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PhantomOnTour
09-04-2018, 06:27 PM
Yep....supposed to take place at the main branch of the Lafayette Parish Public Library during the first week of October.
Drag queens will read stories to children while dressed in full regalia.

Most of you know that I tend to fall on the left side of politics, but this is just ridiculous. Yeah yeah yeah....I know, if you don't like it then don't bring your child. Gotcha, but is this the type of program that public funds should be spent on? If some guy wants to hold this at his private business, that's cool with me.

Is it beneficial or educational to expose young children to this? They are young children, around 10yrs old. Don't know about you, but gender identity/fluidity/whatever was NOT something I needed to know about at that age. I was mostly concerned with my Evil Kneivel wind up motorcycle launcher when I was ten.
City Council is currently debating on whether to approve this or not.
Seems to me that this story hour will lead to another two hours of confused kids asking their parents a whole slew of questions that they may not be prepared to answer....they're too young to see this!

The Righties here will have a ball with this one...and rightfully so :(((

Your thoughts?

Inner Dirt
09-04-2018, 06:55 PM
Totally disgusting. I wonder who sets the standard on what behavior that was considered perverse a couple years ago is now celebrated by the left?
What is next to accept and celebrate for the left, pedophilia or bestiality?

VigorsTheGrey
09-04-2018, 07:49 PM
Makes you kinda wonder what the stories will be about...huh...?

Stevecsd2
09-04-2018, 08:37 PM
They did this in our small town (Clarksville TN,about 150,000 population) last month. It wasn't sponsored by the library, the Equality Clarksville group scheduled one of the meeting rooms. There was somewhat of an uproar about this.


https://www.theleafchronicle.com/story/news/local/clarksville/2018/08/10/lgbt-rainbow-reading-event-kids-planned-clarksville-library/956298002/

VigorsTheGrey
09-04-2018, 08:50 PM
How about this one...men dressed as women..

http://www.newser.com/story/264108/drag-queen-story-hour-sparks-small-town-furor.html

You gotta be kidding me...look at the confused look on the face of this toddler...https://www.dragqueenstoryhour.org/

“Drag Queen Story Hour (DQSH) is just what it sounds like—drag queens reading stories to children in libraries, schools, and bookstores. DQSH captures the imagination and play of the gender fluidity of childhood and gives kids glamorous, positive, and unabashedly queer role models. In spaces like this, kids are able to see people who defy rigid gender restrictions and imagine a world where people can present as they wish, where dress up is real.

Tom
09-04-2018, 08:53 PM
I wonder if "Michael" Obama will be there?

VigorsTheGrey
09-04-2018, 09:08 PM
I wonder if "Michael" Obama will be there?
Quit makin’ stuff up Tom...https://pjmedia.com/parenting/demonic-clown-drag-queen-story-time-michelle-obama-public-library/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YOFkVZQ8etE&time_continue=42

TJDave
09-05-2018, 03:50 AM
Yep....supposed to take place at the main branch of the Lafayette Parish Public Library during the first week of October.
Drag queens will read stories to children while dressed in full regalia.


Could be worse...
Could be priests and nuns.

boxcar
09-05-2018, 09:45 AM
Yep....supposed to take place at the main branch of the Lafayette Parish Public Library during the first week of October.
Drag queens will read stories to children while dressed in full regalia.

Most of you know that I tend to fall on the left side of politics, but this is just ridiculous. Yeah yeah yeah....I know, if you don't like it then don't bring your child. Gotcha, but is this the type of program that public funds should be spent on? If some guy wants to hold this at his private business, that's cool with me.

Is it beneficial or educational to expose young children to this? They are young children, around 10yrs old. Don't know about you, but gender identity/fluidity/whatever was NOT something I needed to know about at that age. I was mostly concerned with my Evil Kneivel wind up motorcycle launcher when I was ten.
City Council is currently debating on whether to approve this or not.
Seems to me that this story hour will lead to another two hours of confused kids asking their parents a whole slew of questions that they may not be prepared to answer....they're too young to see this!

The Righties here will have a ball with this one...and rightfully so :(((

Your thoughts?

This is just leftist indoctrination of the young, helpless and naive.

Don't you know that it takes a village [of radical leftists, of course) to help mommies to raise the nation's young.

boxcar
09-05-2018, 09:47 AM
Makes you kinda wonder what the stories will be about...huh...?

When God made Adam and [st]Eve. :coffee:

FantasticDan
09-05-2018, 10:46 AM
Could be worse...
Could be priests and nuns.
:D :ThmbUp:

cordoba
09-05-2018, 10:59 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fkro_VFQ1A


:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:: pound:

cordoba
09-05-2018, 11:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRffy7Lyi5I




:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

hcap
09-05-2018, 11:30 AM
Oh, my goodness. The end of western civilization as we know it.

https://youtu.be/4IrE6FMpai8

hcap
09-05-2018, 11:34 AM
On the other hand, this is normalcy?

https://youtu.be/WhsSzIS84ks

Show Me the Wire
09-05-2018, 02:22 PM
Could be worse...
Could be priests and nuns.

Good to see you acknowledge the Catholic Church has a grave homosexual problem. (See the John Jay report). But you are a little of base. These are the statistics.

The John Jay report found that 81% of the victims were male. All victims, 22% were younger than age 10, 51% were between the ages of 11 and 14, and 27% were between the ages of 15 and 17 years.

Unless these children, being read to, are males and at least 11 years old the drag queens pose more danger, to the children, than a predator homosexual priest, Bishop, or Cardinal.

Marshall Bennett
09-05-2018, 03:18 PM
Liberals believe men should have access to women's restrooms, so this really isn't any shock.

Show Me the Wire
09-05-2018, 03:27 PM
Liberals believe men should have access to women's restrooms, so this really isn't any shock.

Exactly why the msm is not really covering the story and yelling for the head of the Pope, due to his involvement in covering up the abuses throughout the world and for his appointing bishops and cardinals who support predatory homosexual clergy.

The liberals do not want to highlight the scandal because the truth will come out that the scandal is due to homosexuality.

VigorsTheGrey
09-05-2018, 03:34 PM
[QUOTE=Show Me the Wire;2366311]Exactly why the msm is not really covering the story and yelling for the head of the Pope, due to his involvement in covering up the abuses throughout the world and for his appointing bishops and cardinals who support predatory homosexual clergy.

The liberals do not want to highlight the scandal because the truth will come out that the scandal is due to homosexuality.[/QUOTE

There is a canard to the effect that homosexual men are statistically less likely to be pedophiles than their hetero counterparts but I wonder how true that can be because so many men do not admit to being homosexual to begin with...

Show Me the Wire
09-05-2018, 03:42 PM
[QUOTE=Show Me the Wire;2366311]Exactly why the msm is not really covering the story and yelling for the head of the Pope, due to his involvement in covering up the abuses throughout the world and for his appointing bishops and cardinals who support predatory homosexual clergy.

The liberals do not want to highlight the scandal because the truth will come out that the scandal is due to homosexuality.[/QUOTE

There is a canard to the effect that homosexual men are statistically less likely to be pedophiles than their hetero counterparts but I wonder how true that can be because so many men do not admit to being homosexual to begin with...

It is not a pedophile problem. Definition of pedophilia. : sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object; specifically : a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedophilia

The vast majority of abuse cases do not involve prepubescent children, but pubescent males. It is a predatory homosexual preying on pubescent males.

VigorsTheGrey
09-05-2018, 03:59 PM
[quote=VigorsTheGrey;2366313]

It is not a pedophile problem. Definition of pedophilia. : sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object; specifically : a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pedophilia

The vast majority of abuse cases do not involve prepubescent children, but pubescent males. It is a predatory homosexual preying on pubescent males.

Thank you for clarifying that point...the question arises often what it is about the Catholic hierarchical structural milieu that appears to draw or shelter this predation..?

If would seem off base to suggest that the religion itself creates them doesn't it...but yet there must come forth a suitable explanation for this travesty ongoing...

after all the Church MUST do something to offset the increasing public perception that the status quo is an abomination by pure design, a place where predators come because they KNOW that they will be sheltered there....

Show Me the Wire
09-05-2018, 05:00 PM
[quote=Show Me the Wire;2366317]

Thank you for clarifying that point...the question arises often what it is about the Catholic hierarchical structural milieu that appears to draw or shelter this predation..?

If would seem off base to suggest that the religion itself creates them doesn't it...but yet there must come forth a suitable explanation for this travesty ongoing...

after all the Church MUST do something to offset the increasing public perception that the status quo is an abomination by pure design, a place where predators come because they KNOW that they will be sheltered there....

The hierarchy contains predatory homosexuals, who have gained power over the seminaries and appointments. It is estimated that at least 50% of the bishops and cardinals are homosexual and yes they protect each other, in order to protect and increase their power. The network is known as the "Lavender Mafia".

Tom
09-05-2018, 07:06 PM
Liberals believe men should have access to women's restrooms, so this really isn't any shock.

Well, they are sexual perverts.
End of story.

Show Me the Wire
09-05-2018, 08:11 PM
Well, they are sexual perverts.
End of story.

And the liberal homosexual clergy, including bishops and cardinals ally themselves with the dems. Go figure. Birds of a feather, flock together.

chadk66
09-05-2018, 10:06 PM
The thing that took my order in McDonalds last week was a drag queen.:headbanger:

Inner Dirt
09-05-2018, 11:24 PM
The thing that took my order in McDonalds last week was a drag queen.:headbanger:


Where were you at? Unless in an area with a high gay population I would not think a drag queen could get hired serving the public. I don't think I have ever seen a drag queen working in a fast food joint serving customers.

Tom
09-06-2018, 10:33 AM
Where were you at? Unless in an area with a high gay population I would not think a drag queen could get hired serving the public. I don't think I have ever seen a drag queen working in a fast food joint serving customers.

Typically, McDonald's tends to restrict hiring to idiots.
McMorons.

VigorsTheGrey
09-06-2018, 02:06 PM
More fun..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P3y3ZIBN7fc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5dTm0YBwU0A

I guess California isn’t the only place for drag queens is it..?

Show Me the Wire
09-06-2018, 03:13 PM
Another homosexual priest scandal over the week-end being pretty much ignored by the msm media. Two Roman catholic priests arrested in Florida for performing a sexual act inside a car in the 1300 block of Ocean Drive, Miami Beach. Officers arrived to find Berrio, 39, performing oral sex on Cortes, 30, inside the car, which was parked on the east side of the street.

“This act was occurring in full view of the public passing by on Ocean Drive and the sidewalk,” an officer wrote in the arrest reports. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/chicago-catholic-priests-sex-act-public-miami-beach-florida-parked-car-arlington-heights/

Also the sex act was performed in close proximity to a playground. The two priest are assigned to the Chicago Archdiocese, under Cardinal Blase Cupich. Cupich was appointed by Pope Francis.

Now for things that make you go hmmm. Why would two priests assigned to the Chicago archdiocese engage in same sex activity in such an open and notorious way, in this current climate of scandal of predatory homosexual behavior by priests.Common sense would dictate if these men wanted to enjoy sexual relations with each other they would be more discreet and try to avoid publicity.

Why is the connection to the Chicago Archdiocese important and why isn't the whole story being reported by the msm? Does predatory homosexual retired Cardinal McCarrick have anything to do with this lack of reporting to protect the Pope?

Show Me the Wire
09-06-2018, 03:25 PM
Where were you at? Unless in an area with a high gay population I would not think a drag queen could get hired serving the public. I don't think I have ever seen a drag queen working in a fast food joint serving customers.

There is one at the Vatican, just saying.

Show Me the Wire
09-06-2018, 04:41 PM
Berrio was ordained a priest in the Archdiocese of Chicago in 2008. The priest, a native of Colombia, came to Chicago through the Casa Jesus program, a “house of discernment” in which prospective seminarians from Latin America were invited to consider the priesthood during a year-long program sponsored by the archdiocese. The program was founded in 1987.

The Casa Jesus program was suspended in 2016. In that year, NBC 5 Chicago reported homosexual activity among Casa Jesus participants, and said that in 2015 three participants had been dismissed after visiting a gay bar.

In September 2016, Fr. Octavio Munoz was arrested on child pornography charges. Munoz was the rector of Casa Jesus from 2008 to 2015, when he was transferred to a parish in the archdiocese....................................... .............

NBC 5 Chicago reported in 2016 that Vilchez-Parra had ties to Casa Jesus, but did not say whether he had been a participant in the program.


https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/chicago-priest-arrested-in-miami-has-ties-to-shuttered-program-69513

Hmm both priests have ties to Casa Jesus?

chadk66
09-06-2018, 06:24 PM
Where were you at? Unless in an area with a high gay population I would not think a drag queen could get hired serving the public. I don't think I have ever seen a drag queen working in a fast food joint serving customers.Williston, ND of all places. Guarantee you this chick has a dick.

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 12:18 PM
Mark Rozzi (d) Pennsylvania state rep gave the U.S. Bishops good news today; "judgment day is upon us." Rozzi spoke to legislation removing the statute of limitations, which barred prosecution of these predatory homosexual clergy.

The U.S. Bishops have been an ally of the democrat party in pushing the same sex and its related sexual ideologies agenda. Good to see the democrats in Pennsylvania help expose the predatory homosexual practices their allies, read U.S. Bishops, hid to help promote the same sex agenda in secular society and the Church.

I guess the U.S. Bishops miscalculated the strength of the alliance between the democrat party and themselves.

Tom
09-25-2018, 01:37 PM
So the Bishops were infringing on DNC territory?

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 01:40 PM
So the Bishops were infringing on DNC territory?

Yes:D

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 01:42 PM
Mark Rozzi (d) Pennsylvania state rep gave the U.S. Bishops good news today; "judgment day is upon us." Rozzi spoke to legislation removing the statute of limitations, which barred prosecution of these predatory homosexual clergy.

The U.S. Bishops have been an ally of the democrat party in pushing the same sex and its related sexual ideologies agenda. Good to see the democrats in Pennsylvania help expose the predatory homosexual practices their allies, read U.S. Bishops, hid to help promote the same sex agenda in secular society and the Church.

I guess the U.S. Bishops miscalculated the strength of the alliance between the democrat party and themselves.

I believe this action will also legally open the doors for significant monetary damages against the Catholic Church via Vatican coffers......It's always about the money.

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 01:55 PM
I believe this action will also legally open the doors for significant monetary damages against the Catholic Church via Vatican coffers.....

Supreme Court has already ruled that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state and outside of U.S. judicial jurisdiction.

Regarding the U.S., it use to be all the property in a diocese belonged to the bishop. Obtain a financial judgment against the bishop and all the diocese assets were at risk.

The U.S. bishops no longer own the assets of the diocese. Each and every parish is now individually incorporated and the assets belong to that specific parish. Under this new structure only that particular parish is financially on the hook and not the assets of the entire diocese.

There will not be significant financial harm done, the harm done will be in exposing predatory homosexuality due to the pushing the same sex agenda in both the Church and secular society.

Tom
09-25-2018, 02:01 PM
All churches should pay property taxes.
No exceptions.
No free rides.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 02:07 PM
Supreme Court has already ruled that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state and outside of U.S. judicial jurisdiction.

Regarding the U.S., it use to be all the property in a diocese belonged to the bishop. Obtain a financial judgment against the bishop and all the diocese assets were at risk.

The U.S. bishops no longer own the assets of the diocese. Each and every parish is now individually incorporated and the assets belong to that specific parish. Under this new structure only that particular parish is financially on the hook and not the assets of the entire diocese.

There will not be significant financial harm done, the harm done will be in exposing predatory homosexuality due to the pushing the same sex agenda in both the Church and secular society.


Unless you can show me evidence of what you stated, the ruling in 2010 has stripped the Vatican of it's immunity:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/belief/2010/jul/01/without-immunity-can-vatican-survive

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 02:37 PM
Unless you can show me evidence of what you stated, the ruling in 2010 has stripped the Vatican of it's immunity:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/belief/2010/jul/01/without-immunity-can-vatican-survive

The case you cited is a federal appeals court ruling and does not strip the Vatican of its immunity. The decision was based on an exception to the immunity act. The S.C. declined to hear appeal on whether the predatory homosexual clergy were direct employees of the Vatican and remanded it back to the ninth circuit (notorious for its decisions being overturned) for further consideration.

The case was dismissed in 2013. Why, because the plaintiff could not prove "scope of employment exception".

https://www.crin.org/en/library/legal-database/doe-v-holy-see-et-al

I hope the above answers your question about immunity.

As I said, I doubt there will be any significant financial harm to the Vatican or the U.S. dioceses.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 02:52 PM
The case you cited is a federal appeals court ruling and does not strip the Vatican of its immunity. The decision was based on an exception to the immunity act. The S.C. declined to hear appeal on whether the predatory homosexual clergy were direct employees of the Vatican and remanded it back to the ninth circuit (notorious for its decisions being overturned) for further consideration.

The case was dismissed in 2013. Why, because the plaintiff could not prove "scope of employment exception".

https://www.crin.org/en/library/legal-database/doe-v-holy-see-et-al

I hope the above answers your question about immunity.

As I said, I doubt there will be any significant financial harm to the Vatican or the U.S. dioceses.


You might want to check your source again, as this was not a Fed Appeals Court ruling. The US Supreme Court issued a decision against the Vatican in the case of John V Doe v Holy See. The Vatican attempted to invoke the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) of 1976, under which foreign states cannot be sued. The Supreme Court refused to allow this.....

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 03:30 PM
You might want to check your source again, as this was not a Fed Appeals Court ruling. The US Supreme Court issued a decision against the Vatican in the case of John V Doe v Holy See. The Vatican attempted to invoke the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) of 1976, under which foreign states cannot be sued. The Supreme Court refused to allow this.....

Doe v. Holy See, set al. original opinion, U.S. District Court Judge Michael Mosman has ruled that the Holy See cannot be held liable because there was no relationship of employment in the case. Jeff Anderson, attorney for the plaintiff, said he would appeal the decision.[1] The case was finally dismissed in August 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doe_v._Holy_See

The Holy See moved to dismiss the claims against it, invoking its immunity under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act. When the District Court rejected that motion, the defendant took an interlocutory appeal.[5] A divided ninth circuit panel affirmed the judgment of the district court, and in June 2010, the Supreme Court of the United States denied certiorari,[6] sending the case back to the District Court for further proceedings.

Doe v Holy See, et al. was dismissed in 2013 after being remanded by the S.C. Appeals court dismisses sexual abuse lawsuit against Vatican.


Appeals court dismisses sexual abuse lawsuit against Vatican. https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/appeals-court-dismisses-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-against-vatican



Do you have a ruling after 2013?

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 03:41 PM
Supreme Court has already ruled that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state and outside of U.S. judicial jurisdiction.

I take the above statement back. The Supreme Court has not ruled on the merits of whether the Vatican is a sovereign state under the foreign sovereign immunities act. I was thinking about the federal's government's position that the Vatican is a sovereign foreign government (see solicitor general of the United States brief).

It is the position of the U.S. federal government that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 03:49 PM
I take the above statement back. The Supreme Court has not ruled on the merits of whether the Vatican is a sovereign state under the foreign sovereign immunities act. I was thinking about the federal's government's position that the Vatican is a sovereign foreign government (see solicitor general of the United States brief).

It is the position of the U.S. federal government that the Vatican is a foreign sovereign state.


I understand, no problem....What I don't understand is why the Catholic Church is silently paying off victims $4 Billion, to avoid being sued in court, and yet it mostly goes unnoticed:

"According to Jack and Diane Ruhl of the National Catholic Reporter, the Vatican has spent a sickening $3,994,797,060.10 to families in order to avoid being sued in court."

https://yournewswire.com/vatican-4billion-child-sex-abuse-victims/

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 03:57 PM
I understand, no problem....What I don't understand is why the Catholic Church is silently paying off victims $4 Billion, to avoid being sued in court, and yet it mostly goes unnoticed:

"According to Jack and Diane Ruhl of the National Catholic Reporter, the Vatican has spent a sickening $3,994,797,060.10 to families in order to avoid being sued in court."

https://yournewswire.com/vatican-4billion-child-sex-abuse-victims/

To hide the grave problem of predatory homosexual acts. The U.S. Bishops support the Democrat party platform for same sex, etc. lifestyles. Why? Most likely because the majority of bishops are homosexual. The problem of predatory homosexual activity is a very large roadblock to the same sex agenda.

I am thrilled to see their allies remove the statute of limitations so the depth and gravity of the problem with the same sex agenda.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 04:03 PM
To hide the grave problem of predatory homosexual acts. The U.S. Bishops support the Democrat party platform for same sex, etc. lifestyles. The problem of predatory homosexual activity is a very large roadblock to the same sex agenda.

I am thrilled to see their allies remove the statute of limitations so the depth and gravity of the problem with the same sex agenda.


The key point I was trying to make was that the Vatican is quitely paying off victims, while trying to avoid being sued in court, even though the victims would have a hard time LEGALLY SUING the Vatican.....The Vatican must know a change in the Courts, both Domestic and Foreign, is coming very soon.

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 04:16 PM
The key point I was trying to make was that the Vatican is quitely paying off victims, while trying to avoid being sued in court, even though the victims would have a hard time LEGALLY SUING the Vatican.....The Vatican must know a change in the Courts, both Domestic and Foreign, is coming very soon.

Again, I doubt it. Remember each individual parish in the U.S. is individually incorporated, limiting financial liability. Also, I don't believe the U.S. government will change its position on the Vatican as a foreign sovereign government. Remember we have an ambassador to the Vatican and vice-a versa.

The real reason is a cover-up of the rampant predatory homosexual acts to protect the same sex agenda.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 04:19 PM
Again, I doubt it. Remember each individual parish in the U.S. is individually incorporated, limiting financial liability. Also, I don't believe the U.S. government will change its position on the Vatican as a foreign sovereign government. Remember we have an ambassador to the Vatican and vice-a versa.

The real reason is a cover-up of the rampant predatory homosexual acts to protect the same sex agenda.


If what you're saying is true, Pope Francis is finished....Might as well resign ASAP.

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 04:29 PM
If what you're saying is true, Pope Francis is finished....Might as well resign ASAP.

Look at his appointments of bishops and Cardinals especially those in high places and important Dioceses, like Chicago. They all are homosexualists clergy.

In Chicago Cupich threatened to call the police to remove, from the parish property, a conservative pastor who burned a gay pride flag, in protest of the predatory homosexual clergy. That priest is now in hiding. https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/priest-gay-flag-removed-cardinal-blase-cupich-paul-kalchik-resurrection-catholic-church/

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 04:34 PM
If what you're saying is true, Pope Francis is finished....Might as well resign ASAP.

Many are calling for his resignation.

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 04:38 PM
The financial harm will come from the faithful. People will stop giving to the bishop's funds and will only give to their local parish. Not giving to the bishop funds will economically cripple the bishops.

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 04:45 PM
"According to Jack and Diane Ruhl of the National Catholic Reporter, the Vatican has spent a sickening $3,994,797,060.10 to families in order to avoid being sued in court."

https://yournewswire.com/vatican-4billion-child-sex-abuse-victims/


To clarify my posts about the cover-up of predatory homosexual acts. The above quote, on yournewswire.com, is not accurate. it is not the Vatican, but the U.S. Church, which paid out that amount of money.

From the National Catholic Reporter article by Jack and Diane Ruhl.

The U.S. Catholic church has incurred nearly $4 billion in costs related to the priest sex abuse crisis during the past 65 years, according to an extensive NCR investigation of media reports, databases and church documents.



That figure is based on a three-month investigation of data, including a review of more than 7,800 articles gleaned from LexisNexis Academic and NCR databases, as well as information from BishopAccountability.org and from reports from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/ncr-research-costs-sex-abuse-crisis-us-church-underestimated

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 04:47 PM
To clarify my posts about the cover-up of predatory homosexual acts. The above quote, on yournewswire.com, is not accurate. it is not the Vatican, but the U.S. Church, which paid out that amount of money.

From the National Catholic Reporter article by Jack and Diane Ruhl.



And the Vatican isn't chipping in?.....C'mon now..:rolleyes:

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 05:01 PM
And the Vatican isn't chipping in?.....C'mon now..:rolleyes:

Are you kidding! The Vatican doesn't give a dime to the dioceses, it is only a one way flow, up. These lawsuits have bankrupted dioceses, that is why the parishes are individual corporations.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 05:08 PM
Are you kidding! The Vatican doesn't give a dime to the dioceses, it is only a one way flow, up. These lawsuits have bankrupted dioceses, that is why the parishes are individual corporations.

Sorry, but the Vatican reassigned those pedo-priests to those dioceses.....No way they're not silently reimbursing them.....I Disagree, and that will be the end of this discussion. Good dialog, SMTW.....

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 05:18 PM
Sorry, but the Vatican reassigned those pedo-priests to those dioceses.....No way they're not silently reimbursing them.....I Disagree, and that will be the end of this discussion. Good dialog, SMTW.....

That is not how it works. The Vatican does not assign anyone or even ordain the vast majority of priests, except the priests who belong to the Bishop of Rome, the Pope.

The priests are sponsored by each bishop or by a religious order, the bishops ordain the priests and priests who belong to religious orders need the permission of the bishop to work in the bishop's diocese.

Rome, the Vatican, has no role in the ordination or the assignment of priests in dioceses, except for Rome itself, and the priests only report to the bishop and/or the superior of their religious order.

The bishops reassigned the priest and that is why the dioceses use to be on the hook as the bishop owned all the property in the diocese.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 05:21 PM
That is not how it works. The Vatican does not assign anyone or even ordain the vast majority of priests, except the priests who belong to the Bishop of Rome, the Pope.

The priests are sponsored by each bishop or by an order, the bishops ordain the priests and priests who belong to religious orders need the permission of the bishop to work in the bishop's diocese.

Rome, the Vatican, has no role in the ordination or the assignment of priests in dioceses, except for Rome itself, and the priests only report to the bishop and/or the superior of their religious order.


If they're in a full scale cover-up, which they are, guaranteed the Vatican has final say on how they're shuffled in and out of ANY DIOCESE in the world...

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 05:27 PM
If they're in a full scale cover-up, which they are, guaranteed the Vatican has final say on how they're shuffled in and out of ANY DIOCESE in the world...

I am not defending the Vatican. I am giving you the factual workings on who controls priests and their assignments.

The Vatican does not have final say on how these predators are shuffled in and out. Each bishop, throughout the world, acts on his own and is independent of the Vatican.

However, I am interested in your source about the Vatican has final say.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 05:36 PM
I am not defending the Vatican. I am giving you the factual workings on who controls priests and their assignments.

The Vatican does not have final say on how these predators are shuffled in and out. Each bishop, throughout the world, acts on his own and is independent of the Vatican.

However, I am interested in your source about the Vatican has final say.


Look at Chilean problem first, then dig from there.....Pope summoned their asses to the Vatican, didn't he?.....Maybe the "Black" Pope was at said meeting...:eek:

Show Me the Wire
09-25-2018, 05:58 PM
Look at Chilean problem first, then dig from there.....Pope summoned their asses to the Vatican, didn't he?.....Maybe the "Black" Pope was at said meeting...:eek:


I am familiar with the Chilean problem. Again, I am not defending the Vatican and I am not saying that the Vatican or that Francis did not have knowledge of how the bishops were covering up the abuses.

If you are alleging that the Vatican came up with this plan, that is an entirely different matter. A matter, in which I have no personal knowledge or experience.

ReplayRandall
09-25-2018, 06:23 PM
If you are alleging that the Vatican came up with this plan, that is an entirely different matter. A matter, in which I have no personal knowledge or experience.


And we'll just leave this conversation on that note...."Q" out.

HalvOnHorseracing
09-25-2018, 09:31 PM
Quit makin’ stuff up Tom...https://pjmedia.com/parenting/demonic-clown-drag-queen-story-time-michelle-obama-public-library/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YOFkVZQ8etE&time_continue=42

Makeup makes him/her seem clownish.

davew
07-10-2019, 10:32 PM
the CBC is pushing drag for kids in the great white north

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkHx6QSqeP4

Tom
07-10-2019, 11:15 PM
I thought this thread was about the woman's soccer team.