Survey: Should Prositituion Be Legal?

[highnote]

I ran across an article about "drive-in brothels" in Switzerland that are supposed to have been very helpful in regulating prostitution.

Should prostitution be legal nationwide in the U.S. and could drive-thru brothers be a solution?

[thaskalos]

I ran across an article about "drive-in brothels" in Switzerland that are supposed to have been very helpful in regulating prostitution.

Should prostitution be legal nationwide in the U.S. and could drive-thru brothers be a solution?

I would support the idea of drive-thru brothels...if it weren't for the unsafe driving conditions that are bound to ensue.

[Augenj]

I would support the idea of drive-thru brothels...if it weren't for the unsafe driving conditions that are bound to ensue.

:lol:

[highnote]

I would support the idea of drive-thru brothels...if it weren't for the unsafe driving conditions that are bound to ensue.

:D

[highnote]

If you voted no, can you explain why prostitution should be illegal nationwide?

First, each state should decide if it should be legal in their state. However, hypothetically, should it be legal nationwide? It's not like people in Nevada have different sexual needs compared to people in Maine.

If it can be taxed and regulated that seems like a better option than what is currently the state of the industry now.

Plenty of wealthy individuals -- men and women -- hire high priced prostitutes. However, they are called something other than prostitutes when wealthy people pay for sex with them -- escorts, gigolos, dates, mistresses, lover, etc.

[Inner Dirt]

It is going to happen anyway, so might as well regulate it and tax it so it becomes positive cash flow for the government, instead of a negative cash flow for law enforcement and incarceration.

[highnote]

It is going to happen anyway, so might as well regulate it and tax it so it becomes positive cash flow for the government, instead of a negative cash flow for law enforcement and incarceration.

:ThmbUp: Good points.

[highnote]

Forgot to post a link to the drive-thru brother story. Here it is:

WARNING -- sexually oriented content:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7103215/sex-box-brothels-zurich-drive-thru-success/

[Dave Schwartz]

My answer is "ABSOLUTELY!"

As my father said over 50 years ago, "Society can be so silly. What makes them think that they can legislate sin out of existence?"

My lifestyle is not such that I would partake in either prostitution or drugs, but would things really be better if we spend resources on putting people behind bars for things that they are going to do anyway?

Ultimately, morality is a personal choice.

Just my opinion.

Dave

[OntheRail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um30Lbu6-nc

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[barahona44]

I'll bet Trump wished it was.

[TJDave]

You mean, outside of marriage?

[highnote]

You mean, outside of marriage?

Is it illegal outside of marriage in Nevada or in other places where it is legal?

[chadk66]

Our cops have far more important things to do than arrest hookers.

[Tom]

I would support the idea of drive-thru brothels...if it weren't for the unsafe driving conditions that are bound to ensue.

Talk about your Happy Meal!:cool:

"Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce,
Special orders don't upset us."

[davew]

I am sure legalization would help lower the human trafficking problem that dims can not see through their rose colored glasses.

[upthecreek]

I'll bet Trump wished it was.

Stormy's an Exotic dancer Her lawyer is the whore

[upthecreek]

Isn't prostitutuion the same as having a wife? You pay for it somehow. :lol:

[barahona44]

Talk about your Happy Meal!:cool:

"Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce,
Special orders don't upset us."

Any "Buy One, Get One Free" coupons? :cool:

[Dave Schwartz]

I am sure legalization would help lower the human trafficking problem that dims can not see through their rose colored glasses.

It probably would.

Especially so since there is an sub-culture of modern day "sex workers" who see it as a completely viable profession.

I have a friend who confided in me about having affairs over the last decade or so with college-age women for money. He's about my age, married, and has engineered a lifestyle that allows him to spend a great deal of time away from home.

His quote to me was, "How else would a guy my age get to have sex with a 19-24 year old woman?"

All this done through websites.

Is it legal? According to him it actually is because of the wording on the sites and the careful wording of the transactional conversation.

Before anyone asks, I do not know of any such websites.

Seriously, I was shocked.

[highnote]

Last night the Yes votes outnumbered the No votes 8 to 2.

Today Yes outnumbers No 26-20. I thought 8-2 was too high, but 26-20 seems a little low. 28-18 seems about right -- 60% in favor of legalized prostitution.

Will be interesting to see what the final numbers are.

[chadk66]

It’s obviously legal in D.C.

[Tom]

Mandatory.

[OntheRail]

It’s obviously legal in D.C.

Yes as of right now we have 534 known whores working out of DC.

[cordoba]

Old horse betting f^c*kers can't get it up anyway.:pound::pound::pound::pound:

[highnote]

Old horse betting f^c*kers can't get it up anyway.:pound::pound::pound::pound:

There are drugs for ED. In fact, those drugs are the main cause for mistresses leaving their sugardaddies. :D

Legal prostitutes would be far cheaper than a mistress.

[Actor]

There are drugs for ED.The don't always work, are damned expensive, and are not covered by insurance.

[highnote]

True story...

I was talking to a woman at work several years ago. She had a 40-something friend who was the mistress of a wealthy man in his 70s. The mistress complained to my co-worker about ED drugs. She said before her sugardaddy started taking ED medication she only had to put out once every month or so. After he started taking the drugs she had to put out a couple of times per week. :pound::pound::pound::lol:

[Inner Dirt]

True story...

I was talking to a woman at work several years ago. She had a 40-something friend who was the mistress of a wealthy man in his 70s. The mistress complained to my co-worker about ED drugs. She said before her sugardaddy started taking ED medication she only had to put out once every month or so. After he started taking the drugs she had to put out a couple of times per week. :pound::pound::pound::lol:


What is the difference between her and a prostitute?

[biggestal99]

Regulated, taxed Freedom.

Legal weed.....yes

Legal escorts...yes

Legal Exchange betting and gambling for all in the united states....Yes.

our puritanical society has major problems with pleasure.

Freedom now to do what we want. Hell in Utah........

this is the United states......freedom is our middle name.

Allan

[MutuelClerk]

I'll bet Trump wished it was.


Not sure that would work for our President. He seems to be condom free and these ladies insist you wear one. Prostitutes classier than politicians. Shocking...

[highnote]

What is the difference between her and a prostitute?

Exactly

[davew]

can a silicone doll be a prostitute? and if you have a few of them can you run a brothel?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6107533/Sex-doll-company-opens-North-American-brothel.html

[highnote]

can a silicone doll be a prostitute? and if you have a few of them can you run a brothel?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6107533/Sex-doll-company-opens-North-American-brothel.html

Gotta love the entrepreneurial mind. :D

[Andy Asaro]

https://twitter.com/DaveVescio/status/1034586242497667072

[Dave Schwartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNLEfmx6Rk

[Tom]

Trump had her.

[Dave Schwartz]

Trump had her.

:lol::lol:

She would likely be cheaper than Stormy.

[dlivery]

Prostitution' Gambling

[highnote]

The youtube video was actually kind of cool. It made wonder... no not in that manner... it made me wonder about the future of these dolls. For example, let's say it becomes possible to cover them with something like an organic skin that could actually repair itself. That would be getting closer to being some sort of animal being. At what point do they become human?

I bet some owners get attached to them and if they got injured or perhaps the magnets in their face changed position nefariously and didn't look the same as before or their personality changed by accident and the settings were lost forever the owners would be very upset.

"Westworld" and "Stepford Wives" comes to mind.

Usually, whatever we think is science fiction now becomes reality later.

Dick Tracy used to be able to communicate through his wristwatch. How long ago was that cartoon written -- 1960s?

I remember hand typing binary computer code from a magazine back in the early 1980s for my Atari computer that would simulate the sound of one piano key. I could see even then that at the pace of computing that someday it would be possible to have musical instruments that could play any sound.

Even in the late 1960s or early 1970s when I first started learning about computers I remember envisioning a small cube about 3" per side that would be able to play music without any moving parts. I didn't know how it would be made, but I understood the concept. It only took about 30 years for it to become reality with the iPod.

It took another 10 years for the first smart phone to hit the market. And that was only in 2007. Now less than 10 years later we have practically the knowledge of the world at our fingertips virtually anywhere.

In "2001 a Space Odyssey" they could communicate by videochat. That film was made in 1968. Now we can do "facetime".

What will sex dolls be like 40 years from now?

[davew]

highnote, if you have not seen it I recommend the movie Ex Machina.

[highnote]

highnote, if you have not seen it I recommend the movie Ex Machina.

Thanks! I'm always looking for movie suggestions. I'll check it out. :ThmbUp:

[VigorsTheGrey]

Thanks! I'm always looking for movie suggestions. I'll check it out. :ThmbUp:
There is lots of free movies on archive.org give it a try...I want to see ex machina also, heard it was good movie...

https://archive.org/details/TranshumanismInExMachinaMovie

[Actor]

Dick Tracy used to be able to communicate through his wristwatch. How long ago was that cartoon written -- 1960s?1931. I think Tracy got the wrist radio in the 1950s.

What will sex dolls be like 40 years from now?You won't be able to distinguish them from a human. I'm basing that on the fact that I'm surrounded by stuff that would have been Sci_Fi when I was a kid and technology is increasing exponentially.

[highnote]

1931. I think Tracy got the wrist radio in the 1950s.

That is not surprising. Two-way radio communications became very important and people must have seen that the communications devices kept getting smaller at a rapid pace. The first two-way radio was said to be used in 1923.

You won't be able to distinguish them from a human. I'm basing that on the fact that I'm surrounded by stuff that would have been Sci_Fi when I was a kid and technology is increasing exponentially.

Sounds like the best is yet to come.

[pandy]

Two things that seem odd to me about our prostitution laws, 1). If a woman can have an abortion because "it's her body and she can do what she wants with it', then why isn't she allowed to sell her body for sex?

2). How is prostitution illegal and pornography legal? In porn, woman are having sex with total strangers for money. The only difference between porn and prostitution is the camera.

I find it all puzzling.

[Inner Dirt]

Two things that seem odd to me about our prostitution laws, 1). If a woman can have an abortion because "it's her body and she can do what she wants with it', then why isn't she allowed to sell her body for sex?

2). How is prostitution illegal and pornography legal? In porn, woman are having sex with total strangers for money. The only difference between porn and prostitution is the camera.

I find it all puzzling.


Good points I always thought of #2, but #1 never popped into my mind. As for #2, could just filming the act get you out of a prostitution charge? No one can prove that it wasn't your first venture into adult film making.

[pandy]

Good points I always thought of #2, but #1 never popped into my mind. As for #2, could just filming the act get you out of a prostitution charge? No one can prove that it wasn't your first venture into adult film making.


That's what I always wondered, why wouldn't a prostitute just keep a camera handy?

[highnote]

That's what I always wondered, why wouldn't a prostitute just keep a camera handy?

In L.A., I believe the actors have to be registered and the industry is regulated.

I suppose you could register as an actor and also produce the films. Then you could pay the talent their day rate for having sex with you on camera, but then never release the film.

How much does a non-star actor charge for an hour of filming -- $500 to $1,000? That's probably in the ball park of what it costs to hire a prostitute?

So what's the difference between a porn actor and a prostitute?

What's the difference between a producer, a talent agent, and a pimp?

[Actor]

Two things that seem odd to me about our prostitution laws, 1). If a woman can have an abortion because "it's her body and she can do what she wants with it', then why isn't she allowed to sell her body for sex?

2). How is prostitution illegal and pornography legal? In porn, woman are having sex with total strangers for money. The only difference between porn and prostitution is the camera.

I find it all puzzling.Pornography is "expression" and is protected by the first amendment.

I'm not so sure that pornography is 100% legal. One of the SCOTUS tests was the "contemporary community standards" test, i.e., in Las Vegas it's art; in Cleveland it's obscene. Did SCOTUS ever flip on that?

[highnote]

Pornography is "expression" and is protected by the first amendment.

I'm not so sure that pornography is 100% legal. One of the SCOTUS tests was the "contemporary community standards" test, i.e., in Las Vegas it's art; in Cleveland it's obscene. Did SCOTUS ever flip on that?

I get your point, but not sure Cleveland is the best city to use to compare sexual views to Vegas. Cleveland is the home of Rock and Roll.

Comparing the sexual views between Dearborn and Vegas might be better since Dearborn has a large muslim population.

Speaking of the First Amendment:

In this video you can see muslim from Dearborn stoning Christians at around the 9 minute mark. Disappointing in a country that is supposed to allow freedom of religion. I wonder if they would have been even more outraged if porn actors were demonstrating? What's more offensive to them -- porn demonstrators or non-muslim religious demonstrators? :

https://clarionproject.org/american-muslims-stone-christians-dearborn-michigan-36/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg

[Actor]

How much does a non-star actor charge for an hour of filming -- $500 to $1,000? That's probably in the ball park of what it costs to hire a prostitute?The Screen Actor's Guild has a lot of clout in Hollywood. An extra gets something like (I'm guessing) $1000 per shooting day. It works something like this.

The producer enters into a contract with the Guild. That contract specifies the number of shooting days, let's say 100 days. Scene 12 and scene 23 needs one extra. Those two scenes are shot over a five day period. So the extra gets 5 x $1000 = $5000. Right?

No. The master contract for the picture specifies 100 shooting days. So Mr. Extra gets $1000 per shooting day for 100 shooting days = $100,000 whether he has his ass in front of the camera or not, provided he makes all his calls ("We will need you today so be there by 7:00 a.m.")

Now you know why it costs $300,000,000 to make a movie.

[Actor]

I get your point, but not sure Cleveland is the best city to use to compare sexual views to Vegas. Cleveland is the home of Rock and Roll.Right. I just picked a city at random. How about Tulsa, Oklahoma, home of Oral Roberts University?

[highnote]

Right. I just picked a city at random. How about Tulsa, Oklahoma, home of Oral Roberts University?

OK. That works. ;)

[VigorsTheGrey]

That's what I always wondered, why wouldn't a prostitute just keep a camera handy?

A camera is also great for blackmail, but both good points.

[highnote]

A camera is also great for blackmail, but both good points.

Never thought about that. Good thing I don't use hookers! How embarrassing would that be? YIKES! :eek:

PS

By the way... PA -- can you add a "pondering" emoji? Something like a person with their hand on their chin with the expression "hmmmmm?".

[HalvOnHorseracing]

The difference between sex you pay for and sex you don't pay for is that sex you don't pay for costs more.

[chadk66]

The difference between sex you pay for and sex you don't pay for is that sex you don't pay for costs more.true statement

[VigorsTheGrey]

I think it would be interesting to ask if:

A. The prostitutes themselves want it legal
B. Their Pimps want it legal
C. Their clients want it legal
D. The Public wants it legal
E. The government wants it legal
F. Lawyers want it legal
G. Health care professionals want it legal

Here’s my take:
A. yes, better pay, working conditions and more benefits
B. No, pushed out by big business
C. Yes, no arrests or fines, less disease
D. No, thinks it’s bad public policy
E. Yes, more revenue, more control
F. No, less legal troubles means less income for them
G. Yes, more transparent opportunity to provide care

[highnote]

I think it would be interesting to ask if:

A. The prostitutes themselves want it legal
B. Their Johns want it legal
C. Their clients want it legal
D. The Public wants it legal
E. The government wants it legal
F. Lawyers want it legal
G. Health care professionals want it legal

Here’s my take:
A. Unsure, maybe yes, less pay but more benefits
B. No, pushed out by big business
C. Yes, no arrests or fines
D. No, thinks it’s bad public policy
E. No, less revenue, less control
F. No, less legal troubles means less income for them
G. Yes, more transparent opportunity to provide care

I don't understand your answer to B. Do you mean Pimps rather than Johns?

I would think E. is true. Gov wants it legal for the tax revenue and more control over how it is administered. Legalizing it creates another layer of bureaucracy which means a larger department and more power for the head of the department which means a larger budget and higher pay.

[VigorsTheGrey]

I don't understand your answer to B. Do you mean Pimps rather than Johns?

I would think E. is true. Gov wants it legal for the tax revenue and more control over how it is administered. Legalizing it creates another layer of bureaucracy which means a larger department and more power for the head of the department which means a larger budget and higher pay.

Yes, thanks got it corrected...!

[VigorsTheGrey]

I think it would be interesting to ask if:

A. The prostitutes themselves want it legal
B. Their Pimps want it legal
C. Their clients want it legal
D. The Public wants it legal
E. The government wants it legal
F. Lawyers want it legal
G. Health care professionals want it legal

Here’s my take:
A. yes, better pay, working conditions and more benefits
B. No, pushed out by big business
C. Yes, no arrests or fines, less disease
D. No, thinks it’s bad public policy
E. Yes, more revenue, more control
F. No, less legal troubles means less income for them
G. Yes, more transparent opportunity to provide care

Correction done.

[RunForTheRoses]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/sex-doll-brothel-craze-hits-toronto-80-whack?page=5#comment-12283062


No Judgement :confused::faint::lol:

[highnote]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-28/sex-doll-brothel-craze-hits-toronto-80-whack?page=5#comment-12283062


No Judgement :confused::faint::lol:

Come on Barbie let's go party. :lol:

This is not the original version, but I like Morgan James:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ReSV3CCRzg

The comment section of the article cracks me up (except for the vulgar, racist ones):

"Every room should come with a phone number the client can ring so they can get some counseling and learn some very important life skills."

[JustRalph]

Trump had her.

Had her.....”has her” is more likely......

[Tom]

There is a new Barbie Doll on the market.
Divorced Barbie.

Comes with half of Ken's accessories.

[VigorsTheGrey]

There is a new Barbie Doll on the market.
Divorced Barbie.

Comes with half of Ken's accessories.
Barbie was the one who made all the money...ken probably did quite well in the split...

[highnote]

Barbie was the one who made all the money...ken probably did quite well in the split...

Depends on which one he married. If he married White Trash Barbie or Looking for a Sugar Daddy Barbie he might be out of luck.

However, if Pimp Daddy Ken married High Class Escort Barbie, he might fare better:

Zahia Dehar: $1,200/Night escort services

Zahia Dehar is almost a replica of the Barbie doll. When you look at her portfolio of photos, you have to wonder if Barbie was her idol. Some of the photos look unreal, as she arches her back into unnatural poses with a body that looks to be the same measurements as the famous Mattel doll. Her fee is $32,000 per month, so we had to deduce her nightly cost. We're guessing she might be more of a "sugar-baby" who prefers the attention of one or two rich admirers.

https://www.therichest.com/luxury/most-expensive/10-women-you-cant-afford-to-spend-the-night-with/

WARNING:

Sexy pictures of high class escorts (no nudity -- sorry):

http://thechive.com/2014/08/06/the-most-expensive-female-escorts-ever-10-photos/

Pretty sure a couple of my high school classmates have sprung for escorts to accompany them to our high school class reunions. No way would some of those chicks be dating those guys. :D

[chadk66]

Any person in favor of abortion due to women's rights could never oppose prostitution without being a complete hypocrit.

[chrisl]

Prostitution has always been legal, since the inception of the Democrat party. Not one arrest.

[highnote]

Last night the Yes votes outnumbered the No votes 8 to 2.

Today Yes outnumbers No 26-20. I thought 8-2 was too high, but 26-20 seems a little low. 28-18 seems about right -- 60% in favor of legalized prostitution.

Will be interesting to see what the final numbers are.

In the final tally, the anti-prostitution crowd outnumbers the pro-prostitution crowd 55%-45%.

I wonder how many people who voted no have actually used the services of prostitutes and how many of the yes voters have never used one? :D