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Redboard
06-05-2018, 10:40 PM
Some feel that this is a jockey's race so for the last 20 Belmonts, here are the jocks who hit the board (1st, 2nd or 3rd). They got 3 points if they came in first, 2 for second, and 1 for third.

MadVindication
06-06-2018, 09:53 AM
Thanks, nice to have that info in one place.

Looks like Blended Citizen has the most inexperienced jock on his back relative to the field. Not saying anything bad about Frey. Just makes me want to exclude Blended from placing on my tickets at least, considering the horses level of experience in tandem.

But, jockeys all earn those scores starting somewhere. I have no idea if the Belmont is a race which evens the playing field or if it's the opposite and, like the Kentucky Derby, the strong trend is first timers or less experienced in the race don't tend to hit the top spots.

TheGarMan
06-06-2018, 10:31 AM
Maybe I just haven't had my second cup of coffee yet, but I believe Gary Stevens may be listed twice. (Thereby throwing off his numbers).

He is listed once 9 down as G Steven and again later as G Stevens.

Plus this list would obviously have higher total point impact for older jocks who have run the race many times. This could skew your mind to discounting the work of younger jocks who are good at Belmont but appear lower on the list (Ortiz Brothers) or not on the list at all (Kyle Frey)

Either way, good luck to all!

Redboard
06-06-2018, 12:18 PM
Thanks GarMan. Here is the updated one.

Yes, it should have another column called "Attempts." Why don't you have another cup of coffee and dig it out for us? :)

:coffee:

Tom
06-06-2018, 01:10 PM
Nice, Redboard. (as opposed to nice Redboard!:D )
Thanks!

I think jockey is one of the main factors for the Belmont.
Belmont is like no other track in the country, and it's not the beer prices!
Jocks unfamiliar with the huge track may likely want to move too soon, thinking that like other tracks, they can move early on the turn and and open up on the field. There is a lot of real estate from the start of the turn to the finish line.
Watching reruns of many past Belmonts on TVG this week, a lot of horses make that early move and die in the stretch.

That stretch run looked like it was a mile itself when Smarty Jones was slowing
down through it.

If you are looking at a ride who has not ridden at Belmont before, I'd look to see that he gets a prep race this week, especially in the Suburban on Friday.

f2tornado
06-06-2018, 01:21 PM
Good stuff. I was looking at similar numbers. Over the past 12 years, Johnny V has hit the exacta 33% of the time. Castellano 25%. I'd be leery leaving those two guys entirely out of an exacta ticket.

NY BRED
06-07-2018, 09:55 AM
Good stuff. I was looking at similar numbers. Over the past 12 years, Johnny V has hit the exacta 33% of the time. Castellano 25%. I'd be leery leaving those two guys entirely out of an exacta ticket.

fyi:

Mike Smith is quite familiar with the NY Circuit, rode regularly years ago.

PoloUK6108
06-07-2018, 09:59 AM
Good stuff. I was looking at similar numbers. Over the past 12 years, Johnny V has hit the exacta 33% of the time. Castellano 25%. I'd be leery leaving those two guys entirely out of an exacta ticket.

Johnny has 20 mounts and 2 wins, Javier 10 mounts and 0fer....they seem due

Redboard
06-07-2018, 10:14 AM
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