10.12727.16414..18682...0.0..0.170.986.10 j2......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j35i39j0i22i30j0i67j0i20i264j0i131i2 0i263j0i131i20i263i264.o0H6Jtr4izw

[headhawg]

I honestly don't understand the resentment against Win10. It's the most stable, best MS operating system I've ever seen. I know people hate on MS, but really, if you're using a PC purchased within the past few years and Win10, I don't see what there is to complain about...In short, you cannot turn off the telemetry in Win10, and the update scheduling -- and the updates themselves -- are a mess. Win10 isn't any more stable than Win 7 or 8; about the only positive thing you get is DirectX 12 and the fact that support (such as it is) will last well into the next decade.

I cringe when I think of companies like M$, Facebook, and Google collecting data for using their services. Win10 is the worst OS ever in that regard.

[MikeH]

In short, you cannot turn off the telemetry in Win10, and the update scheduling -- and the updates themselves -- are a mess. Win10 isn't any more stable than Win 7 or 8; about the only positive thing you get is DirectX 12 and the fact that support (such as it is) will last well into the next decade.

I cringe when I think of companies like M$, Facebook, and Google collecting data for using their services. Win10 is the worst OS ever in that regard.

I absolutely, totally agree. Even trying to use keystrokes to save files to a specific folder is difficult ... they want everything to go to their cloud service. And, the data gathering ... As an accountant, when I am forced off of Win7, I will probably retire. Win10 is horrible for my needs.

[wilderness]

Mike,
Am I understanding correctly?
Is Windows Explorer and/or My Computer no longer part of W10?

[wilderness]

Mike,
Keyboard Shortcuts W10
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12445/windows-keyboard-shortcuts

Looks to me like F12 (save File as)

Windows Key and E still opens Windows Explorer.

[PaceAdvantage]

Mike,
Am I understanding correctly?
Is Windows Explorer and/or My Computer no longer part of W10?It's called File Explorer now...works pretty much like Windows Explorer to me...I have a shortcut to it on my taskbar, as usual...

As for all the privacy concerns, yes you can turn off telemetry in Win10, but I believe with the home editions, this would necessitate a registry edit.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/take-control-of-your-privacy-in-windows-10/

In this day and age though, everything about you is already out there a million times over, so it's only a matter of time before someone steals your credit card info or whatnot.

That's why I've frozen all of my credit agency files so nobody can open a new line of credit in my name anywhere...hell, nobody can even run a credit check on me...

[wilderness]

Thanks PA.

Know it's possible to block incoming IP's via the router, no clue about outgoing.

For 20-years I've been very careful with my ID and what I put on the www.
My crucial access is controlled by clearing all files before and after any access.
Perhaps I'm just lucky (and paranoid) I've never been hacked.

I did receive a junk email recently claiming they installed malware and they provided what they claimed was a password, which in reality was a user name for a website software. Just Spam. Ran the Malware stuff and nothing.

I've Windows Explorer open at all times and not sure what I'd do without it.

[headhawg]

As for all the privacy concerns, yes you can turn off telemetry in Win10, but I believe with the home editions, this would necessitate a registry edit.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/take-control-of-your-privacy-in-windows-10/

Old article. M$ has made it nigh impossible with recent updates to turn off telemetry. If you want to know what is really going on visit askwoody.com at least once every day. It's a great site not only for the posts by Woody and PatchLady but also the comments and replies.

And I know the trend is to not worry about privacy -- people post the dumbest s**t about themselves on FB and other places. There are some of us who still would rather keep a lower profile. I don't want some megacorp keeping track of my data if I can help it.

[cj]

I honestly don't understand the resentment against Win10. It's the most stable, best MS operating system I've ever seen. I know people hate on MS, but really, if you're using a PC purchased within the past few years and Win10, I don't see what there is to complain about...

I was wondering about that myself. I like it, and certainly wouldn't pay a cent to make it look like W7. I don't even remember what W7 looked like!

[JustRalph]

I still use the same computer (Vista) that I bought in 2007. I've never loaded it with stuff, movies, music, ect. I watch YouTube and browse a lot (no porn). I remove the cover and blow the dust out twice a year and keep everything updated. A few services don't support Vista any longer and can't use anything newer than IE9. I'm happy with it though and simply refuse to replace it. Only worry the fan motors might die one day, though I've heard they can last a very long time.

This is what I use. Same as above. But Quickbooks won’t run on it. So I’m shopping still. Been saying that for almost a year now.

I am seriously considering going all Apple....but just can’t bring myself to do it. I do 75% of my work on an iPad. But I have a ton of software that I use on the PC. My version of office is 15 yrs old and works great. It’s all I need.

My scanner is 10 yrs old, works great. I believe Intel has yet to fix the processor problems they had last year. Did everybody forget about that?

[Parkview_Pirate]

I honestly don't understand the resentment against Win10. It's the most stable, best MS operating system I've ever seen. I know people hate on MS, but really, if you're using a PC purchased within the past few years and Win10, I don't see what there is to complain about...

I guess you're not concerned with a loss of privacy, and being a commodity for Micro$oft. They've taken the 'P' out of Personal Computer. An attitude like that leads to socialism, then dictatorship, then gulags, and so on. Just be the lemming and go along with the crowd. The stakes are much higher than simply what's good as computer.

My new job has W10 laptops. Good to know I've got that Xbox icon on my "professional" machine. How special is that? With cloud apps now the norm to save $$, corporations and consumers have put far more faith and trust in the hands of "you know who" than I'd ever do...

[PaceAdvantage]

Welcome to 2018.

Where your TV is listening to every word you say and possibly recording it on the cloud for posterity...most people don't know that some if not many SMART TVs do listen and send what you say to the cloud these days...in addition to other appliances and gadgets that "listen."

I expressed my point earlier on this...the privacy horse left the barn well before Windows 10. You either live in the modern world or you pull a Ted Kaczynski (minus the bombs I hope).

There really is no in-between any longer...your stuff is OUT THERE whether you like it or not, or whether you try like hell to stop it or not.

[Tom]

You will soon be paying for W10 - and once that gets established, you will be paying whatever the Hell they want you to pay. And you will get whatever update they want you to get, no matter how bad it is and how bad it screws up your system.

MS is not about people.
It is about $$$ and nothing else.

I don't really care how good W10 is - XP and Office 97 are fine for me - and I don't need to add a single thing. MS has not made a singe improvement in 20 years that I have any interest in getting.
Other than Snippit - I could use the XP version of that.

[Buckeye]

Welcome to 2018.

Where your TV is listening to every word you say and possibly recording it on the cloud for posterity...most people don't know that some if not many SMART TVs do listen and send what you say to the cloud these days...in addition to other appliances and gadgets that "listen."

I expressed my point earlier on this...the privacy horse left the barn well before Windows 10. You either live in the modern world or you pull a Ted Kaczynski (minus the bombs I hope).

There really is no in-between any longer...your stuff is OUT THERE whether you like it or not, or whether you try like hell to stop it or not.

You are correct PA.

But all of my stuff is not "out there," and I have no intention of putting it out there either.

These jokers cannot read my mind.

Sometimes, I can't even read it myself. :)

[Dave Schwartz]

Welcome to 2018.

Where your TV is listening to every word you say and possibly recording it on the cloud for posterity...most people don't know that some if not many SMART TVs do listen and send what you say to the cloud these days...in addition to other appliances and gadgets that "listen."

I expressed my point earlier on this...the privacy horse left the barn well before Windows 10. You either live in the modern world or you pull a Ted Kaczynski (minus the bombs I hope).

There really is no in-between any longer...your stuff is OUT THERE whether you like it or not, or whether you try like hell to stop it or not.

A Facebook friend of mine, who I think is on here as well, was just mentioning the other day about how he and his wife were talking in their backyard about her workday. She works at a garden center as was telling him about a guy who bought a particular brand of pellet stove.

He goes online and suddenly ads for THAT pellet stove are popping up on Facebook.

As you said, welcome to 2018.

[JustRalph]

A Facebook friend of mine, who I think is on here as well, was just mentioning the other day about how he and his wife were talking in their backyard about her workday. She works at a garden center as was telling him about a guy who bought a particular brand of pellet stove.

He goes online and suddenly ads for THAT pellet stove are popping up on Facebook.

As you said, welcome to 2018.

In the backyard?

Now that’s scary......

[Dave Schwartz]

In the backyard?

Now that’s scary......

It was their phones.

They don't have anything like Alexa, etc. Didn't think to ask if they had Siri turned on.

[Buckeye]

Whatever you put out there is out there.

Whatever you don't is not.

Nobody can read your mind (or mine).

They just can't.