if it aint azari then its got to be lukas

[freeneasy]

d wayne went and lost touch with reality again. what kind of a move was that, running her right back on 26 days rest after a hard race last race and that last race being the 5th race shes had without a breather on top of giving her 2 works in between making the last work a 1:11:3 6f blowout. i mean all that may seem to be fine but then he puts her in at a mile and a quarter, and that being an 1/8 of a mile longer then her last race and at a distance she has never gone before in her entire career, a mile and a quarter.
it just seems to me d wayne has lost all sense or just has no sense of timing and distance and training with this great mare.
i mean all he's got to do is look at the form and see how this one runs her best races and how laura de souix pattered and spaced those races so shes at her best when she does run. i mean d wayne won with her first out at 1 1/16 and rightfully so and then he kills her at 7f and again at a mile against males, then he puts her in 19 days later at a nice 1 1/16 where she falls completely apart, then he gives her her 5th race in a row but this one at least is in a more sensible 42 days from the last out and at her good distance of a mile and an eigth but i mean he just worked the shit out of her up to this race, and she won i'll say that but more then likely she won all on her own courage.
then today. she just shouldnt have been in there. no rest, wrong distance ( for the third time in six races), bad timing, bad spacing, bad judgement and bad overall training. it just hasnt been a good campaing for this horse and it will probably be best if they dont run her in the breeders cup. i know paulson is licking his chops at what her offspring will bring if she wins another breeders cup and thats probably what this whole thing has been all about but the way she has been handled i'am very doubtful weather she's able to carry or going to be able to carry a breeders cup win with her for this year.
shes had 21 races and 6 losses and d wayne has had 4 of those 6 losses. i tell ya right now paulson and lukas are looking like the two biggest idiots in horse racing. bad for azeri because with the way i see it i think she could have probably of won another breeders cup race. but not like this she cant, not like this. and if they keep her running like this up to the breeders cup they'll probably break her down before she gets there.

[freeneasy]

the six race she has had without a breather

[PaceAdvantage]

Hey armchair quarterback....why not post this before the race? It's easy to criticize a second place finish after the fact...

I think she ran a hell of a race. With a better ride, she would have been an easy winner.

She has incredible heart and guts.

I've gained 1000x more respect for Azeri this year then I have EVER HAD during her previous championship campaigns.

[PaceAdvantage]

Oh, and here we go again with the "break down" shit. I don't use the word shit often around here, but your post is shit.

She ran a great race...second is no disgrace. She was trying a new distance....why not?

WHY NOT? What the hell was wrong with what the connections did? I didn't hear you bitching before the race. But, she runs second, and you're now the training genius.....

God forbid she doesn't WIN EVERY RACE she's entered in right????? What foolish nonsense.

What are you thinking man? Give the Lukas and Paulson bashing a rest. She got beat, it happens all the time. It will happen again. Secretariat got beat. Smarty Jones got beat. They all got beat.

At least her connections aren't a bunch of pussys when it comes to racing their star. And I don't use the word pussy lightly around here either, but I heard it on NYPD Blue, so it's ok.

[PaceAdvantage]

BTW, I have cooled off a bit, and would like to let everyone know that I just had to get that stuff off my chest regarding Azeri....

If anyone wants to bash Lukas or Paulson, feel free. I won't go off on you like I just did.....it's out of my system....for now anyway.....

LOL


:eek:

[JustRalph]

I love it when you talk dirty!!!


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Shacopate]

The fractions were:

23 46.1 109.3 135.4 203.3

Internally,

23 23.1 23.2 24.1 27.4

Considering that Azeri was battling for the win at the end and Roar Emotion finished about 20 lenghts behind in last, I'd say this was a tremendous effort and impressive performance.

[Derek2U]

AZERI is a CHAMP. I don't know about Lukas' handling or what
motivates Paulson but AZERI is a Grade 1 force.

[freeneasy]

shes lost 4 out of 6 races with lukas, 3 of those 4 loses being put at a distance that she didnt belong at and one in a race and at a distance where she definetly didnt belong. a mile and a quarter? she got beat in a 5 horse field by a good horse who was 3 1/2 back at the 1/4, 6 back at the 1/2, 7 at the 3/4s to lose by 1 1/2 in 2:03:3. she got tired when she couldnt go no more and got run down. sure horses lose races their supposed to win, like you say, happens all the time, but with this mare 4 loses in 6 races is not the exception to the rule meaning yeah, paulson and lukas aint a couple of pussies when it comes to running their star, no, their just a couple of guys who cant see this mare for what she is, a great horse that excells at a mile and a sixteenth and a mile and an eight. lukas and paulson are just doing whats best for this horse while their putting her thru the worst campange of her life. what next a mile and three eights on the turf?
you can usually bet half the house on this horse cause when she runs its nothing but free money i dont care what the odds 2-5, 3-5, 4-5, its free money shes paid the rent a few times. iam way ahead on this horse. i played her in the apple blsm and got 2-1. next 3 could you really, really bet this horse with all confidence? and the point is even if you didnt bet him did you really believe that she was going to win any one of those next 3 races and i mean with all confidence. i couldnt. and if you say no you couldnt then it shows what you might think about the way lukas is handleing this horse. badly.
today the bet was on lukas not azeri, on lukas, that after winning with this horse at 1 1/16 and 1 1/8 he would have finally learned and would now know what the best thing for this horse is and how to best race her, and with all these new things crap that he has been trying out with azeri and brilliently failing at he sure as hell wasnt a bet today, not at a mile and a quarter and not at 3-5 my friend.
and by the time i finished up with my work and got home the whole day was over and it didnt really matter to me weather i said anything about this before or after the fact or at all, i just felt like saying something about it at the time i wrote it without really considering it to be an armchair opinion. i realize your adement about this subject and i thought id just say something to get you all psed off and riled up. just kidding, just kidding:D

[linrom1]

The race will go down in history as a throw-out as again Bailey seemed intent on playing the role of a spoiler when he's not on one of the leading horses in the field.

The race also points out why most people do not consider Pat Day as a top jockey. By allowing Azeri to be pressed by a horse that has no chance whatsoever to win at 1 1/4, Pat illustrates why he is such a mediocre rider. Now if he was facing a real challenger such as Adoration that would be entirely a different situation.

Bailey does make a powerful case for himself though, and I can't fault Lucas for finding such as easy field, except for sticking with a dim jockey, this race was a no-contest.

[Tom]

I was at the SPA yesterday and I have to offer an apology to PA for ever doubting Azeri. She looked like a fire-breathing devil going to the track-she looks every bit the champion. Even Lukas was looking especially daper yesterday-I don' t remeber the tie, new for the race?
Bubbles was with me at the paddock and he took a picture of her backside for the new wallpaper for his cell phone.
Did I mention that Bubbles is really 8 feet tall in real life! Yikes. I was looking up to him all day. LOL
But Azeri had it against her with the distance and the fact she had a tough front runner to deal with. Considering the frations, she ran a terrific race just getting the place. Champions don't duck the tough races...they go out there and run. Azeri got my respect yesterday like never before.
I don't think you have to worry about her breaking down. Lukas, however, appeared to be walking short, but it is hard to tell-the sun glasses hide his expressions. :rolleyes:

[CryingForTheHorses]

Originally posted by PaceAdvantage
BTW, I have cooled off a bit, and would like to let everyone know that I just had to get that stuff off my chest regarding Azeri....

If anyone wants to bash Lukas or Paulson, feel free. I won't go off on you like I just did.....it's out of my system....for now anyway.....

LOL


:eek:

Good for you PA..Glad to see you have feelings!!..This is a nice filly!..Hopefully they will rest her and come back for another Breeders Cup win.

[PaceAdvantage]

Here's the deal. She's never raced at 10 furlongs, so how can anyone say it wouldn't suit her. Why not take the shot?

If they wanted to run her on grass, I'd say go for it as well!! If they didn't experiment with Cigar, we'd never have been fortunate enough to go along for his ride.


And as for Bailey screwing with another champion, I don't buy it. The horse Bailey was riding was a confirmed front runner. He had no choice but to go out early.

The real question is, why did Pat Day engage Roar Emotion even before they hit the far turn???? Why not wait to make your move entering the stretch?

Freeneasy says Lukas/Paulson have lost with Azeri four of six times already. However, you might be missing a very important point:

Pat Day has lost with Azeri 3 of 4 times.

[CryingForTheHorses]

Hopefully, Mike Smith will be reunited with her,Not sure if it was Paulson who took him off the horse, I kind of think DWayne has had his choice of who he wants to ride,Could be wrong, But has Mike rode for him a lot? Also makes me wonder if the filly needs a rest as she has been running hard.;Fillies in the fall that have been rested are usaully ready to roll.Hope the stable does the right thing and look after her issues if she has any, Im sure she does as she is a runner

[freeneasy]

and if you do want to try her at a new distance fine then point her towards the race with that exact distance in mind. get her set for it, make her ready.
from the beginning i doubt all along that it was the intention of lukas and paulson to make the 'personal ensign' a key to her campange during their pursuit of another breeders cup victory. i doubt it very much.
i think they decided after some bad decisions that if she runs a good enough race in the "go for wand" at a mile and an eigth then to just go ahead and try her at a mile and a quarter and see what she gets albeit not so lackadaisial as i just put it, and i think that thats about all the preperations she was given for this race. "well if she bounces back and runs a good enough race in the go for wand, then we can give her the mile and a quarter and see how she does in that" bs.
how do i know what they were thinking? i dont.
but the tel tale signs are such that if you really want to prepare a horse to get a 1 1/4, you dont put her thru a wacked out program like those 3 middle losses to get her there and then expect her to win at 1 1/4 because she ran a winning race last out. they did. and because she won her last race doesnt mean she was ready for the "personal ensign" if she had been given better selected races prior to the "personal ensign" then she may very well have been good enough, physically shaped and ready to handle anything coming her way in the "pe"
what iam saying is if she was a little better "fitted" here then she probably could have finished up in a good enough final time to have won that race, even in spite of going thru those early fractions. so i think that they simply felt that azeri ran a good enough race last out to go ahead and give her a try at a mile and a quarter.
and iam saying this, you just dont try a horse like this at a mile and a quarter cause she wins a race, you point her to it. and you dont point her to it ass first the way p&l did.
this race wasnt on the map cause if it was, she could have been and should have been pointed to it in a much better fashion. and had this been the case she would have won.
this horse is not supposed to lose and i dont think lukas can say " well we did everything that could be done to get this horse ready for the "personal ensign, but she just lost, what can you do" baloney.
azeri is a champion and a speacialist and to change geers on her as radically as this and in her 6 year old season, well i say she could use a nice tall drink, a handsome stud a new owner and a new trainer.:D

[PaceAdvantage]

You want to know the real reason they ran her at a mile and a quarter?

I read the other day Paulson was contemplating running Azeri in the Breeders' Cup Classic, which even *I* don't agree with.

Perhaps this was his (Paulson's) way of seeing whether this little thought of his should be further entertained. Seeing if she can get the distance....

I'm surprised none of the Paulson/Lukas bashers have brought up the fact that Paulson has whispered the words "Breeders' Cup CLASSIC" in the press recently. I thought you guys would be all over it....

[PaceAdvantage]

Hey free, of course they were pointing her to the Personal Ensign. There aren't any other marquee Grade 1 races for fillies and mares coming up anytime soon unless you want to back to Belmont Park, which is something I don't think team Azeri is going to do.

That's probably another major reason she ran in the Personal Ensign....she ain't going back to Belmont....

[racko]

How about GREAT HORSE Cant we all just get along?

[Tom]

PA wrote:
"I'm surprised none of the Paulson/Lukas bashers have brought up the fact that Paulson has whispered the words "Breeders' Cup CLASSIC" in the press recently. I thought you guys would be all over it...."

Some of us have learned our lesson!
;)

[Buddha]

I think she ran a very courageous and gutsy race. Any horse running a 109.3 and holding on to just lose going 10 furlongs has a ton of heart. I think Day's move may have been a bit premature, but she ran one hell of a race.

Cudos to Azeri