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Tom
03-30-2018, 10:36 PM
Thought we cold get some conversations going Saturday.
Lots of good betting races on tap.

Here's a layout of the track, showing where all the races will be starting.

http://www.emiratesracing.com/racecourses/track-meydan-racecourse

Tom
03-30-2018, 10:47 PM
:9: Heavy Metal
:8: Economic Model

Look to be the top two in here.

:2::10::12: might be up to fill out the exotics.

Tom
03-30-2018, 10:52 PM
:5::10::14: top three, but look for the :1: to surprise in here

jocko699
03-30-2018, 10:53 PM
Thought we cold get some conversations going Saturday.
Lots of good betting races on tap.

Here's a layout of the track, showing where all the races will be starting.

http://www.emiratesracing.com/racecourses/track-meydan-racecourse

I expect you up before the 1st with me than.

GMB@BP
03-30-2018, 11:02 PM
Before anyone bets any real money on these races I suggest watching this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv5isgC8uNA

GMB@BP
03-30-2018, 11:03 PM
West Coast looks like a cinch to me. Maybe Gunnavera takes some silly money. I could see the mare running second, its just not a good field.

jocko699
03-30-2018, 11:34 PM
Before anyone bets any real money on these races I suggest watching this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv5isgC8uNA

Thanks G for that. It can be unreal in the desert!!!!!

depalma113
03-30-2018, 11:41 PM
It's been an inside speed bias all meet.

horses4courses
03-30-2018, 11:48 PM
It's been an inside speed bias all meet.

I've heard that too.
Watching some early races could be valuable.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-30-2018, 11:50 PM
West Coast looks like a cinch to me. Maybe Gunnavera takes some silly money. I could see the mare running second, its just not a good field.

The field isn't great, but West Coast certainly doesn't tower above it.

Talismanic is the horse many are forgetting about. He won the BC Turf at 12 panels. He takes to dirt, there will be no quit in that guy.

I just don't see the American horses with the early pace to separate the field.

Talismanic and Mubtaahij look very dangerous in here to me.

jay68802
03-31-2018, 12:18 AM
The field isn't great, but West Coast certainly doesn't tower above it.

Talismanic is the horse many are forgetting about. He won the BC Turf at 12 panels. He takes to dirt, there will be no quit in that guy.

I just don't see the American horses with the early pace to separate the field.

Talismanic and Mubtaahij look very dangerous in here to me.

yep.

GMB@BP
03-31-2018, 01:34 AM
The field isn't great, but West Coast certainly doesn't tower above it.

Talismanic is the horse many are forgetting about. He won the BC Turf at 12 panels. He takes to dirt, there will be no quit in that guy.

I just don't see the American horses with the early pace to separate the field.

Talismanic and Mubtaahij look very dangerous in here to me.

If Gun Runner wasnt in the last two races then this horse would be riding a 6 race win streak with open lengths wins in the biggest races, no one in here has dirt form close to that.

depalma113
03-31-2018, 06:46 AM
If Gun Runner wasnt in the last two races then this horse would be riding a 6 race win streak with open lengths wins in the biggest races, no one in here has dirt form close to that.

Collected does not agree with you.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 06:46 AM
If Gun Runner wasnt in the last two races then this horse would be riding a 6 race win streak with open lengths wins in the biggest races, no one in here has dirt form close to that.

Against 3YOs.

At some point in time you have to run against better horses.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 07:16 AM
R1 Godolphin Mile

No sleep for the wicked.

Kimbear has made some nice cash since being shipped across the pond. While whipped in 2 of his 4 races, he hasn't finished out of the Exacta on this track. :14: Raven's Corner who spanked him 2 back is coming in off a far from glamorous effort.

While Kimbear is a 'deserving' favorite. The Japanese horses are nice prices and :10: Secret Amibition isn't a slouch.

Price hunting with the :5::10::11: and maybe the :7: can sneak in on the bottom.

jocko699
03-31-2018, 07:34 AM
Morning all,

Let's start with a $1 P3

Race 1

:2: / :4:, :6:, :9: / :1:, :5:

GL

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 07:36 AM
Morning all,

Let's start with a $1 P3

Race 1

:2: / :4:, :6:, :9: / :1:, :5:

GL

Singling a 12/1 to kick it off.

We should be best friends. :headbanger:

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 07:42 AM
:4: Musawaat getting action.

Gotta include.

:4::10:/:4::10::11::12:/:4::7::8::9::10::11::12:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 07:47 AM
:4: Musawaat getting action.

Gotta include.

:4::10:/:4::10::11::12:/:4::7::8::9::10::11::12:

:4: looks great on the track.

Tee
03-31-2018, 07:47 AM
Gave :6: Special Fighter a look here in the Godolphin Mile.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 07:50 AM
Hmm..

:9: Heavy Metal romped.

jocko699
03-31-2018, 07:52 AM
Hmm..

:9: Heavy Metal romped.

And the :2: took advantage of that inside post:rolleyes:

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 07:53 AM
And the :2: took advantage of that inside post:rolleyes:

Reminiscent of the Thunder Snow break in last year's Kentucky Derby. :faint:

Same # and post.

depalma113
03-31-2018, 07:53 AM
Inside speed bias continues. 5 at 35-1 hangs on for 3rd. Winner wires the field.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 07:56 AM
Inside speed bias continues. 5 at 35-1 hangs on for 3rd. Winner wires the field.

Didn't see many horses passing anybody in the stretch.

I could be in for an expensive morning. :pout:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 07:57 AM
Didn't see many horses passing anybody in the stretch.

I could be in for an expensive morning. :pout:

Still the gaps were not as bad as I thought they'd be...............but?:pout:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 08:00 AM
Gotta come right back.

-$6

Race 2

$1 P3

:4:, :6:, :9: / :1:, :5:/ :4:, :5: = $12

GL

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 08:02 AM
Still the gaps were not as bad as I thought they'd be...............but?:pout:

Put them tarot cards down and quit reading my mind.:D

I always look for some kind of positive out of my 'capping from the previous race as well. And you found my exact "positive". "Well, it wasn't as bad as it could have been...." . :pound:

depalma113
03-31-2018, 08:02 AM
75% of all dirt winners this meet have been on the lead at the half mile pole.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 08:04 AM
75% of all dirt winners this meet have been on the lead at the half mile pole.

:bang:

So you're saying I need to take a nap and then bet Gulfstream.

I'm too stupid to do that.

jocko699
03-31-2018, 08:09 AM
:bang:

So you're saying I need to take a nap and then bet Gulfstream.

I'm too stupid to do that.

I was thinking I was gonna nap until the PanAm:headbanger::headbanger:

depalma113
03-31-2018, 08:10 AM
:bang:

So you're saying I need to take a nap and then bet Gulfstream.

I'm too stupid to do that.

There's always the turf races to play.

Tee
03-31-2018, 08:17 AM
:3: Chaddad

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 08:17 AM
R2 Dubai

:9: Nafees

jocko699
03-31-2018, 08:21 AM
:10: still undefeated and I haven't cashed.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 08:21 AM
Undefeated horse that wasn't getting bet. :rant:

So much dust being kicked up on this track. Can easily see why nobody can close.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 08:23 AM
:10: still undefeated and I haven't cashed.

I'm disgusted. Had him marked to bet, and was too stupid to follow through.

Got too worried about his times and being inferior. That entire field was crappy. :mad:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 08:24 AM
I'm disgusted. Had him marked to bet, and was too stupid to follow through.

Got too worried about his times and being inferior. That entire field was crappy. :mad:

Arabians are never a fair bet, just like betting fillies.:pound:

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 08:27 AM
Arabians are never a fair bet, just like betting fillies.:pound:

My real honest reason for not betting?

In my head, I couldn't come close to saying the horses name. Nafees was a lot easier. :pound:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 08:29 AM
-$18

Okay both myself and Liverpool better get off our asses.

R3

$1 P3

:1:, :5:, :10: / :4:, :5: / :10:, :11:, :13: = $18.00

GLA

jocko699
03-31-2018, 08:30 AM
My real honest reason for not betting?

In my head, I couldn't come close to saying the horses name. Nafees was a lot easier. :pound:

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are! Also really sad:puke:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 08:34 AM
That jockey that won the second looked like a big "mini me!":pound:

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 08:35 AM
Now that's funny, I don't care who you are! Also really sad:puke:

I'm pissed off enough now to actually make a smart bet.

I think...

jocko699
03-31-2018, 08:36 AM
Look at the action on :2: Run Time. I give him no shot which probably means he wins by 10.

Tee
03-31-2018, 08:48 AM
:10: Frontiersman & :11: Al Sahem

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 08:51 AM
R3 Dubai

:10: Frontiersman
:15: Torcedor

:10::12::15:/:5::10::12::15:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:01 AM
-$18

Okay both myself and Liverpool better get off our asses.

R3

$1 P3

:1:, :5:, :10: / :4:, :5: / :10:, :11:, :13: = $18.00

GLA

What a nice turn of foot the :5: has. The :10: ran his heart out also.

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 09:01 AM
What a horse that Vazirabad. What is that 3 Meydan Dubai races in a row for him and a track record to boot. Marvelous horse!! :headbanger:

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 09:02 AM
What a nice turn of foot the :5: has. The :10: ran his heart out also.

:9: was just too pesky for the :10: throughout. Ran his guts out, but the real racing was all that mattered.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 09:03 AM
What a horse that Vazirabad. What is that 3 Meydan Dubai races in a row for him and a track record to boot. Marvelous horse!! :headbanger:

Yep.

Looks like a punch-button type horse as well. Very impressive.

kevb
03-31-2018, 09:07 AM
Vazirabad. Nice horse, nice ride, nice win.

Frontiersman kinda got messed up by Mosse. He ran a gutsy race, too.

Tom
03-31-2018, 09:11 AM
ok, Derby Time.

:3::5::7:

Got go against the favorite, Mendelssohn, but I think he might explode on dirt. A lot of poly runners really move ahead first time on dirt over the years.

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:11 AM
R4

ReRide is way overbet IMO. I know some are high on him but.......................2-1?

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:12 AM
What a nice turn of foot the :5: has. The :10: ran his heart out also.

Things are changing. Liverpool has scored 2 second half goals to lead 2-1:headbanger:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:14 AM
ok, Derby Time.

:3::5::7:

Little late to the party Tom. I hope you at least brought the pretzels.

depalma113
03-31-2018, 09:18 AM
Inside speed bias and the bettors ignore the :1:. Yummy!

Hammer the filly to win with a backwheel for second.

Tom
03-31-2018, 09:19 AM
Little late to the party Tom. I hope you at least brought the pretzels.

Had trouble getting the coffee IV in this morning.

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:21 AM
R4

$1 P3

:2:, :4:, :5: / :10:, :11:, :13: / :2: = $9

GL

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:25 AM
Had trouble getting the coffee IV in this morning.

I've had a few cups and probably won't sleep until Tuesday:pound:

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 09:28 AM
Reride after races at Delta and Sunland, and then getting shipped across the pond is getting bet down to 7/2?

Did they check the lip number on the horse?

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:29 AM
Reride after races at Delta and Sunland, and then getting shipped across the pond is getting bet down to 7/2?

Did they check the lip number on the horse?

Brilliant:headbanger::headbanger::headbanger:

Racetrack Playa
03-31-2018, 09:31 AM
DUB 4
:8: Taiki Ferveur
:4::2::7:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:32 AM
Ummmmmmmmmm ok!

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 09:33 AM
Mendelssohn just threw a huge wrench into the Derby equation.

THAT is a legit racehorse.

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 09:33 AM
Mendelssohn:

WOW!! On cruise control and totally taking over the race. Another Track Record.... Holy Toledo Batman!! :)

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:34 AM
Mendelssohn just threw a huge wrench into the Derby equation.

THAT is a legit racehorse.

Been thinking that all along but that was unbelievable

Tom
03-31-2018, 09:35 AM
Call me Mr. Understatement! Explode?
He was moving like a tremendous machine!:eek:

At the 8th pole, the trainer was confirming his hotel reservations in Kentucky.

kevb
03-31-2018, 09:35 AM
Did he do enough to warrant a trip to Churchill?
;):D

Tom
03-31-2018, 09:36 AM
TVG - turn off your mics!:D

jocko699
03-31-2018, 09:45 AM
Inside speed bias and the bettors ignore the :1:. Yummy!

Hammer the filly to win with a backwheel for second.

Nice call although beaten by daylights. I hope you cashed nicely:headbanger:

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 09:46 AM
He is a Scat Daddy too, isn't he?! Once again, WOW!! What a performance. I thought to myself "can he keep going"? Did he Ever!!

Tom
03-31-2018, 09:49 AM
Race 5

:3::13::10:

depalma113
03-31-2018, 09:49 AM
He is a Scat Daddy too, isn't he?! Once again, WOW!! What a performance. I thought to myself "can he keep going"? Did he Ever!!

That was what, the fifth track record set this meet. All by front runners on the rail. He's not bringing this track to Kentucky. Nice horse, but this track definitely added that performance.

depalma113
03-31-2018, 09:51 AM
Nice call although beaten by daylights. I hope you cashed nicely:headbanger:

Cashed a couple exactas and one trifecta.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 09:53 AM
That was what, the fifth track record set this meet. All by front runners on the rail. He's not bringing this track to Kentucky. Nice horse, but this track definitely added that performance.

Not to be technical, but aren't 99% of frontrunners on the rail? :)

I mean, if you get to the front, do you run in the middle of the track or go the shortest route?

Racetrack Playa
03-31-2018, 09:54 AM
5th Al Quoz Sprint
:12: Music Magnate
:9::3::8:

kevb
03-31-2018, 09:56 AM
Nice horse, but this track definitely added that performance.

No doubt the track is souped, and maybe it will turn out that he beat nothing, but you can't do any more than what he just did.

He'll be worth a lot of Derby talk.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 10:00 AM
R5 Dubai

:3: Librisa Breeze
:9: Conquest Tsunami

:3::9:/:3::9::11::13:

Rico8812
03-31-2018, 10:02 AM
Race 5:
:5: Stormy Liberal
:2: Washington DC

Hunch bet

:kiss:

Afleet
03-31-2018, 10:04 AM
Call me Mr. Understatement! Explode?
He was moving like a tremendous machine!:eek:

At the 8th pole, the trainer was confirming his hotel reservations in Kentucky.

that had me laughing out loud!

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 10:05 AM
Conquest Tsunami at 5/1.... All over that...

Tee
03-31-2018, 10:05 AM
:10: Jungle Cat

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 10:08 AM
:10: Jungle Cat

Love it. :ThmbUp:

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 10:09 AM
:10: Jungle Cat

Nice Pic Tee....

jocko699
03-31-2018, 10:12 AM
-$18

Okay both myself and Liverpool better get off our asses.

R3

$1 P3

:1:, :5:, :10: / :4:, :5: / :10:, :11:, :13: = $18.00

GLA

Win $46.50

Afleet
03-31-2018, 10:14 AM
Nice call on the :10: guys.

Race 7 like:4:

One turn 1 1/8 race got to love it!

Tom
03-31-2018, 10:14 AM
I wish this track ran every weekend!
I love the comments you get with TF - tells you a lot about the horses.

I like the truck inside the rail with the camera.
You couldn't do that at Aqueduct - the truck would be stalling in the first quarter too many times every day!

Racetrack Playa
03-31-2018, 10:15 AM
TEE:ThmbUp::10:


6th Golden Shaheen
:3: Reynaldothewizard
:5::6::2:

7th Dubai Turf
:8: Real Steel
:9::2::5:

8th Sheema Classic
:5: Poet's Word
:3::1::8:

9th DWC
:6: Forever Unbridled
:7::2::10:

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 10:16 AM
R6 Dubai Golden Shaheen

:9: Jordan Sport

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 10:17 AM
I wish this track ran every weekend!
I love the comments you get with TF - tells you a lot about the horses.

I like the truck inside the rail with the camera.
You couldn't do that at Aqueduct - the truck would be stalling in the first quarter too many times every day!

Tom:

You are ridiculous and I mean that most sincerely.... :lol:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 10:18 AM
Race 6

$1 P4

:2: /:2:, :4: / :3:, :6: / :7:, :9:

GL

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 10:19 AM
Can't wait to watch Roy H in here. Really seems to be coming into his own of late.

Tee
03-31-2018, 10:21 AM
Would like to have seen a bigger price, but a win is a win - thanks guys!!

On to the Golden Shaheen.

jocko699
03-31-2018, 10:22 AM
Win $46.50

Change to $36.00. Forgot the takeout:rant::rant::rant:

depalma113
03-31-2018, 10:23 AM
Not to be technical, but aren't 99% of frontrunners on the rail? :)

I mean, if you get to the front, do you run in the middle of the track or go the shortest route?

Not always. The two path, even the three path works.

This is Keeneland Gold Rail circa early 2000's kind of stuff.

Rico8812
03-31-2018, 10:26 AM
Where can I find free PPs for these races?

jocko699
03-31-2018, 10:27 AM
Where can I find free PPs for these races?

Brisnet

Afleet
03-31-2018, 10:31 AM
Where can I find free PPs for these races?

http://www.emiratesracing.com/racing-information/race-entries#tab-11261

hit view form guide tab

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 10:33 AM
Still can't believe you can't bet at the track. Crazy.

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 10:34 AM
Lemon Drop:

Is that true? You aren't allowed to bet trackside at Meydan?!

jocko699
03-31-2018, 10:36 AM
Still can't believe you can't bet at the track. Crazy.

There are a lot of things you cannot do in Dubai. I have been there about 40 times and loved it. Just got to get use to their laws.

kevb
03-31-2018, 10:37 AM
FWIW, :5: Matera Sky is a whisper horse with Japanese handicappers.

Tee
03-31-2018, 10:37 AM
:9: Jordan Sport - see if he can get a placing.

Tom
03-31-2018, 10:38 AM
How many will the :1:/:2: be out in front here?

Just about THAT much!:lol:

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 10:40 AM
Is XY Jet legit?

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 10:41 AM
Lemon Drop:

Is that true? You aren't allowed to bet trackside at Meydan?!

True story.

Lemon Drop Husker
03-31-2018, 10:42 AM
Nice.

Gotta love Biscuits and Gravy in the morning. :jump:

Tom
03-31-2018, 10:42 AM
Oh my Biscuits!
He was flying!
What a horse race!!!

jocko699
03-31-2018, 10:42 AM
Is XY Jet legit?

Well we know Mind Your Biscuits is in Dubai

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 10:43 AM
WOW LDH:

Biscuits and Gravy... S.O.S... What a Run.... Another Track Record. Goodness....

burnsy
03-31-2018, 10:49 AM
Rolling, rolling, rolling........what a move the Biscuits made!

Tom
03-31-2018, 10:57 AM
Dubai Turf

:5::1:

:12::15:

Tom
03-31-2018, 11:02 AM
Great piece on TVG about Arrogate last year!
Still can't believe that one.:headbanger:

GMB@BP
03-31-2018, 11:06 AM
Going to be pretty tough to judge Mendelssohn given the field, which was led by the horse who won the Mine That Bird stakes and the track, which despite a race finally falling apart is ridiculously speed biased.

Can Castallano get West Cost to the rail from the outside? If he cant the race might get interesting if he is hung wide.

kevb
03-31-2018, 11:20 AM
Race 7:

I'll take some Silvestre de Sousa WPS.
Championship may be too cheap, but he is 3-3-0 in 8 starts on Meydan turf.

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 11:21 AM
Nice.

Gotta love Biscuits and Gravy in the morning. :jump:

There is an awesome breakfast buffet up here in NH on Sunday's. Obscure reference. Biscuits just made up my mind for me tomorrow. Need some nice S.O.S in the a.m... :)

jocko699
03-31-2018, 11:30 AM
Race 7

$25WS :2: Neorealism

GL

Tom
03-31-2018, 11:30 AM
TVG voice keeps cutting out - same as last year.
Anyone else having this?

Extremely annoying.
Should have left one guy home and bought some new mics. :D

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 11:31 AM
I'm with you on this one Jocko.... Good Luck... :cool:

Tee
03-31-2018, 11:34 AM
:7: :11:

Tom
03-31-2018, 11:35 AM
Only 2 tracks in the whole world running right now, and they overlap the post times! :pound::pound::pound:

Tom
03-31-2018, 12:03 PM
Sheema Classic - Cloth of Stars

World Cup - West Coast, Gunivera

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 12:04 PM
Like Cloth of Stars also Tom... Hope he can get it done in here...

jocko699
03-31-2018, 12:07 PM
Okay last bet for me until R11 at GP

I am taking a stand against the 6 in here. Really wet in the ring.

$3 DD

:1:, :3:, :5: / :1:, :7:

Had fun, have some good plays tonight at Woodbine.

Aloha :headbanger:

jocko699
03-31-2018, 12:09 PM
Okay last bet for me until R11 at GP

I am taking a stand against the 6 in here. Really wet in the ring.

$3 DD

:1:, :3:, :5: / :1:, :7:

Had fun, have some good plays tonight at Woodbine.

Aloha :headbanger:

Added $3 :7: / :1:, :7:

Tee
03-31-2018, 12:10 PM
:2: Idaho & :5: Poet's Word

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 12:17 PM
Tom:

Cloth of Stars bottled up the whole race. Didn't appear to ever get comfortable. Credit to the Winner where credit is deserved however...

kevb
03-31-2018, 12:40 PM
0 min to R3 at Gulfstream
9 min to R9 at Dubai
Which will go off next?

PaceAdvantage
03-31-2018, 12:48 PM
I overslept...lol

Good thing...I can't pick my nose at the moment.

West Coast - go baby go...:pound:

PaceAdvantage
03-31-2018, 12:53 PM
I overslept...lol

Good thing...I can't pick my nose at the moment.

West Coast - go baby go...:pound:See...told you.

I think Thunder Snow was one of my picks in the Derby last year...does that count?

Vinnie
03-31-2018, 12:54 PM
Thunder Snow??? I even heard Steve Byk sort of scoff about him. WOW!! He ran a great race. Nobody was going to get to him today. :eek:

GMB@BP
03-31-2018, 12:54 PM
Not sure why Castallano was so willing to concede the lead to an outside horse.

cj
03-31-2018, 12:59 PM
Not sure why Castallano was so willing to concede the lead to an outside horse.

Cost him the race.

GMB@BP
03-31-2018, 01:01 PM
Cost him the race.

between kickback and the gold rail, hard to take these races at face value for any future handicapping.

horses4courses
03-31-2018, 01:03 PM
It will be interesting to see how Mendelssohn's win stacks up figures-wise against Thunder Snow.
Both went wire to wire.

Mendelssohn has to be the classiest shipper into KY Derby ever.
Still, you have to think there be at least one, or two, too good for him.
Post positions and luck in running will be big factors.

GMB@BP
03-31-2018, 01:09 PM
It will be interesting to see how Mendelssohn's win stacks up figures-wise against Thunder Snow.
Both went wire to wire.

Mendelssohn has to be the classiest shipper into KY Derby ever.
Still, you have to think there be at least one, or two, too good for him.
Post positions and luck in running will be big factors.

The pace for the Derby is going to be serious, this year the best horse are front speedy types.

He does have the pedigree to be the sort of dirt horse who could win, and he adds to the fun so I am happy it worked out like that.

burnsy
03-31-2018, 01:10 PM
I overslept...lol

Good thing...I can't pick my nose at the moment.

West Coast - go baby go...:pound:

Well, I had to use him in the exacta and hope he got second. Of course, I used North America instead of Thunder Snow.......knew that was done at the start! After a blow out win at the distance, he misses the break. Winner ran a huge race winning by a pole.

We own the dirt sprint as we should. Made some noise in the turf sprint but came up short. As for the World Cup, West Coast kind of runs one pace. Seems like he can't pass horses, he got jobbed today.

cj
03-31-2018, 01:58 PM
Trakus has no data for 5 of the 9 races today, lol. You couldn't make it up if you tried. I miss cratos. :)

depalma113
03-31-2018, 02:40 PM
Just got home and watched the World Cup. The announcers talking like these horses are good. LMAO!

These dirt races were nothing but quarter horse races to see who could get out of the gate the quickest and get to the rail.

Tom
03-31-2018, 03:16 PM
Trakus has no data for 5 of the 9 races today, lol. You couldn't make it up if you tried. I miss cratos. :)

He's working at Trakus this year~! :pound:

5 of 9????
On arguably the biggest day of racing in the world, they miss over the times? Wow.

Crapus is more like it.

Afleet
03-31-2018, 08:47 PM
See...told you.

I think Thunder Snow was one of my picks in the Derby last year...does that count?

Whoever would have thought he was the best of last years crop

Spalding No!
03-31-2018, 11:22 PM
It will be interesting to see how Mendelssohn's win stacks up figures-wise against Thunder Snow.
Both went wire to wire.

Mendelssohn has to be the classiest shipper into KY Derby ever.
Still, you have to think there be at least one, or two, too good for him.
Post positions and luck in running will be big factors.
Mendelssohn's grandsire Johannesburg and of course Arazi were much more accomplished going into the Kentucky Derby.

But to be fair, he'll likely be in better form than those 2 heading into the race.

cj
04-01-2018, 12:29 AM
Whoever would have thought he was the best of last years crop

West Coast is better than him IMO. Castellano was asleep at the wheel on an extremely speed/rail favoring track. How do you let a horse cross in front of you going that slow and give him the golden rail?

Afleet
04-01-2018, 10:12 AM
West Coast is better than him IMO. Castellano was asleep at the wheel on an extremely speed/rail favoring track. How do you let a horse cross in front of you going that slow and give him the golden rail?

that track was seriously biased, but Thunder Snow is group winner on turf also, thats impressive. No way Thunder Snow beats West Coast at Churchill. No way West Coast beats Thunder Snow on turf.

Tom
04-01-2018, 11:14 AM
I'm wondering why Baffert ever bothered using an east coast rider in the first place.

He has so much better at home.

You can't heard 'em if you can't catch 'em.

Tom
04-01-2018, 11:45 AM
Chart
http://www.dubairacingclub.com/race/racing-info/trakus-chart