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dilanesp
08-26-2018, 12:13 PM
I stopped by here on my vacation. The track is BEAUTIFUL. Anyone who comes to Boston should pay a visit.
Its almost over for Suffolk. Development rights are sold and its in play for Amazon HQ, and if not that, mixed use commercial, retail and residential.
I like this pic of the subway station because it shows 2 tracks.. Wonderland Greyhound Park also had its own stop. Suffolk all day, Wonderland till midnight, then revere beach for party.
dilanesp
08-26-2018, 12:51 PM
Its almost over for Suffolk. Development rights are sold and its in play for Amazon HQ, and if not that, mixed use commercial, retail and residential.
I like this pic of the subway station because it shows 2 tracks.. Wonderland Greyhound Park also had its own stop. Suffolk all day, Wonderland till midnight, then revere beach for party.
It is a significant loss. This place is really nice.
Yes it is, and its good to focus on that. However, do you read Barstool Sports? I listen to the Sirius XM station because its funny and good. They're all Boston peeps including David Portnoy who's founder , CEO.
I guess he's a real big shot now, up at Saratoga in a shiny blue suit and fancy tie. He looked like a rich kid from connecticut. Twit.
it was Andy Serling? I think it was Andy during a talking horses segment that had him on for an interview about racing and Suffolk Downs comes up.
Where Portnoy says, "Suffolk sucks, I know" and Andy tries to bail him out by saying something like, yea tough times, was a nice track, and David Portnoy then double downs.. No It sucks, but its ok, Its great to be here now.
To which I say... He broke a cardinal rule there. You do not bash your home town while on the road. Never do that! And in NY of all places.
And Suffolk doesn't suck David, YOU suck!
Next time I see him, I intend to bitch slap him out of whatever pussy-ass suit he's wearing.
Afleet
08-26-2018, 02:55 PM
I stopped by here on my vacation. The track is BEAUTIFUL. Anyone who comes to Boston should pay a visit.
I have never been too bad it is going away
lamboguy
08-26-2018, 04:14 PM
there actually were 2 beautiful tracks in New England. Narragansett and Rockingham.
i have an old program fro Gansett that had SEABISCIT. he was #6 in the 5th race on June 26, 1935. back then they were getting ten cents for the program.
TrackingTVG
08-26-2018, 04:25 PM
This is my "home track", and I cant imagine anyone thinking its beautiful. Its a dump that reaks of degenerates.
I will take the 2.5 hour ride for 4 weeks straight to saratoga, rather than spend one day there.
Waquoit
08-26-2018, 04:25 PM
One last card in September. I saw Cigar there. Allen and Madeleine Paulson came by by helicopter. Landed in the infield.
dilanesp
08-26-2018, 05:25 PM
This is my "home track", and I cant imagine anyone thinking its beautiful. Its a dump that reaks of degenerates.
I will take the 2.5 hour ride for 4 weeks straight to saratoga, rather than spend one day there.
I took a bunch of pictures. It is no dump.
This is my "home track", and I cant imagine anyone thinking its beautiful. Its a dump that reaks of degenerates.
I will take the 2.5 hour ride for 4 weeks straight to saratoga, rather than spend one day there.
:lol: Thanks. That was funny. Suffolk does have some history and the infield is pretty. And from a distance, it has charm.
I would not recommend that anybody visit Suffolk Downs right now. Unless you are race track seasoned. It does have a stench. It looks bad, like it died 10 years ago. You're 100% right.
I've been going since I was a kid, and in my 20's-30's it was a big part of my life. Before the internet or social media, Suffolk was our facebook.
That's where friends from Southie to Somerville all got together. Back in those days, the DRF was sold in just about every store in Boston, and you'd get on the T and half the train had a program in hand.
I'm sentimental about the place. I was unhappy that Portnoy bashed it on TV because there is no need for that. I understand what he said is true.
elhelmete
08-26-2018, 06:26 PM
:lol: Thanks. That was funny. Suffolk does have some history and the infield is pretty. And from a distance, it has charm.
I would not recommend that anybody visit Suffolk Downs right now. Unless you are race track seasoned. It does have a stench. It looks bad, like it died 10 years ago. You're 100% right.
I've been going since I was a kid, and in my 20's-30's it was a big part of my life. Before the internet or social media, Suffolk was our facebook.
That's where friends from Southie to Somerville all got together. Back in those days, the DRF was sold in just about every store in Boston, and you'd get on the T and half the train had a program in hand.
I'm sentimental about the place. I was unhappy that Portnoy bashed it on TV because there is no need for that. I understand what he said is true.
This is 1000% true and accurate, and reflects my experience as well. I grew up in the area, and before moving west lived in Winthrop where on a very quiet day I could hear the race calls across Belle Isle.
Was a great place that died years ago, and was on life support before that. Kind of like a high school beauty who never took care of herself after turning 30. A waste. A series of iffy ownership in the past coupled with incompetent state government.
That said...if you squint your eyes...it *IS* a semi-seaside track with excellent public transpo access and proximity of a young population and a city with tremendous sports history. Sounds sort of familiar right?
This is 1000% true and accurate, and reflects my experience as well. I grew up in the area, and before moving west lived in Winthrop where on a very quiet day I could hear the race calls across Belle Isle.
Things were good then. Even Wonderland was a classy place. Wonderland , along with Florida and Arizona were the top Greyhound states. We'd have shippers!!:lol: So funny to think about now. They ran the 100K Grady Sprint for Greyhounds and it was like breeders cup!
Suffolk did a big renovation around the same time, with a nice new club house restaurant. Between the two, we thought we had it by the nuts.
elhelmete
08-26-2018, 06:53 PM
Things were good then. Even Wonderland was a classy place. Wonderland , along with Florida and Arizona were the top Greyhound states. We'd have shippers!!:lol: So funny to think about now. They ran the 100K Grady Sprint for Greyhounds and it was like breeders cup!
Suffolk did a big renovation around the same time, with a nice new club house restaurant. Between the two, we thought we had it by the nuts.
Turf Club is/was nice, the Terrace restaurant is/was nice. Too late now, too bad.
I thought it would be ripe for a smaller version of the new Gulfstream with shopping and local food outlets and a smaller (but nicer) seating selection.
All the students and your professionals...Take the Blue Line from downtown, hop on a cute 1 furlong shuttle from the T stop. Grab a seat at the trackside Santarpio's or Kelly's. Down a few Sam Adams or Wachusetts ales.
lamboguy
08-26-2018, 07:04 PM
when Mosely took the place over, he did a tremendous job cleaning the place up
as far as i know they still have a private room on the 3rd floor that you need to be a member to get in. that room probably will stay open for simulcasting until the place finally closes.
the Stronach group does a great job with their properties and hopefully they open up somewhere in New England.
PaceAdvantage
09-01-2018, 12:37 PM
Even Wonderland was a classy place.Now you've gone a bit too far.
When was Wonderland ever a classy place? :lol:
I used to do the Suffolk by day, Wonderland by night thing back in the day (we're talking late 80s, early 90s). You must be going WAY BACK...;)
I used to drive but both Suffolk and Beulah frequently while traveling for work. Actually, Timonium, too. Never got to stop at any of them due to timing or them being closed when I was there.
Would have loved to hit them all.
We got a lot of Suffolk shippers over the years at Finger Lakes and some riders and trainers as well. We even card a couple of stakes for Mass. breds, two this past week. So the track can "live on" when the time comes with our stakes program. :ThmbUp:
Thomas Roulston
09-01-2018, 06:15 PM
Meanwhile, Green Mountain Race Track in Vermont remains in existence, but forlornly idle - for political reasons that are best not brung up here.
Now you've gone a bit too far.
When was Wonderland ever a classy place? :lol:
I used to do the Suffolk by day, Wonderland by night thing back in the day (we're talking late 80s, early 90s). You must be going WAY BACK...;)
Maybe classy is the wrong word. Wonderland drew crowds, and was a clean, modern attractive place for a few years.
It really was, I'm not being a homer or exaggerating. Restaurants and such.
Maybe I'm just a degenerate who still eats food that I drop on the ground.
soupman2
09-02-2018, 09:29 AM
Used to go on dates to Wonderland. You would have to call a day in advance to get good box seats. Nothing like it on a good summers night.
Bob
Used to go on dates to Wonderland. You would have to call a day in advance to get good box seats. Nothing like it on a good summers night.
Bob
In my previous post, I had typed that I took dates here and they usually loved it Then I removed that because I thought.. nah, people that weren't there wouldn't get it.:D
I had many good times at Wonderland.
09/14/2018 03:30 PM
Hovdey: Suffolk rages against dying of the light
There is no Eclipse Award for resilience or persistence. But if there were, and the floor was open to nominations, the owners, trainers, jockeys, and fans of Suffolk Downs deserve to be on the short list.
https://www.drf.com/news/hovdey-suffolk-rages-against-dying-light
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Suffolk Downs developer awaits Amazon's next move in HQ2 horserace
11 hours ago
City officials have targeted the 161-acre Suffolk Downs site in East Boston and Revere as the primary site to host Amazon’s second headquarters, should the tech giant pick Boston as its next home. But no word from Amazon means no construction has started on the site.
https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2018/09/17/suffolk-downs-developer-awaits-amazons-next-move.html
elhelmete
09-17-2018, 04:42 PM
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Suffolk Downs developer awaits Amazon's next move in HQ2 horserace
11 hours ago
City officials have targeted the 161-acre Suffolk Downs site in East Boston and Revere as the primary site to host Amazon’s second headquarters, should the tech giant pick Boston as its next home. But no word from Amazon means no construction has started on the site.
https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2018/09/17/suffolk-downs-developer-awaits-amazons-next-move.html
I can see my old house!
Brass Hat
09-18-2018, 12:57 PM
Before account wagering and our first big screen TV, my wife and I used to go every Saturday, get a table in the Terrace and play simulcasts. Had the same waitress, very nice lady, the food was OK, the TVs terrible. We
would see the same regulars. The hostess was a nice lady who wintered near Gulfstream.
A guy in his 40's named Joey who would come with his mother and would yell during the NY races. Usually did well. I used to see him at Saratoga on Travers day, back when they had the Siro's seminar, then the Carousel area at Saratoga, and I used to get a kick out of him going up to harangue Andy Beyer if he was the co-host about the Beyer figures. He swore by them.
Suffolk would get large crowds on Saturdays, in the Terrace, and the other restaurant, can't remember the name. On one Preakness day, Wes Welker was sitting at a table with his wife, handicapping and standing in line to wager, no one bothered him. It was fun and crazy. The simulcast on the first floor was nutty, people yelling, arguing, like one of Dante's circles of hell, but with betting on horses and no punishment except losing. I remember being there once after work watching a simulcast and having a series of programs go whizzing by my head from disgruntled patrons leaving.
They had a nice series of handicapping contests at one time. I always remember one on a winter night on a Friday, where they did tracks like Sam Houston, Mountaineer, and a few other tracks running at night. larry Collmus was one of the hosts, could barely stay awake. I remember a first time starter at some obscure track won at a big price and a number of people at the same table had him.
Good times.
bello
09-18-2018, 05:01 PM
Before account wagering and our first big screen TV, my wife and I used to go every Saturday, get a table in the Terrace and play simulcasts. Had the same waitress, very nice lady, the food was OK, the TVs terrible. We
would see the same regulars. The hostess was a nice lady who wintered near Gulfstream.
A guy in his 40's named Joey who would come with his mother and would yell during the NY races. Usually did well. I used to see him at Saratoga on Travers day, back when they had the Siro's seminar, then the Carousel area at Saratoga, and I used to get a kick out of him going up to harangue Andy Beyer if he was the co-host about the Beyer figures. He swore by them.
Suffolk would get large crowds on Saturdays, in the Terrace, and the other restaurant, can't remember the name. On one Preakness day, Wes Welker was sitting at a table with his wife, handicapping and standing in line to wager, no one bothered him. It was fun and crazy. The simulcast on the first floor was nutty, people yelling, arguing, like one of Dante's circles of hell, but with betting on horses and no punishment except losing. I remember being there once after work watching a simulcast and having a series of programs go whizzing by my head from disgruntled patrons leaving.
They had a nice series of handicapping contests at one time. I always remember one on a winter night on a Friday, where they did tracks like Sam Houston, Mountaineer, and a few other tracks running at night. larry Collmus was one of the hosts, could barely stay awake. I remember a first time starter at some obscure track won at a big price and a number of people at the same table had him.
Good times.
Great times. and the scene you described was replayed at racetracks daily coast to coast, just a different set of characters and names, but characters nonetheless. I really miss it.
In Home betting has destroyed that forever. The closest we get are these message boards, but not the same sitting behind a keyboard.
Not dead yet! Suffolk Downs(SSR).
Suffolk Downs claims casino conspiracy (http://www.bostonherald.com/business/business_markets/2018/09/suffolk_downs_claims_casino_conspiracy)
From the lawsuit. (https://www.paulickreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Suffolk-Downs-complaint.pdf)
Page 3 , Paragraph 8
The Wynn Defendants purchased the toxic site from an entity owned jointly by associates of La Cosa Nostra
Page 12
Lightbody is widely understood to
be associated with La Cosa Nostra
Lightbody’s criminal record includes ten assault charges, three counts
of illegal weapons possession, two counts of witness intimidation, and admitted involvement in an
identity theft ring targeting immigrants.
Page 23
Chairman of the Gaming Commission, Stephen Crosby sought to deliver the death-blow to SSR by voting,and urging the other members of the Gaming Commission to likewise vote, to deny renewal ofSSR’s racing license, without basis, which would have disqualified SSR from receiving a gaming
license for failure to “maintain” its racing license.
questioned
Crosby to why he sought to deny Suffolk Downs a racing license for the first time in its history.
There's a healthy amount of National News about Suffolk Downs Lawsuit filed this week. Here's a local with deeper info.
Richard Fields is the money behind suffolk'. George Steinbrenner's son-in law for long time. Developed Casino's with Donald Trump. When they were calling Trump THE Donald, in NYC, they were calling this guy THE Richard in Atlantic City.
The article
http://www.everettindependent.com/2018/09/20/mgc-wrapping-up-wynn-encore-investigation-likely-to-go-public-in-october/
The Massachusetts Gaming Commission (MGC) announced on Thursday, Sept. 13, the investigation of Wynn Resorts and plans to begin looking at the rollout of the investigation on Sept. 27
investigators from the Enforcement Bureau (IEB) were working hard to finalize the investigation. He added that the IEB members were actually in Las Vegas last week working on the investigation.
https://www.picclickimg.com/d/w1600/pict/153190037711_/The-Beatles-1966-Suffolk-Downs-Concert-Ticket-Rarest.jpg
The Massachusetts Gaming Commission (MGC) announced on Thursday, Sept. 13, the investigation of Wynn Resorts and plans to begin looking at the rollout of the investigation on Sept. 27
investigators from the Enforcement Bureau (IEB) were working hard to finalize the investigation. He added that the IEB members were actually in Las Vegas last week working on the investigation.
Tomorrow is? Sept 27th.
30 minutes ago.
Massachusetts Casino Chief Accused of Wynn Favoritism Resigns
Crosby has been accused of favoritism before. Sterling Suffolk Downs, operator of the racetrack that was once considered a prime site for a Boston-area casino, sued Wynn Resorts last week, alleging bias by Crosby.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-26/massachusetts-casino-chief-accused-of-wynn-favoritism-resigns
ultracapper
09-27-2018, 05:38 PM
The Beatles last concert ever was only about a week after that one. What a great piece of history you have in that ticket.
elhelmete
09-27-2018, 06:35 PM
Tomorrow is? Sept 27th.
30 minutes ago.
Massachusetts Casino Chief Accused of Wynn Favoritism Resigns
Crosby has been accused of favoritism before. Sterling Suffolk Downs, operator of the racetrack that was once considered a prime site for a Boston-area casino, sued Wynn Resorts last week, alleging bias by Crosby.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-26/massachusetts-casino-chief-accused-of-wynn-favoritism-resigns
He will be hired by a casino company or a management consulting company with casino clients within 6 months.
He was the big trainer when I started going to Suffolk Downs. He trained for Scorpio Stables. Scorpio had 75 horses and were among the top owners in the game. Jack Penney rode for them.
The Ansara family. They owned Lynnway liquors next to the Building 19, just over the General Edward Everett Bridge, a few miles from Suffolk. They're what got me 1st going to Saratoga, they shipped there every summer.
A friend and horse owner, Wally Shute, told Daily Racing Form Perry donated his body to the University of Miami as part of a study into Parkinson's disease.
Paulick Report (https://www.paulickreport.com/news/people/william-perry-dead-at-71-new-england-stalwart-trained-formal-gold/)
https://twitter.com/SuffolkDowns/status/1070867621401280518
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