Royal Ascot

[jocko699]

Begins tomorrow and races through Saturday. You can get free PPs at Brisnet.com.

Good Luck

[jocko699]

BTW, the great horse Cracksman goes Wednesday in race 4. This is the G1 Prince of Wales stakes at 10 furlongs

[zerosky]

This site has some good (free) info

http://icard.gbiracing.com/

Looking forward to Lady Aurelia in the King's Stand Stakes

[jocko699]

Got business to do tomorrow so betting early.

All bets are $25WS

R1 :10: Recoletos 5-1
R2 :18: No Needs Never 30-1
R3 :9: Washington Dc 12-1
R4 :5: Romanised 5-1
R5 :8: Dannyboy 10-1
R6 :9: Laraaib 5-1

[Track Phantom]

This is a pretty cool racing week. I do some analysis for it. You can get it for free at my website (link below).

Good luck if you're playing.

[upthecreek]

Brisnet has a free Betting guide and free PP's with class ratings for all RA races

[snappit]

At The Races do a very good micro site for Royal Ascot .

http://ascot.attheraces.com/

Just settling down to watch a great weeks racing. Second only to the Cheltenham Festival in March.

[biggestal99]

6/19 Ascot Selections

1430--Queen Anne S.---3 Benbatl---wisest of wise guy hosses. was great in Meydan and trainer has won this race many,many times.

1505--Coventry S.---23 The Irish Rover---OBrien second string is a really, really good horse.

1540--Kings Stand S.---10 Lady Aurelia--Last years easy winner loves the track.

1620--St James Palace S.---7 Tip to win--out to prove his Guineas 2nd was no fluke; Beat the derby winner Masar. Thats good enough form for me.

1700--Ascot S.---15 Stratum--had a great prep in Ireland for this; set up for big run today by champion trainer mullins

1735--Wolferton S.---2 Monarchs Glen--hard hoss to figure out; what happened at Meydan? willing to overlook that one to get a price.

Allan

[Andy Asaro]

https://twitter.com/WHR/status/1009022544882565120

https://twitter.com/Racing_UK/status/1009022974144344069

[BIGTKLO]

NBCSN has great coverage all week beginning today.

[spiketoo]

NBCSN has great coverage all week beginning today.

Yep, because they're taking the ITV feed. Simply splendid!

[stuball]

1st at Ascot 81-1 in the USA pool

[horses4courses]

Nice to see the ITV feed on NBCSN.
Thanks for the heads up!

[horses4courses]

1st at Ascot 81-1 in the USA pool

Big overlay.
33-1 starting price in the UK.

That's where the value is in the US pool on occasion.
High priced long shots. Any horse under 10-1 is usually
poor value due to the takeout. Routinely, a 3-1 shot
will pay 5-2, or less.

Trainer of the winner, Eve Johnson Houghton, is from
one of the blue blood families of UK racing. Her father,
Fulke, trained some of the great Charles Englehard
horses in the late 1960s. He retired in 2006.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulke_Johnson_Houghton

Found it hard to believe that this was Eve's first Royal Ascot winner.
Good for her. :ThmbUp:

[PhantomOnTour]

I'll bet against a Lady Aurelia 3 peat with the 1-2 on top.
If she beats me then mega kudos to her

[horses4courses]

I'll bet against a Lady Aurelia 3 peat with the 1-2 on top.
If she beats me then mega kudos to her

Nice call :ThmbUp:

[KidCapper]

I'll bet against a Lady Aurelia 3 peat with the 1-2 on top.
If she beats me then mega kudos to her

Good Call Phantom!

[jocko699]

Got business to do tomorrow so betting early.

All bets are $25WS

R1 :10: Recoletos 5-1
R2 :18: No Needs Never 30-1
R3 :9: Washington Dc 12-1
R4 :5: Romanised 5-1
R5 :8: Dannyboy 10-1
R6 :9: Laraaib 5-1

-$300. Pretty ffing pathetic. Going to get back on the hog on Thursday.

[letswastemoney]

Disappointing to see Lady Aurelia decline in form. I wonder if they go on with her.

[biggestal99]

6/20 Ascot selections


1430—Queen Mary s.-16 Servalan—-huge run in Ireland. This good?

1505—Queens Vase—-9 Sourthern France—unexposed type should have the goods

1540–duke of Cambridge—3 aljazzi—-nice prep for the race; second last year

1620–prince of wales—2 cracksman—bookies nightmare

1700–royal hunt cup—-5 master merlon—always runs well. Properly weighted?

1735–jersey s.—12 Lake Volta—nicely prepped for this run.

Allan

[PhantomOnTour]

Race 2
Giving the 6 a shot to hit the board at a nice 16-1.
Ex: 8-11 w 6
Tri: 8-11 w 1-5-8-9-11 w 6
Win: 6

[horses4courses]

Aidan O'Brien trains the first three home in the Queen's Vase.
It's taken eight races for him to get off the mark, but it won't
be his last winner of the meet, I'm sure.

[Immortal6]

R4

:1::5:/:1::2::5::6:

ex and tri

[Immortal6]

R5

Let's go with the :8: Tricorn and the Ward horse :5: Master Merion

[stlseeeek]

Nice pick by the blonde on TVG who does the Aussie racing. Was all over the #21, and she got 24/1 for her pocketbook.

[PhantomOnTour]

Race 6
Ex: 8-9 w 5-8-9-14-15-21
Ex: 21 w 8-9
Win: 9

damn these races are tough

[PhantomOnTour]

Race 6
Ex: 8-9 w 5-8-9-14-15-21
Ex: 21 w 8-9
Win: 9

damn these races are tough

There we go!
Finishes 9-15...should pay fairly well 👍

[jocko699]

There we go!
Finishes 9-15...should pay fairly well 👍

Great call!!! See ya tomorrow!

[biggestal99]

6/21 Ascot Selections

1430--Norfolk S.---5 Land Force--OBrien strikes again

1505--Hampton Court S.---9 National Army---The sky is the limit for this son of Dubawi

1540--Ribblesdale S.---1 Wild illusion--G1 winner been a bit disappointing this term looks to get back on track with drop in class.

1620--Gold Cup---two hoss race. Box 2 Order of St George and 9 Stradivarius
in Exacta. Very difficult to choose between the two. Head and withers above the rest here

1700--Britannia S.---5 First Contact--Bumping up to 8F for his acid test.

1735--King George V S.---12 Bagdad--Has come to hand nicely for Johnson; Up in weight. One of the few with a win at the distance.

Allan

[snappit]

Well done America as Shang Shang Shang wins the first. Good to see an International winner here. I'm going to have a small bet in the Gold Cup. I personally don't think it's a shoe in for Stradivarius or Order of St George and think there could be another international winner in Vazirabad. Had an each way bet (that's two bets, a win bet at full odds and a win,2nd and 3rd place at 1/5th odds). Got 11/2 so even a 2nd or 3rd will get me my money back with a very small profit and a win will be a bonus.

[WP1981]

I have to say I really enjoy these 6 race cards. I find that I am enjoying them more, betting more and looking forward to the next day.

Seems like on our big days I am exhausted by the 9th, the feature isnt until the 12th and oh by the way we tacked on 2 allowances in the 13th and 14th.

Ascot has it right.

[letswastemoney]

Handicapping each Royal Ascot race takes a lot of time. Without running lines or speed figures, the only way to do this is watch replays of past races.

[WP1981]

Handicapping each Royal Ascot race takes a lot of time. Without running lines or speed figures, the only way to do this is watch replays of past races.


Aside from the 30 horse fields, I feel like I have seen most of them run a few times with a quick refresher.

[TheGarMan]

I have to say I really enjoy these 6 race cards. I find that I am enjoying them more, betting more and looking forward to the next day.

Seems like on our big days I am exhausted by the 9th, the feature isnt until the 12th and oh by the way we tacked on 2 allowances in the 13th and 14th.

Ascot has it right.

I agree 100% -- :ThmbUp:

And, they manage to do it all in less than 30 min between races..

And they post quick photo finishes..

And take bets as low as a 1$ (on Twinspires at least)


I'm not going to lie, I learned alot this week!

[Andy Asaro]

https://twitter.com/Ascot/status/1009789045340364800

[biggestal99]

Handicapping each Royal Ascot race takes a lot of time. Without running lines or speed figures, the only way to do this is watch replays of past races.

I know most of the horses and trainers (Thanks to my friend Dave who is a wizz at euro racing, he also taught me how to handicap euros).

I lost my dependance on speed figs.

I watch the races on TVG every day available.

and I bet the exchange on euro racing.

Allan

[biggestal99]

6/22 Ascot Selections

1430--Albany S.---18 stillwater cove--drifting odds but very fast

1505--King Edward VII S.---4 Giuseppe Garibaldi---coming on nicely for Obrien

1540--Commonwealth Cup---15 Sioux Nation --Eating O'Brien chalk. Yummy. won last year at Ascot.

1620--Coronation S.---7 Clemmie--Desperately needed last; G1 winner set up for win

1700--Sandringham S.---9 Poetic Charm--Well bred and unexposed; a deadly combination.

1735--Duke of Edinburgh S.---20 Count Calabash--won course/Distance last out; up in weight but still well handicapped.

Allan

[WP1981]

Just missed there in the opener with La Pelosa. Thought for sure I would have it 30 yards from the wire.

Win betting both and ex b

2nd 7-9
3rd 6-11
4th 1-10
5th 3-4
6th 4-8

[PhantomOnTour]

Race 3:
#14 Sands Of Mali

[snappit]

Just a couple of bets at Ascot for me today.

4.20. I think this is actually quite an open race and at the odds I have gone for Coeur De Beaute at 12/1 each way first three places. She finished a neck second to Teppal last time but is double the odds.

5.35. I like longshots in these and Sir Chauvelin could run a decent race back up in trip from las time. At 40/1 a decent each way bet.

[PhantomOnTour]

Race 3:
#14 Sands Of Mali

Used him under six horses and bet to win, but didn't have the winner.
Damn

[MutuelClerk]

Race 4. 8-3510 First and second in exacta. Tri key. 8WP

[WP1981]

Rough go for me so far today after a good meet so far. 2 to go.

Somehow the itv fashion segments arent nearly as annoying as ours are. #watchmeneighneigh

[snappit]

Well pleased with my selection Sir Chauvelin at 40/1 in the last. If he'd had a better run he may have even have made it very close. Still backed it each way and got to be happy with 1/4 the odds (10/1) for the 2nd place.:)

[biggestal99]

6/23 Ascot selections

1430—Chesham s.—10 Natalie’s toy—monster first run; much more to come

15:05—Hardwicke S.—3 Crystal Ocean—hard to look past; tons the best

15:40–Windsor Castle S.—16 North wind—O’Brien bomber has not shown best.

16:20—Diamond jubilee S.—-9 Redkirk Warrior—you can never go home again; Aussie invader won at ascot way back in 2014 under the name redkirk

17:00—wokingham s.——7 Dreamfield—very talented and lightly raced

17:35—queen Alexandra—11 Thomas Hobson—Chalkie ending to a wonderful meet

Allan

[TheGarMan]

6/23 Ascot selections

1430—Chesham s.—10 Natalie’s toy—monster first run; much more to come

15:05—Hardwicke S.—3 Crystal Ocean—hard to look past; tons the best

15:40–Windsor Castle S.—16 North wind—O’Brien bomber has not shown best.

16:20—Diamond jubilee S.—-9 Redkirk Warrior—you can never go home again; Aussie invader won at ascot way back in 2014 under the name redkirk

17:00—wokingham s.——7 Dreamfield—very talented and lightly raced

17:35—queen Alexandra—11 Thomas Hobson—Chalkie ending to a wonderful meet

Allan

Thanks for these selections.. I'll be piggy backing on many of your same picks!- Very much enjoying the racing this morning!


Good luck!

[horses4courses]

:19: Sabre may outrun his odds.

This horse is well meant.
Trainer Richard Fahey won this race before with a horse he rated lower.

Huge field and questionable draw in stall 27, though, so he's no cinch.
Still, hoping for 10-1+ on the US tote.

[Lemon Drop Husker]

:19: Sabre may outrun his odds.

This horse is well meant.
Trainer Richard Fahey won this race before with a horse he rated lower.

Huge field and questionable draw in stall 27, though, so he's no cinch.
Still, hoping for 10-1+ on the US tote.


Nearly got it done. Impressive selection in a 28 horse field. :ThmbUp:

[horses4courses]

Nearly got it done. Impressive selection in a 28 horse field. :ThmbUp:

Thanks....he did run a big race, without the smoothest of trips.
Still, he never quite looked like getting by the winner.

Went off at 17-1 on DRF Bets and paid $10 to show.

Yours truly bet him to win :bang:

I'd make the same bet again, though.

[TheGarMan]

Ugh... I had the :4: "Harry Angel" there...

I feel robbed :D

Just glad he was ok.

[WP1981]

Ugh... I had the :4: "Harry Angel" there...

I feel robbed :D

Just glad he was ok.

They were saying jock gave them the go ahead not knowing his hind leg was on the other side of the gate. :puke:

[snappit]

Trainer has reported Harry Angel has a puncture wound on his leg. Vet is taking care of him but hopefully it won't be too serious. Very unfortunate incident.

[WP1981]

So the bookies have the option of declaring a horse a non starter and refunding on an individual basis due to an unfair chance. I have seen some refund on certain horses while others do not.

Following twitter and watching people get absolutely livid they wont refund the massively backed Harry Angel after refunding a long shot earlier today for much less of an issue.

I guess the beat goes on everywhere. At least they have several people to plead a case with and yell at. We get none of that lol.

[TheGarMan]

So the bookies have the option of declaring a horse a non starter and refunding on an individual basis due to an unfair chance. I have seen some refund on certain horses while others do not.

Following twitter and watching people get absolutely livid they wont refund the massively backed Harry Angel after refunding a long shot earlier today for much less of an issue.

I guess the beat goes on everywhere. At least they have several people to plead a case with and yell at. We get none of that lol.

I don't mind taking my lumps, but at least let me run in the race :rolleyes:

[PhantomOnTour]

What a great meet...look forward to it every year. Did pretty well this time. I avoid those 30 horse fields and generally stick to the Group races.
Old school handicapping using class and preference of ground (good, soft etc etc) did the trick for me this year.
Also avoid the 2yr old racing. Not enough form for me to go on.
Can't wait until next year

[snappit]

So the bookies have the option of declaring a horse a non starter and refunding on an individual basis due to an unfair chance. I have seen some refund on certain horses while others do not.

Following twitter and watching people get absolutely livid they wont refund the massively backed Harry Angel after refunding a long shot earlier today for much less of an issue.

I guess the beat goes on everywhere. At least they have several people to plead a case with and yell at. We get none of that lol.

No, the bookies cannot declare a horse a non starter, only the stewards can do that officially and in that case the bookies would have made what is called a rule 4 deduction on winning bets so they can balance their books. They can of course decide to refund stakes if they want to be generous and get a bit of good publicity (to pretend they're actually nice people) but that would have given them a huge loss (some would have been hundreds of thousands of pounds) on the race as they would have had to pay out full odds on the winner and not been allowed to make a rule 4 deduction. There was a stewards enquiry after the race and the jockey said he did indicate to the starter that everything was OK and he should start the race. No fault on anyone.

The case earlier in the week was different as it was a long shot and wouldn't affect the bookies margins too much and I understand it was only one or two bookies that did it. The unfortunate thing is that those getting angry are just talking through their pockets, it would have been nice if a few more of them cared about the welfare of the horse. You place a bet and take your chance, these things happen in racing.

[biggestal99]

Thanks for these selections.. I'll be piggy backing on many of your same picks!- Very much enjoying the racing this morning!


Good luck!

Dreamfield---Rats......

every bookie was quaking in his shoes.

and then the bomber won sending the bookies home happy.

I was an up and down meet for me. I had a few nice priced winners. but many losers. Ascot will keep you humble.

Allan